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The Knuckles show

The announcement of a live action Knuckles streaming miniseries was surprising, to say the least. I mean, what would such a show even be about in a version of the Sonic universe with no Angel Island and barely any characters from the games around? Is he gonna go treasure hunting with the gang from Montana or something? Would a streaming miniseries have the CGI budget to squeeze in any new game characters, even briefly? Rouge? Amy? At least one member of Team Chaotix? Anyone?

Now the show is finally out, and it turns out what they actually made was a comedy show about bumbling deputy sheriff Wade Whipple, the minor comic relief character played by Adam Pally who you might not even remember all that well from the first two movies, with Knuckles as his sidekick. While, yes, Knuckles does get a decent amount of screentime and opportunities to punch bad guys and do cool moves from the games, large stretches of this show focus on Wade's personal life, to the point that a couple times I almost forgot I was watching a Sonic-related show. If you're judging it purely by the metric of how well it adapts and engages with its source material, this surely must be one of the worst adaptations the Sonic franchise has ever seen.

So then, despite some huge complaints... why do I kinda like it?

(This will contain full spoilers for the Knuckles show.)

A brief summary of what the show is actually about because I know half of you aren't going to watch it

The show picks up not too long after the end of the second movie. Knuckles is now living in Montana with Sonic, Tails, and the Wachowskis out of a sense of debt to them, though he doesn't really see it as his home. He doesn't feel like he belongs on Earth, and his life currently lacks direction. After communing with the ghost of Pachacamac, though, Knuckles is instructed to keep his culture alive by teaching "the ways of the echidna warrior" to a new apprentice: deputy sheriff Wade Whipple, who's currently more concerned about winning a bowling tournament in Reno than anything else.

Things are complicated by the interference of two rogue GUN agents - Agent Willoughby, played by Ellie Taylor in a bad wig, and Agent Mason, played by Kid Cudi. (Yes, the artist behind the second movie's credits song is one of the bad guys in this.) They want to steal Knuckles' power and sell it to a former associate of Robotnik's played by Rory McCann (The Hound from Game of Thrones), who now works as a black market arms dealer. Yes, they're still doing the thing where Sonic and friends' quills radiate some kind of super-energy that the bad guys all want. No, I don't particularly love this element of the Paramount Sonic continuity. Anyway, they go after Knuckles and Wade, complicating their straightforward road trip to Reno. Antics ensue.

The Wade show

So here's the thing. While the first episode focuses largely on Knuckles, the entire rest of the show is very much the story of Wade, and by extension the other original human characters invented for this miniseries.

Episode 2 is about Wade having to rescue Knuckles from captivity after the GUN agents get him. Knuckles spends most of the episode in a cage.

Episode 3 is about introducing Wade's Jewish family, including his slightly overbearing mother and weird sister, so that Knuckles can learn about their family traditions and have Shabbat dinner with them (and then save them from bounty hunters that the GUN agents hired).

Episode 4 only features Knuckles at the very beginning and very end of the episode, probably for less than a minute total. Wade is captured by a bounty hunter he personally knows, and Knuckles decides to let that be a trial for Wade to overcome on his own.

The last two episodes feature the climactic showdowns with the GUN agents and their arms-dealing ally, who comes in with a mech for the obligatory final boss fight. You'd think this would be Knuckles' time to shine, but really, these episodes are mostly about the bowling tournament in Reno where Wade encounters his estranged father, wrapping up his own personal arc. While Knuckles does get some fights, a lot of the finale is spent on lengthy bowling scenes where Knuckles isn't in the room or even mentioned. It frequently feels more like a spiritual successor to '00s sports comedy movies like Dodgeball, Talladega Nights, or Blades of Glory than it does a part of the Sonic franchise, and the presence of ESPN 8: The Ocho commentary in the finale only drives those Dodgeball comparisons home. They get so immersed in the bowling stuff that it's genuinely hilarious when the show suddenly pivots and remembers "oh shit we still need to do the final boss fight"

Throughout all this, Wade is the protagonist. He's the character we spend more time with, he's the character who drives most of the major events, he's the character who gets more of an arc. The emotional core is Wade's journey. Knuckles is still present - sometimes, at least - but he's there as Wade's wingman, and also just as the excuse for there to be some fight scenes.

How much Sonic stuff is actually in this show?

Honestly? Not much.

Sonic and Tails are only in the first episode. Sonic gets some good scenes, but Tails gets a grand total of five lines. I counted. Unsurprisingly, Jim Carrey is absent as Robotnik, though he does get mentioned a fair bit. (For that matter, basically the entire established human cast beyond Wade is absent, even including Tom, though Maddie is there in episode one.)

GUN is involved in the story, which helps it feel slightly more connected to Sonic, but it kind of feels like it's GUN in name only. They don't use any recognizable GUN tech, and they don't call in the military. It's just two agents in suits. They might as well be the Men in Black.

The Master Emerald is mentioned as something Knuckles has to guard, but it's never seen. Angel Island is pictured as a drawing during the show's intro, appearing exactly how it does in Sonic 3, but it's never referenced at all beyond that.

I guess the climax taking place in and around a Reno casino is a reference to Sonic's many casino-themed levels. That's something. I'll give them that.

Oh, and if you're wondering if this is the point where we finally start to get actual music from the games: no, it's not. The soundtrack consists of a lot of '80s needle drops, many of which are generic Hollywood picks like "Holding Out for a Hero" for the billionth time, thought it at least has some slightly less obvious picks than the Mario movie. The theme song is '80s rock song "The Warrior" by Scandal. You'll hear it many times. You'll hear the Adventure era Knuckles raps zero times in this. You'll briefly hear classic A Tribe Called Quest song "Can I Kick It?" before Knuckles takes the question too literally and breaks the radio in Wade's car.

Beyond a handful of surface level references for nerds (one of which is admittedly wild - we'll get to that), this is probably the least an officially licensed adaptation of Sonic the Hedgehog has ever tried to actually engage with its source material. I struggle to think of another Sonic adaptation that has less to do with Sonic. For as much shit as I and countless others have given Penders for seemingly ignoring the content of the games in favor of building his own convoluted mythos, his Knuckles comics honestly included way more elements from the games than this show does.

Somehow, the one new(-ish) Sonic character introduced in this is the ghost of Pachacamac of all characters. Not even Tikal! Pachacamac! A very minor character nobody has particularly strong feelings about! You can't even use the excuse that they already had the character model, because they completely redesigned him compared to his cameo in the first movie to better match his Sonic Adventure design. And he's voiced by Christopher Lloyd! Honestly, so many of his lines are strained that it sounds like he's on death's door here, but then he'll surprise you with a more casual line like "just do it, man" and it catches me so off guard that I can't help but laugh.

Pachacamac here has basically nothing to do with the game character he takes his name and appearance from. Where the game character was a cruel warlord who kicked off a 3000 year cycle of violence, Paramount Pachacamac is now just this chill old man who gives Knuckles (and later Wade) advice in two episodes of the show. Hell, he also feels completely disconnected from his established role in the movies, where he's literally the guy who shot Longclaw. The show will not grapple with this contradiction at all. He's just here to be a thing fans like me will recognize from the games. Again, if that's all they wanted, it's kind of baffling that they didn't just use Tikal.

I don't love Knuckles in this

But what about Knuckles himself? Well, he doesn't feel all that much like Knuckles to me. Ironically, he sometimes feels like one of the weaker elements in his own show.

Back when the second movie came out, I noted that Knuckles' characterization seemed to be pulling heavily from MCU Thor as a gallant warrior from an archaic alien culture who doesn't really understand modern day Earth stuff. That worked for me in that movie. It was just there for spice. Just a little extra flavor for the character in what was otherwise a very faithful adaptation of Knuckles' storyline in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Without those familiar elements grounding him and with a much higher reliance on comedy, Idris Elba's Knuckles becomes a pretty one-note character in this.

In damn near every scene with Knuckles, he's going to say something about being a proud, honorable echidna warrior, or brag about his glorious feats of strength, or be confused about some Earth thing and call it sorcery, or act like every other character is also a member of some noble warrior clan. He still has his moments for sure, but this schtick kinda gets old fast, and it just doesn't feel like Knuckles to me. His entire character feels derived from the scene in the diner where Thor smashes the cup on the ground and goes "Another!" Sure, I can picture game Knuckles smashing a radio to turn it off and being a little too gung-ho about busting holes through walls. That's Knuckles behavior. But building a barbarian combat pit in the living room so the Wachowski family dog can fight the mailman? Nope. That's some other guy now. It really does just feel like them taking a broad character archetype from something popular that kinda sorta fits Knuckles and just running with that, rather than trying to actually adapt the character.

Oh, but don't worry, he wears the OVA hat for like two minutes! AND he loves grapes! See, Sonic nerds? We read the wiki! That's his favorite food! Grapes! This is gonna come up like five times!

Knuckles kind of gets an arc here, but not as much as Wade does. I think the stuff about him starting to feel at home on Earth thanks to Wade's mom and the way he connects with their Jewish family traditions is oddly sweet. This arc is kind of let down, though, by the fact that Knuckles' heritage is treated as a complete joke. He's a cartoonish pastiche of various historical warrior cultures stuck together in a blender and used mostly for comedic effect. When Pachacamac's ghost appears, he's reading a newspaper and bemoaning the fact that the Mets lost again. This is not the place for a serious examination of Knuckles' feelings on being the last of his kind.

This is far from the only time the show undercuts itself with its jokes and attempts at self-parody. In the first episode, for instance, Knuckles clashes with GUN Agent Mason and his tech-enhanced punches, leading to an extremely on-the-nose inversion of the "Do I look like I need your power?" scene showcased in the trailer for the second movie. Except this time, Agent Willoughby butts in and points out how stupid that line is in this new context, since they're literally trying to steal Knuckles' power. The fight can't just be cool, they have to get cute with it. A lot of stuff like that happens in this show.

Given all these complaints, the first two episodes left me thinking I'd be fairly negative on this show overall. This seemed like the version of the show from the fandom's collective nightmares, one that undoes all of the progress the movie series seemed to have been making towards faithfulness to the games. Like, just look at these cast posters. Is this what you want out of Sonic? Do these excite you?

But then, something strange happened. Over time, I just kind of let the jokes and shenanigans wash over me and basked in how fucking weird this show is.

And I started to actually enjoy it.

Look. The Wade & Knuckles Show was never going to be peak Sonic. But that sure as hell doesn't mean it can't be entertaining.

This show is so fucking goofy

Here's the thing.

The show is funny.

Unlike a lot of other people, I didn't hate all the wedding stuff in Hawaii in Sonic 2, because I thought a lot of it was funny, both in its actual jokes and in the ways in which they tied everything back to Sonic. Tom looking wistfully at some bodybuilders doing Top Gun shit and spraying each other with beer and being like "I wish Sonic had that" is weirdly funny. The twist that those muscle bros are all agents of the newly formed GUN, who orchestrated the wedding as an elaborate scheme to catch Sonic, is funny. Mr. Olive Garden becoming the fucking GUN Commander is VERY funny. Are any of these elements of my dream Sonic movie? No, of course not. But my dream Sonic movie was never gonna happen in live action.

The Knuckles show follows up on the comedy of the previous films by being probably the funniest live action Sonic release yet. Did every joke land for me? God no. There are some stinkers in there that made me roll my eyes. But enough of them landed that it worked out for me overall. A big part of this is the fact that they've got a good cast of actors and/or comedians here.

Adam Pally is funny as Wade, and I found myself liking him more and more as a character as the show went on. He becomes an oddly endearing loser, with some sweet moments in his personal arc that made me feel for the guy. I like Wade more than Tom now, thanks to this show. I will now be happier to see Wade in Sonic 3 than I would have been previously.

The supporting cast is frequently great, too, many of whom are playing completely cartoonish, over-the-top characters. They took a cue from how exaggerated Carrey's performance was as Robotnik and decided to just abandon all pretense that this is the real world. Stockard Channing as Wade's mom is funny, and carries some of the more sincere parts of the show. Cary Elwes as Wade's very British dad who abandoned him as a child to run off and be the world's most egotistical professional bowler is funny. Edi Patterson as Wade's sister Wanda is... well, she's kinda trying too hard, but she has her moments. The Mighty Boosh co-creator Julian Barratt(!!) as a scenery-chewing bounty hunter, who was also somehow Wade's former best friend and bowling partner, is VERY funny. I love this guy.

(Honestly, they should let more people who were on Garth Marenghi's Darkplace be in Sonic stuff. Where's Matt Berry)

This is kind of a stacked cast for a bunch of stupid side characters in a live action Knuckles show! And honestly, that just makes it funnier to me. Even when they're not funny, the fact that this exists makes it funny. They somehow convinced Paramount to give them a bunch of money to make a spiritual successor to Dodgeball about a schlubby guy who wants to beat his dad at a bowling tournament... except also Knuckles the fucking Echidna is there as his personal life coach. My life is richer for the fact that I can say that sentence. I think about all the little kids who are probably watching this show this weekend, going in expecting a show about Knuckles the Echidna and having to sit through extensive bowling scenes and lore about Wade's family, and sorry kids, but I just have to laugh. Wade isn't even on the poster! The poster is just a picture of Knuckles!! They punked those kids!!!

In a franchise where every single aspect is so carefully micromanaged these days, it feels truly special to get an adaptation this bonkers. It frequently appeals to the same part of me that enjoys the fact that there's an officially licensed Knuckles comic in which Charmy Bee's best friend (also a bee) dies of an accidental LSD overdose from a drug-laced chili dog. Or like, everything about the original 1993 Super Mario Bros. movie. Or the fact that they made seven direct-to-DVD sequels to Alpha and Omega, one of which is half a retread of the adventure from the first movie (with more annoying supporting characters in tow this time) and half a literal clip show of the first movie. The sheer absurdity of the fact that these things exist is charming to me. Except, with the Knuckles show, it has the added benefit of frequently being funny on purpose! This is why I'm not sure I'd call it "so bad it's good." Like, it's not amazing, but there were a lot of parts that I enjoyed in the exact way I was supposed to enjoy them.

Look. Here's a list of real lines of dialogue from the Sega-approved Knuckles the Echidna streaming show that they're billing as a pillar of the Paramount+ lineup, to drive this point home. Let these marinate for a minute:

"I only eat grapes, and Cool Ranch Doritos™."

"Annihilate this little girl, Wade. Crush her spirit. Humiliate her so badly her parents won't even look at her again." "Doesn't that seem like we're going a bit far?" "Not far enough."

"So is he Jewish?" "Half, I think."

"I had a friend who when he listened to Alien Ant Farm he could lift a Toyota Corolla over his head."

"I'm in dire financial straits. Due to my lawsuit against an unnamed rainforest-themed restaurant franchise, I don't have two pennies to my name."

"We're here in sunny Reno, Nevada, which is so close to Hell you can smell the sparks."

"You can't threaten me with your Jewish karate chops because I am a federal agent."

"I will say, regardless of how you feel about child abandonment - and I'm against it! - the deals at TJ Maxx can't be beat."

This is a Sonic show in which they got Paul Scheer and Rob Huebel to appear as ESPN 8: The Ocho commentators.

This is a show where Wade's mom insists upon pronouncing "Knuckles" with the throaty Hebrew "ch" sound, and declares that Knuckles is basically Jewish. Later, they watch Pretty Woman together while enjoying a nice slice of key lime pie. Knuckles comments: "I don't understand. This young streetwalker with a heart made of gold, why do the others treat her with such disdain? Is it so wrong to walk the streets?"

This is a show where the fourth episode is directed by one of the guys from The Lonely Island and features a hallucinatory low budget rock opera stage musical put on by the ghost of Pachacamac. It recounts Knuckles' life story, with Wade playing Knuckles and the "evil" Longclaw played by the bounty hunter guy who's played by the Mighty Boosh guy.

Look at this.

And also, Knuckles' singing voice is provided by Michael Bolton, which they proudly announce in the middle of the musical.

And also...

Also...???

IBLIS IS IN IT????????????

Yes, Iblis!

From Sonic '06!!

Knuckles is said to have looked for a mythical power called the "Flames of Disaster" to avenge his clan, which ended up being the power that was within him all along that lets him do fire punches yadda yadda yadda. As part of this, he apparently fought Iblis off-screen at some point, as conveyed with the giant singing papier-mâché Iblis in the musical.

...Then Iblis sings about hitting up Facebook Marketplace

How? How does any of this exist? Why reference '06 of all games? How did Iblis get into the live action Sonic movie universe before Amy and Metal Sonic? Why are they using Iblis and the term "Flames of Disaster" in such a goofy way that completely disregards their original context?

I don't know. I don't know how any of this happened. But I love it. We got a Knuckles miniseries in which Michael Bolton sings the phrase "the Flames of Disaster." The world is a beautiful place sometimes.

Some people will tell you to skip episode four. "Knuckles is barely even in it," they say. "It's dumb and pointless," they say. "They clearly just ran out of special effects budget," they say. These are people whose opinions you should disregard. The episode with the least Knuckles in it is somehow the most entertaining episode of the show. I would, in fact, go as far as to say that if you only decide to watch one episode of the Knuckles show to see what goofy bullshit they get up to, it should be this one.

I cannot be mad at this show. It's so dumb, but it completely owns the fact that it's a dumb and unnecessary spinoff. Inferiority is baked into its very DNA. It's very self-consciously redoing the premise of the first movie, but stupider. It's about The Other Cop from the movies, instead of the competent one. Instead of being into a "cooler" sport, his life revolves around professional bowling. Instead of going to Vegas, he goes to Reno. Even his tragic backstory that shaped his entire life sucks. He was abandoned by his pro bowler dad in a TJ Maxx. Not even a nicer department store. A fucking TJ Maxx. This whole show is a Dril tweet.

They put a ton of effort into making it dumb in an occasionally spectacular way. So much effort was put into that joke rock opera that fans will just write off as stupid filler. They put their whole pussies into it. This is not a poorly made show. This has better production values than half the shit made for Disney+. This was made with love. Maybe not as much love for the Sonic the Hedgehog series of video games as we'd like, but it's love nonetheless.

Maybe this show broke me and these are the ramblings of a madwoman. Maybe I'm just really nostalgic for the '90s and '00s comedy movies all the Wade stuff is modeled after. Maybe the Alan Wake fan in me just really loves it when a story pivots to a silly rock opera for no real reason. I won't discount any of these possibilities. This isn't high art. This isn't something I would recommend to anyone with zero interest in Sonic, and it also isn't going to sway Sonic fans who hate the Paramount universe. I really can't blame them for being bewildered by this show. But for a specific type of person, this is the absurd three-star Sonic-adjacent comedy miniseries of your dreams. It's a mid masterpiece.

Again, I just have to step back, realize the fact that this shouldn't exist, and smile. Sega's too afraid to do stupid bullshit with the franchise like this these days. And I can't blame them, after years of Sonic being a treated as a laughingstock. But part of me misses some of the goofy shit. No matter how much I tore some of the Archie comics apart as I was reading them for this blog, I just look back on stuff like Cal and Al or the Many Hands issues and laugh. And that same part of me looks at this show about Knuckles being the sidekick to this fucking guy, and just goes...

"We're so back."

In conclusion, I genuinely think this was a more enjoyable TV show than Sonic Prime.

I wouldn't go back and rewatch Sonic Prime anytime soon, aside from maybe, like, a couple of the Shadow-heavy episodes. Huge stretches of that show bored me to tears. The writers squandered all of that show's potential. But I would rewatch the Knuckles show, which takes a terrible premise and has a lot of fun with it, in a heartbeat. Even the bowling parts. The bowling scenes in the Knuckles show are more engaging than 70% of the fights in Sonic Prime. I am not trolling. I mean that sincerely, with all my heart. Don't @ me.

Stray observations

There is effectively zero meaningful setup for the third movie in this, unless Wade's family or the two GUN agents come back or something. Project Shadow is not mentioned in this. There is no secret post-credits scene with Gerald

The CGI in this is pretty good. Not quite on par with the movies, but pretty good. Sonic's weird forehead wrinkles are distracting in his scenes though. Please fix that

I wouldn't say I liked this as much as the second movie, which obviously gets a ton of points for, you know. The Cool Sonic Shit. But I had more fun with it than the first movie, which I still feel is a painfully generic family movie that was only saved by Tyson's redesign

"Grapes are an interesting choice for someone who doesn't use his individual fingers."

Agent Willoughby was apparently the one at GUN who had to buy the Olive Garden gift cards and set up the fake wedding. Her origin story is that she hated doing shit like that and wanted to go fight aliens

This miniseries contains another Keanu namedrop because Wade's childhood bedroom has a Speed poster on the wall. I swear, if Sonic doesn't say Shadow sounds just like Keanu...

Knuckles is familiar with Paul Blart Mall Cop

Near the end the ESPN 8: The Ocho commentators say that the 1974 Reno bowling championship was also interrupted by an extraterrestrial, and given that was exactly 50 years ago I can't write off the possibility that that was Shadow. Please for the love of god give us a sequel series after the third movie where Wade takes Shadow the Hedgehog bowling. I need this more than I need air

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mama-qwerty · 1 month

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Okay, I'm gonna think out loud here, and probably read WAAAAY too much into things. Again.

So. Episode 4 of the series. The rock opera--that was pretty awesome, really--Wade assumes the role of Knuckles and is walked through the 'history' of the echidna's past. Which was not accurate, in any way, shape, or form.

And it also had little tidbits of Wade's life, such as Jack as the narrator, the whole thing being held in a bowling alley, and "Iblis" talking about "hitting up Marketplace".

What if the whole fever dream rock opera wasn't to show Knuckles' warrior path, but Wade's?

It shows "Knux" and his father fighting side by side against the owls. I went back and rewatched that bit and there seemed to be 10 owls--the same number as pins in a bowling game. "Knuckles" and his father fighting the owls could symbolize Wade and his father going bowling together.

But then the owls took "Knuckles'" father. Just like bowling took Wade's.

Now "Knuckles" is alone and faced with threats and dangers he can't defeat as he is. He needed to get stronger.

Wade was alone and couldn't defeat the things he had been facing--feelings of rejection, and abandonment.

So "Knuckles" trained to defeat this great enemy, one that seemed ready to take the echidna down until he discovered his greatest strength was in his heart, not his fists.

Wade isn't a fighter. But he has a strong heart. And he stood up to dangers he never thought he could before. Including his father.

"Iblis" could be a representation of either the negative feelings Wade developed after Pete left, or it could represent Pete himself. And in the end, Wade defeated it, with Knuckles' help.

Now, I don't know how Pachacamac fits into this. I do not trust that shifty spirit, and think there's something more at play than we know. There has to be a reason he told Knux to train Wade specifically.

Wade's . . . well, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He's trusting and easily manipulated, and not exactly someone you would choose to represent your fallen warrior race.

So, what if Knuckles isn't the Iblis trigger, but Wade is.

In a separate post I theorized that Sonic may have sent the chaos emeralds back in time, and one could have ended up being the bowling trophy that Pete has his grubby little mitts on.

What if, over the course of things, Wade somehow got Iblis trapped inside him, and that's why he's always been such a happy-go-lucky guy. He can't get upset. He can't get angry. He can't cry. Something in the back of his mind tells him that it would be bad if he did. So he doesn't.

He essentially has this monster lurking inside him, holding all the bad feelings he won't allow himself to recognize.

We don't know how the whole Iblis thing works in the SCU. Knuckles' sudden flame powers could be connected to Iblis, or they could be something separate. We don't know.

Pachacamac is up to something. And I don't think it bodes well for Wade.

#thinking out loud #knuckles series #knuckles the echidna #wade whipple

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katlyntheartist · 1 month

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Knuckle series is out!! Any thoughts? Does it affect your Jojo and Gang au?

Spoilers for the Knuckles series people! Avert your eyes children!

First, let's talk about the things I liked:

- Sonic and Tails were great for as little screen time as they had. And Maddie trying to be patient with Knuckles while also not strangling him was great, haha. As someone who worked at a Daycare, I related to her dealing with kids like Knuckles and Maddie's facial expressions when she was grounding Knuckles were on point. Also THEY HAVE A PLAIN BED FOR TAILS AND A TRUCK BED FOR KNUCKLES AHHHHH!!!!!

-Pachacamac is a Jedi Force ghost? Alright then. I don't know much about this character outside of Sonic X but I thought that he was fine. And Christopher Lloyd does a great job as usual.

-Wade was not terrible. I like how he has some character growth through the series and at the end he isn't a master warrior/fighter. He's still a goofball but now he's thinking things through and using what he has and his current surroundings to his advantage in a fight, and isn't just hiding and waiting for Knuckles to save him. But him breaking out of the cage in episode 4 was a bit ridiculous. What was that cage made of, cardboard? He really should have broken his hand or something.

-I liked the villains but I wish that we got to see them more involved in the story, especially the buyer. Who was menacing for about five minutes and then was crushed to death like, dang 0-0

-NANA WHIPPLE AND KNUCKLES SPINOFF SHOW PLEASE!!

-Knuckles was the best part of the show. He's the strong tough warrior but with a big heart and good intentions, though a bit misguided at times. Idris did a great job, nothing new there.

And now let's get into the things I didn't like:

-The show is %70 Wade bowling story and %30 Knuckles adjusting to earth and his backstory with Pachacamac and his tribe and his connection to the master emerald and everything else that the show should have been about. The Wade sub plot takes up so much time that we don't get to explore Knuckles. I wished that we had gotten to see him learn to appreciate and call Earth his new home instead of him just accepting it at the end. It just felt so rushed.

-Episode four wasn't awful but I didn't care for it. Also you can NOT show us the Flames of Disaster from '06 and not have Silver or Blaze show up. You can't do that >:(

-Knuckles and Maddie didn't get to have a heart to heart conversation which is what I and many others thought that was what the show was building up to. Also he never gets in trouble for running way and we never cut back to seeing Maddie or Sonic and Tails realizing Knuckles is gone, or even Sonic and Tails trying to cover for Knuckles. I get that the CGI was expensive and voice actor and actor schedules might not have worked out for it to happen, but my point still stands.

-Wanda was useless and you could have cut her out and lost nothing. Don't get me wrong, the actress is good but she feels wasted here. Her character is so annoying and serves no purpose other than to be mean to Wade. And why do we have to have the "siblings who hate each other but make up at the end" cliche? I would have liked Wanda more if she was nicer to Wade from the start and if they had a fun sibling bond with each other. Also if she was able to actually use her skills as an FBI agent to at least hold her own against the gang when they attack Nanna Whipple's house. Also the dad needed to be more comedically villainous, he was too generic.

-Like I said the villains here are fine but the Buyer's whole character is to just show up, have a cool robot fight, and die. We don't get to see him be a threat to Knuckles at all, he just appears for the climax and then is offed in a snap. And the two agents were fun but a lot of their dialogue was graining.

-And that leads me to the main problem with the series. The writing. I'm aware that the writers for the main movies didn't work much on this series, except Jeff did do the first episode. Which is why it's the best one. There is no balance between the jokes and the emotional moments. The show is so focused on trying to make you laugh every five minutes that it sacrifices genuine emotional growth for the characters especially for Knuckles. You know, the whole reason for the show existing in the first place. It suffers the same problems that the live action Ton and Jerry movie had, where the main stars weren't allowed to be the main stars of their film. All of the screen time there went to the human characters who weren't interesting or just plain annoying and mean.

And the dialogue for the show teeters back and forth between actually funny/well written and being dangerously close to obnoxious. And kids shows having jokes all the time isn't a problem. Rottmnt and the Lego Movies are both kid properties that fire off a joke every minute but they knew when to cut back and let the emotional moments shine. The jokes in the Knuckles show felt more like they were pandering to four year old's then actually trying to be funny and the emotional moments felt kind of forced.

I don't want to give any of the writers or anyone who worked on this show a hard time. I can see that everyone worked hard and had fun with this. And I had fun too. There were some good moments between Knuckles and Wade and even a few jokes that got me. But the problems I listed above are just to hard for me to ignore. If you liked the Knuckles series then great for you! I'm happy you were able to have a great time! But for me it was just ok.

Not great. But not bad either. 5/10.

Now, about this affecting Jojo and Gang. I think what I'll do is have comic take place a month after the Knuckles series. And use my AU to focus on Knuckles getting accustomed to Earth and learning to call it home. Basically my AU will do what the Knuckles series didn't.

#katlyn talks #knuckles spoilers #knuckles tv show #knuckles series

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welcome-to-green-hills · 1 month

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I don’t really know how to say that without sounding like I’m being salty but I know that you’re going to get what I’m saying here. Everyone being mean to one another about the miniseries and calling each other out and here you are trying to be a little ray of sunshine for everyone. So thank you for being a safe place

Hi Honey❤️✨

I understand what you’re trying to say. I do. And know that I appreciate the compliment. Please understand that I’m NOT going to think any less of you if you like or didn’t like the miniseries. You’re a human being and still a Sonic at the end of the day. You deserve to be treated like an equal with me. It’s perfectly okay to have a preference. I promise. And it’s perfectly okay to like bits a pieces of the show only.

There are some things that I didn’t like for the series, like that bit where Wade mispronounces Pachacamac’s name. For those of you who don’t know, my archaeological work is very heavily NAGPRA-based; I work with Indigenous tribes in repatriating history. I hear jokes like that a lot in my line of work because some people may think that they’re being “adorable” for mispronouncing a name. It’s not, it’s pretty mean. I really didn’t like that joke.

Point being, I love it when you share your thoughts with me. I try to make it a safe and calming space here so that you can share your feelings. No one deserves to be treated like they’re less than dirt for having a preference. If you’ve only liked the first episode, then that’s great! I’m happy for you! If you didn’t like the miniseries, that’s perfectly okay. I’m happy that you’ve tried it and moved onto something else.

At the end of the day, we’re all human beings. It’s important to take a step back and remember that kindness and compassion are key when engaging with people online. Let’s make sure that we’re doing our part in being clear and respectful to one another.

#knuckles series #knuckles show #Mystery anon #off topic

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Knuckles 2024 spoilers while I’m musing about some stuff:

At first I wasn’t overly sure about turning Chief Pachacamac into a silly old retired guy from Florida, as funny and goofy as he was. But after sleeping on it and thinking about it for a bit, this change from the original is actually pretty solid when you stop and think about it.

Knuckles has this huge thing about honor and loyalty and has been betrayed and stabbed in the back over the years.

In canon he just kinda knows about what happened in the past, hears about what his people did, but here, where Pachacamac comes to him at the wEIRDEST time imaginable, Knuckles actually knows him.

He not only has a great deal of respect for Pachacamac, but also feels grateful to him for helping him when he needed it and has been endeared to him through these vision talks.

………

So how much of a gut punch is it gonna be when we get to Sonic 3 and he has to learn everything Pachacamac did not only to others but to his own tribe in pAINSTAKING detail?

Assuming they’re keeping the stuff about chaos, they HAVE to keep the stuff about the echidnas’ role in that, right?

Can you IMAGINE how much this is going to challenge Knuckles’ view of his people and one of their “greatest” chiefs?

I think if they do end up sticking to that, it wouldn’t feel quite as strong if we just jumped straight to Sonic 3 and getting to the lore we know. I don’t think it would hit quite as hard if we didn’t get to see Knuckles showing so much adoration and respect and fostering this sense of gratitude towards

Ya know

Who he doesn’t know is basically a war criminal

Which I imagine the movie itself just wouldn’t have the time for, ya know?

As silly and goofy and campy and legitimately dumb as this series kinda was, I think it fostered a lot of good character work for Knuckles.

…

The Shabbat episode was like legitimately good content tho, I’d have just watched that by itself, that shit was wholesome and heartwarming as FUCK

Even if Wanda was completely insufferable. seriously idk if it's the actress or the directing but she was

annoying and unpleasant

the mom was fantastic tho, i loved her

#knuckles series #knuckles series spoilers #paramount sonic

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Sonic the Hedgehog. One of the greatest and most attractive characters ever thought up. He can run at sound speed, take out enemies in a flash, and best of all, he's blue colored and knows how to handle the females. Speaking of females, the Sonic universe might also be classified as "Hot Chick Heaven" because there's such a mess of very beautiful and tough women that it will make you love the franchise even more! And since Valentine's Day is around the corner, I've been inspired to make a top 10 list of the most beautiful female Sonic characters. Grab yourself a snack and a glass of orange juice, and try not to reach through the screen because HERE WE GO!

10: Try this question on for size. Who chases and hugs Sonic all the time and wields a powerful hammer? Why it's Amy Rose of course! Though more of a cutie than a hottie, you can't deny the fact that she's still attractive. Two things that make her attractive are the fact that she wears a dress, and when have you ever seen 3 big, very smooth arcs of hair sticking out of a person's forehead? I haven't! So once again, Amy Rose is lovely; that is until she goes berserk and starts hitting stuff with her hammer.

Who's at number 9? It's this alien plant girl from a distant planet. Cosmo, from Sonic X. She arrived on the character's planet to deliver a message saying that the galaxy was under attack by a force called the Metarex. She doesn't do much except tell people to stop fighting and focus on the real matter at hand. The real reason she lands at the #9 is that she becomes Miles "Tails" Prower's sweetheart, something Tails needed for a long while.

Numero Ocho. Cream the Rabbit's mother, Vanilla. She's attractive and the size of an average human mother. What really surprises me about her is that the leader of Team Chaotix, Vector the Crocodile, falls in love with her. Kinda silly, don't you think? She's another character that doesn't do much, but in a season 3 episode of Sonic X, she helps Chris Thorndyke get into space to fight the Metarex along with Sonic and friends.

What number's next? Seven, of course. Wave the Swallow from Sonic Riders. People always root for the good guys, but sometimes, the bad guys steal the show. Her mechanical IQ is equal to Tails. She also happens to be the smartest member of the Babylon Rogues. I wonder why she isn't the leader. Like Jet the Hawk and Storm the Albatross, her specialty is riding the air-boards called "Extreme Gear". With two very long and smooth feathers extending from her head to her calves and droopy eyes, Wave will rock your socks. If only we could see her take wing.

Numero Six. Tikal the Echidna from Sonic Adventure 1. Named after an ancient Mayan city of the same name, Tikal is the daughter of Chief Pachacamac. She's yet another character that hardly does a thing except beg her father to stop being so greedy. She also traps herself inside the Master Emerald so that the water god Chaos doesn't reign terror upon the land. When you're the daughter of a person in the highest power, you need to look your best and Tikal delivers perfectly. That's why she's #6.

Number #1, #2, #3, #4, #5! Ah-Ah-Ahhh! Mina Mongoose from the Sonic Archie comics. How could you go wrong with a girl that looks like this? She can run nearly as fast as Sonic and she went from being a Freedom Fighter to being a popstar singer. Next to Princess Sally she looks more humanoid than the other characters. Who could top someone who has long (some French word I don't know) hair?

This female standing at number 4: Blaze the Cat. One word: Pyrokinesis. How would you like to have that superpower? I mean Blaze could play around in the Himalayas for hours and she would be perfectly fine! Also, 45 degree ponytail makes her look like a Native American. I really like the fact that her love interest is the telekinetic hedgehog Silver. The combination of mind-moving and fire superpowers make these two a reliable couple. But what really lands Blaze in the #4 spot is that her attitudes apparently more different from the other females.

Next up is #3. What's better than having a female with cascading quills? How about a female with cascading quills and hair? Julie-Su the Echidna, another Archie comic exclusive has that feature. She's smart, knows exactly what to do as a freedom fighter, and even trained Amy once. She's also the girl of Knuckles' dreams. Heh, lucky him. Her older self in the series Mobius: X Years Later is just downright hot! Just look at that long ponytail! Now we're talkin'!

1, 2, button my shoe! Princess Sally Acorn. There's a lot to say about this character. She's the heir to the throne, Sonic's first official romance, the only character that used to not wear clothes, brave and athletic, the most humanoid character, and is like a mother to Tails. In the TV show, Sonic SatAM, one Freedom Fighter, the cowardly Antoine constantly tries to woo Sally, but doesn't succeed because... he's a coward! The Princess is also a semi-perfect example of an excellent love interest, although there were a couple of times when she really snapped and acted like a lunatic; in the comics, that is. But overall, Sally Acorn really stands out amongst the slew of females not just because she's Sonic's first official love interest, or because she's the only one who didn't wear clothes, but because in the comics, she grew very long hair, and married Sonic in the future, becoming the Queen.

So, you've seen a pyrokinetic Cat, a swallow, two gorgeous echidnas, and even a princess! Who could possibly top those kinds of females? Well, get ready folks; this is the #1 hottest Sonic the Hedgehog female character. Rouge the Bat. If anybody denies it, how dare you? This woman can fly, she's as strong as Knuckles, and is a femme fatale, seducing other characters into getting what she wants. Instead of having one love interest, she has two! Knuckles, and Shadow the Hedgehog. Being a treasure thief, she's only interested in one object set; jewels, especially the Chaos Emeralds. There actually have been situations where Rouge's cleavage has been exposed, but it eventually got censored. What a price to pay. I think the best part about this beauty is that she wears three different outfits unlike the other female characters. And who wouldn't want to fly across the landscape via strong as Shawn Johnson, and flirt with any male, anytime, anywhere. These three traits make Rouge the Bat triumph over all of the Sonic the Hedgehog females. My hat goes off to you Sonic Team USA. You oughta be proud.

There ya have it folks. Those were the hottest female chicks in the Sonic universe. I hope you enjoyed it, happy Valentine's Day, and I'll see you later.

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Tikal is a strong female Sonic character

The scene is set. The echidna world is literally falling to pieces. Everything is being consumed by fire, the helpless blue creatures are slaughtered to death, the once gentle guardian of the emerald altar is provoked. His anger becomes so strong he transforms into a violent monster and kills Pachacamac and his army. Now the whole world is on the line. Everything seems hopeless. Who will save the day? You can feel goosebumps on your neck just thinking about it.

Pachacamac's daughter, Tikal can't do anything about it can she? Why would she? She doesn't have a robot-smashing hammer like Amy, stealth and rock-shattering gymnastics like Rouge or pyrokinesis like Blaze. She's also injured from getting trampled on by her own father and his men. Wouldn't it be easier for her to hide and heal her wounds? Wouldn't it be easier for her to just sit here and cry as the world around her slowly crumbles into destruction? We probably would if we were her.

Despite all this, Tikal did the unexpected: She used the mantra to activate the Master Emerald's power and sealed herself and the monstrous Chaos into the Master Emerald, risking possibly being frozen forever so that the world can be saved and have peace again.

And yet she's still not given nearly enough credit for what she did compared to the other characters? The heck?!

There is a notion that to be strong, you have to fight back with fists and kicks, talk back and be independent. But like life, strength isn't always black and white. Strength can come in different shapes and forms. Some are physical, some are mental. Strength can be unique to women as well since they're usually physically not as strong as men. So what kind of strengths do Sonic girls have?

Amy wields a powerful Piko Piko hammer and a temper and these two are so strong they scare even the toughest guys such as Sonic and Knuckles. Rouge has stealth, great hearing, manipulation, bombs, flexibility and physical strength that rivals Knuckles. Blaze has speed, a fiery temper, a connection to the Sol Emeralds and pyrokinesis.

Tikal's strength however is a little different.

Sure Tikal has spiritual powers, but the thing is… She wasn't born with them, she gained them after being released from the Master Emerald and thanks to her main strength: Mental.

3000 years ago in the Mystic Ruins, the people at that time didn't have modern conveniences to live with. They couldn't pull out a phone to look up information about the Altar of the Emeralds. Their only education sources were written papers and scrolls. They also didn't have cars or airplanes, so they just have to walk and exercise throughout the day. But it didn't mean they weren't happy without modern conveniences. In fact, Tikal respected her grandmother and held her teachings and peaceful way of life dear to her heart. As a daughter of a powerful chief, Tikal also most likely had to learn responsibilities such as knitting, cooking, cleaning and caretaking so she can care for herself and others.

If Tikal's grandmother was the one who taught her survival skills, she was wise in doing so before her son took over her reign. When Pachacamac became chief, he turns his once calm and peaceful tribe into a warlike and power-hungry nation, attacking other countries, stealing and killing. Tikal did not like the changes her father made to the clan. Tikal obviously does not enjoy being in changed circumstances. Despite it however, there is one thing about her that didn't change: Mental strength.

Tikal was still kind and encourages peace. She earns the trust of Chaos and the Chao with her kindness and unprejudicedness. She showed her concern for their lives and did the best she could to protect them. Even after being released from the M.E, she still didn't turn into a brooding revenge-seeker like Shadow. She seeked help instead of relying on her own strength. She gently guided others to learn about Chaos and what happened to him. Because of that, Sonic and his friends found a way to heal Chaos from negative energy, bring him back to his gentle self and save the world. This would not have happened if it weren't for Tikal.

Tikal truly is a remarkable young lady and we need more people like her in the world full of selfishness and chaos.🧡

This is part 1 of my essay series on how Tikal is a strong female character, I plan on making more to go further into depth on her trauma and strength some time. This post is also on DeviantART if you wanna check it out there. C:

#Sonic the Hedgehog #Sonic #Tikal the Echidna #Tikal #Pro Tikal #Sonic Adventure #Sonic X #Characterization #Character analysis #Strong female characters #Tikal has PSTD #Tikal is underrated #Tikal deserves better #Tikal needs more love #Cloudy chats #Analysis #Essay #Sonic meta

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Number 10: Try this question on for size. Who chases and hugs Sonic all the time and wields a powerful hammer? Why it's Amy Rose of course! Though more of a cutie than a hottie, you can't deny the fact that she's still attractive. Two things that make her attractive are the fact that she wears a dress, and when have you ever seen 3 big, very smooth arcs of hair sticking out of a person's forehead? I haven't! So once again, Amy Rose is lovely; that is until she goes berserk and starts hitting stuff with her hammer.

Number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5! Ah-Ah-Ahhh! Mina Mongoose from the Sonic Archie comics. How could you go wrong with a girl that looks like this? She can run nearly as fast as Sonic and she went from being a Freedom Fighter to being a popstar singer. Next to Princess Sally she looks more humanoid than the other characters. Who could top someone who has long mauve hair?

Number 1, 2, button my shoe! Princess Sally Acorn. There's a lot to say about this character. She's the heir to the throne, Sonic's first official romance, the only character that used to not wear clothes, brave and athletic, the most humanoid character, and is like a mother to Tails. In the TV show, Sonic SatAM, one Freedom Fighter, the cowardly Antoine constantly tries to woo Sally, but doesn't succeed because... he's a coward! The Princess is also a semi-perfect example of an excellent love interest, although there were a couple of times when she really snapped and acted like a lunatic; in the comics, that is. But overall, Sally Acorn really stands out amongst the slew of females not just because she's Sonic's first official love interest, or because she's the only one who didn't wear clothes, but because in the comics, she grew very long hair, and married Sonic in the future, becoming the Queen.

There ya have it folks. Those were the hottest female chicks in the Sonic universe. I hope you enjoyed it, happy Valentine's Day, and I'll see you later. HERE WE GO!

#geotxt

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Okay so, question then about the chaos champion timeline. Was he just some guy who the chaos force heavily favored, or was he a mutated chao like chaos that made the chaos force go "mmmm, perfect."

OKAY: short answer and “canon” to what i’ll actually write: i plan to keep it ambiguous:

long answer: chaos force made him

here’s the thing: the chaos force has been trying to escape its emerald confines ever since the collective power of multiple gods sealed them inside (short summary: the gods thought the chaos force was real fucking annoying and slam dunked them into another dimension [within the emeralds]. the chaos emeralds are really their only ability to reach out to the people in this dimension. they don’t always get a say in how that power is used, however). they want OUT. they don’t care how. it’s their rightful place to inflict chaos on the universe.

so what they used to try to do is lend their power to any mobian around. it’s a parasitic relationship disguised as a symbiotic relationship: the mobian gets these cool powers and the chaos force can come out and play (and try to fucking possess them). doesn’t super work out well, leads to a lot of Bad Things (fall of the first and second civilizations, etc). they still lend their power, because it’s fun to see what people end up doing with Pure Chaos, but otherwise they scratch that plan.

okay, plan B: mutate and posses a less sentient creature.

aka, chaos, the mutated chao guardian of the master emerald.

chaos was an attempt at keeping annoying forces (uncreative humans/mobians who just wanna use their power for glory and conquest. spice it up a bit!) from bothering them. so they created the first guardian of the emeralds. but that wasn’t chaos’s only role.

chaos mutated the chao over millennia, after they gave up on just trying to posses people through the emeralds. it cycles through a bunch of times until it eventually becomes chaos. but by the time it finally becomes chaos, it also meets Tikal. you know how that goes.

pachacamac attacks, hurts tikal and the chao, and chaos goes beserk. the chaos force wants to take control over chaos, and while it had some leeway, chaos is still its own SEPERATE, sentient being, and far too emotional to let the chaos force in. Tikal manages to seal chaos and herself away, and the chaos force decides to go for their third and final plan:

create a lifeform on their own.

so, over the course of four thousand years, the chaos force tries to spare some excess chaos energy left behind after people tamper with the emeralds into staying in the dimension. years and years and years, until BOOM! they create a little blue hedgehog on a remote island. pure chaos. pure energy. but disguised as a little blue hedgehog.

the chaos force has been burned a couple of times so they decide to let the hedgehog roam around and live a bit before they take over. they need a strong host, and they need the hedgehog to prove itself as one before even bothering to try to escape.

first ten or so years are pretty calm. the hedgehog scopes out the wildlife on Christmas Island and essentially remains a completely feral and chaotic child until BOOM. someone visits the island for the first time in four thousand years.

Ivo robotnik.

he finds the kid, names him sonic, and then eventually betrays him. super sad.

the chaos force see eggman as a great chance to test out their new host. the host defeats Eggman, and the emeralds willingly lend their strength to Eggman on numerous occasions, watching and waiting for their Champion to come and save them, to prove its worth.

eventually, sonic unlocks the ability to harness their energy, and fate is sealed. the emeralds have their host, and are simply waiting until he’s strong enough to handle them at one hundred percent power… and as sonic goes on to terrorize and defeat sonic, without even half the power the emeralds can actually give him, the chaos force’s hope soars. finally, a proper host.

not long before Sonic’s 18th birthday, he unlocks a new super transformation… and the chaos force realizes that sonic is finally ready.

and thus, the apocalypse occurs.

#Gaia has no influence on sonic because he’s literally the only person on earth made WITHOUT gaia #since gaia equates light and dark and life and death #master emerald brothel

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Speaking of females, the Sonic universe might also be classified as "Hot Chick Heaven" because there's such a mess of very beautiful and tough women that it will make you love the franchise even more! And since Valentine's Day is around the corner, I've been inspired to make a top 10 list of the most beautiful female Sonic characters. Grab yourself a snack and a glass of orange juice, and try not to reach through the screen because HERE WE GO!

Who could top someone who has long mauve hair? This female standing at number 4: Blaze the Cat. One word: Pyrokinesis. How would you like to have that superpower? I mean Blaze could play around in the Himalayas for hours and she would be perfectly fine! Also, 45 degree ponytail makes her look like a Native American. I really like the fact that her love interest is the telekinetic hedgehog Silver. The combination of mind-moving and fire superpowers make these two a reliable couple. But what really lands Blaze in the #4 spot is that her attitudes apparently more different from the other females.

1, 2, button my shoe! Princess Sally Acorn. There's a lot to say about this character. She's the heir to the throne, Sonic's first official romance, the only character that used to not wear clothes, brave and athletic, the most humanoid character, and is like a mother to Tails. In the TV show, Sonic SatAM, one Freedom Fighter, the cowardly Antoine constantly tries to woo Sally, but doesn't succeed because… he's a coward! The Princess is also a semi-perfect example of an excellent love interest, although there were a couple of times when she really snapped and acted like a lunatic; in the comics, that is. But overall, Sally Acorn really stands out amongst the slew of females not just because she's Sonic's first official love interest, or because she's the only one who didn't wear clothes, but because in the comics, she grew very long hair, and married Sonic in the future, becoming the Queen. So, you've seen a pyrokinetic Cat, a swallow, two gorgeous echidnas, and even a princess!

Who could possibly top those kinds of females? Well, get ready folks; this is the #1 hottest Sonic the Hedgehog female character. Rouge the Bat. If anybody denies it, how dare you? This woman can fly, she's as strong as Knuckles, and is a femme fatale, seducing other characters into getting what she wants. Instead of having one love interest, she has two! Knuckles, and Shadow the Hedgehog. Being a treasure thief, she's only interested in one object set; jewels, especially the Chaos Emeralds. There actually have been situations where Rouge's cleavage has been exposed, but it eventually got censored. What a price to pay. I think the best part about this beauty is that she wears three different outfits unlike the other female characters. And who wouldn't want to fly across the landscape, be as strong as Shawn Johnson, and flirt with any male, anytime, anywhere. These three traits make Rouge the Bat triumph over all of the Sonic the Hedgehog females. My hat goes off to you Sonic Team USA. You oughta be proud. There ya have it folks. Those were the hottest female chicks in the Sonic universe. I hope you enjoyed it, happy Valentine's Day, and I'll see you later. HERE WE GO!

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Legacy of Shinra Reboot ~ Origins of the Ink Demon Chapter 1 Pt. 3 ~

"Around 6 years ago..."

[Flooded Station Square]

Sonic : I can't believe that Station Square is gone. People have died and there were survivors. All the buildings have been destroyed, and Casinopolis is washed out!

Tails : But only thing is...All's well that ends well, right?

Sonic : Tails! Don't you realize everybody is dead and Chaos literally flooded the whole town!? They lost their lives and the whole city is flooded, more importantly, people just lost their business! I had to come up to stop that water monster from destroying the world! Knuckles, your ancestor was such a douchebag after he murdered all those Chao and this was happened here in the present. Do you realize that how'd this happened and why are the monsters are trying to destroy this world, in there literal first place of destroying a perfectly good city like this!?

Grim : Because, Sonic...The Water beasts or the so-callef God of Destruction, was filled rage, hatred, and despair. It's because the leader of his kin had been killing the innocence.

*Instant Transmission*

Sonic : Huh? Who's there?

[Dark Samus Appears - Kenji Yamamoto]

Amy : Oh my God! It's the Grim Reaper!

Sonic : Tails who is that?

Tails : Oh no! I forgot, it's the Grim Reaper of Mobius, Grim the Hedgehog!

Sonic : Grim the Hedgehog?

Knuckles : Tails, are you something clear that...there is another God that is a Grim Reaper observing Mobius?

Sonic : Tails, how can we forget about another God that Chaos isn't the only one that is one?

Tails : Well, juding by the looks of it. Grim is the Death God of our world and he was originally your ancestor. You two are not destined to meet each other.

Sonic : What?

Grim : I knew that all of those have died in the role of this incident. I never thought it could happen to Gamma, Tikal, the Chao, and the rest of the mobians that died. Tikal was just a careful girl living inside the master emerald with her heart and soul. She was the one who can really stop chaos that combines her power. In fact, I was that I was the one who ordered Tikal not to kill Chaos, but had them imprisoned together within the emerald along with their souls.

Sonic : You ordered Tikal to seal away Chaos within the Master Emerald?

Knuckles : So that's why Eggman freed them both. So you've been watching us all along, it was only you who set up everything in Mobius! But why on earth did you let Chaos kill my ancestors?

Grim : To explain this from the truth, it's revealed that he was one of the sinners who made Chaos to destroy the world in Mobius's past just to bring dominace over mobians. The leader of the clan, Pachacamac, was such a greedy fool to think that the powers of the emeralds would be his to take, but the emeralds belong to a race of being that are related to Chaos, the ancients were the ones that brought these emeralds to your world, Sonic. The Mobians of Influence has kept truth hidden from the other mobians and the public eye.

Knuckles : So this means my ancestors had been puppets on a string the entire time. The leader of my clan was stubborn and too greedy for power. Only an Echidna not too greedy power, greed is a deadly sin.

Grim : Sonic. Heed my words. As you can see, the ancients' enemy The End is about to free from it's imprisonment, but there is one solution that needs all orders in Real World to be solved. In six years, find the charlatan that the one they call him Shinigami and protect my sworn duty as God of Death itself.

Sonic : The ancients? The End? Who are the ancients and how did you know they are related to Chaos? And what are you talking about?

Grim : (Snickers) Allow me to show you the true face of a reaper and I demand that you will have respects to the Grim Reaper of Mobius, a Death God that serves the planet of Mobius.(unhoods himself)

Sonic : Huh?

Tails : Wha-!?

Knuckles : No! It can't be!

Amy: You again?

Sonic : Grim, your body is...the one that I raced with before on the miracle planet! You have my arch-rival's body. No, please...You can't be someone who you are! (The reflection Metal Sonic's face is shown on Sonic's eye) NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

*flashes forward*

"Six years later..."

"Hang Castle Zone..."

[Hang Castle (Inverted ver) - Tomoya Ohtani]

Egg Pawn A : It's gonna take more than this clean this place up, I can't believe that the idiots have been smashing places and breaking since they stopped Metal Sonic and convicted for the rebellious crimes against humanity and machines. They got him in the system, and I believe that the evil forces were a diversion.

Egg Pawn B : Well, yeah! That's what my ex-wife told me about that, evil forces means evil villains tryint to take over the world and not destroy, but I discovered when this person name Emine was about to destroy the world, he was turned into a heartles when this Shotaro Dokeshi kid discovered that an entity named Demon Vibe is behind his actions. The men of Shinra's influence had the nerves to keep it all a secret.

Egg Pawn A : You rely on that, I do not like the foul smell of the heartless, they appear from the shadows and they are the ones that wrecked havoc on the planet. Any subjects?

Egg Pawn B : Couldn't agree. Anyway, Lord Grim should be arriving soon. I heard that this Shinra Kusakabe guy is alive and he kinda looks like this. (Shows a photo of the Devil Chaos Chao) They say that he was resurrected in this form after his body destroyed by the Time Eater years ago. Better go check on this Maka Kid. She's should done doing her best studies and training.

Egg Pawn A : Agree.

Egg Pawn C : Guys! Guys! Seto has returned anfnbrought someone to the vicinity of this fortress! We need to report ourselves to Lord Grim's throne room!

(scene changes to the throne room)

Ashley : (wakes up, moaning) Man, this hangover..what in the world is this place? I'm not in the mood for Halloween.

Kimial Diehl : Is it just me or does this world kinds look actual bogus to me? I mean how great was it for us to be at inside of a giant castle.

Seto : Oh you're finally awake. Welcome's to master palace. Designed by the world's greatest scientist, for machine, visitors, and presidents, built with the latest defenses with our strong and capable technology. Plus, no mabuki that are the weapons their selves.

Ashley : So this is where your actually come from. This is where the Grim Reaper resides at? I bet it was here when rebellious Metal Sonic had a headstart and invaded the place. So the robots are really...

Seto : Yes, you are correct. They are master's servants and work for me, a human girl who called both Deathless and Needless together at the same time.

Ashley : Then what other choice did you have for something? You wield a sword? You work for your "master" and you have someone to accompany with?

Kimial Diehl : Don't mind anything something we would like to gather something to eat right now. You gotta anything something to treat.

Seto : Oh yes, we just got something good. *Snaps fingers* Bring out the hot chocolate*

*DOOR BANGING*

Chef Pawn : Here you are, girls, cups of piping hot chocolate coming right up! (Gives cups of hot chocolate to the girls) and of, I have added marshmallows with in it.

Seto : Thank you.

Kimial Diehl : Well, for a girl that works at the castle, these machines were programmed to the reaper?

Seto : Yes, and they have restored to work with master to keep all forced safe and sound. Egg Pawns that works at this facility. I don't know why would the blue robot doppelganger would invade this facility...to create of machines that wanted our servants to turn into slaves for dirty work. Look at the newspaper. Take a look for yourself.

(NEWSPAPER : REBELLIOUS RIVAL FROM SONIC CD HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE!)

Kimial Diehl : "Rebellious Rival from Sonic CD Has Been. Brought to Justice"?

Ashley : Metal Sonic, the blue robotic doppelganger of the original, was found guilty on all charges of crimes related to the Newtrogic High Zone incident nine years ago.

Seto : Yes, he was the same robot that got everyone involved in his plans of becoming the ultimate overlord when starts stealing data from others such living things, lifeforms, and Black Arms data.

Ashley : Black Arms. So that is so like 50 years ago.

Kimial Diehl : That hardly ring a bell, the Black Arms told that they were coming back to Sonic's world for destruction since the Space Colony ARK incident was just...

Seto : A stage...the Space Colony ARK incident was just a stage that triggered the Black Arms for their return. The invasion of these space creatures will attack Sonic's world by the year 2005.

Kimial Diehl : That'll have to wait.

Ashley : But still...we haven't gotten interest in finding Maka Albarn... she's at this place, am I correct.

Seto : Absolutely. She's a middle school student, so her and that Soul Evans are middle school kids, they were under Shinra Kusakabe's influence directly that made her the hero of the story.

Ashley : What stories do you often to do?

Seto : Trust me. 1000 years before Maka Albarn started her life as a hero, the boy named Shinra Kusakabe and his people were one of the Ohkuboverse's first heroes. They lost the Soul Eater universe when the vicious Time Eater destroyed it in half after they were annihilated in the hands of that entity.

Ashley : They were all fallen ones and were resurrected to different universes and Real World AU. Shinra Kusakabe resurrected as the Dark-type of a Chaos Chao resembling his appearance as the devil who created Soul Eater.

Kimial Diehl : And I suggested that the hope he found was light itself, and then was scolded by the Time Eater when he established the World Heroes Force organization.

Seto : The DWMA's true predecessors, from an organization of heroes to an organization of a giant school. And let's not forget, the school itself was not protecting public order, but is also created for the monopolization of political power.

Kimial Diehl : You gotta speak up, I am a girl raised at the northeast parts of the United States, but I usually come to Japan and had the name Kimiko, Kimiko Kasugatani. It's a long story short, but I eventually shed that name for Kimial Diehl, is what I am now. But I don't if we able to meet Shinra Kusakabe

*Door bell ringing rhythmically*

Seto : And that would be Sega's finest. That's great news to hear. You should becoming a screen writers for the games.

*Door opens*

Seto : So, you finally come out of and finished your studies, did you brushed your teeth like I always asked?

Maka Albarn : You tell me. I always what you asked, ma'am.

Ashley : No way, that's Maka Albarn? She's only just a kid.

Kimial Diehl : This is her, who does she look like someone familiar. I be it's the one that looks alike that cat girl who brough lewdness into Soul World, maybe that's where she get that hairstyle from...Wait a second.

(sounds of Maka beating up someone as we flashes back to 2003, where Maka was beating up something with a bat, which appears to be a Neoshadow)

Neoshadow : (gags)

(flashes back to Kimial)

Kimial Diehl : Okay...far choice. Maybe she was that kind of hero who saved someone in her life.

Maka Albarn : You are Kimial Diehl, correct?

Kimial Diehl : That's right. I am Kimial Diehl, you were the girl that was part of your story, Soul Eater's story?

Maka Albarn : I am no hero, and I have no story. I don't know why Soul Eater's story revolves around a bunch three middle school students like Ned's Declassified.

Kimial Diehl : Yeah, thirteen year olds like Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.

Maka Albarn : Yeah, I was wondering something like that on TV. If I was the hero of the my story, you in reality, you gotta sometime have the words of no respect, like i'd give a darn, my life way far superior. Hope that the reaper brought me here, who has something to do with Chaos.

Ashley : That's the name of the God of Destruction, ain't it?

Red The Demon : I bet he's creature who killed all those mobians and of course the people of Station Square six years ago. 1998 was the year that we'll never forget.

Ashley : Okay, we'll talk to Grim Reaper fella that is going to be here any minute now.

Grim : I'm right here.

(Grim appears teleporting)

[Obel Dallgun - Hideaki Kobayashi]

Butler Pawn : Master Grim. You have arrived. How was your trip in Pumpkin Hill and Sky Rail Zone.

Seto : Oi, Master, you have returned!

Butler Pawn : Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like you to meet our master, Grim the Hedehog, Grim Reaper of Mobius.

"Grim Reaper : Death God of Mobius"

Butler Pawn : Be all good dears and listen to our master's speech.

Grim : Thank you, sir.

Butler Pawn : Your indeed welcome.

Seto : Girls, I'd like you meet the strongest Death God of all, Grim the Hedgehog. Once a hedgehog in Mobius' past, chosen by the Gods to give him the powers of Grim Reaper, and now orders a group of robots serving him and as well for me, I'm his apprentice.

Ashley : Hold up, are you saying that you are his apprentice?

Kimial Diehl : That's odd. I never say that you were his apprentice, serving under the directs of mainting public order in the Real World and Sonic's World, both of them.

Seto : True, and exactly what I told you, to do what is rightfully mine. I have Solva with me.

Solva : Glad to be with you, Seto. I'm a girl you always asked and I'm one tough super girl!

"Solva : Seto's Right-hand maiden"

Solva : No need to thank me, I always carry out missions and help out the pawns and knights to work around this facility.

Ashley : Okay...This is going to be a lot of storytell prove, no...but this is a speech.

Kimial Diehl : We're gonna take a break from this point.

Ashley : Okay. Cue to a Commercial Break!

(pans to a card that says "Commercial Break")

Solva : Wait, what are we even doing a commerical break?

Seto : You tell me...That's your idea of an excuse.

~ Scene 2 : The Typical Grim ~

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landymanbro · 1 year

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There ya have it folks. Those were the hottest female chicks in the Sonic universe. I hope you enjoyed it, happy Valentine's Day, and I'll see you later. HERE WE GO!

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