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seaside-lovers · 3 months

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i have to know if you have any Lore for your TFP s/i 👀👀👀 please share if you have anything! also KO and breakdown? such great taste i love that for you 🥺 they're my besties... (kittyandco)

yes I do ^^ My main Transformers S/I is named Overload.

In the Prime universe, Shockwave and I meet a pretty long time before the war, with me initially being an assistant, taking notes during experiments and helping him as needed. Later, I continue my studies in Cybertronian biology and become a partner in science to Shockwave rather instead of an assistant.

We end up courting awhile after I become his partner in science and shortly after that become Conjunx; it's rather straight-forward for us, especially Shockwave. (He is attracted to me and has romantic feelings, therefore, it is only logical for us to court one another and eventually become Conjunx if that attraction develops.)

I am specifically very interested in the fauna of both Cybertron and other planets, leading me to studying Earth as they have a wide variety of fauna. I pick up a nickname for Shockwave here ("Tiger"). Once the war begins, while I would rather stay neutral, I end up following Shockwave and becoming a Decepticon.

During the events of season 3, Shockwave returns to fetch me from Cybertron; I had been out exploring space at the time when Knock Out and the Vehicons found him. He returns with me and as we're fairly private about our relationship, I'm simply his "partner of science" to those who don't know us well. Though it becomes more apparent from our gentle affection that there happens to be chemistry between us (heh).

I'm also friends with the other Decepticons, Knock Out and Breakdown included! ^^ I'm also friends with their partner, Skysoul, who is a Maximal that transformers into a wolf. (Skysoul is an OC from... probably 2011? If I ever get around to adding Knock Out and Breakdown as F/Os she will likely become an S/I. I haven't watched Beast Wars yet so I'm not super familiar with how Maximals work but baby me thought wolves and Transformers were cool so why not combine them?)

Uhhh what else... after the events of the movie, we become reclusive on Cybertron and move into one of Shockwave's secret laboratories. Eventually, after seeing how Knock Out, Breakdown, and Skysoul have been accepted as Autobots, we begin a polite but tense relationship with the Autobots, no longer being Decepticons but neutral instead.

In my own headcanon for the Prime universe, sometimes Conjunx are chosen to raise a Cybertronian as their own, and they will be called to the Well of Allsparks where their new "child" will be created. Usually the child will happen to match their caregivers as well; in our case, we are given Blastoff. I don't have a reference for her yet but she's slightly taller than Shockwave and has some sort of plane alt-mode. Also, she ends up with a pretty strong crush on Smokescreen (and later in a relationship with both him and Soundwave once Soundwave is released/they get to know him better.)

^ that is what I look like in TFP universe; my alt-mode is a locomotive. (Art by CyberneticSlasher on Toyhouse)

#ask response #thank you for the ask!#sorry this was so long I have. a decent amount of lore thought out haha #long post #self ship #f/o #self insert talk

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revchainsaw · 3 years

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Bumblebee (2018)

Good Evening worshippers, and welcome! Today the Cult of Cult goes a little more mainstream than usual. It's been a while since i've tackled a big Hollywood superhero film. But I do believe that these sorts of films will be remembered fondly my small groups of people in the future, especially the smaller films that are being overshadowed by the big bad MCU, films like 2018s Bumblebee.

The Messsage

Bumblebee was originally released as a prequel to the Transformers franchise that had started all the way back in 2007. However, reboots had really hit the market as a way to breath new life into struggling franchises, and the Transformers series had already gone to just about every absurd extreme you could imagine. No changes were made to the movie as it was released, but with it's more childish and heartfelt tone, and a new aesthetic that was softer, smoother, and all around just generally more pleasing to the eye, I think it was a wise choice to rebrand Bumblebee as a new beginning.

Our story is of two friends from two very different worlds and how they came together. Our first character is Bumblebee, then known as B- number sign/it doesn't really matter. Not yet Bumblebee is a soldier set with securing a safe location for the Autobots to regroup and make their home as they suffer a pretty serious defeat on cybertron at the hands of the tyrannical Decepticons. Optimus Prime, here again voiced by Peter Cullen and looking so much more like himself, assigns this task to Bumblebee promising him that they will meet him there when the time comes. Then Optimus fucks off for the rest of the run time making way for our little hero.

Bumblebee lands on Earth and is immediately set upon by John Cena and his military goon squad. It probably would have been wise for Bumblebee to avoid John Cena but in his defense, he couldn't see him. Hardy har har. In his attempt to flee his voice box is damaged, he seeks sanctuary by taking the form of a run down little VW bug, and suffers from amnesia.

Then we have Charlie. Charlie is not like other girls. She likes cars, all the retro music, which wasn't retro when the movie takes place, so I'm supposed to just think she's a rocker but it kinda seems like she'll listen to just about anything. I think in 2018 liking Motorhead and The Smiths (who are used ad nauseum in this movie) is perfectly common, but I feel like in the 80s that was a much different and much older attitude to take.

Anyway Charlie's poor family lives in a super fucking nice house and are poor because the dialogue keeps insisting they are so it must be true despite all the shit they have that actually poor people would sell blood and teeth to attain, but hell, this is Hollywood and Hollywood poor is like regular people upper middle class. Charlies family is so poor that instead of giving her a one time graduation/birthday present to buy a part for a car she already has, they just give her a moped, She also spends all her time at a pull apart where the manager (who might be her uncle that wasn't super clear) is willing to just give her a Volkswagen so I don't understand why she didn't already have the project car up and running. Whatever, it's a plot contrivance. All you need to know is that Charlie is tenacious and hard around the edges cuz her dad is dead and she's not yet mature enough to process that in a healthy way. Maybe her character arch will teach her to let others in, we'll have to find out.

There's also a wacky nerd named Memo, and some bad guys, and John Cena. They are all also pretty archetypal and contrived and don't really do anything of note that isn't just filling a beat that this kind of movie needs to walk. Charlie starts Bumblebee up, discovers he's a robot and the two begin to bond. Charlie learns to make a friend, and bumblebee is learning about himself. They get into hijinks and get revenge on a bully girl who makes Regina George look like a saint, she pretty much only picks on Charlie exclusively for having a dead dad.

The moment Bumblebee is woken back up, some technology goof em up that both he and Charlie are unaware of brings two Decepticon baddies into the picture. I don't remember their names, but since I love The Venture Brothers let's say they can be "Jet Boy and Jet Girl". Jet Boy and Jet Girl are sometimes cars, sometimes various flying military vehicles, and they make friends with the deep state and plan to get all the adrenochrome from all the orphans, or just to go find Bumblebee and beat his ass good cuz their bad guys. Let me tell y'all though, Jet Boy and Jet Girl are so bad that they don't even care that the government is listening when they reveal that they are planning on bringing a Decepticon Invasion and after they rough up Bumblebee real good they are going to destroy all life on this planet. So they start by killing a military scientist.

John Cena is after Bumblebee and he's homies with Jet Boy and Jet Girl until the military scientist butt dials him and he hears the evil plan. John Cena goes from heel to face and helps Bumblebee and Charlie save the day. It's a giant CG clusterfuck climax a la any superhero film in the last 10 years and I basically stopped watching. BumbleBee pulls a Hellraiser on Jet Boy, and then he hits Jet Girl with a freaking boat. Charlie uses her diving skills do dive down and save him, but he's a Giant Robot and he was okay and it was literally pointless for her to to except as a way to show that her character has completed her arch by doing the thing that was representative of her connection with her lost father.

Bumblebee turns into the Camaro from the first movie, meets up with Optimus prime, and the stage is set for this prequel to squeeze more prequels out. So it wasn't very creative, but was it bad? Let's find out.

Please Stand to receive the Benediction.

Best Aspect: Transform the Franchise

Bumblebee was directed by Travis Knight of Laika fame and it shows. This movie marks a stylistic change in the transformers franchise, as in it doesn't look like utter dog shit, but it also represents in many ways a tonal shift. It does hold on to a lot of gross sleaze that has unfortunately been forcibly jammed into the DNA of the franchise but it also attempts to be a more heartfelt entry. The characters of Bumblebee might all be sort of a waste of time, but at least they are doing something with emotions, even if the emotions of the characters are only explored as deeply as a children's cartoon I'm glad they are there. In the previous installments the only thing the characters did between running from action piece to seizure inducing action piece was drool over underage girls like a bunch of chimpanzees at the facility where they test experimental E.D. meds. It was nice to see that at least somewhat tampered. This transformers movie feels more like it's for kids and young teenagers, and strangely that more friendly tone makes for a much less juvenile product.

Worst Aspect: Remember I Love the 80s from the 2000s

I hope you really like Stranger Things. I do, but because Stranger Things was so successful it' s going to be everywhere. Not true Stranger Things just 80s nostalgia porn. This 80s nostalgia is going to be forced on you whether you like it or not, and it's not going to be fun. It's gonna be in your shows, in your music, in your Sunday like Bacon in 2010. It's that or Marvel Franchise Brand Whedonisms. Bumblebee is that brave movie that says, "Why not both?" It would seem fitting that a property as quintessentially 80s as Transformers should feel completely comfortable doing a period piece set in the 80's but it's so fucking half hearted it's depressing. It wasn't done to appreciate the roots of the IP, it was done to cash in on a trend and it feels it. All they did was throw up a date and insufferably force an 80s soundtrack down your throat as if that was enough to convince you that this movie needed to be set during this time. Other than that you could have told me this film was set in 2007 and I couldn't tell you any different.

Best Character: Charlie's an Angel

I liked Charlie. Sure her Arc is predictable, her taste is dumb, and she isn't exactly a master of her own destiny to any degree. But at least she is a woman in a transformers movie who's got something going on. Sure she's defined entirely by grief, but that sure is better than pretending that being able to work on cars is a feminist character trait instead of a weird fetish thing. They certainly do that thing with Charlie, but at least it's not the only thing they throw at the wall. Bumblebee is by no means out of the woods in this department, but it garners a lot of goodwill for trying. Like a racist uncle who just started his journey out of ignorance, but hasn't yet realized he has to stop asking mortifying questions to the barista at Starbucks. Okay, maybe that's an extreme metaphor. I'm saying that perhaps Charlie is not a great character but she's a great character for a Transfomers movie.

Worst Character: It's JOOOOHHHNNNN CEEEENA!!!!

Why is John Cena in this movie? I don't hate the guy, but his character seems pointless. You could remove him from the movie completely and replace him with any one of the random military goons at any point and it changes nothing. What was with that dumb salute at the end? It seems like they put him in this movie in post and it was just to pump up cast list. I wish he was given anything to work with. I can't remember his characters name, and it's not like John Cena did a bad job, I was just annoyed every time they kept giving him hero shots. I felt like I was watching a trailer for a different movie.

Best Actor: Optimal Primo!

Every time Peter Cullen speaks I want to listen. There's a reason they haven't had Chris Pratt or somebody with a bigger name come in and take over the role at this point. He's why the audience keep coming back. Peter Cullen IS Optimus Prime, and there's no changing that. He also wins twice. He's the best actor in the movie AND he's barely in the movie. Good call Peter.

Worst Actor: Mean Girls 2, Meaner and Girlier

I don't want to be cruel so I'm not going to go into to much detail, but there's an actress in this film who's performance is so mustache twirlingly evil and stupid that it ruined my suspension of disbelief when i knew going in that i was about to endure a 2 hour toy commercial about robots that turn into cars. Beldar Conehead was a more convincing human being than Tina.

Best Effect: Goo Be Gone

I really appreciated when the bad guys shot the government nerd into a blast of snot. That was pretty fun for me. Best part of the movie hands down.

Worst Effect: Live Action?

Bumblebee is a cartoon. It's a great looking cartoon but it doesn't sell itself that way. If we were doing a Roger Rabbit thing I'd have no gripes. However, I think CG is just getting worse. I'm criticizing this and it's still lightyears better than the previous entry's on the franchise. No transformation or fight sequence in Bumble Bee had me straining to make sense of what I was looking at. I think it was a great idea to start using some basic shapes and outlines to these characters, and return somewhat to their 80s designs. But at certain points, especially when there were no humans in the shot, i was pretty convinced I was watching Clone Wars. There may not be anyway around this, as the Transformers concept might not be able to be pulled off in any more effective manner. It's a minor gripe, but I just didn't think it looked like anything other than a very expensive cartoon, and in this franchise that's a compliment, because it least it looked like SOMETHING!

Best Scene: Space Opera

I am not a Transformers fan. I missed the boat on the cartoon as a kid. I would sometimes catch it at friends houses but I was more into Batman, Star Wars, and Ninja Turtles. By the time I came onto the scene the world had moved on to Beast Wars. I did one day arbitrarily decide that my favorite Transformer was Sound Wave. He looked great in this. I am a big fan of the return to form with a lot of the character designs in this. They really did keep the things that worked from the other adaptations, and they are steadily removing the things that didn't. For this reason, the scenes on Cybertron, particularly the battle with Soundwave (i prefer for personal reasons) looked great and were exciting to watch. I remember thinking Cybertron used to look like a Marilyn Manson shot a music video from inside to dumpster. This is so much better.

Worst Scene: Blocking the Box

There's a scene in Bumblebee where Charlie's family decides the best way to save their daughter was to cause a pile up of vehicles in an intersection, and it's pure contrived writing that saved any character in that sequence from being killed in a horrific traffic accident. It was stupid, played for laughs, and it wasn't exciting as much as it was anxiety inducing. I also thought that there was no reason the covert military group covering up extraterrestrial life wouldn't just disappear this family of fucking morons in their little piece of shit car. The logic of the scene was just so childish like, "No they won't hit me, I'm a good person."

Summary

Bumblebee may be remembered fondly in a decade. I think especially if the Transformers franchise were to end here. It didn't get the publicity of the other films, and that really is a shame. For my money, this was the best Transformers movie so far. I was very tempted to give Bumblebee a C, it does just enough to right what was wrong from the other movies to make me appreciate all that work. This movie has heart, and if you are at all into Transformers then l think you should see it. It's still pretty stupid, and pretty basic. It's not offering anything new to the genre, and it feels like a commercial for more movies. I really wish we could just get movies that want to tell a story. I thought it over and decided that it wasn't fair not to grade Bumblebee on it's own merits. Bumblebee is substantially better than the films that preceded it, but that's not saying a lot, when the films that preceded it are joyless exercises in self abuse.

Overall Grade: D

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matrixbearer · 7 years

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Bayverse!anon again I'm a bit disappointed in both fandom and film makers that the tragedies shown in the movies are not being discussed more in depth. I have nobody who cares enough about the franchise to discuss anything except the "explosions", but that's why I appreciate your insight. There was something about the movies that left me with a weird feeling. You put it into words when you explained that the Transformers are facing extinction. Having seen TLK recently, I noticed that P ½

P 2/2 Optimus and Megatron’s actions can be seen from different perspectives. No doubt Optimus is the better person of the two. However, if I was a Transformer there is a chance I could side with Megatron especially after AoE. During the last fight in against Quintessa one of my thoughts was: if I was a Transformer desperate and angry enough I would probably let her? This is what makes the theme of extinction so interesting. It has no solution. And at the end of the film nobody is really fine.

Hm, I’ve heard similar arguments for Megatron, including Tyran Megatron. However, I find it is an error in judgment for a variety of reasons beyond the “Well, Megatron is the worst.”

Cool motive, still genocide—

Megatron never wants to rebuild Cybertron. Well, he never wants to rebuild Cybertron. He always wants to rebuild it in his image; it is a Biblical theme of of some divine entity exerting influence over another and reforming them to mirror their own.

The other issue the same as with Sentinel and Quintessa: they want to rebuild Cybertron, which they will rule as they see fit, at the sacrifice of another plane (see: Earth). Many Autobots would love to have their world back, but this is a faction that has almost the same philosophical loyalty to Optimus as the Decepticons (when it was convenient for them or the writers) had with Megatron. In the end it is about the motives: selflessness vs. selfishness.

Optimus’ desire for Cybertron is legitimately about the continuation of his people. This is his homeworld. He fought in the tribal wars and he helped unite them. He helped to build the Empire as it was in its last age, arguably one of its golden age if not for the pesky problem of energon resources steadily beginning to run low—think of our climate change and how it started small, scientists were warning us, and now it is sneaking up at us at a rapid pace. But back to what I was saying about how Optimus genuinely loves Cybertron. He doesn’t love himself. He doesn’t love the power. He doesn’t see Cybertron OR its people as a tool for himself, he sees himself as a tool for Cybertron and its people.

Before Megatron’s faulty motives is explained in the context of his back story and past before, I must clarify one important fact about Tyran Cybertron:

Cybertron had two real divisions in their society: civilian and military.

This shaped everything. From the macro level to the micro. Megatron was the leader of the military, and Optimus was the leader of the civilians.

Cybertronian civilians have taken a vow to give up their violent ways. Referring a previous anon, it was explained how the Cybertronians are naturally violent. As a test of their free will many Cybertronians took that vow as a way of making amends for the tribal wars that came to follow. Think of it like this: it was almost like half the population took a vow of silence. But, instead of silence, it was to abstain from violence. Another fictional analogy would be to refer to the history of Star Trek’s Vulcans, who also had a history of extensive conflict until they were led to peace through a vow of logic. Monk’s (may) give up their speech, Vulcan’s get rid of their emotions, and Cybertronians gave up violence. It was a societal addiction and they went all or nothing. So, military went all out and the civilians had none of it.

This distance from their violent past was crucial to the civilians, and one reason why Optimus was chosen to be their leader beyond reasons of “Oh, he’s a Prime.” It is because he was the first leader to show any ability to be peaceful; he gave a speech on a battlefield that swayed the sparks of many, and Ironhide was the first to preferably lay down his sword. The laying down of sword for the civilians was everything. They would struggle like any addict, and one way they managed it was clearly defining the differences between those in the military and those not.

As leader of the military, Megatron’s job was to led those will indulgent in violence to use that in a way that protected Cybertron and freed the civilians to… well, more civil pursuits.

Thus, Optimus became Prime and Megatron became the “High Lord Protector.” However, originally he was to solely be referred to as the “Protector.” But notice that in his official title “High Lord” is added on. Why? Was that already there? No, it was there at Megatron’s behest. He wanted to still Lord over people.

When the energon famine really began to be a clear and present danger he argued with Optimus, the civilian leader, that the resources should be rationed and diverted predominantly to the more “stronger” Cybertronians and the weak should be left to fend for themselves. Notably this is a primal way of thinking, and isn’t without some basic evolutionary logic. However, as Optimus ascertained they are not wild animals. They are sentient—the strong should PROTECT the weak. Although it could be said Megatron wanted to keep the resources for the “most likely to survive” had some logic, it loses that rationality when put into the context that Megatron’s motives were that the strongest Cybertronian’s were the military—which was directly under his control. On the other hand, the civilians (Optimus’ part) was considered the weaker. This would leave Megatron with total control of Cyberton, and Optimus would have no legitimate influence to help curb Megatron’s worst qualities—qualities that Sentinel constantly criticized.

With the leaders unable to come to a settlement the struggle began as a cold conflict working behind the scenes. As it could be surmised, it was Megatron and his supporters who had more subversive means of getting their way while the leaders were officially in a morally grey stalemate. Officially their factions were given equal share of the resources and the leader would divide the resources among their faction as they saw fit. Megatron the strongest, Optimus everyone.

At that time Megatron claimed to agree with Optimus on one thing goal in the meantime: finding the AllSpark. It is important to note that before becoming Prime, Optimus had previously been an archeologist. Now, the military has no archeologists, and Optimus was the senior most archeologist on Cybertron. So, according to the laws of the land the hunt for the AllSpark fell directly under Optimus’ purview, not Megatron’s or his military. This was salt to rub in that Megatron was just a violent soldier, the fiercest and more volatile of them all. In the military this gave him respect, but the civilians did not respect that.

Respect was something Megatron struggled with, and it was one of his emotional hot buttons. The two (spark brothers) had been groomed and mentored by Sentinel—he was something of a father to them. The two absolutely adored him. Sentinel loved Optimus, even if he was frustrated with Optimus’ absolutism about sticking to his personal virtues. Optimus was perfect, could really do no wrong, and Megatron was a failure in comparison because he was such a brute. At least, that is how Megatron saw Sentinel’s treatment of them and honestly he wasn’t far off. Sentinel was cruel to both, though in different ways. Most of the time he was groomed into a sense of security and trust in loyalty, given positive feedback if he pleased Sentinel. His mentor would manipulate him in the most seditious of ways. If Optimus went against his wishes.Sentinel was passive-aggressive of just nasty, making Optimus feel like he wasn’t living up to him—he was a disappointment. But Megatron? He got smacked around, physically. He was always scolded and treated like a rabid dog that failed. In the end, both wanted Sentinel’s approval.

Now, the relationship between Sentinel and the dyadic leaders as both a singular unit and individuals is important. It shapes Megatron’s motives to find the AllSpark before Optimus. The famine began to ramp up and the quest for the AllSpark began. As mentioned earlier this quest would be Optimus’ job, his responsibility, because he was the civilian leader & a highly respected archeologist. So when the AllSpark would be found… who would get all the credit and the glory? Let it not be forgotten that they wait to fight over the I had already begun before it was even found. Megatron had to get to it first if he was going to become the more powerful of the two, have his military control Cybertron. Yes he cared about Optimus or even Sentinel, but it was not sufficient to stop him from undermining Optimus’ powers. At that time he was torn between completely overthrowing his brother or just asserting dominance with his military.

So, the race to find the AllSpark was off. This was when Megatron found the Fallen’s tomb. Why did he find the tomb? Because he was searching for the AllSpark when according to Cybertronian laws he wasn’t supposed to. The Fallen possessed him, brought out the already destructive traits to the surface and had them completely take over. In the end it was the Autobots who found the AllSpark and the war began.

Megatron has no track record of wanting to rebuild Cybertron for altruistic reasons. His motives were selfish, malicious, and ultimately brought ruin to their world. In TLK Lennox asks Megatron what he wants and Megatron’s answer is, “To go home.”

This sounds sincere, but it isn’t. If it was he would have done what was written in the DOTM’s book ending and that was a call for truce. In the DOTM’s book it ends not with Megatron’s death, instead it is the two reuniting because Megatron realizes that the only way for Cybertron to be rebuilt is if he works WITH Optimus. In TLK he is fighting against Optimus.

Of course, that is when Quintessa comes into play. When Quintessa slaps Optimus she leaves a scarlet mark; the mark of her ownership. Whatever powers are in it have the capacity to begin take control. The mark on Megatron’s face shows exactly who he belongs to, and the best plausibility is that he is Quintessa’s puppet. Her strings with Megatron were probably much the same as with Optimus: the promise of reviving Cybertron.

It is unlike that Quintessa’s revival of Cybertron would have been good for the surviving Transformers.

Note: I will shortly be writing up a headcanon to explain the state of Cybertron as presented in the movie and it will elaborate on what is to follow in this answer.

Cybertronians fear enslavement. They fear it. Yes, we do too. But not all of us have experienced a recent memory of enslavement. Cybertronians do. They also know what it is like to be led by someone that ultimately destroys everything they care about. Many Decepticons didn’t even think far enough about why they were obeying Megatron. They did it out of loyalty or because they get to blow shit up. Autobots, for all their roughhousing and their inclination to interact as we would perceive as violent, they do want peace. They don’t want to have the kind of war Megatron and his Decepticons want. They know they are the last of their kind. They want to sun on the beaches of Cuba and play some volley ball. They are TIRED. Right now all they have is Earth or a dead & rotten planet. Most Cybertronians are going to see a repeat of their experiences: Megatron leading them to domination or the Autobots trying to protect what they care about. One is total destruction and one is just total preservation.

Ultimately, I do not believe most Cybertronians would help Quintessa and/or Megatron revive Cybertron unless they are already a follower of Megatron and inclined to excessive violence for the sake of it. They will see that Optimus and Megatron are on opposing sides and unless they are already a Decepticon… they are going to side with who they trust to not be a planet killer. These are the last survivors—they are experienced, they know better. They know that Megatron’s word can never be taken at face value.

And ultimately, those surviving Transformers who are not already on Megatron’s side are the ones who have lived long enough to value the sanctity of sentient life more than they already did before the war, and that’s saying a lot because Optimus wasn’t the only one advocating for the preservation of sentient beings. This particular virtue isn’t even an ethical one for Cybertronian, but a moral one with practical applications. The original Primes had the law that they could not use the sun of a solar system that had any planets with life on it. The Cybertronians find it aborhant to throw away like that, which puts their so-called violent nature into perspective by illustrating that they, by large, had a clear line on the issue of sacrificing one group of sentient beings for the benefit of another—even their own. Transformers just don’t respect any action calling for the compromise of their most highly valued ideals if committed at the expense of others. They like seeing themselves of guardians of younger alien species.

As you can see I have a lot to say on the matter of justifications of Megatron’s intentions to revive Cybertron. It is a subject that has come up in a few continuities, Tyran and Aligned being chief among them.

In the end I see no way to justify Megatron’s actions that he may disguise as altruism until it is clearly narrated that he has had a redemptive moment of self-insight. i.e. Him at the end of TFP Season 2 and him at the end of Predacon’s Rising.

Trust no bucket until it the truck says so.

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