#Bingqiu meta

[zykamiliah]

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#svsss #svsss meta #luo binghe #bingqiu #bingqiu meta #luo binghe meta #does adspexi has tumblr??? i have no idea

[toffeecoco1]

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Ok my first instinct was to laugh, but then I realised you might be onto something???

Shen Yuan is LITERALLY an impostor, who’s more far more kind and beloved by Binghe than the original. The Guanyin pendant is a counterfeit, but it carries the love of Binghe’s mother and is far more precious than any real jade could ever be.

The heartbreak Binghe’s mother felt after realising that the Guanyin pendant was fake and she’d been tricked was part of what lead to the gradual decline of her health.¹ In wanting to do something kind for Binghe, she felt that she’d failed, and this led to her demise. What is Shen Qingqiu’s entire story, but trying to be kind to Binghe, feeling inadequate at this, and dying? (More than once!!)

Guanyin is a Bodhisattva associated with mercy, kindness, compassion and unconditional love. She is a patron of mothers, and is called upon in times of fear, uncertainty, and despair. The Bodhisattva she originated from is seen as a saviour, through whose grace even those with the most negative karma can achieve salvation. Even when she is not worshipped as a goddess, she is revered as the principle of love, compassion and mercy.² From wikipedia, “The act, thought and feeling of compassion and love is viewed as Guanyin. A merciful, compassionate, loving individual is said to be Guanyin.”²

The original Luo Binghe appears never to have lost his pendant. Shen Qingqiu tells us: “It was the only bit of warmth in Luo Binghe’s dark world, always by his side, and even in the future when he was at his darkest, it could summon up his last dregs of humanity.”¹ He also states that “it was Luo Binghe’s biggest berserk button.”¹

Our Luo Binghe does not cling to the pendant when he’s at his darkest: he clings to the love he has for his shizun and to memories of his kindness, and later, to the lifeless body of Shen Qingqiu himself. His biggest berserk button isn’t when people insult the pendant or his mother, or try to take it away; it’s Shen Qingqiu: when people insult him or try to take him away.

From the start, Shen Qingqiu expresses truly unconditional love for Binghe. He spends three years showing endless compassion and kindness, actions which feel insignificant to him but are more than enough to completely change Binghe’s life. He holds no blame or resentment for the things he fears Binghe will do to him; though he doesn’t want to be tortured, he forgives Binghe for it nonetheless, before it has even happened. He sacrifices himself to save Binghe as his mind is eaten away at by Xin Mo, when he believes that Binghe just slaughtered a hundred Huan Hua Disciples, when Binghe’s reckless use of the sword is putting countless more lives at risk.³

Shen Qingqiu is a counterfeit that is more precious than the original could ever be. For Binghe, he personifies kindness, compassion and unconditional love. His regrets over his treatment of Binghe lead to his temporary demise. Binghe clings to him in his darkest moments, and he is that which Binghe protects most fiercely.

I always found the pendant’s role in the story to be almost lacking: it’s treated as such an important item to Binghe, yet in the end its return is almost anticlimactic. But perhaps this is because the role the pendant played in Bing-ge’s story has been overtaken by Shen Qingqiu. When he returns the pendant, Binghe is relieved and appreciative: but his joy seems to stem more from the fact that Shen Qingqiu held onto it and cherished him than from the pendant itself. The pendant doesn’t matter all that much to him anymore, at least not compared to how important it seems to have been in PIDW. Binghe doesn't need an object to symbolize love and kindness; he has a person to love, who loves him back.

In conclusion: Shizun was in fact the fake jade Guanyin pendant all along!

sources cited below :)

1. Seven Seas Volume 1, Chapter 1: Scum. Pages 40-41.

2. “Guanyin,” Wikipedia. There’s a lot more to her than what I mentioned here, she’s quite interesting.

3. Seven Seas Volume 2, Chapter 8: Death. Pages 154-156.

#svsss #shen qingqiu #luo binghe #bingqiu #svsss meta #meta #scum villain’s self saving system #i can’t believe i wrote a 650 word essay with citations instead of doing my coursework

[fenrisfenrichfenrir]

Shen brothers but make it as embarrassing for Shen Yuan as possible

AU where Airplane becomes more financially secure at some point and so starts to write extras where he details things like Shen Jiu’s background and motivations, along with how the majority of accusations against him were false. This makes Shen Yuan so angry at how things went down in canon that he enters a rage fugue state and writes a self-insert fanfiction where he’s Shen Jiu’s younger brother and Luo Binghe’s best friend and manages to soften Shen Jiu’s outlook and therefore give Luo Binghe a nice disciplehood.

And then it becomes one of those fanfics that’s so popular people write fanfic in the world of the fanfic rather than canon, and Shen Yuan/Luo Binghe becomes a hugely popular pairing.

Shen Yuan gets big mad about it because ‘LUO BINGHE ISN’T GAY >:{’, so he writes a bunch of angry comments on the fics. (there’s some fics where Shen Yuan is a woman and those are suspiciously void of Cucumber hate)

And Airplane finds this so incandescently funny that he writes a new extra legitimizing Shen Yuan into canon and detailing his death at the hands of the Qiu family. Even more motivation for Shen Jiu to hate everything! *jazz hands*

Long story short, when Shen Yuan transmigrates he does it into his own Mary Sue OC. I think it’s what he deserves.

(also please picture his face when he finds out Binghe is in love with him. Like, the fangirls were RIGHT?? he’d never recover)

#svsss #bingqiu #bingyuan #luo binghe #shen qingqiu #shen jiu #shen yuan #mxtx #shang qinghua #airplane shooting towards the sky #kind of meta but honestly not hugely more meta than svsss is already #fenrisfenrichfenrir thoughts

[yea-baiyi]

say what you want about svsss but hands down the most distraught i have ever been while reading a mxtx novel is after the bing-ge extra. what do you mean he asked shen qingqiu to come with him. what do you mean “it’s not fair”. what do you mean he looked back.

#svsss #luo binghe #luo bingge #lbh #meta stuff #every time i read that part i literally have to just stop to recover #because what the hell. he’s making his escape but at the last moment he turns. #he turns and looks back and then he vanished forever. and the narration is shocked #that it was so easy. #what in the eurydice mangan’s sister and lot’s wife have you done to me #turned into a pillar of salt #i don’t know if i have it in me to be more eloquent about this. it’s just. #out of everything this is just the ultimate tragedy #the fact that it’s just part of an extra. the FIRST extra #i just sit there like i’m supposed to just move on from that????? i’m supposed to read ahead and watch bingqiu fuck #and not want to rip my own heart out?????? #i just. i just. i said i’m not ready to get into it with svsss i just know it’ll break me

[ineffectualdemon]

BINGQIU IS A PARALLEL TO BINGHE'S BIRTH PARENTS BUT SHEN QINGQIU = TIANLANG-JUN

Su Xiyan and Luo Binghe: Prodigy Disciples with immense skill and ability. Favoured and desired by the Huan Hua Palace Master who uses them to discredit and malign and remove/imprison the person they love.

They both suffer greatly for their love of the other person and have reasons to distrust most people and they have a understandable falling out with their sect in general

Rumours spread about their relationship with their love interest that is greatly at odds with the truth

They even look similar

Tianlang-jun and Shen Qingqiu: Nasty rumours and bad reputation, there is some truth but a lot more lies said about them. Both imprisoned and "died"

In fact both are buried for a time! Tianlang-jun under mountain and Shen Qingqiu in the ground!

Both are also deeply fascinated with things about the other realm. Tianlang-jun is fascinated by humans and is almost an anthropologist in his study of humans

Meanwhile Shen Qingqiu is fascinated by monsters and demonic creatures.

Both have devoted side kicks who follow after them to help them (Zhuzhi-lang and Liu Qingge and Luo Binghe for a time)

Both are kinda careless with their own life and safety and personal care

Of course there are differences between the two couples but it's also so interesting that there are so many parallels and I woke up out of a doze to write this quickly because I realised this

#svsss #svsss meta #bingqiu #tianxi #su xiyan #tianlang jun #luo binghe #shen qingqiu

[luna-sheep]

i love how much of Binghe's conveyance of care for sqq is rooted in providing and protecting, even the domestic activities associated with women or servants and therefore looked down on are important to him bc he KNOWS, as the son of a poor washer woman, how vital they are. they are the stable foundation of a good life

a warm delicious meal, a safe, warm house. soft, warm, and clean clothes. lovingly ensured and maintained for his precious person, with his own hands. the money and power to make sure it can't be taken away from them. it goes hand in hand with his quest for physical strength to protect sqq and it all started with being unable to give his dying mother any congee, and him growing up poor in the streets.

providing for sqq in all ways is an intimate expression of his love, but at the same time, it isn't selfless (not that that makes it less sweet or loving).

he guards the right to clean his husband's home, wash his laundry, and cook his meals jealously. it makes him feel more secure about his worth as a partner, because NO ONE else could possibly care for his husband as well as he does. no one else knows how he prefers his food, the temperature of his bath water, or could attend to his wants and needs as well as him.

it's a point of pride in how GOOD he can be for his love, how WELL he can keep him, how safe and happy and comfortable. if he makes sure he's the best, in a material sense, at caring for sqq, then perhaps he can convince his beloved and himself that he's worth staying with, even if Binghe knows he's not otherwise "worthy" (in his own mind at least).

#luo binghe #svsss #bingqiu #svsss meta #lbh

[verycharismaticdragon]

I mentioned it briefly a couple days ago but actually im obsessed with Luo Binghe's little list of favorite places to be kissed.

"Forehead, fingers, lips, everywhere." (vol.4, ch.31)

Like, capping it with "everywhere" is perfect because of course.

But then we start hitting other characterization here, namely that "lips" is third on the list. That Luo Binghe doesn't pick the type of kiss that's associated with romance, or passion, as his first or even second choice. Nope! Apparently our boy likes nonsexual gestures of intimacy more!

And as I said before "forehead" being his top pick (இ﹏இ` ) He likes to be kissed on the demon mark most. He likes the small, chaste assurance more than anything else, more than anything only lovers would do. Gib him kissies SQQ! Do it!

And then we get to fingers which is even more insane because okay. Forehead is very understandable. Lips are also very understandable. But like, fingers?! Because. you know. Shen Qingqiu's obfuscating ass have not mentioned this to us ever like at all. When were you kissing Binghe's hands so much huh?? that he developed such a liking for it that he mentions it before 'lips'? At most I think wedding extra mentions SQQ sucking on Binghe's fingers but. is it that? because we all know SQQ would absolutely not fucking mention if he was just casually kissing Binghe's hands. Damn his unreliable narrator ways.

Anyway yeah obsessed with the implications here help

#luo binghe #bingqiu #shen qingqiu #svsss #svsss meta #scum villain's self saving system #scum villain's self-saving system

[gurggggleburgle]

I wish I could go on about mdzs like I do about scum villain because while I absolutely adore both books Lan Zhan and Wei Ying are kind lacking the burning trashfire dragged through mud energy I need to properly shit post on them. Like yeah they're funny but they're not having a mental breakdown because they discovered that pegging and service tops existed as they fumble through basic healthy levels of communication level funny.

Like Wei Ying isn't going to get in a hairpulling fist fight at 3 am in the Wal-Mart parking lot because some bitch took the last copy of the lastest switch game sensation that was secretly on sale at this one location for almost half off and almost bite off a leg in the process. Screaming obsenties and yelling at airplane over and over as they break every object in their cart because despite being rich man is still going to do this

And lan wangji isnt learning how to fuck with his rivals car engine and break system so conveniently they'll have a minor accident that will delay their coffee date which would be oh so sad and can't be pinned on him despite the grease stains on his hand. Oh is this seat taken? Dont mind if I do hahahaha funny coincidence.

No they're too busy buying veggies at the local famers market holding hands and kissing wholesomeness. They have pta meetings and local kids soccer teams to cheer at and non sexually charged pottery class where Wei Ying is desperately trying to make matching mugs and tiny tea plates but they turn out lopsided so Lan Wangji makes bowls to match along with one of those things that latches onto the side and holds your chopsticks or spoon or whatever and they're so in love. They're so sincere. Gross

Like those bitches are too normal and wholesome. I cannot drag them through the mud. If I do they'll get cleaner despite this reverse car wash nonsense.

#svsss #scumbag system #shen qingqiu #shen yuan #svsss shitpost #sqq #luo binghe #bingqiu #mdzs #meta

[violetdisasterzone]

yet another svsss hill I'm dying on despite the apparent popular opinion — bingqiu would be great parents! give them a decade of peace and quiet to start healing from the trauma of.. everything and to get comfortable in the fact that their love and commitment to the other is reciprocated equally, and I can 100% see them wanting some little ones.

Shen Qingqiu overcame both his age AND gender to become Cang Qiong's resident milf in a matter of days after his transmigration. He's great with kids - as Shen Yuan he had a younger sister who he likely helped raise or was at least somewhat close with, he obviously loves teaching and doting on his disciples, he's immediately protective of random-abandoned-toddler!Binghe in the dream realm after escaping from the Water Prison, and obviously in the Return to Childhood extra he's (the only one) having a great time. you're telling me he WOULDN'T want a baby version of Binghe for real??

and as for Luo Binghe himself, the joke/argument I see most often is that he'd be jealous of the baby for taking his shizun's time and attention away from him. first of all, by the end of the novel, do you know how many times that man has died in his arms, pushed him away, or been separated from him in some other very traumatic ways, mostly while he was being influenced by an evil sword that amplified his worst intrusive thoughts? do you know how many people WOULD take Shen Qingqiu away, given the chance?! I think he deserves to be a bit paranoid!! but again, with a bit more distance and healing from his traumas, time, and reassurance that Shen Qingqiu really is staying, I fully believe he will mellow out in that regard. with that aside, Luo Binghe is a total mama's boy, he's a part-time emperor full-time housewife, and his greatest dream has always been to be a family with Shen Qingqiu. I don't think it's a stretch at all to imagine that someday in the future, he would want to grow that family with him too. and although we don't see him interacting with children in canon the way we do Shen Qingqiu, I cannot imagine him not loving his kids, a tangible result of their love, to pieces too.

#I'm passionate about this can you tell #lies and slander (/hj) are being spread about bingqiu CONSTANTLY and I am standing my ground to defend them until I can stand no longer #but on another note #my absolute favorite way for bingqiu to acquire a baby is through some pidw-typical magic plant #the whole plant baby concept is just SO CUTE #and I'm w shen qingqiu on this one honestly #BABY BINGHE #any bby w binghe's genes is gonna be the cutest the world has ever seen #I don’t make the rules airplane does #svsss #人渣反派自救系统 #bingqiu #luo binghe #shen qingqiu #svsss meta #scum villain's self saving system

[archie257]

I need everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, to know that Bingqiu have the same height (1 inch really doesn't make any visual difference) and the same twunk body type.

Aesthetically you can go bonkers with your choices but don't push heteronormative art conventions onto my weirdo4weirdo gays please.

#luo binghe #shen qingqiu #svsss #scumbag self saving system #scumbag system #bingqiu #mxtx #mxtx svsss #lbh #svsss meta

[starry-stan-blog]

shen qingqiu, after bashing shang qinghua’s writing for several paragraphs, begrudgingly admits that he loves lbh. I cant w this man. literally the FIRST thing he does after thinking “hey, sometimes airplane’s writing IS satisfying” is LOOK AT FUCKING BINGHE.

he’s whipped

#WHIPPED I tell u #svsss meta #danmei #svsss #mxtx #shen qingqiu #luo binghe #bingqiu #shang qinghua

[zykamiliah]

One of @rippedorigami 's last posts made me remember a scene from vol.3 of svsss, about how sqq's love for binghe is something you have to look for because his narration hides it, disguises it as something else, or he mentally changes topic and thus distracts us readers from what he's actually feeling.

The scene is the one were they're at the inn just before they receive the summons to Zhao Hua Monastery.

The next morning, half-dreaming and half-awake, he sensed someone else in the room. This person’s steps and movements both were incredibly light. When Shen Qingqiu opened his eyes, he immediately froze.

The only one who’d be interested in slipping into his room first thing in the morning was obviously Luo Binghe.

Lbh sneaks quietly to start Sqq's morning routine. He doesn't wake Sqq up, but waits for him to wake up on his own. Nevertheless Sqq hears him come and immediately, without needing to confirm it with his eyes, he knows it's Lbh. And when he does look at him...

But it was a very different Luo Binghe. He had changed into a set of white robes, and his dark hair was neatly bound with a light-colored ribbon. Furthermore, he was hurrying about the room with a relaxed and contented expression.

This is something we already know, Lbh wants to go back to the golden days and play the attentive disciple, not to manipulate Sqq but because he misses it so much, and it brings him comfort to fall back in that old learned routine of attending his Shizun. Now keep in mind that Sqq is watching him.

His current attire and appearance was exactly identical to the Luo Binghe from before the Immortal Alliance Conference: the model of a flawless and pure disciple of a major sect, the image of a pretty, diligent, and competent young wife, it really…really…was…

The crossed part is from the novel. These are thoughts that the narrator is trying to deny, presumably to himself: "the model of a flawless and pure disciple", "the image of a pretty, competent young wife"; these are the thoughts he wants to suppress, and after that we're left wondering what he's feeling; "it really was" what, sqq? Whatever he's feeling, it's something he doesn't tell us about. Maybe because his feelings are incomprehensible to even himself, or because he can't bear to face what's going through his mind and heart.

This is the Binghe he came to love as his disciple, the one he lived with for three years, the one he thinks "died" at the Immortal Alliance Conference. And he's left mentally speechless for a moment, maybe a few minutes, until Lbh turns and sees he's awake.

Luo Binghe turned. At the sight of Shen Qingqiu propping himself up on one arm, he reached out a hand and said, all smiles, “Shizun is awake? Breakfast is on the table.”

Shen Qingqiu put a hand on his forehead, but his body reacted by itself to take Luo Binghe’s hand and get off the bed.

Two things about this part: one, Sqq was "propped up in one arm" while he was staring at Lbh. I would love to get fanart of this, specially of the look on his face. And two: Sqq takes Binghe's hand to get out of bed. This doesn't seem to be anything new about their morning routine. It's so instinctive that he says his body "reacted by itself".

In a way, they're reenacting a scene from the past.

Then we finally get the explanation of why Sqq is ""letting himself"" act like this:

If he had to blame something, it would be that the scene before him was precisely the standard service he had received every morning back on Qing Jing Peak in days long past. The whole breadth of morning activities—getting up, getting dressed, washing, doing his hair, serving the meal, eating—was all naturally done under the auspice of Luo Binghe’s mindful service.

If the setting were changed to Qing Jing Peak’s Bamboo House, he really would have had the terrifying misconception that time was flowing backward!

If he "had to blame something", because of course it's not his own fault that he reacts like that to Lbh. It's not that he feels something about what's happening. What "terrifying misconception"? All the subtle hints points to nostalgia for the past, for their domestic life at the QJP bamboo house. He doesn't acknowledge it, not even to himself.

In a flash, Luo Binghe had gone to make his bed.

The devil incarnate, making his bed! This was too fantastical a vision; Shen Qingqiu didn’t dare watch.

Here's one of his tactics to distract himself (and the reader): change the topic, and compare the current Binghe to the image he has in his head: the demon lord, the "devil incarnate", the blackened protagonist. In a way he's also struggling with this incongruity, that the Binghe he knows personally is not the one he read about and was afraid of. And he's constantly comparing his Binghe to Bingge, and asking himself why his Binghe is acting like a "purehearted young man who serves tea, carries water, washes clothes, and folds blankets for someone, who bashfully speaks only when his back is turned". Because he still hasn't quite realized that Binghe and Bingge the Protagonist are two different people/characters, and in doing so it's like he tries to put distance between himself and Binghe, himself and his own feelings. But he's just delaying the inevitable. He can't run from them forever.

This is all just to state the obvious: Shen Qingqiu misses Luo Binghe, and he constantly avoids thinking about it. He misses him as viscerally as Binghe does, because he can't even "voice" what he thinks when he sees Binghe attending to him in the morning, and it's like a vision from the past, a mirage he has to avert his gaze from.

They're both pining on their own way, it's just that Sqq's pinning is hidden under layers of self-delusion and denial.

#zykamiliah posted this #svsss #sv reread #svsss meta #bingqiu #bingqiu meta #long post #zykamiliah-svsss

[lesbian-kyoru]

feeling incoherent about the last chapter of svsss vol 3 and particularly the sex scene—i knew Vaguely what to expect and was prepared but i was not prepared for how deeply? it would move me emotionally? the grotesque and painful nature of it was so perfectly suited to the story, and i love what it got across how excruciating and uncomfortable it is to be Known intimately by another person and submit yourself to being loved by them.

it's ultimately necessary and freeing to shen qingqiu to give himself up to that Ordeal, and the forced & ultimately fatal nature of it is what allows him to actually let himself want it. and for luo binghe, even without an awareness of what he's doing, it's very humanizing to be accepted so fully and wholly for the most uncontrolled, desperate, lonely version of himself. the line "luo binghe seemed to have found some small sense of security" really struck me, the juxtaposition between the recklessness paired with that gentle realization of safety.

the terror & discomfort of the scene don't feel undesired somehow, either physically or on an emotional level, like they're just an inevitable part of what it means for bingqiu to finally embrace each other—that the love is so strong that it's worth weathering the sheer intensity of it & being consumed by it. it all just felt like a super fitting microcosm of bingqiu's relationship of absolutely clawing and clinging to each other, despite the pain and insecurities it forces them to grapple with, both together and within themselves. it's all very bare and pink and bald-faced! gahhh!!!!

#svsss #bingqiu #luo binghe #shen qingqiu #mxtx #i haven't written meta in ages so i am just word vomitting #i am fucked up! #zoe.txt

[asha-mage]

Honestly it’s a good thing that SVSSS is a parody/comedy because if it was even 5% more serious in tone in would be a heart shattering drama. The kind of thing that you lay in bed after reading and just stare into the void because it has cut you somewhere deep inside with what it has to say about obsession and affection, about what makes a hero and a villain, about the voids we all fight to fill in our hearts, about how the cycle of abuse and pain can’t be broken with more violence, but rather with kindness and compassion and healing.

About how love is always a thousand little choices: the choice to stay, the choice to respect boundaries, the choice to trust someone with your ugliest parts, the choice to show kindness instead of contempt, the choice to soothe wounds that everyone else has ignored, the choice to be together no matter what.

SVSSS says all these things and so much more and it can say them because it puts it’s tongue in it’s cheek, and hides the sentiment behind parody. It’s not ashamed of that sentiment, rather it wants you to be uplifted rather then broken at the end of it, it wants you to have hope, to shine, and the only way to soften it’s edges is to make sure your laughing in between the tears.

#SVSSS #SVSSS Meta #the scum villain's self saving system #Luo Binghe #shen qingqiu #Bingqiu

[magicpotatothoughts]

I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD LUO BINGHE UNTIL NOW

Holy shit I was so swayed by SQQ’s POV that I honestly never truly understood LBH’s intentions until I read this line In Ch 2 (SVSSS Seven Seas)/Ch 13 at the demonic evasion arc:

When a person is affected with Without a Cure, starting from their wound, their spiritual flow becomes disconnected. This schism slowly spreads to their entire body. In the end, not only does their spiritual qi coagulate and stagnate, so does their blood."

So then when in Ch 6 (SVSSS SS)/Ch 34, LBH fed SQQ his blood and subsequently used his blood to seemingly "torment" SQQ during the water prison arc, all of this got me thinking....

What if everything LBH did with his demonic blood this entire time was to save SQQ from Without a Cure?

Like yes, he probably did have other intentions such as tracking him, making SQQ horrified at the fact that he has demon blood inside him when he hated demons so much but I honestly think the main reason LBH forced SQQ to drink his blood, and I would even go further as to say that his main motivation when he trained under Meng Mo, was not to become the “strongest” in the general sense but to heal SQQ. Hear me out. The first thought white lotus LBH has when SQQ got poisoned in Ch2/13 was

the demons had harmed his teacher to the point that he might be crippled—he might even lose his life. And all because of him.

LBH probably was a direct witness to how a whole team of Cang Qiong mountain peak lords needed to revolve around SQQ, with Mu Qingfang constantly providing prescriptions and LQG clearing his meridians and probably YQY hovering around SQQ dying with worries, to maintain his health post the SHL -demon evasion, he must have felt absolutely terrible about it! And that guilt literally haunted our bing-pup like he never once stopped thinking about it; no wonder he offered himself to take care of everything including the nutrition of SQQ's food, snaccs, water, small-big errands, and even wanted to pick that "Snow something Lotus" flower for Shizun! Without a Cure affecting SQQ was on LBH's mind ever since he was 15 and for all 3 years he was in the Endless Abyss.

This is absolutely evident when black lotus LBH returned and started to chase SQQ, SQQ's inner monologue was cursing how Without a Cure is stagnating his ability to coordinate and run, I am certain that LBH was not blind to just how much SQQ was struggling with that poison in his body. My theory was further confirmed when LBH finally caught up to SQQ:

“While Shen Qingqiu was still in the midst of confusion, Luo Binghe flipped his hand over. “You were infected?” .....“This hand of Shizun’s is plagued with misfortunes.”

Bruh, LBH may be giving the sadistic energy of an abandoned demonic child (thanks SQQ unreliable narrator) but here is clear evidence that the thing he was most worried about is SQQ's blood coagulating and him dying of demonic poison. What this tells me is that Without a Cure seemed to be activated and/or further exacerbated by other demonic poisons. LBH was also clearly still carrying the guilt of SQQ saving him with that hand! Following on immediately, what he did was 1) punch SQQ, then 2) says "An eye for an eye. Since Shizun sowed the seeds, he should reap the bitter fruit himself. Shizun should personally make up for himself" and 3) straight up fed SQQ his demonic blood.

White Lotus LBH never died. Both actions are for the benefit of SQQ, 1) I think he did this to get SQQ to cough up coagulated blood after SQQ was poisoned by that Jin Lan City sower and 3) LBH's quick return from Endless Abyss was so that he can feed Shizun his heavenly-blood to help cure him. I have reason to believe that LBH's demonic blood is the CURE to WITHOUT A CURE. Why else pay such specific attention to SQQ's hand out of literally any other body-part after a 3 year reunion?

But what I find most fascinating is 2) LBH’s words are nearly always laced with double meaning. “An eye for an eye” here isn’t necessarily just him blaming SQQ for kicking him and unlocking his demonic heritage but he wants to repay SQQ for taking on Without a Cure back then by giving him his demonic blood as a cure now. Another interpretation is that LBH deflected feeling the guilt of indirectly harming SQQ by verbally jabbing him. He tried to make SQQ feel guilty about tossing him into the Endless Abyss when he himself couldn't bare to think that his Shizun got hurt again on the same hand that saved him all those years ago. SQQ of course is an unreliable narrator and tricks us into thinking that LBH's actions matched his words when if we look closer, they're LITERALLY THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

Right after the reunion, SQQ "didn’t know how he made it back to the Jin Zi Weapons Shop," which has me believing that LBH must have been doing something to surpress SQQ's Without a Cure's effects with his demonic blood.

During the Water Prison arc, LBH seems like he is tormenting SQQ by demonic blood manipulation but if we really read carefully:

…strange sensation of something crawling inside his blood vessels....Luo Binghe said leisurely, “Spleen, kidneys, heart, lungs.” Though it wasn’t to the point of extraordinary anguish, it was still awful to suffer through.

Doesn't this sound like LBH trying to get the blood in SQQ flowing again to prevent coagulation after SQQ had been in presumably a seated position for a long time jailed in the Water prison? Once again, LBH's intentions behind his actions are the opposite of his words, he may be emotionally hurt by SQQ's silent response to him asking whether Shizun regrets kicking him down the Endless Abyss but his first and foremost concern is SQQ's health. This totally explains LBH's extremely low anger points! SQQ seemingly mistook LBH’s worry as anger! If SQQ asked the System for LBH's worrywart points, it would have been like ~the limit does not exist~. 🤯🤯🤯

Bruh, it’s so telling when Gongyi Xiao went to untie SQQ's immortal binding cables two days later when SQQ noted:

His spiritual energy was unmistakably back in operation and flowing smoothly. When he’d been imprisoned, he had been in the middle of a random Without a Cure flare-up, but after two days of being tied up by the immortal-binding cables, the poison had unexpectedly been suppressed again. Was this following the same principle as fighting fire with fire, or how two negatives make a positive?

No SQQ you oblivious gay, LBH was circulating your coagulating blood for you and suppressing the effects of your poison! We as readers can get so misled by SQQ constantly worrying about how Without a Cure randomly stops his spiritual powers that we forget about the actual main issue, blood stagnation and coagulation, which can absolutely kill him. Also, when SQQ escaped the Water Prison, LBH didn't try to manipulate the blood in SQQ's body because now he didn't need to, he’s done it already. He never wanted to do more than what was necessary for Shizun’s health. LBH tried to convince SQQ to come back when he could have used his powers. SQQ always had agency because LBH loves and respects him too much.

The next time SQQ got poisoned was by that sower who hid amongst the Huang Hua Palace disciples in Hua Yue city right before his self-detonation. He couldn't attack the sower with fire but then complained that it must have been Without a Cure that flared up again. Somehow, silly SQQ kept randomly getting himself poisoned so doesn’t it make sense that LBH keeps track of his Shizun so that his own demonic blood could notify him of any potential future SQQ demonic poisonings?

Bruh, the worrywart White-Lotus LBH never fucking died, SQQ ah SQQ you silly silly man. LBH has always been, even if he says hateful words, worried about you and your health and made it his top priority. What made LBH lose his mind though were

everytime LBH tries to save SQQ, SQQ thinks that he is using his demonic blood/demonic poison to do all these unfathomable things when using demonic poison is literally the last thing LBH would do because he has literal guilt trauma around it.

SQQ keeps calling LQG, GYX and literally anyone else to save him when LBH has been the one doing all the work.

Then we arrive at Xing Mo’s recoil exacerbating LBH’s insecurities.

“Shizun, look at what I’ve become. Am I strong enough? Do you know how I spent those years within the Endless Abyss? For three years underground, at all times and all moments, my mind thought only of Shizun. I wondered why Shizun would do this to me, why he refused to give me even a single chance to explain or plead my case.”

He did so much for Shizun’s health but never got a chance to explain why! And then when SQQ self-detonated, LBH thought:

Didn’t Shizun hate his blood more than anything? Wasn’t he unwilling to even be near him, to associate with him at all? So why, at the last moment, had he so gently helped to contain Luo Binghe’s mind, as tender as he had been in those years long past?

The blood here doesn't just have racist but literal connotations, LBH literally thought that SQQ hated the very demonic blood coursing through his veins, so that's why he kept forcing SQQ to drink it. LBH's every action, with me now looking back at all this evidence, is SO fricking justified. From his POV, isn't it more like SQQ is the constantly sick child throwing a tantrum about not wanting to drink bitter medicine? LBH, After all this effort of forcing himself to go through literal hell, training himself, chasing SQQ, imprisoning SQQ (LBH is giving Lan Wangji energy here) so that his Shizun can stop accidentally poisoning himself, SQQ somehow got put in harms way again but on top of that, died because of him. SQQ died whilst also restoring and reaffirming himself as the Shizun who had once been so good to him. 😭😭😭

All this absolute adds so much more weight as to why LBH was never ever going to let SQQ out of his sight ever again, as a corpse or alive, from that moment onwards.

#Im truly sorry if this was all incredibly obvious information for the rest of the fandom but my pea-sized brain exploded ok #svsss spoilers #svsss #svsss meta #bingqiu #luo binghe #shen qingqiu #shen yuan #scumbag system #scum villian self saving system #ren zha fanpai zijiu xitong #mxtx #mxtx svsss #svsss analysis

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The parallels between Bingqiu and Qijiu make me want to bite things

Younger party outsources morality to the older party

Idealises and looks up to the older one and is deeply emotionally attached to them and only them

Younger one experiences their own personal hell after being knowingly "abandoned" by the older one who knows they are in hell

Younger party escapes their hell but at a huge personal cost and with blood on their hands

Younger party has to do very morally questionable things to survive including learning to lie and act to play a required part

Reunited with the older party who does not explain why they left them in hell

Older party did not abandon younger party in hell by choice but was forced to by a power higher than them that they could not fight against

Younger party has an intense love/resentment situation with the older one because they don't understand their actions but they want to believe there was a reason

Younger party also experiences deep self loathing

Older party is wracked with guilt and wants to explain but physically can't

Older party doesn't understand the complexity of the younger party's emotions and feels they are just hated and that that hate is justified

Death of the older party is what truly destroys the younger party

Everything could be solved with talking an honest conversation and declaration of feelings

Older party too emotionally constipated to do that for far too long

I could really go on forever

I could also go into how, while not an exact match, Moshang also hits a lot of these

But really the parallels between the tragedy of Qijiu and the eventual Bingqiu is so much and it eats away at my brain

#svsss #svsss meta #bingqiu #qijiu #luo binghe #shen qingqiu #shen jiu #yue qingyuan