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Shocking! This Beautiful Man Fucked His Way into the Alderaanian Royal Family After His Smuggling Career Failed!

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Lord give me strength not to buy the General Hux Weiss Schwartz card

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I think it also has a lot to do with the nature of how the Empire became the First Order. The Empire was a slow burn of slowly trying to get everyone in the Galaxy to accept fascism, but that meant that there had to be hundreds of Moffs and Generals and high titled people dealing with hundreds of cultures. The power, while all concentrated around Palpatine, was still being diffused through the mechanic he came to power in (politics). Not every person in power was committed for the same reason, so their loyalty could be manipulated when building the New Republic.

The First Order is far, far smaller and is comprised of the most die-hard Imperial radicals. The most senior members were people who refused to give up in the face of imminent defeat, and each paid some kind of price like leaving their homeworlds, loss of station, humiliation (this would be physically painful for sociopaths). Armitage would have been well aware of horrible actions like Operation: Cinder, but it seems likely that the First Order elevated it as a means of purging the weak and unworthy. This way they could build a "better" organization that did not have people who would be swayed by other ideologies. Then importance and value within the First Order can be correlated with the use of violence against anyone not in the in-group. Armitage's self-aggrandizement stems from the fact that he can and will use every option for violence on a genocidal scale when so many others just gave up and let the New Republic take over. In this way, Hux himself becomes a purifier, destroying the mistakes and weakness of past Imperials; this would likely rot anyones brain away and destroy critical thought.

They never explain why General Hux “believes it’s his destiny to rule the galaxy.” He’s just some dweeb who killed his way to the top. His father was a nobody in the Empire- just some Imperial officer in an endless sea of Imperial officers. His mom was the office cleaning lady. He doesn’t come from the Skywalker family or anything like that. He’s a below average Imperial citizen if anything. There is nothing about him that would make him believe he was special.

#armitage hux #general hux #I want a full textbook on the First Order I want a docuseries #i know that people thought there was too much politics in the prequels but the sequels has none and it KILLS ME #my headcanons

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Kylo: I don't want to hurt anybody. I don't enjoy hurting anybody. I don't like guns or bombs or electric chairs, but sometimes people just won't listen and so I have to use persuasion, and slides. My parents, Sharon and Dave. Generous, doting, or were they? All I ever wanted was a Ballerina Barbie in her pretty pink tutu. My birthday, I was 10 and do you know what they got me? Malibu Barbie.

Phasma: Malibu Barbie

Hux: The nightmare.

Phasma: The nerve.

Kylo: That's not what I wanted, that's not who I was. I was a ballerina. Graceful. Delicate. They had to go. 

#the addams family #armitage hux #star wars #kylo ren #Phasma #not accepting questions at this time #barbie

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This is a great take. Like, nepo baby Kylo/Ben would be the more snobbish of the triumvirate (wealthy parents, calligraphy, etc). Meanwhile, Hux is running around the unknown regions and dodging space cops his entire childhood, trying to figure out where to get food and other resources.

Someone probably mixed up their cellphones (datapads?) at some point because Kylo would always have the latest model in a designer case and it looks pristine (because he just gets a new one every 2 weeks after throwing it at someone), while Hux would have some a 10 year old jailbroken one with anti-Republic stickers on the back.

Kylo: I can’t find Hux anywhere!

Phasma: Don’t worry, I got this.

Phasma: THE CLASS DISPARITY BETWEEN THE GALACTIC CORE AND THE OUTER RIM ISN’T THAT BIG A DEAL!

Hux, kicking the door in: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL–

#kyluxish? #armitage hux #kylo Ren #captain Phasma #idk I just have a soft spot for the weird role reversal that was underexplored #like #phasma and Hux being children of war is more reminiscent of so many who were part of the rebellion #young people like Poe in the resistance grew up in peace

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Hux: I am about to lose my mind!

Peavey: Frankly, I’m surprised you have any left to lose at this point.

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There’s a quote from Brian David Gilbert from a video about Bowser that goes a “... military that is somewhat bloated, often antagonistic, and seems to be the only thing that the leadership cares about funding?” which describes the FO pretty well and identifies why people like Hux would struggle within it. If your skillset is essential to Military activity, it will be rewarded somewhat, but not in a way that actually recognizes any skills or values that could challenge the dominance of the Military. 

Armitage Hux is, canonically, hyper intelligent and a good engineer. He built Starkiller, miniaturized Death Star tech, and invented hyperspace tracking within a very short window of time while also acting as a General. 1 of those would be a significant achievement in the Star Wars universe, and would have earned him a lot more recognition from the ship/weaponry community than what he got from Kylo or Snoke. I’m willing to bet he was also really good at project management and supply lines (building and moving materials around in enemy territory in the months leading up to Starkiller should have been nightmarish) and other development tasks that are paramount to these achievements. But he is just not as good in direct combat situations. He only uses physical force via his weapons and primarily uses subterfuge to achieve his goals, but this is not how the other 99% of the army could or should fight. This creates a paradox where he has to have authority (General position) in the FO because he is deeply necessary, but he also needs to be ridiculed because by the very nature of his work he challenges the dominant narrative. He makes people think about what they could be doing if they weren’t fighting the New Republic every 5 minutes.

Hux, by all accounts, should never have been a General from an operations perspective. He should have been Galen Erso, in a lab on a moon away from conflict. But the First Order can’t have any civilian-like members, because they only value military. So he gets trapped in the middle of this tension. 

If he’d been taken away from his terrible Father before his teens, he probably would have just grown up to be a weird University professor who illegally mods ships and frames someone else when the police show up.

Something that strikes me while reading the sequel novelizations (let's face it, 100% because I'll take any Hux content I can get my pathetic fingers on) is that Armitage seems like he probably has a very rich inner fantasy. Of course, we don't get too in depth into any of this, but he obviously has some elaborate fantasies about getting revenge on those who wronged him or envisioning himself in possessions of greater power. There is even a remark that he has to make a mental effort not to fantasize at a particular moment that he wants to because he knows his thoughts will likely be read.

He is also annoyed/fearful of masks and generally dislikes not being able to see people. On the bridge, he looks around to try and get some gauge of how the officers around him feel, and it makes him uneasy because they all have expressionless faces. Hux is withholding of information from his reports to Pryde because he needs to see Pryd's reaction to certain news.

A lot of what he does is deliberately crafted to give the appearance of power and to hide his anxiety and insecurity. I think the fantasy helps him survive, because really, there is no escape for Armitage, and he never had a choice in this.

The old Imperial officers around him, like Peevy and Canady, know that he is not cut out for this, that he is in over his head, and won't last.

I wonder how differently he would have turned out if he hadn't been isolated and forced into something he clearly wasn't cut out for. He is smart enough to make it this far, but it cost him everything.

He did do a lot of awful stuff, but I'd REALLY like to see him given a chance to get away from the First Order and make his own way. Even if it is a life of hiding. I know it's too much to ask for, but a girl can dream.

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old shitpost animatic I did with the space twins HAN IS SO DONE BTW

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I would imagine that Hux's also probably not the best at verbalizing what he wants to people, so there probably a lot of him just pushing food around on his plate if he doesn't like it at first. Like, individuality is new to anyone who leaves the First Order, so he'd have a harder time explicitly stating likes and dislikes on a technical and emotional level.

So there is probably a window of time where Finn, the resident psychic and highly aware of how the FO messes with your self confidence, is the only person who is aware how unhappy this is actually making Hux. Like, Finn would probably get progressively worn out from listening to the internal monolog of 'I don't like this texture, this hurts my mouth, why does this smell like this, how do I even eat this?' Until he'd eventually start stepping in with the "Excuse me, he asked for no pickles".

I just had the dumbest thought.

What if Hux, after a lifetime of eating nothing but ration bars and whatever synth-"food" they serve on Star Destroyers, actually develops the palate of a toddler after getting rescued by the Resistance.

As in, he eats nothing but pasta without sauce, chicken nuggets, etc. while spurning anything that can be considered healthy. Oh, and tons of sugary, sweet things too ofc.

It wouldn't fit at all with the image he wants to portray of being cultured and sophisticated, and it just amuses me so much.

#i will forever resent that Finn didnt get that stormtrooper rebellion arc #I sant more meta text on how the First Order impacted people who grew up in it #people in the Order had no family except the Order I want to see them act like a family sometimes sue me #i think that if Hux betrays the order #i should be used to support Finns arc #general hux #armitage hux #Finn #first order #Finn would probably push Hux to start saying what he actually wants but probably needs to demonstrate how you voice that first

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commission 

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Hux: Well, you know what they say; go big, or go home!

Peavey: Please go home, general. For once in your life, please just go home.

Hux: I’M GONNA GO BIG.

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I could see Hux as a lightning force user but he NEVER uses it because, as an engineer, it would run the risk of frying his work. Like, it could overload his comms, his datapad, or even the ship he is on. He probably worked on Starkiller and hyper space tracking on digital devices, and he is too pragmatic to risk destroying his work. So he just never uses his one major physical ability.

i know that hux isn’t a force user, but i can’t stop thinking about what he would be like if he were one.

he isn’t nearly as powerful as snoke or kylo, but where he lacks in raw strength and power he makes up for with finesse and deadly precision. both with the force itself and with a lightsaber (i feel like he would favour form ii)

he also has immense mental skill with the force more-so than physical. he is impeccably skilled with mind tricks and can influence/manipulate just about any mind he wants, and has completely shielded his own mind from being tricked and peered into. not even kylo can read his most surface level thoughts and emotions.

speaking of kylo, they also have a force bond, but it’s pretty weird. instead of the force attracting them to one another, they repel each other like two similarly charged ends of a magnet. kylo is completely immune to hux’s mind tricks, and he can’t peer into hux’s thoughts. they also can’t sense each other and are essentially voids in the force to one another.

#i dont think Kylo has access to Force Lightning #so this would drive him mad #love the idea of his and Kylo’s hatred for each other manifesting like that #armitage hux #kylo ren

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Does Star Wars have Barbie? Even if she's called something like Borby, is there a popular intergalactic doll? Does she have a nerf hearding outfit? A Mechanic outfit? She definitely has a Naboo outfit. Outlander Club (Smuggler) Ken was the best-selling version of the doll even though they pulled him immediately. Did she have like, an Imperial Era where she was wearing the uniform and came with a Dream Destroyer? Then, when the New Republic came in, did she switch side a la Iden Version and start wearing Rebel jumpsuits and flying x-wings. The original Clone Wars Barbies must go for thousands of credits at auctions.

#barbie #the barbie movie has me asking the real questions #which star wars characters owned barbies growing up? #barbie isn't a doll she is any doll that has the vibe #you know Coruscant and Naboo have fashion dolls so where are they? #star wars

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I agree with a lot of the worry about how some of the changes being made with Brendol (turning from a Military leader to more of a geneticist), and Armitages age potentially being tweaked. It confuse me on multiple points, and IDK if they can stick the landing on it.

That being said, I do think that it would be a tinsy bit funny if the new reason Brendol hates Armitage is because he meant to make the perfect soldier but instead ended up with some nerd. Like, Brendol ate dirt, but his results are still being studied/used, so he can't just pretend Armitage doesn't exist. All the other officers would laugh at Brendol and his cringe-fail clone science fair experiment.

#to be clear i dont want disney to do this #i am also very worried about how disney is going to handle concepts like child abuse #general hux #star wars #mandalorian spoilers #brendol hux #why would Brendol care about Phasma/Cardinal if they werent clones now like is he a scientist or general

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Hux: [pulls a knife out of his sleeve]

Cardinal: How many knives do you have?

Hux: [pulls out several more] How many do you need?

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Yes, yes Brendol Hux and whatever but when are we getting Grand Admiral Sloane and little Armitage? When do we get to see her build her Empire while shaping her young protégé, who ultimately loses his way upon her disappearance/demise?

It’s obvious by the end of Aftermath that Rae Sloane has begun to grow attached to Armitage. Despite their rocky beginning she did protect him from Brendol. So I would not be surprised if Sloane was responsible for his rise in the First Order. ( And I’ll explain why. But first, some context: ) What better way to create a revised version of the Empire than with a genius child who can develop technology that will pull a broken organization from that ashes? We know from the Phasma novel that Sloane is gone by 30 ABY. ( Cardinal mentions her and Armitage defensively retorts that she is not around). But Cardinal also mentions that Brendol was preparing for a meeting with Grand Admiral Sloane and the first set of First Order leaders on the day he gives Cardinal his new title as Captain. That signifies that Sloane was still around and in command of the First Order after it became a more established organization. So she did not die while they were still forming the First Order in the unknown regions. That also means that she was around while Armitage was at the Academy and rising through the ranks as an officer. Which clarifies a lot of his contradicting beliefs. 

When I say contradicting beliefs I mean the disparity between Armitage’s  desire to rise and thus buy into Snoke’s ideals of what the First Order is ( after Snoke becomes Supreme leader and supersedes the apparent first group of leaders including Grand Admiral Sloane ) versus Sloane’s original beliefs of what she thought her new revised Empire should comprise of. This is honestly what makes Armitage Hux such an interesting character to me. 

Snoke’s outlook obviously entails the destruction of worlds and ruling by force. The First Order is a tool for his dark agenda. It helps him keep his stronghold over the galaxy and gives him the firepower to secure his reign and further his own goals. Armitage Hux’s pride in the completion of Starkiller and his many other projects, along with his attempts to keep a strong grasp on the power he has attained, displays him buying into these beliefs. I think that part is rather evident and widely accepted. But then there is the other facet of Armitage. The part that still clings to ideals that are similar to Sloane’s beliefs of the version of the Empire she wanted to create.

You can see that here in Hux’s internal monologue, featured in The Last Jedi novelization, by Jason Fry

But Hux knew the future would need a different kind of leader—one able to direct the galaxy’s industries and nurture their innovations, while commanding its citizens’ respect. Snoke wasn’t that leader. And neither was Ren.

Versus Sloane’s inner monologue during Aftermath: Lift Debt by Chuck Wendig:

Slavery has never been part of the perfect Empire that lives inside her head. It may have been necessary for a time, but now the galaxy should be made to see the Empire’s glory—and you can’t teach them of its splendor through slavery. Slavery is not strength; it is weakness. Citizens should serve the Empire because it is right to do so. Why would any choose otherwise?

The idea that citizens should server the Empire/First Order because it’s the right thing to do is common between them both. For context, Sloane came from a gang infested world that the Empire helped clean up. So her outlook on Imperial occupation is positive & her idea of a perfect Empire was one that promoted order and peace with necessary force. She grew disillusioned with Palpatine’s version of the Empire which used uncessary force and had cult-like attributes. ( Disclaimer: This is not a commentary stating that Sloane’s ideas are right. Sloane is still very much a villain. Just with a moral code. Despite how convoluted her moral code is. The First Order is still clearly still a bad organization. )

Now consider the fact that Armitage Hux tried to talk Snoke out of firing Starkiller a second time because he was afraid of eliminating occupied planets that were not involved in the war…

Snoke replied with cold satisfaction. “We do not need it. Prepare the weapon. Destroy their system.” Collected and composed as he was, Hux was not immune to surprise. “The system? Supreme Leader, according to the most recent galographics, at least two and possibly three habitable worlds circle Ileenium. Following the destruction of the Hosnian worlds, would it not be worthwhile simply to destroy their base and claim the remainder for the Order?

-The Force Awakens novelization, by Jason Fry,

The attack on Hosnian Prime was a political power play. Armitage considers the action a necessary act of war but he was taken aback when Snoke ordered him to fire on potentially uninvolved system in lieu of just taking out the Resistance base. Like Sloane, his moral code is corrupted, but still present.

And then we have this scene of Hux refuting Ren from The Force Awakens novelization…

“Again, this map. Which for all I know may or may not even exist.”

Ren’s voice darkened to a degree that caused Phasma to take a step backward. “I do not think I care for your implication, General. You would be wise to keep such thoughts to yourself. You would be wise not to think them.”

Hux held his ground. “My duty is to fight for the First Order with every iota of information, every scrap of material, and every functioning trooper at my command. That was in the oath I took. That is the oath I have sworn to uphold.”

Yes, Hux is serving Snoke’s First Order at this point in the timeline but take a moment to consider how risky this declaration is. Kylo may have a personal interest in finding and destroying Luke but we are also aware that Snoke tasked Kylo with this mission. So Hux’s skepticism almost implies that his loyalty to the First Order is beyond his loyalty to Snoke.

Anyway, than you for enduring this long post. My ultimate point was that Hux is a really intriguing character because he is a culmination of Brendol’s cruelty and Sloane’s idealism. He is selfish and power hungry, but he also has a genuine interest in building and organization that promotes order through, centralized control, innovation and ( his version of ) respect. It’s fascinating to see his own moral and internal struggle play out. And I really hope we see more of this development play out in his youth through further storylines.