#DW Theory

[genderqueerpond]

We don't talk enough about the fact that Amelia Pond, s5 Amelia Pond, before the timeline is reset, isn't just a normal orphan. Her parents didn't die, didn't abandon her, and didn't send her away. They never existed in the first place.

And if her parents never existed, then Amelia cannot exist. She is a causal impossibility.

"People fall out of the world sometimes, but they always leave traces." A photograph. A face carved into an apple. Yes. Sure.

A child.

Now that's too big, surely.

But that's what she is. She is exactly the same as these things. A trace. An echo of something that could never be, never was, never could have been.

And the universe should never allow it. A whole person, that's just too much. She could not have continued to exist indefinitely, in normal circumstances, after her parents never existed.

In normal circumstances.

Because the Doctor didn't just save her from things coming out of the crack in her wall. He saved her from going into it. And he didn't just save her from the threat of going into it simply because of its vicinity.

No, by arriving when he did, he interrupted a process that was probably already in motion. And then by arriving again only moments later on a cosmic relative timestream (too quickly for the process to complete) and yet in the local relative timestream, years later --- years of a potential future caught midway through the process of rewriting -- he solidified that existence. Amy is a creature from another timeline, caught in amber. The Doctor prevented her from never existing, but only after she could already never exist.

And so, no one around Amelia thinks about it. Neither does she. There's some kind of consciousness block, because if you thought about it, really thought about it, for two seconds you'd realize she cannot exist. And the human mind can't deal with that. So, to protect itself, everyone's brain simply slides off it before ever noticing. They just assume that her existence makes sense, and don't question it, and don't notice what they don't question, that is staring them in the face.

But of course, to some extent they do notice. They can't think it, but they notice subconsciously that there's something they can't think. They notice there's something wrong with her, something uncanny. And they don't like it, and they alienate her even more because of it.

"Does it ever bother you Pond that your life existence doesn't make any sense?"

#like!!!!!! why arent we talking about this!!!!!!! #amelia pond #amy pond #the ultimate autism metaphor on top of being autistic anyway #doctor who #dw #ndw #dw theory #lavender thoughts #SHE CAN'T EXIST SHE IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE #you called clara the impossible girl but that's amy #and THEN the fact that even after it's all set right #she remains shaped by -- remains deeply traumatized by -- a timeline that never happened; a reality that never was #AUGH !!!!! #some wounds just can't heal even if the thing that caused them never existed in the first place #some wounds remain as a TRACE of the other time just as you yourself were once #THE mental illness rep of all time #and in the big bang of course the doctor had to take the shortcut because if they'd all gone the long way round #she'd have been gone before he got there #as starless universe's little amelia disappeared.... it could be millienia but from another perspective it HAD to be moments #they made it only in the nick of time #and the doctor knew that #pond

[intuitive-revelations]

Random headcanon I came up with early this morning, because I’ve been thinking about Gallifreyan language recently:

The reason why so many Time Lord things are decorated with circular Gallifreyan, often too impractically to actually be read (eg. on the Moment), is because it’s a cultural touchstone that remains from pre-/early-Pythian Gallifrey’s use of magical runes and sigils.

Presumably it was more typically Old High Gallifreyan used in that time (though The Timeless Children does seemingly confirm circular Gallifreyan existed at least as far back as Rassilon's time, if not earlier), however. Twelve describes it as ‘the language of the Pythia’ in The Lost Magic, and as Eleven says in The Time of Angels:

ELEVEN: There were days, there were many days, these words could burn stars and raise up empires, and topple gods.

This is obviously very reminescent of the Carrionites' (themselves from the Dark Times too) "word-based science" from The Shakespeare Code:

MARTHA: What did you do? TEN: I named her. The power of a name. That's old magic. MARTHA: But there's no such thing as magic. TEN: Well, it's just a different sort of science. You lot, you chose mathematics. Given the right string of numbers, the right equation, you can split the atom. Carrionites use words instead.

In other words, while they probably weren't actually intended as such and may have their own specific meaning, whether they be poetry, namesakes, histories, instructions, whatever... these are basically protective wards:

[ID: Five screenshots of Circular Gallifreyan in New Who.

1. Rassilon's Inner High Council meeting in The End of Time Part 2. The table and headrests are inscribed with circular Gallifreyan.

2. The Moment in Day of the Doctor. Gallifreyan writing bends round the edges of the wooden frame.

3. The 'whirligig' rotar in Eleven's second TARDIS, inscribed with individual Gallifreyan symbols.

4. Set photo of the glowing Gallifreyan writing on the steps of Thirteen's TARDIS.

5. Tecteun's laboratory in The Timeless Children. Circular Gallifreyan lines the light above her, and a door in the background.]

As a side note - if they actually are kind-of intended as a form of protection, perhaps this is why we were only introduced to Circular Gallifreyan in New Who, despite it seemingly existing through Gallifreyan history. Because it was retroactively inserted into Gallifreyan culture as a form of defense during the War in Heaven / Last Great Time War?

Regardless, this also opens up questions how many other Time Lord traditions are holdovers from the Dark Times.

For example, who's to say that the renegade naming tradition didn't begin as a form of protection from hexes - either from hostile forces in the pre-anchoring universe, or from oppressive magic-users back on the homeworld? This may also be connected to the change in Gallifreyan name format before and after the Intuitive Revelation (eg. ancestral -sti and -sor names), though shifting power structures, gender roles etc. presumably played a role too.

Heck, is this one reason why Gallifrey's own name has changed over its history? From Jewel to Gallifrey in Rassilon's time to try and protect it from vengeful Pythian curses. From Gallifrey to just 'the Homeworld' in the War to protect it from new rituals of alternative histories and paradox?

#Doctor Who #Gallifrey #Gallifreyan #Circular Gallifreyan #The Pythia #DW Theory #DW Meta #Doctor Who EU

[tonsillessscum]

Fellas don’t you hate it when you set up your ex-codependent-toxic-yuri-situationship with a girl who is a carbon copy of you (knowing that they’ll fall in love w/ the carbon copy) and then they actually fall in love with that carbon copy of you and develop another codependent-toxic-yuri-situationship that isn’t with you?🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

#ridoctorwho #doctor who #dr who #text post #dw theory #theta sigma #the doctor #11th Doctor #12th Doctor #koschei #missy!master #missy doctor who #thoschei #twissy #12 x missy #Clara Oswald #whouffaldi #12clara #clara x twelve

[lariskapargitay]

So I have two Ruby theories. I think, no matter if theory one or two is true, 13 is ABSOLUTELY connected either way

She has the same hair color, the same hair length

They both wear jewelry with chains on them

The mother is not only wearing boots, but she has her ankles showing

Also look at a closeup of their faces. Their jaws jut out the same. Exact. Way.

Like it’s very clear that no matter what, 13 will play a part in this mystery.

So my theories are;

1) Thirteen is Ruby’s mother. She told Yaz, ‘I don’t want to get involved with you bc I’ve lost too many people’. She wouldn’t want that for her own child, she wouldn’t want her child to be a Time Lord, so she takes away Ruby’s regeneration and immortality abilities somehow. Thirteen then wiped her own memory bc she doesn’t want to remember a child who’ll eventually die which is why 15 doesn’t know who she is but felt drawn to protect her

As for who the father is? I mean…

And then the hand we see picking up the tooth is Ruby’s. She has to go back and save her father in sort of a terminator type plot. They can even say it wasn’t Thirteen and the Master but Thirteen and ‘O’ if they didn’t want to cross that boundary. They were friends and she did spend the night in his house for a bit. She even signed her text ‘kisses’ so O and the Doctor were close.

2) Thirteen isn’t her mother, but Ruby is the Doctor herself. After finding out about the Timeless Child, Thirteen goes back to Gallifrey somehow, or whatever original planet the Doctor is from, and she saves the child from all the torture and experiments and all the horrors the Time Lords inflicted on baby Doctor. She takes the child, does the memory wipe for her, regeneration wipe from Ruby, and leaves her on the steps of the church. And we think it’s gonna be revealed that Ruby is 13’s daughter after we get the inevitable cliffhanger of Ruby ripping back the hood and 13 is standing there shocked, and we spend an entire episode of Ruby thinking 13 is her mom only to reveal that no, Ruby is ALSO the Doctor.

#doctor who spoilers #doctor who #dw theory #doctor who theory #dw spoilers #dw speculation #doctor who speculation #the thirteenth doctor #ruby sunday #fifteenth doctor

[causalityparadoxes]

I know I'm a big "what if EU/Classic character!?!?!" Theory enjoyer and proposer

But with Gallifrey gone rn, I would also LOVE if we started getting new Renegades. Or Time-War deserters. Or people who managed to flee from Gallifrey, before one of their now numerous extinction events.

Maybe coming out of hiding, because if whatever the Toymaker did could happen, then Gallifrey is definitely not in power anymore.

If Jinx Monsoon's characters was a more chaotic renegade who took advantage of the universe's shift into fantasy. Or Mrs. Flood was a renegade/survivor who was hiding out on earth away from it all, ala Professor Chronotis. Potentially watching over whoever/whatever Ruby is.

Then maybe over the next few series they could introduce more and more random Gallifreyan's scattered across the universe. Some deadly, some just living out their lives, maybe even a few 'hybrids'. Gallifrey gone but the people living on.

Idk I just think it would be neat.

#doctor who #dw #dw speculation #dw theory #doctor who s14 #season 14 #series 14 #fifteenth doctor #dw spoilers #ish #theory #speculation

[bitter-goodbyes]

So, with that trailer yesterday,

(Please reblog for a bigger response!!)

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[tinkerbitch69]

So my fellow whovians, i have a theory…

I watched the snowmen again last night and the doctor’s sudden shift following the ponds death doesn’t really make sense to me. All of a sudden he’s changed his whole outlook on life, stopped travelling, refuses to help people and just generally becomes Scrooge more or less. Like I know the ponds death would have hit him hard but like THAT seems a bit much…

And everyone in the paternoster gang says he has been this way for a long time but they don’t seem to be that much older than they were when we saw them in a good man goes to war. So he can’t have been parked on that cloud and moping about for more than a few years which idk that doesn’t exactly qualify as a long time to me, especially with the doctor.

So, people have often asked why he couldn’t go back and get them, even if all of the 1930s was off limits to his TARDIS because of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, couldn’t he have just popped to the 40s or 50s and retrieved them when they were a bit older? He does have a Time Machine after all …

Well what if he DID?

He picked up the ponds and essentially kept travelling with them on and off for the rest of their lives but ultimately he lost them again when they died of old age and he had to visit those graves again. No matter how many times he would travel back in time to find them at a point in their past where he could pick them up and take them on a new adventure, eventually he would have to drop them off again, knowing they are inevitably heading to their deaths, however slowly. No matter he does, he can’t save them.

No matter what he does, his time with them is always finite.

And it’s THIS realisation that hits him so hard that he gives up on travelling and decides to brood in Victorian London for the rest of his life (excellent locale for brooding btw). the paternoster gang know he’s been this obsessive about the ponds and it’s not healthy for him which is why they say he’s been like this for a long time. He shut everyone else out long before he ended up on that cloud. he stopped trying to move on and find a new companion because he can’t go through getting attached to them when he knows his time with them will eventually and inevitably run out…

#no wonder twelve went so far to save Clara #I really like this theory #and not just cuz it opens the door for a whole bunch of big finish stories with ponds of all ages #but mostly for that reason lol #doctor who #dw #dw theory #the snowmen #eleventh doctor #the ponds #amy pond #rory williams #the paternoster gang #also if I were to pick a spot to brood for the rest of my life it would be be Victorian London too. #excellent atmosphere for self indulgent angst

[bee11037]

Will River Song return in the new RTD2 era?

Yes!

... I think

I hope would be the more honest answer.

all I'm saying is that there is a huge gap between the projects and things Alex Kingston was doing during the time of filming series 14 (aka Ncuti's first series).

Plus! She said she had a big spoiler, like, 2 months ago to the Radio Times!

Now idk if you're like me and kicked you feet when you read that but all I'm saying is it fits too well

She said "I'm keeping a juicy spoiler! Yes, that will be revealed, I would imagine, later in the year."

IF THAT'S NOT A RIVER RETURN TO OUR TV I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!

ok, I'm gonna to go crawl into my corner now and rewatch the husband of river song

Goodnight! <3

#doctor who #river song #dw theory #doctorriver #rtd2 #doctor who theory #15th doctor #alex kingston #dw series 14 #series 14 #my post

[xivthdoctor]

Okay, so my current Doctor Who theory is that they've been in the toymakers universe from the very start, and it all happened outside the normal universe. Hence why they were able to change history so easily with the mavity stuff since it wasn't real to start with.

This means that maybe the metacrisis was never actually fixed. If it was actually gone, she shouldn't be able to see it at all, right?

I'm just spitballing here, so I might be way off the mark, but still.

#doctor who #dw spoilers #14th doctor #donna noble #dw theory

[witchofthemidlands]

me mother: ruby is river & the doctor's spawn. (i don't genuinely see how as wouldn't there be dna that could be traceable from the pond & williams families seeing as they are river's biological parents/grandparents)

the fanfic sector of my brain: ruby is rose & metaten's eldest daughter (but same with the theory for the doctor & river, wouldn't there be dna traces left of the tyler family from before they were stranded in the parallel world)

the practical sector of my brain: ruby is part alien, we've never met her species & this is just going to be a brand new element of the show like the bane & how sky was made in the sarah jane adventures. ruby has no prior connections to ANY classic-new who characters.

me: ✨sees this✨

✨all realms of sanity gone✨ ruby is the master's daughter (potentially the one missy mentioned in the witch's familiar)

#ruby sunday #new new who #millie gibson #doctor who #dw theory #whoniverse

[intuitive-revelations]

Ok, so what's the over/under on this being a tie in to Wild Blue Yonder?

It's funny, cos I wonder where the Tardis goes at random. Maybe it lands on some outcrop by the sea. And there's a tribe and they worship it for 100 years. Then they grow up and try to burn it. Then they get wise. They preserve it. Then they build a city all around it, till the Tardis is just a tiny little dot, surrounded by skyscrapers and monorails. Time passes and the city falls. It all gets swept away. And there's the Tardis… still on its outcrop… by the sea. She's the only thing I've got left.

Maybe a sequel episode where this indeed happened, and Fifteen and Ruby return to find a civilisation built from a history of worshipping the TARDIS?

#Doctor Who #DW Theory #DW Spoilers #Doctor Who Spoilers #Fifteenth Doctor #Ruby Sunday #Wild Blue Yonder

[tyravenholme]

Doctor Who Theories (again)

Going to be spoiling the recent 60th episodes which were fantastic so fair warning now for anyone who has still yet to see those episodes because I am going to be spoiling them as I dive into a theory that's been forming in my head regarding some new stuff. You have been warned. Okay, so the third special introduced an entirely new thing called Bi-Generation, however, it is quickly implied by the Doctor to be "not a thing" as well as "a myth" implying there was at the very least something of a notion in Gallifreyian society for Time Lords to be able to bi-generate into two distinct individuals, one being the previous incarnation and the other being the next incarnation. Now, my theory involves a couple of things. The first is where did the myth come from and why is it considered a myth? Well, given what we've learned about Regeneration in the recent series, we know that regenration was something attained by Gallifreyians after the Doctor -- The Timeless Child -- died once and regenerated. After which both the Division and Time Lord society became a thing and the Doctor's history becomes a little bit more complicated, eventually leading to a point where their memories are erased and they're forced to regenerate into the form of a child, things we know Time Lords are able to do as it's been shown numerous times they have that power. Anyway, what if this Bi-Generation isn't the first, what if during that mysterious history of the Doctor's, when the Doctor was being experimented on as a child so regeneration could be better understood or while they worked with/for Division that they Bi-Generated at some point, producing a second Doctor. It would never have been seen among Time Lords because Regeneration is not a natural thing among Time Lords so the act of Bi-Generating would be this insanely new bizarre thing, almost mythical, entirely random, unclear as to how it could be achieved, not even the Doctor knows how it works. What then? Two Doctors? One with a TARDIS, one without because there's no Toymaker to create a duplicate TARDIS as a reward, plus, if they're working for what is essentially the secret shady organization that nobody knows exists, what would they do? My theory is that the Doctor has Bi-Generated once before and it was this very act that served as the myth of bi-generation as no other Time Lord has ever been seen to do it -- because for them it's not natural -- but for the Doctor, it's perfectly natural, but because they had been tampered with, they never Bi-Generated once during their original cycle as Division has taken their natural ability away from them, until it was returned to them at the Time of the Doctor as the Time Lords were desperate. So if the Doctor has Bi-Generated once before, where's the other Doctor, how come we've never seen them before? Well, a lot of people have pointed out that it's possible that the 14th Doctor is actually the Curator who is some version of the Doctor's future, but it's very mysteries -- they are also the one who says the Doctor will revisit some old familiar faces so it seems very fitting.

When was the last time we ever say another incarnation of the Doctor that wasn't the Doctor. The Valeyard. The Valeyard was introduced a long time ago as an incarnation of the Doctor between his 12th and Final Incarnation. And Given how complicated the Doctor's incarnations are, maybe this wasn't referring to their future, but rather, their past. Maybe the Master had been told this, but they inferred the Time Lords meant the Doctor's future when they actually meant the Doctor's past. Maybe the Valeyard was the other half of the Doctor when they Bi-Generated for the first time, and Division being Division, not only kept them a secret, but experimented on them and became the type of person they are by the time we are introduced to them. However, it is also entirely possible that the 14th Doctor is the Valeyard because technically they do fit the description of being an incarnation between the 12th and Final incarnation of the Doctor, so maybe they are the Curator, but a potential future villain akin to the Master, one who regenerates over and over until eventually running out because they are the previous incarnation of a bi-generation and thus perhaps lack that same quality (or maybe the current Doctor's regenerative abilities are actually still limited to a cycle of 12 which would mean it would run out eventually again) It would kinda suck if the 14th became the Valeyard given how amazing their sendoff was and that they've finally got their happy ending, so the Curator seems like a much better fit for them -- as their existence is still a mystery also. But the idea that the Doctor has Bi-Generated once before, their double taken by the Division and experimented on worse than before thus turning them into the villain they would eventually become that would seek to acquire the Doctor's remaining regenerations far into the future.

#doctorwho #doctor who #the doctor #tardis #regeneration #14th doctor #15th doctor #david tennant #ncuti gatwa #dw spoilers #doctor who theory #dw theory

[triciaisonline]

okay but the mystery of ruby sunday is absolutely tied to the trailer lines about the world becoming more supernatural (aka fantasy/fairytale) - which MIGHT be tied to the toymaker being let in and creating that change in the world during the 60th... I think the use of foundling being used in her first episode is intentional as it feels old-fashioned and invokes that mystery sense.

my SMALL pet theory is that ruby isn't necessarily an alien as others have predicted but closer to something akin to a Doctor Who equivalent of fae/mischief due to these changes happening in the world since the 60th and continued both in the church on ruby road and from what we've seen in the trailer.

#doctor who #dw #ruby sunday #dw theory #its just a theory #a doctor who theory #thanks for reading

[shishuri]

I've been thinking about this since the Star Beast episode.

Did the DoctorDonna knew that she will meet the Doctor again and got herself fired as a prep?

You know, kinda like her gifting the book to Wilf as a clue for the Doctor in the End of time.

Of course, Donna herself would not know, but deep in her mind, the DoctorDonna still there fighting for the Doctor.

#doctor who #donna noble #doctor donna #dw spoilers #dw #doctor who theory #dw theory #doctor who the star beast

[causalityparadoxes]

I am once again SCREAMING for the One Who Waits to be Death herself. Yes I know Empire of Death could refer to anything BUT IT COULD ALSO REFER TO DEATH'S PRESENCE OVERWHELMING EMPIRES. Yes, yes I know 8 episodes would be too quick to introduce a character like Death. Yes i know it'll likely just refer to some horrible deathly scenario with the season's fantasy inspired villain.

but BUT have you considered that Death being in TV Doctor Who would make me personally very happy

#doctor who #dw spoilers #15th doctor #fifteenth doctor #doctor who trailer #dw speculation #dw theory #dweu #spoilers #doctor who series 14 #the one who waits #doctor who death

[cosmicallyavg]

saw someone on tik tok point this out so im gonna share here:

in the power of the doctor, the last shot we get of the first doctor right before the reversal of the forced regeneration, his eyes look very dark/black and that perhaps its an indication of something being awry with the regeneration from thirteen into fourteen like we���ve been theorizing...... that something evil is afoot........ very inch resting

#like it might just be the light but #idk #its kinda scary ngl #feel like he might murder me with a rock #doctor who #dw theory #the power of the doctor