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pocketaltar · 3 years

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would LOVE to hear your thoughts on supernatural + hinduism 👀👀

i got 2?? whole asks asking me to talk about this?? i’ve been training my whole life for this exact moment

ok so: im hindu, my whole family is hindu, i’ve been studying and learning about hinduism for my whole life. if you want me to elaborate on any of the myths, gods, monsters, etc. that i mentioned pls pls pls let me know, i love talking about this stuff and i never get the chance.

also this got suuuuuper long so:

spn only brings up three things that have to do with hinduism (i think. pls tell me if there’s more, i stopped watching at s11). both kali ma and lord ganesha are in s5 e19 hammer of the gods, and the brothers hunt a vetala in s7 e11 adventures in babysitting.

first, kali ma or kalika devi. this is, hands down, their biggest fuck up. kali ma (i call her kali ma, kali devi, or kalika devi as a sign of respect, but the episode just refers to her as kali) has the largest part and most lines out of any of the gods in 5x19.

and their portrayal of her uh. kinda sucks. for refernce, kalika devi was created in order to a kill a demon who’s power was that anytime a drop of his blood touched the ground, a clone of himself would appear. basically - impossible to kill. you wanna know how she killed him? kalika devi drank his blood and ate his body so that he couldn’t clone himself anymore.

she’s also known as the protector, the mother, and the destroyer. kali ma is who the gods turn to when something goes wrong for them. it’s gross and disrespectful that a washed up former angel can kill her without batting an eye, because in reality, she is far more powerful and far more terrifying than lucifer.

side note: i really liked the way she looked in the show! the actress was great and i appreciate them getting a darker desi actress, because kali ma canonically has dark skin. the jewelry was cool, although in myth kali ma is depicated as an emaciated woman wearing animal furs and skulls, with bloodshot eyes and her tongue hanging out. basically, i think they could’ve made her scarier, but it’s supernatural and all women must be fuckable.

lord ganesh or ganesha (some people say ganesh, i grew up wth ganesha) is the other hindu god in 5x11. there’s not much i can say because he’s in the episode for like. 5 seconds but the parts he is in are uh. not great. he’s introduced through a clip of dean walking past an open door and seeing an elephant, then doing a double take and seeing ganesha, who’s portrayed as a large black man.

the idea of ganesha just being an elephant is really, really weird. he was brought to life by the goddess parvati, and had his head cut off and replaced with an elephant’s head. so there’s no reason he’d ever be an elephant?? he’s not an animal?? did they google him?? also, lord ganesha is 1000% vegetarian, to the point where a large part of the holiday dedicated to him is gathering plants for him to eat. it’s so gross to even insinuate that he might eat meat, especially human.

the same issue with kali ma applies here too. lord ganesha is the god of removing obstacles and making goals easier. he’s who you pray to before any ceremony or hardship. the idea that lucifer could take him out like that is disgusting and colonialist.

also, a quick note on his appearance: lord ganesha is portrayed by keith dallas, who’s a black american. i’m glad they got his size right, as ganesha is canonically fat. and black hindus do exist! especially in the caribbean and parts of africa, when indians were brought over to those places by the british. if this was a show that had a more diverse team, paid more attention to details, or cared more about accuracy, i’d assume that this was a deliberate choice to highlight the diversity of hindus. but i’m certain it was the crew going “all people of color are the same, they won’t even notice.” which is fucked.

finally, the vetalas. the vetala is a hindu ghost that is created when a body does not receive a proper funeral (because bodies in hinduism are supposed to be cremated, if the body is not properly burnt, a vetala can form). they’re confined to certain areas, usually forests, and they really aren’t harmful unless you’re intruding on or fucking with them. there are stories of kings trying to remove them but like. they are literally nothing like the spn version. what the fuck was that. just call it something else.

#spn #supernatural #hinduism #thank u so much!!!#also thank u 2 the anon who asked me to talk about this #pls tell me if u want me to talk about this more

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sapphic-luthor · 4 years

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Top 5 times Lena should’ve told Kara she’s in love with her 😌

5. “supergirl may have saved me, but kara danvers, you are my hero.” listen. i don’t think lena quite knew she was in love yet, but holy shit. there was clearly something going on. CLEARLY.

4. the first time kara brought big belly burger for lunch. ok. kara not only showed up to ensure that lena ate lunch that day, but she remembered lena’s guilty pleasure food and just?? brought it?? unannounced?? that can be construed as platonic but it also is just a really really obvious declaration of i care about you that i think probably left lena breathless and very soft

3. “you haven’t been around. supergirl’s been there for me. the person who judges me on the very premise of my last name-- but my best friend hasn’t.” listen................. lena was in a lot of pain here. this was important. this was the moment she needed kara, and didn’t have her. this was really really big, and if kara hadn’t left, if lena had really explored what it was that she needed in that moment and realized that it was, at its core, kara.... this would have been the moment of confession.

2. 5x19, that moment after ‘it’s just like kasnia’ when she looked at her. like holy fuck, lena, we get it, you’d die a million deaths for this woman. fucking tell her

1. “and that is one of the things i love about you.” this isn’t necessarily my favorite supercorp moment of all time but holy mother of FUCKING god, this should have been the moment lena told her. like jesus christ are you fucking kiddin gme

#i'm drunk so i can't provide better analysis right now but .#fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lena LOVES HER lena has LOVED HER FOR SO LONG #SINCE MAYBE THE MOMENT THEY MET.#SHE LOVES HER.#analysis #supercorp #baby-likewestoodachance #answered #shut up lia

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deliciouslyzealouswolf · 7 years

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Supernatural 5x19

Lmao! The Supernatural, as much as I really really like the show, they can’t even afford to cast Indians to play Hindu Gods. What the fuck?

ALso, so many of the stuff about the religions in there is screwed up. Odin’s NOT like that, he was (is?) powerful King... God?

Ganesh doesn’t turn into a fucking elephant, he just kinda has a head of one. Also, as far as I know, Hindu Gods don’t really eat humans, or have human sacrificial rituals.

I don’t know much about the turtle globe thing, but...

Also, Mercury...really? Are you shitting me right now? He’s a Roman God. God of messengers, thieves and trickery. What-I don’t I don’t get that shit. I’d expect Jupiter. Pluto or Neptune to be there, not Mercury. I’m not entirely certain, but I don’t think Greek Gods ate humans, sure they used them as sacrifice, but they didn’t eat them- not the Gods.

#supernatural

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coretemparts · 7 years

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themanicgalaxy · 3 years

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SPN 5X19 Hammer of the Gods

dear LORD I ate too much

ok we're back on track whee

oho creepy plant

this poor guys is DEAD

oh it's an angel?

ooo a nice motel?

boy they look so wrecked haha

ah the PIE

there's something off here, right?

RIGHT?

Sam's not sleeping either oof

"night off" uh are YOU SURE aBOUT THAT

"I'm young at heart" HAHA

well that was quite the THUNK

"the elysian fields" wait

right so they're greek

basically a nice garden, it's like the afterlife

this feels like that one hotel in percy jackson

the same nick as Dean hm

heh the disappearing elephant

ah of course she's evil

~you can check out anytime you like BUT YOU CAN NEVER LEAVE~~

"please be tomato soup" *sees eyeballs*

the unison grimace was fun

ah yes the ages old "somebody behind me"

oh lovely it's gods

there's NO Way this goes poorly

"gods?" AHAH

oh yeah you're screwed

ah they don't want the apocalypse either, because they get fucked over too

THEY ARGUE OVER WHO'S APOCALYPSE IS RIGHT AHAHAHA

that was a good effort guys

you try reasoning with angels just try it

GABRIEL!!!

HE SHUTS THEM UP SO HE CAN DO THE TALKING I LOVE HIM

Baldur..OH THE GUY HE KILLED

THEY'RE SO SHOOKEN UP OH MY GOD AHAHA

AHAHAAH

Gabriel is such a little shit

him and Dean are fun

"I don't care" ha sure

OH WAIT T H A T ' S KALI?? THAT'S THE KALI FROM THE FANFICS??

KALI THE D E S T R O Y E R ?

yeah ok no she's SO hot

ah he's trying to save her

ooo LEVERAGE

boy they're so chill with him

aw Gabe gets his romance

ah she got him Damn

the GHOSTFACERS? WHAT THE F UC CK?

is this..Gabriel processing? what the fuck?

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS W H A T

WAS IT AN ACTUAL CW AD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EPISODE?

Gabriel...oh god ur so screwed

all of you are so screwed

"you're the youngest religion, what do you mean you're tearing the world apart"

NO GABRIEL NO

SAM IS PANICKING TOO

yeah this is clearly supposed to be the end

ah summon into the vessel and then kill ok

hey at least he got them out

GABRIEL!! HE'S ALIVE

I am way too attached to this fucker

GABRIEL AND DEAN! SAME COPING MECHANISMS!

"they're your family" o p e

oh there's lucifer

boy he does NOT Look good

...of course he doesn't like the pagans

jesus christ Lucifer is actually iNCREDIBLY THREATENING

rights are taken not given huh

oh jesus Baldur's fucking dead

KALI! FIRE POWER!

GABRIEL

L U C Y

I love squad

you puritanical BASTARD

"I love you but BOY DO YOU SUCK"

..that'S DEAN'S LINE HOLY SHIT

the "they're flawed but a lot of them try to do better instead of covering it up" is SO COOL

"I'm loyal to people" YES GET EM GABRIEL

"don't make me do this" "no one makes us do anything"

no NO NO COME ON NOT AGAIN

NO THE WINGS

no THAT MEANS IT WORKED NO BUT HE COMES BACK?

THERE ARE FIVE MORE MINUTES LEFT?

oh it's Gabriel's recorded DVD version

w h y

he hid it

"if you're watching this I'm dead" and it doesn't even feel like that cliche

THE RINGS A H

he gives them the intel

THEIR FACES

pestilence and death huh

Death's the big boss so it's pestilence next

new flu virus huh

yeah this one isn't gonna be pretty huh

e w

his license plate is sick n tired

lovely

1. GABRIEL and Dean! Ok so I feel like they have similar responses to family, or something like that. Like Dean's a lot better at understanding the dealing with complicated relationships with family members, and both mask it with jokes and they both care about a lot of people but are bad at expressing it. Like ok, back to Dean's charisma. He's got like...no social skills, but he has faith in...people? the concept of family? and that wins people over. It got Gabriel to repeat the words and stand up to his family at least. (also yeah could be lazy writing but I feel like they're written to be similar on purpose?)

2. religions. Ok yeah, I feel like there's something to be said about the other religions, and about how judeo-christianity kinda tried to take everything over, and how there's a lot of stuff still there. Hell, you can make everything a Tulpa and say that they're no longer as believed in so that's why they're so weak. And they clung to the vestiges of their power, while the other guys managed to get ahold of power and Spread.

...huh that "take power" line really escalates huh.

3. I feel like siblings in there. Like that idea of "I love you but you SUCK." the sibling bickering, the "grow up." like...I don't know, that death scene was painful, and a lot of it feels(is) sibling rivalry. Like that's what pushed the angels to this, but since they refuse to accept that they can get better, they never change. I think that was Gabriel's point.

4. something about the horsemen. Like this is just a classic Chekov's gun thing, but also the way they've stylized every horseman is...like Very Supernatural, but it's interesting. Like it's very clear what they're doing and I can even see the good omens inspiration(red vehicle for War is the best example) but it's interesting to see how the vibe of the show impacts their visual style. Because they're there to be antagonists and not much else, so it's vibe we go for I think.

5. GABRIEL. I LOVE THIS CHARACTER! TRICKSTER ARCHETYPE THAT KEEPS RUNNING AWAY! HE HAS ALL THESE IDENTITIES! HE EVENTUALLY EMBRACES THE OTHERS BECAUSE THEY TRY AND CHANGE AND ADAPT! HE STANDS UP TO HIS BROTHER! TELLS HIM TO GROW UP! TELLS SAM AND DEAN INTEL AND GIVES THEM A CLEAR GOAL TO FOLLOW THE REST OF THE SEASON WHEN THEY HAD NO PURPOSE! GODDAMN I L O V E GABRIEL!

6. The way they weren't able to deal with the pagans at ALL, and how they panicked, and the cool as hell visuals with the name tags. God I want more pagan imagery, that shit was COOL, and it makes sense! all these different cultures in America, where are the pagans? and then of course they got taken over because apocalypse

also funny, this episode was funny

actually

7. you can tell this was the planned final season. Gabriel dying, the pagans being introduced to establish stakes, the just...sheer...done-ness of the characters. Everything's being wrapped up in it's own way. Also, it makes me sad we didn't get any before this. There's so much stuff there.

EDIT: OK I FIGURED OUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WITH THE PAGANS!

Other than like…the same reason for Dean and Sam, and then ig cas but that’s mostly daddy issues, we don’t have any non nebulous ideas as to why apocalypse bad. We see all the angels give their two cents, and all with varying degrees of belief in that cause(or just going absolutely batshit), and then here we had the pagans(and Gabriel) giving clear, tangible reasons as to why not, they had their own two cents to give, and they were their own form of compelling/washed up. Like…one of them! Maybe kali shows back up again! They were a new perspective, that clearly said no apocalypse, like Gabriel but slightly not! It would have been cool!! They had an interesting plot that ties in with the themes of abandonment, and there wasn’t enough in there! More Gabriel and the pagans would have been Epic!!

This is incoherent I'm sorry

#pawswatchesspn #5x19 hammer of the gods #the gist is there is so much cool shit here they could have done with pagans #and also with gabriel #and the realization that I think Gabriel is my favorite character #Gabriel and Bela #don't read into that

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mycatismyfriend · 5 months

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#motivated go-getters

#Angel #Angel the Series #AtS #dailyats #atsedit #Wesley Wyndam Pryce #Wesley Wyndam-Pryce #Spike #ats 5x19 #Slayerdaily #Buffysource #spikedaily #mine #my gifs

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sunnydaleherald · 5 years

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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, September 15

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