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brightwingedbat · 26 days
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LONGAR AND RYTLONG
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"This is what peak Blood Legion looks like. Heavy focus on peak."
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Y'all I've always thought it was hilarious what Anet did to warbands.
So. you have Rytlock, who in Edge of Destiny said he had "about a dozen" brothers and sisters each. so including himself, that's 25 in a warband. The wiki says a warband is 6-25 members, so Rytlock was on the high end, and average would probably be 12-18 members.
and then every warband in the game proceeds to have BARELY 6.
you have 5 options to choose from for a sparring partner. Rox's old warband had 6 members (or maybe 7). We've still never met more than one of Rytlock's 'bandmates. Almorra gets one 'bandmate mentioned by name.
most charr in the entire game, including top-ranking tribunes and imperators, are not with their warbands, do not talk about their warbands, do not go places with their warbands. Tribune Bhuer Goreblade shows up with a small handful of 'bandmates in the charr level 10 story.
You do not see groups of 12-18 charr warbands roaming around Ascalon with fascinating life stories and 'bandmate dynamics and mourning the latest one(s) who died, with mementos, with stories about how 'my sparring partner saved my life' and 'this member of the warband whom I know least of all my bandmates would die for me and they proved it last week' and 'Im unhappy with bandmate X but I would kill for them' or 'bandmates Y and Z obviously love each other. wanna join the betting pool?' and the legionnaire who confides in you about their tough decisions of who they're picking to be their second/replacement. All within the same warband.
Not even one warband like this. Much less the multiple that charr culture deserves.
Even in IBS, the, at least half-way, charr-centric story, our main focus warband is Ryland's Steel warband. Who has, predictably, 6 members. And like 10 fresh-faced, unnamed recruits who have 0 history or dynamic with the Main Cast. even the 6 named members, who have vibes and character and a bit of a dynamic, are stupid shallow. (and tbf they didn't have time to explore it much, but really?)
We do not see Bangar's 'bandmates. We do not see Rytlock's 'bandmates. We do not hear anything about Almorra's old 'bandmates. We do not see Ember Doomforge's 'bandmates. We do not see Smodur's 'bandmates. We do not see Malice's 'bandmates. We do not see Efram's 'bandmates.
We see a lot of 'cubs this' (with Rytlock and with Efram), I heard a lot of speculation about 'cubs that' in fandom spaces, we see a lot of 'ohoho relationship/mating drama' (from Rytlock/Crecia and also Almorra/Bangar). We do NOT see ANYTHING about warbands, supposedly the building-blocks of charr society.
Even the charr player's old warband is mostly disbanded/defected to Dominion.
I have yet to see any real warband dynamics in canon.
Even in the books! Rytlock's 24 'bandmates are fair game because they're offscreen. And Anet has consistently refused to show any of them. Even Rytlock's dynamic with Crecia is pretty much just "we're old exes" and never "we grew up together. we fought together. our bonds are deeper than those of biology, than the fact we have a cub. I stabbed you once and you knew I didn't mean it because we are 'bandmates." Sure, Crecia mentions once "ohoho we used to see the ice elementals here as cubs."
But in the books! Sea of Sorrows for instance! iirc the majority of Sykax's warband is unnamed! Ember Doomforge, again, no mentions of warband! Rytlock nor Malice nor Almorra talk about inter-warband relations!
we never see any warbands larger than 6 members.
And this is all because, OBVIOUSLY, who wants to come up with 12-18 whole characters when it's just the one who's relevant to the story? Coming up with 6 is hard enough it only happens in special occasions. which doesn't include the legit actual player character.
(the player character, whose warband is decimated to TWO flaming members (including yourself!!) in the tutorial, and! yay! fun lorebuilding! you get to rebuild the warband. this adds a flaming total of TWO members. now you're at flaming four. FLAMING FANTASTIC. the player-flaming-character gets FOUR 'bandmates. this is atrocious!! and tbf if you compile all the options across all the branches you might end up in the (low end, probably) of 12-18. which is fair!)
but like. I do sympathize. I really do. characters are hard. names especially! which would be the bare minimum yknow. have an 18-member warband with zero dialogue but! they do have names! that wander around Ascalon. not even an event chain just average-sized warband representation PLEASE.
like. I did it myself. I invented a warband and I BARELY got them to 6 members. I had name, gender, profession for each of them. they were minor characters so they didn't even get the development that Ryland's Steel got. names, professions and the vibes from that. I felt so bad for only giving them 6 bc I was reinforcing the stereotype!!
but, so, uhhhh
I have been handed an OC. from a friend. who has given me full creative license to write abt them in my story.
I gave him 23 'bandmates. They all have names and genders. They're split up into who is whose sparring partner and who bunks with whom. That is all.
I also get VibesTM from each member's name. I'm slowly building relationship maps. (mostly just. from character A's PoV, ranking who they are closest with. Then doing it from Character B's PoV. it's WILDLY fascinating.) I have three charr 'bandmates who have their own little niche, they three are besties, they're each other's sparring partners and bunkmates and everybody (main relevant characters at least) knows them as 'those three'. and I know their names. none of the characters I'm writing about know them very well (relative to the rest of the warband ofc. ofc each one would DIE for them and probably knows their struggles and combat strengths and weak points and so on. but I haven't invented any of those yet) and that's all. I don't have a single bit of info about them except that and the vibes of each name. but hey!!!! WARBAND DYNAMICS MY BELOVED!?!!
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dion-iron · 1 year
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Oh look who it is
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wheatskers · 1 year
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I was in a rare mood to draw actual gw2 characters so here’s Bangar the worst boy
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guildtree · 2 months
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Now that the zine is out, I'm officially allowed to post the full version of my contribution! My norn Commander Loretta gets to ruminate on her past and her relationship with her revenant Legend Kalla Scorchrazor, all while dealing with an enemy that inspires rage in both of them, even across the centuries.
Fun fact: the mix of blue and red in this was really fun for me to balance, and I aimed for a gradual transition from entirely blue to almost entirely red over the four pages to show Jormag's influence waning and Kalla's growing.
Totally check out the full zine here at @gw2-zine! So many amazing creators in there!
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thiefseeker · 2 years
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ode to icebrood saga kitties
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jollycryptid · 1 year
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Redaar declaring war on his own imperator.
don't mind me taking inspiration from the Horus Heresy trailer quote
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telltalecoyote · 2 months
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Nobody was quite sure why Cassius staunchly defended Bangar during IBS, even as his allies were faced with such hardship, the sudden change of heart from him was shocking-- especially as he seemed to hate every second of it
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charrior-of-ash · 6 months
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I love making up AUs in my head, so here, have another one - Gangar Steelbreaker, Imperator Ruinbringer's son, one of the leading members of Ryland Steelcatcher's glorious warband. He becomes a Tribune in this AU, where the Dominion easily crushes the United Legions and manages to gain control over all Ascalon, threatening to take over Tyria. (His in-game profession is Guardian and I play him on my NA side account; there he is, scolding the Minister of Morale)
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commanderyes · 11 months
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The Commander And Holding On
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cindermetalheadgw2 · 2 years
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Jormag being about persuasion, manipulation, and preservation, what if instead of mindlessness and brutality primordus's traits opposing jormag were honesty, directness, and change. What if instead of Ryland as champion of jormag, it was Bangar, a politician who sought control, made use of propaganda and assassination, and ultimately wanted to maintain the status quo of the legions. And instead of Braham, Ryland was champion of Primordus. Ryland who wielded a flamesaw, couldn't hear the whispers of jormag, and whose philosophy is "playing defense just preserves the status quo. You don't lose anything; you also don't gain anything." This would not only work really well thematically, but also be a whole whole lot less racist in how braham is treated
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brightwingedbat · 1 year
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GW2 IBS stuff
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OKAY SO Bangar has been imperator longer than CRECIA has been alive. Since Ryland is a thing, Rytlock and Crecia have got to be at least in their very late 30s or early 40s. And it's incredibly unlikely that Bangar became imperator as soon as he was out of fahrar, a benefit of the doubt and I'd say him becoming imperator at 25 at least. Bangar how fucking old are you, are you in your late sixties??? Early seventies??? MORE???
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This was originally for a charrtober a few years back. I still want to do a comic on octavos
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harukaemberfall · 1 year
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Hey everyone! I've begun pre-production on a Guild Wars 2 fan game called Kick the Bangar! You'll play as Aurene, and use variety of cruel implements to crush, punt, beat, and otherwise make life miserable for the most bappable Charr in Tyria!
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herald-of-aurene · 11 months
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So, earlier today I made a blood legion charr named Darrius, and I adore him. While playing him, my mind provided me this image and I just had to recreate it
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thepinkywarband · 2 years
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Charrtober Day 4: Allied Bangar Ruinbringer surveying the Far Shiverpeaks with known menace, Sankirn Torchbearer.
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