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#anyway this is where that gross radfem misandry leads you
ventbloglite · 4 months
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Saw an interesting post by @snaxle lately but didn't want to add my crap to it and spoil the post or w/e but it did get me thinking.
It's really sad that it's seen as 'controversial' to speak up about misandry especially when it leads to transphobia because people think you're saying 'women oppress men' and that's... not it at all? Anyone can say this stuff, including men themselves? Anyone can accidentally pick up TERF ideology?
'It's bigotry to hate on a whole group for something like their gender' is not pointing the finger at anyone else in particular and calling them an oppressor. It's stating a fact that we all should know is true, but inviting you to understand that this includes men. Yes, even completely nonqueer* men!
And as Snaxle points out, you are being invited to understand the radfem/TERF ideology you are spouting, supporting and encouraging when you make and share posts hating on a whole ass gender as if the thousands of people the word 'men' covers (including some people who are also women) are all exactly the same.
As if being born with a penis, or identifying with the gender of those who usually are, changes your entire personality and morality into a singular hivemind wherein you must adhere to violent, abusive, unhygienic, rude and emotionless behaviour expected of every man. These traits of course, being impossible to have if you're not a man. /sarc
It's easy to understand!
You start saying you hate all men and you justify it to yourself based on crime statistics or personal trauma. You convince yourself even if you don't say it/subconsciously that men basically aren't people. Not like women are people, anyway. It often includes ignoring intersectionality and that what you actually hate is Patriarchy as a system of control and oppression of anyone who doesn't fit the surprisingly narrow scope of 'acceptable' which also includes an awful lot of men.
You may make an exception for trans men/masc people, but only if we don't preform masculinity too well or you may include us to 'validate' our gender.
Excluding trans men/masc people often comes with reasoning that infantilises us or acts like our AFAB status makes us simply too pure to do wrong (not like Real I mean cishet men!).
Including trans men/masc people often leads to ignoring that we can be targets of unique antitransmasc hate and even misogyny in favour of the illogical hatred against our gender.
Both options are supported by TERFs to either enact hatred onto us or speak of us as though we're just confused little girls.
Sometimes this form of misandry also includes acting like being attracted to men is either wrong or 'unfortunate' including when men love other men.
Forever you skirt the boundaries of 'just' hating men 'of privilege' to hating anyone who has or was born with a penis regardless of current gender because a lot of the people who agree and support your generalized view on men and how awful we are inherently do not make a distinction between man and trans woman and will argue that it is in fact the biology that makes 'men' gross and violent.
Suddenly womanhood is on this incredibly high and unstable pedestal where 'safe' means acting a certain way and it's so incredibly easy to be pushed off. Not to mention how disgusting it is to turn your back of womanhood, right? /sarc
At the same time, having an abuser who isn't a man seems like it's impossible so you must be wrong if you think someone who isn't a man and doesn't have a penis is abusing you especially if you are a man yourself.
Thinking men are ok is suddenly a controversial stance to have especially if you're a woman and any man who is being 'allowed' to be viewed as safe does so by strict adherence to an unfair set of ever changing rules oftentimes which includes having to show hatred for the self and other men.
Nobody should be made to feel like an unlovable monster because of their gender and TERFs shouldn't be getting incidental ideology support even a little, even just at the fringes, because you can't think critically.
*I use nonqueer here because some queer men are also cishet e.g. cis arohet/hetace
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oh shit it’s star wars day!
what a perfect opportunity to scream into the void that ADMIRAL SPACE KAREN chewing out Poe (as played by Óscar Isaac Hernández Estrada, a very Latin name in case y’all have forgotten) for being good and heroic at his job IS NOT AS WOKE AS YOU THINK IT IS, you party line guzzling turnips. it’s WHITE FEMINIST YELLS AT BROWN MAN, but it’s okay because he’s a man!
white feminism is largely an excuse for white people who happen to be female to yell at and debase and abuse brown men in a way that is socially acceptable, and you are doing their foot soldier work each time you yell at me and anyone else for “misogyny” when we try to criticize this part of the franchise.
HAPPY FOURTH, Y’ALL
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