#anyway I've been thinking about the bit in robin 2021 where damian says he's never having kids. he's so real for that

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Stephanie Brown and Dick Grayson: I Am Going To Be A Good Parent To Pass On The Good Parts Of My Tumultuous Childhood/Give Someone Else What I Didn't Have Growing Up

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Damian Wayne and Cassandra Cain: You Could Not Pay Me To Be A Parent For Fear I Would Continue The Cycle Of Violence

#dc comics #stephanie brown #dick grayson #damian wayne #cassandra cain #ramblings of a lunatic #don't ask me about tim jason or duke idk what's going on there #Tim can't even make it to college unimpeded his ass is NOT entering fatherhood #you could do something really interesting with Jason as a father but it'd either have to go hard into the 'jason healing' route- #-or the complete opposite direction and go full on 'repeating the cycle of violence' fucked up #and either way it's gonna be divisive #i recently found out (bc i skipped batman and the outsiders) that duke's dad is some kind of immortal entity???? what in the fresh hell #I'm not saying it can't be cool I'm saying I'm. so goddman surprised it's never brought up by ANYONE #i know duke doesn't get his flowers in fandom but SERIOUSLY. WHAT? #ngl i can't say for sure that i don't like it bc i haven't seen the execution but. instinctually i prefer his og backstory #it just felt more grounded and linked to his setting? his whole thing is being the light and pushing batmans message further- #which is already hard for some writers to work w bc depending on interpretation that's the territory of like. 5 other guys in batfam #but duke does it in his own way with the whole working the dayshift angle. idk am i the only one hung up on the eldritch daddy thing? #bc i simply can't imagine the thought process behind that #anyway I've been thinking about the bit in robin 2021 where damian says he's never having kids. he's so real for that #he loves both his parents deeply and that series made that clear but MAN he is not passing on all this mental illness to anyone #and then i thought about how badly steph wanted to be a mom even as a teenager despite her own shitty parents #how she wanted to give someone else more than she had growing up (HOPE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THEME FOR STEPH LISTEN TO ME) #and she ultimately gave her kid up bc she knew she couldn't give that to them at the time #oouughhhh. then i just figured that dick and cass are roughly the same in their estimation of parenthood #cass had a horrifically abusive upbringing and insanely isolated life til recent- #-all of which was due to/contributed by the parental figures in her life minus maybe barbara #i think I'd love to watch cass act as a mentor (she was a bit of a peer mentor to Steph and got along well w maps in Batgirls) #but it's hard to picture her as maternal. big sister yes. mother no. #dick is soooo dad shaped it's unreal. just as much as he is brother shaped. especially after everything with damian