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starcurtain · 3 months

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I think the most amazing thing about Alhaitham's ironic question "How has realizing your ideals gone for you?" is that yes, on the surface, it pierced through the heart of Kaveh's feelings at the time and forced him to reflect on whether he still had enough belief to keep going, but--BUT--

This is also Alhaitham subtly asking: "Was your life better without me?"

Kaveh left their friendship because of his ideals.

Kaveh's attempts to realize his beliefs began in earnest during his argument with Alhaitham, who challenged him back then by suggesting that Kaveh didn't honestly believe in his ideals and was just pursuing them out of guilt and a desire to punish himself for his father's death.

Kaveh's attempt to "realize his ideals," therefore, spans the exact amount of time he and Alhaitham have been separated. When Alhaitham asks about Kaveh's attempts, he's asking very specifically about the course Kaveh's life took when he was no longer in it.

How did it go for you? Were you happier? Was it worth it?

I truly believe that Kaveh will be able resolve his conflict with Alhaitham--and come to understand Alhaitham's actual feelings--when he realizes that, in that exact moment, he should have turned the question around:

How did realizing your ideals go for you, Alhaitham?

Was your life better off without me?

No.

#genshin impact #alhaitham #kaveh #haikaveh #kavetham #Kaveh was so worried about whether he should keep his own ideals #that he never even noticed how much Alhaitham's changed #Alhaitham's line in Parade of Providence #about how being correct isn't the same as being right #was sooo telling #it's not about compromising your beliefs #but about learning how to pursue them without compromising yourself #both of them had to feel the sting of pursuing their own beliefs too far #to realize that you need balance #Kaveh's pursuit of ideals that cost him everything was Alcazarzaray #but Alhaitham's pursuit of ideals was the fight that lost him Kaveh #Sumeru was saved because Alhaitham learned his lesson about egoism #and Alhaitham was able to save Kaveh in turn #it's so fucking clean my god this writing #Hoyo cooked so hard with this ship not even Gordon Ramsey can complain

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harmonysanreads · 2 months

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I am very normal.

#THIS IS ACTUALLY OFFICIAL OH MY GOD AAAAA #hoyo always cooks so well #'ohhh you're already knee deep in aventurine brainrot? here! have this art of him waking up like a prince!'#cough... am i seeing thing or are those....abs...?#aventurine #aventurine hsr #hsr aventurine #hsr #honkai star rail #harmony simps

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chronicyappper · 5 months

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Wriothesley being the only person (aside from traveler) who Neuvillette had a personal relationship with is insane. Wriothesley being comfortable around Neuvillette and finding him easy to talk to is insane. Wriothesley understanding Neuvillette's feelings despite not knowing his origin and being able to console him is INSANE. Wriolette is insane.

#they're canon #hoyo cooked with this one #wriolette #neuvithesley #neuvillette #wriothesley

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supertyphoon-kai · 6 months

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Ohhhh so the resolution of the serial disappearances case was an important turning point for Neuvillette's character because before, he lacked the understanding of why humans would sacrifice themselves for another.

Through this, he learned the meaning of sacrifice.

So when the time came where he learned the truth of Furina and Focalors' sacrifice, how could he not enact the justice they fought for? For 500 long years?

#genshin impact #genshin #genshin spoilers #genshin impact spoilers #Neuvillette #navia #furina #focalors #hoyo cooked with all the characters' stories for the archon quest istg #every part of the story is done with intent and i love it

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flumpermergen · 3 months

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Listen… comparing hoyoverse characters can be a bit annoying but sometimes it’s just too un-fucking-canny to NOT point out

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caluupin · 10 months

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Constellations 🌌

#caluuart #genshin impact #genshin #art #haikaveh #kavetham #digital art #here goes nothing-#this is what ive been cooking for the past 3 days i am actually nervous to post this #im kind of proud of the sky i drew #kinda.#anw fontaine tmr i am excited!! primos here i come #also lore! i will eat up so much lore thank you hoyo ✨#ok cya

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aha-chuu · 1 year

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So many Kavetham thoughts

I wanted to discuss Alhaitham and Kaveh’s canonical relationship now that we know all of Kaveh’s character stories and voicelines. I will not be going into event or quest leaks since I have not seen them, so rest assured this is just the information from Kaveh’s profile.

Short summary: Alhaitham is two years Kaveh’s junior, and Kaveh befriended him out of curiosty, since so many people had a low opinion of him. Kaveh himself described Alhaitham as his “best friend” at this time, and when they met it was when Kaveh had just started living on his own for the first time (an arrangement he very much disliked, thinking of home as a “cold and lonely” place). They end up working on a project together along with several other scholars, but all but them gradually drop off as they cannot keep up with Alhaitham and Kaveh’s overwhelming intellect.

Kaveh attempts to help his peers, stretching himself very thin and burning out as he takes up their workload so that they do not fall behind. It actually reminds me of Alhaitham’s story quest, where the scholar doing all the work behind the scenes is unappreciated and eventually hits a breaking point, taking his own life. Before Kaveh can get to such a point, Alhaitham confronts him:

“ Kaveh maintained that Alhaitham was too much of an egoist, that he could be much better welcomed amongst people if he would just care about helping out more often. Alhaitham for his part pointed out that Kaveh's impractical idealism was just a flight from reality, and that it would come to be a burden on his existence someday, and the source of Kaveh's altruism was naught but his inescapable sense of guilt. “

And this is the beginning of the end. Alhaitham uncovers the reality that Kaveh’s altruism is not born of his selflessness, but instead out of guilt for feeling that he cannot inconvenience others the way he encourages others to inconvenience him. It is a cutting and blunt remark from Alhaitham, one that Kaveh cannot cope with:

“ Kaveh felt cut to the quick by someone who was his best friend. Alhaitham had seen through the reality that he had never been able to face, causing him to feel reality's bite for the first time “

And some people have pointed to this as the reason their relationship fell apart, that Alhaitham’s words were simply too severe and he ignored how they would make Kaveh feel. While it is true that Alhaitham does bluntly hurt Kaveh's feelings here, it took two people to split them apart - Kaveh's response is:

" Kaveh steadfastly declares that he regretted making friends with this all-too-intelligent person. The two parted ways in a single stroke. Alhaitham would remove his name from that thesis, while Kaveh would rip his copy of the thesis apart in a fury — only to put it back together with deep regret. He sensed that he would not be able to change his friend, with the reverse also being true. "

The nail in the coffin wasn't Alhaitham forcing Kaveh to face the reality of his life, but instead that was the catalyst for Kaveh declaring that he regretted his and Alhaitham's friendship. Considering Kaveh is Alhaitham's only friend (or at least, the friend through which he met all his other friends), I can only imagine how that would have felt. And ofc Alhaitham is an exceedingly rational person, but he does have feelings.

I thought that in their current relationship, Alhaitham had let go of most of his anger and Kaveh was the one still caught up in the past. After all, Alhaitham often seems teasing in his jabs, where Kaveh sounds more genuine. While this does still seem true to an extent, Alhaitham's line "where were you when Sumeru needed you most?" feels worse now we know that Kaveh was the one to renounce their friendship. They both were "abandoned" in a sense by all the people closest to them, but while that made Alhaitham reserved and self-reflective it made Kaveh cling on to those around him to avoid looking inward at himself.

And Alhaitham removing his name from the thesis, reflective of a clean break. Kaveh, on the other hand, tears it to shreds - he's spiralling, angry and guilty, but he also can't face the truths that Alhaitham exposed to him. It's important, imo, that Kaveh then repairs the thesis. I take that as an implication that he wants to repair their relationship, he just does not know how to.

This can also be seen in Kaveh’s voiceline ‘About Alhaitham - It’s Complicated’:

“ Alhaitham helped me out a fair amount recently. If we were still as close as we were during our student days, then I'd be thanking him every chance I got. Now, though... I can't seem get a word of appreciation out of my mouth. Even if I could, I wouldn't want to give him the satisfaction. I guess you could say our relationship is something of a mixed bag these days? Honestly, with everything that's happened, it almost feels like the universe has been playing pranks on us... It's hard to make sense of it all... too much to process for one lifetime. I will say that it's not every day that you get to know someone like him — I just wish he could rein in some of the worst excesses of his personality. Okay, yeah, that's never gonna happen. “

I don’t think I can express how closely this links Alhaitham and Kaveh together. It’s not just old friends with differences of opinion; they quite literally make up parts of one another.

The reference to the ‘universe’ is intriguing - while Kaveh is a romanticist who would use this flowery sort of language, in Genshin fate is a thing that plays a huge role. And his confession that it’s too much for a single life time, on top of the fact that their research project was on King Deshret (of whom Kaveh and Alhaitham share qualities)... I am not saying there is a reincarnation situation, but but Genshin often does use characters to reflect their historical figures.

In Alhaitham’s character stories, it’s revealed he considers Kaveh a mirror:

“ Kaveh is a familiar face, similarly lacks familial attachments, and is the polar opposite of [Alhaitham] as a scholar — that is to say, an excellent mirror “

and now Kaveh seems to agree, as this is from the end of his character story 5:

“ Rationality and sensibility, language and architecture, knowledge and human feelings... Things that can never be integrated are what constitute the two sides of the mirror — indeed, of the entire world. “

I made a whole other post about this after Kaveh’s drip marketing, but there’s even more now. One thing I personally find quite relevant is their attitudes towards other people; where Alhaitham is an extraordinarily self-reflective individual, Kaveh obsesses over the lives of others. He speaks about wish to “rein Alhaitham in” and an important part of his arc through his character stories is recognising that: “the most unshakable part of one's past is a friend that will never change”. Alhaitham, on the other hand, obsesses over looking inward at himself, claiming that that’s the reason he enjoys Kaveh living with him.

Why are they so different in this way? Simply put: Kaveh is afraid of looking inward, of self-reflection because of the guilt he’s held onto for so many years. He’s extroverted and personable, he has no issue constructing the fantasy of his life for other people to see him through. But Alhaitham can look past all of that, like Kaveh says he’s the only one who truly knows Alhaitham, Alhaitham is the only person who really understands Kaveh.

But Alhaitham isn’t perfect - he’s so focused on himself because he can’t handle others. He doesn’t understand; he can’t comprehend why Kaveh acts like he does even they he knows him so well, and talks a big game about how emotions and logic combine to create human intention/action, but Alhaitham himself falls short of ever really getting it. To him it’s all a formula to be followed - he can get to the correct answer, but he doesn’t know what to do with it.

Kaveh writes in his journal about the project he and Alhaitham undertook, and it goes as follows:

“ Page 31: Some academic notes and architectural drawings. Postscript: "Our views are aligned, and they are complete." This line has been struck out. "Our views are contradictory, but it is through contradiction that more speculation and philosophy may be born." This line has been retained. Page 42: The cover of a thesis that has been torn up, then put together again. No postscript. “

Between them, there is this push and pull. They are completely alike but then entirely different. I’m not even talking specifically from a shipping point of view, their relationship is based around the idea that they are two necessary parts of one whole. Unironically, they would make excellent dual grand sages.

I’m really glad that Kaveh’s character stories dove into their complexity while not sacrificing Kaveh’s individuality as a character. In fact, Alhaitham talks about Kaveh way more in his voicelines than vice versa - perhaps a sign that Alhaitham is more at peace with their relationship? Kaveh believes that “Alhaitham never did perform a good deed unconditionally“ but in the archon quest, Alhaitham claims that he “does not keep track of favours”.

I think Alhaitham was hurt by Kaveh moreso than Kaveh was hurt by Alhaitham. After all, for Kaveh the painful part was being forced to reconcile with the reality of his life, it just so happens that Alhaitham was the one to reveal it to him. Meanwhile, Kaveh denounced their entire friendship just because Alhaitham told him the truth - that is a conflict based solely in their relationship.

They need to have an open and honest conversation, but Kaveh refuses to trust Alhaitham and Alhaitham never asks the right questions. It’s a genuinely tragic dynamic that could be rectified, if only either of them could do what they always fail to. If Kaveh could self-reflect on his own issues, he might be able to recognise that he’s partially to blame for their woes. If Alhaitham could truly attempt to comprehend Kaveh’s actions past “irrationality”, then he might get out of his own head long enough to wonder about how Kaveh sees him.

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entropyvoid · 4 months

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I haven’t posted much art lately, but here’s a lil Aventurine doodle for ya

#aventurine #hsr aventurine #aventurine hsr #honkai star rail #hsr fanart #cherallart #i started playing star rail recently-ish #my feelings on aventurine are basically that meme of will smith showing off his wife #more complex thoughts are still tentatively loading since hoyo’s not done cooking him yet #but I’m hopeful man. I just got a feeling #bET IT ALL ON AVENTURINE

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blazingblorbos · 4 months

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What is up with them

Genuinely what is wrong with them. You have to understand how much power this holds over me.

What is it with the recent Hoyo women who can just... command horrors, the likes of which no one has ever seen?!?

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nomaejie · 5 months

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Before 4.2 was released, I thought about Furina's words of encouragement to Neuvillette about exploring the human world. There must be an ulterior motive. But when 4.2 came out I knew that Furina knew absolutely nothing about Focalors' plans, she cared about Neuvillette with all sincerity. How could Neuvillette not love such a pure person oh damn Hands on my head.

#jie nvfr shitpost #focalors is so damn right she is the perfect human #neuvifuri relationship is so beautiful and has many layers on it #t I don't know how to summarize everything about them in a single paragraph #Hoyo's writter really cooked too much

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trendywaifus · 4 months

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I love how this is the first thing I wake up to😍

#trendy #robin look so finee #hoyo cooked 😤

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gonguji · 4 days

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i can't believe sethkabu transferred into canon timeline as sethwan...

#* . ⊹ 𝑇𝐻𝑂𝑈𝐺𝐻𝑇𝑆 𝑂𝐹 𝐿𝐼𝐺𝐻𝑇𝑁𝐼𝑁𝐺 › ooc .#CHRIS? CHRIS WAKE THE HECK UP!#HOYOVERSE IS COOKING SOMETHING SPICY. I SAW MANY TWEETS AND YOU SHALL BE DROWNED WITH THE POSTS #yeonban #but also thank god???? its been a year since he appeared canonically no?? i do hope he will be featured in the upcoming dain quest #bc that's what he said he'd do! investigate the abyss still! etc etc! you better make him valiable again hoyo ><

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ccaptain · 2 months

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A funny idea about H:SR Kaeya that I have jokingly introduced and then it has fucked me over for the past hours:

The concept of ''people'' important to the faction of the Enigmata being literally not people, per se- but, instead, akin to Gallagher, only ''beings'' made of traits they acquire from multiple existences.

The very definition of them and what they used to be is an enigma itself, fitting of the Path that these entities decided to follow until their very existence has been shrouded in mystery. Only some people remember them- while others are completely unaware of their existance. Despite the entity being mere feet away from them, the person will legitimately be confused if we name them, like the scene where Gallagher himself is standing very close to a minion of the Family, but they don't know him at all.

Considering that Kaeya will 100% take on @daybreakrising's Gallagher as his mentor and familiar figure, there's the possiblity that the latter has taught him how to discard who Kaeya was for a multitude of reasons.

The fact that Kaeya has been on multiple planets and altered multiple memories related to the Great Catastrophe, thus disrupting the work of the Remembrance and Preservation in the worst possible way, and there still hasn't been a wanted poster with his face, name and bounty on it like with the Stellaron Hunters is suspicious in itself. If somebody was to try and trace his identity back to when he was a younger person, they'd find his existence void and null. There used to be a young man who had witnessed the destruction of his planet due to it's greed-

Now, there's only a cobalt-haired young man that seems to strike the chord of resemblance to a certaint someone that we know- that is ''Kaeya''.

And, underneath those traits, there's only a ''being''.

You know someone that has ceased to exist. You have talked with someone who has, by now, eluded reality itself. The person that you love, that you had tea with, that you put a bandaid on, that you have talked to, smiled to and touched has never existed.

This could be ''Kaeya''.

#from another realm ━ (ooc)#riddle me this; is everything that you remember real and nothing but the pure truth? ━ (H:SR V.)#man oh man. @hoyo do NOT CONTRADICT ME ON THIS. I AM ONCE AGAIN COOKING #IF YOU CONTRADICT ME WHEN THE ENIGMATA PATH COMES OUT: FUCK YOU #also: SPOILERS FOR PE.NA.CONY #you no longer know me; shrouded in the fog of mystery ━ (H:SR V. Headcanons)

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