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Izaya does not have ASPD.

He is certainly neuro divergent.

He's definitely traumatized. And I don't mean the Shizuo trauma, I mean childhood trauma.

It's incredibly easy to make a case for him having C-PTSD but it's practically impossible to determine if that's all that's going on. There could easily be a personality disorder or autism in the mix.

Yet, I'm sure it's not ASPD.

If you're reading this I assume you've already read somebody make a case for why he does have ASPD, so I'm not going to extend on the diagnostic criteria, but essentially important is that it is definitely possible to make a convincing and well argumented case for him having it. He does display various signs and fulfills enough criteria to get the diagnosis from an inexperienced therapist for sure.

However, he's missing one that's very critical to the disorder, pretty much at the core of what makes it different from the other cluster B disorders, since a lot of the other symptoms are shared.

- Lack of remorse

Izaya shows remorse. Izaya regrets his actions, Izaya does not enjoy the way people end up hurt because of him. It's shown more clearly in the Novels, especially the ever famous 9th novel, but it's shown in the anime too, it's just incredibly subtle. Yet you can see it clearly if you watch for the timing of his expression changes, and analyze when he uses which tone of voice. Izaya also clearly hides it, since after all, in his position it pays to be immune to such things. You don't deal with experienced and dangerous Yakuza with your belly up, that much should be obvious.

He however shows a strong sense of justice... It's just a hopeless mismatch compared to what people typically see as 'just'.

Additonally the whole suicide girls thing is often used as an example of why he's remorseless. It's true he didn't feel remorse for doing that, but why would he? These actions didn't actually hurt anyone, they didn't actually have negative consequences for those girls at all. They're all alive and well. (Remember, the whole Rio thing is NOT canon)

"But it's a mean thing to do!"

Maybe, but he does it out of compassion for those who in his eyes deserve the pity that these, in his eyes undeserving, girls are asking for. Izaya does not regret that compassion. Not regretting compassion sounds healthy to me!

- there's also several points about not caring for or bothering with social norms.

This is a standard for anyone who has an IQ outside the normal range. People with an extremely low IQ are not capable of understanding the social norms, and people with an extremely high IQ can see past the superficial reasoning and end up creating their own value system, which is generally very well argumented and reasonable, which they measure their actions against instead of the common norms. And of course those values are shaped by life (childhood) experiences as well. Therefore it's impossible to use these points as proper diagnostic criteria, without first figuring out what the new norms are. A good institute can do that, but a single therapist typically cannot either, nevermind some backyard psychology nerd like most of us here!

I feel like I didn't quite explain this well enough but sadly i don't have time to write a proper essay, so feel free to ask questions and I'll get to it when I can!

#durarara #izaya orihara #orihara izaya

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I'm alive, barely, but I am. one day I'll have the energy to analyze again... I hope.

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Help, I’ve fallen back into DRRR fandom after 7+ years and cannot get up. 

Anyway, I’ve been listening to Ghost City Tokyo on repeat and it fits Izaya so well I had to make an art for it :)) Someone please make an Izaya cover!

#Yes I'm alive and I will continue analyzing #Just struggling with life a bit right now #sorry guys #izaya fanart

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Not only did this man get stabbed on his birthday, but no one even cared…damn, double homicide 😔

#canon #art #incorrect quote

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Art by EroMkk

Posted with Permission (reprint/edit and/or commercial use prohibited)

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haven’t visited this fandom for yrs, so glad i found this page. i’ve been asking this forever, what is izaya’s relationship with women?? does he think they’re attractive and so on?? does he have the tendency to be the man and protect them?

To Izaya personally there's no difference between a woman and a man beyond the physical. He's generally aware of things such as how it's relatively easy for him to overpower most woman and how that makes it rather unfair to get into physical alterations and such. He also plays with the societal expectations like 'don't hit girls' and may do 'gentlemanly' things like holding a door open and offering a chair and stuff like that, but this is intended to show off, or make an impression as part of his masking rather than being a personal vallue he follows. Izaya does have an appreciation for beautifull things, and that includes his humans; he remarks at several points how certain people are cute or attractive, but this too does not appear to be limited to women. I don't know if this appreciation is sexual in nature, and personally think it's an easthetic attraction, not much more than an acknowledgement of beauty. I don't think Izaya has outward romantic feelings to anyone really, and if I had to give it a name I'd put him on the Aromantic spectrum.

As for wether Izaya tends to be 'the man', I'm gonna say no. If he IS going to be in a relationship, it would be with somebody who can match him, and it would be a equalitarian dynamic. He surrounds himself with people who would never give in to him and I believe that to be a deeply rooted prefference. Izaya likes controll, and is capable and reliable, but he'd require the same effort from his partner. He should also be able to rely on them and they should be capable of being in controll as well. If anything, he needs somebody he can relax and let his guard down with, and that's not possible in the sort of dynamic where he'd always 'be the man' in the classic sense.

#Iza was asked #Orihara Izaya #Izaya Orihara #Durarara #durarara!! #drrr #drrr!! #Sorry for the prolonged absense #I'm done with book three #but I'm still writing the analyses of the last chapters #they're coming soon >.<

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It could be a mistranslation of course, but personally, I think it's about their mentality, or their perception of self.

Masaomi, although he acknowledges that he's still young and has much to learn, considers himself the yellow scarves' boss first off all, and the other characters agree; he's been making the kind of choices normally reserved for adults for years now. The book is also mostly about the trouble brewing with yellow scarves, so 'boss' is his most prominent role in this particular instalment.

Mikado, although he's the founder of the dollars, is not technically a boss, since he's not really leading anyone at this point. And besides, he's still very naive and quite short sighted, almost willfully unaware of what his friends are up to.

Horada is lacks any kind of naivety and is obvious scum so no doubt man fits him better then boy, even though I think he's a little younger than Izaya?

And that leaves Izaya himself. Naive would certainly be a mismatch for his character, but he does have an extremely juvenile mindset, to the point where multiple characters refer to him as a kid in later books. He's the kid who's poking the beehive after all, right? Personally I wouldn't refer to him as a man either... I think he's best identified as a disaster 🤣

So this is the blurb of book 3, and I just wanted to note how Narita (or the translator) refers to the characters here;

Masaomi: a boss

Mikado: a boy

Horada: a man

Izaya: a boy

#orihara izaya #ryuugamine mikado #kida masaomi #reblog

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So this is the blurb of book 3, and I just wanted to note how Narita (or the translator) refers to the characters here;

Masaomi: a boss

Mikado: a boy

Horada: a man

Izaya: a boy

#drrr!! #durarara!! #drrr #durarara #izaya orihara #masaomi kida #mikado ryuugamine #drrr horada

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Reblogging because I literally forgot to include this bit despite implying it... (T^T")b

I do insist he'd throw water at Shinra though- Just not on his face. Being dicks to each other is part of their friend dynamic after all.

would izaya be the type to leave his friends, or the people he works with, unconscious? like, if they suddenly passed out, would he ignore it and walk away? somebody made a joke abt that and it got me thinking. he does kind of sound like that type LOL

How mean! ..... That said, he might just do so tbh. So here goes answering this way more seriously than is probably neccesairy!

It really depends on who, and under what circumstances. Izaya hates relying on people; even shinra, so I'm very sure he has basic medical knowledge. He'd know how to check a pulse, and what position to lay somebody in and such. So.... When it comes to his friends.... Well there's not many so I'll just go over them.

Shinra- If he's in a save place, like his house or something, he'd check him over and attempt to wake him up. Probably by kicking him or tipping a glass of water. If that doesn't work he'd probably just message celty and leave. - If it's unsafe, like outdoors, he'd do the same, but he'd actually call Celty and explain the situation, and then wait for her to arrive. If he can't reach or for some reason can't count on her, he'd probably call an actual ambulance? He wouldn't stick around for it to arrive in that case though.

Namie - There's no way he'd leave her. He'd carry her home or take a taxi/ car directly to shinra. At least in the later books, in the early ones their bond is still fragile so he really might just walk away to avoid the trouble.

Shizuo - Not exactly a friend but some reason Izaya keeps mentioning him whenever friendships are talked about so I'll just include him. Shizuo doesn't even get a check up. He just gets jumped on and laughed at. If Izaya is in a particularly vicious mood he might even stab him a couple of times and allert the various gangs of an easy target before leaving.

The twins - Family counts right? If that happens Izaya is probably spending half of his brain trying to supress the panic and the other half is busy figuring out wether it's faster to go to shinra or the hospital and if either is worth the risk.

Kine and Mikage he'd probably call an emergency contact for, but wouldn't be overly concerned otherwise. After all, they're tough. The caring role or more theirs than his.

Manami... I honestly don't know. I don't think he'd risk her dying for no reason because he wants to see what more she's going to do next with the life she originally wanted to give up. I don't think he particularly cares for her, but I think he'd still call somebody else to take her to a safe place.

The rest of the poeple he works with I really don't think he gives a shit about. Any dragon zombie members, the russians, Izumii, Haruna- They'd be left behind and the only thought spend would be on how to change his plans. If it happened to an Awakusu member I think Izaya would be preoccupied with proving that it wasn't somehow his fault, so there's no space for caring there.

As you may notice in almost all conceivable cases... He's not likely to stick around even if he does care.

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would izaya be the type to leave his friends, or the people he works with, unconscious? like, if they suddenly passed out, would he ignore it and walk away? somebody made a joke abt that and it got me thinking. he does kind of sound like that type LOL

How mean! ..... That said, he might just do so tbh. So here goes answering this way more seriously than is probably neccesairy!

It really depends on who, and under what circumstances. Izaya hates relying on people; even shinra, so I'm very sure he has basic medical knowledge. He'd know how to check a pulse, and what position to lay somebody in and such. So.... When it comes to his friends.... Well there's not many so I'll just go over them.

Shinra- If he's in a save place, like his house or something, he'd check him over and attempt to wake him up. Probably by kicking him or tipping a glass of water. If that doesn't work he'd probably just message celty and leave. - If it's unsafe, like outdoors, he'd do the same, but he'd actually call Celty and explain the situation, and then wait for her to arrive. If he can't reach or for some reason can't count on her, he'd probably call an actual ambulance? He wouldn't stick around for it to arrive in that case though.

Namie - There's no way he'd leave her. He'd carry her home or take a taxi/ car directly to shinra. At least in the later books, in the early ones their bond is still fragile so he really might just walk away to avoid the trouble.

Shizuo - Not exactly a friend but some reason Izaya keeps mentioning him whenever friendships are talked about so I'll just include him. Shizuo doesn't even get a check up. He just gets jumped on and laughed at. If Izaya is in a particularly vicious mood he might even stab him a couple of times and allert the various gangs of an easy target before leaving.

The twins - Family counts right? If that happens Izaya is probably spending half of his brain trying to supress the panic and the other half is busy figuring out wether it's faster to go to shinra or the hospital and if either is worth the risk.

Kine and Mikage he'd probably call an emergency contact for, but wouldn't be overly concerned otherwise. After all, they're tough. The caring role or more theirs than his.

Manami... I honestly don't know. I don't think he'd risk her dying for no reason because he wants to see what more she's going to do next with the life she originally wanted to give up. I don't think he particularly cares for her, but I think he'd still call somebody else to take her to a safe place.

The rest of the poeple he works with I really don't think he gives a shit about. Any dragon zombie members, the russians, Izumii, Haruna- They'd be left behind and the only thought spend would be on how to change his plans. If it happened to an Awakusu member I think Izaya would be preoccupied with proving that it wasn't somehow his fault, so there's no space for caring there.

As you may notice in almost all conceivable cases... He's not likely to stick around even if he does care.

#Iza was asked #I feel meh about this one #but I did my best #orihara izaya #izaya orihara #durarara #drrr!!

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What is Izaya’s relationship with children? How would he behave in front of a young child? I’m curious.

To the common perception, Izaya would seem a little off with children, since he doesn't really see them much different from other people. They're just small, young humans to him, so he treats them as humans.

That mostly means that he expects more responsibility from children, as compared to most adults. He considders children capable of making decisions, at least for themselves if not for others, and he therefore also respects them more than your average adult would.

However, if doing so, Izaya can actually be very nurturing. He's a natural teacher and enjoys sharing his knowledge, so no matter how often he's asked "how" or "why", he's always happy to answer. He'll do so honestly though, even if the topic might not be considdered suitable for children generally.

He IS aware that children have different limitations from adults, and is more patient with them, and also doesn't test them the way he does with adults. However, to Izaya anyone past grade school is closer to an adult than a child, and he will expect teenagers to take responsibility for their own actions. With actual children, he's much more gentle, willing to take their actions as the consequence of circumstances.

When it comes to really young children, like babies and toddlers, I think Izaya has a tendency to avoid them because they're confusing and lack logic. But also because they'd likely remind them of his sister who'm he had to take care of while he was still far too young to do so himself. I don't think he particularly wants to remember that experience.

If under some weird circumstance Izaya was put in a position where a very young child actually relies on him though, I think he'd make a weird, but surprizingly good father?!?! His moodswings and lack of self-assurance might affect the kid negatively, but if anyone is capable of true unconditional love, it's Izaya, and the kid would be surounded by it. They'd never be ignored or treated unfairly and be encouraged to discover themselves without judgement.

-This is litterally just head canons and personal opinions, plz don't kill me-

#Iza was asked #izaya orihara #orihara izaya #durarara #drrr!! #drrr #durarara!!

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Been awhile since i got back to the drrr fandom again

One of the questions that i always have has gotta be about izaya's rings

Are his rings just for aesthetic purposes? Or do they have a different purpose/meaning?

Unfortunately, the only real answer is that it's unknown. His rings are never specifically mentioned in the books (as far as I've read), so in truth it was likely a design choice by the artist, just like the fur trim.

However, he does not wear them in high school, they only appear on adult Izaya, which leads me to believe it may have something to do with the Awakusu, or his involvement in the underground world in general. He also does not appear to wear them in most official art that features alternative clothes, so they're likely part of his work outfit somehow.

A quick search also told me that rings on the index fingers have te following meanings: "A ring on the index finger on the active hand reflects confidence, self-esteem, and leadership qualities. At the same time, wearing a finger ring on the index finger of the passive hand indicates acceptance of leadership from people around." I think that fits rather well with the idea that he wears it for it's meaning to his position and work.

Alternative I like to think he has his sisters names inscribed in them, but that's just a cute little headcanon, and has absolutely no canon backing.

#Iza was asked #orihara izaya #izaya orihara #drrr!! #durarara!! #drrr #durarara

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twt

what if izaya loves to get hurt cause it means his special doctor friend will notice him :(

#art #shinzaya kinda #I'm reblogging it anyway #because it's pretty canon even if not romantic #shinra is obviously his favorite person esp. in school

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It is time for Shizuo to get shot! So let's take a look at a couple of interactions.

Starting of with Tom being unable to correct the way Shizuo addresses him deal despite being a senior both in age and on the job, because Shizuo absolutely will go off on him if he makes a mistake in handling the dude. Yikes.

Also.... Car? The anime had me honestly convinced they did most collection on foot but I guess they actually cover a pretty large area! Ikebukurou isn't that big though....

Shizuo and Tom know enough about the Yellow Scarves to know that having in creepy back alleys is not really their style. And for all that Tom is clearly scared of Shizuo, he does also deeply trust the man to keep him safe without question. That's certainly something at least.

Considering that at this point, he wasn't planning to actually use his gun, this guy clearly has a death wish... Or just genuinely doesn't know about Shizuo- somehow.

What they do know is his actual job, and even his hours as well as what who and what he works for, which is certainly quite suspicious! Did Izaya tell them? It's certainly possible that they bought this info from him, but their plan to attack Shizuo is their own. A misguided revenge mission based on the perceived superiority of possessing a gun. It could also be somebody else they got their information from. Shinichi (seemingly) appeared in the intro, and though Aoba has not made an appearance yet, he was revealed to have been active in the scene during middle school, and he's currently in his final year. He also already has a connection with the blue squares- it could well be that he kept the ropes in hand in the background after his brother was jailed.

In the end Izaya is still the most likely suspect, but he usually refuses to sell information of Shizuo, so it would be at least a little out of character for him. It's possible though that he is rushing things along to ride the accelerated tide that Masaomi set.

Shizuo is genuinely scary. It's easy to forget when he's such a laid back character in every other way... But just imagine being on the receiving end of this barrage. And the worst is, even in the middle of it, he has this really calm way of talking, which must be incredibly confusing for his opponents.

While kicking some poor fool in the crotch, Tom, one of the few people not outright afraid of Shizuo, and fairly close in terms of friendship, is actually convinced the brute might really kill somebody here. And remember, all this is after the confrontation with Saika where Shizuo supposedly learned to control himself... Yeah he didn't.

Nobody can break a bad habit or learn to control themselves that fast or that easily. And Shizuo doesn't even seem to be trying.

Maybe he wouldn't end up with multiple bullets in his chest if he had. At least Tom is around to help him out, which I don't remember being a thing in the anime.

#drrr!! #durarara!! #drrr #durarara #heiwajima shizuo #shizuo heiwajima #tom tanaka #tanaka tom #orihara izaya

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What is Izaya’s relationship with Namie? Can it improve?

In book 3, which I'm currently reading, Izaya and Namie are not yet very close, but they are in the process of building real trust towards one another.

Namie is still scared of Izaya, and she's not wrong to be! Izaya is a very powerful individual at a very young age. He has the capacity to do things most people wouldn't, and probably shouldn't. Her life is literally in his hands; he knows everything about her and her situation, and her greatest asset and trump card (Celty's head) is in Izaya's possession.

But Izaya never abuses that power. He keeps his promise perfectly; he arranges hotels and eventually whole apartments for Namie, keeps her moving and off anyone's radar, and pays her incredibly, ridiculously well even after all that. Thus Izaya proves to her that he's reliable and remarkably trust worthy... So long as you're on his side.

On top of that she'll eventually start seeing more and more of who he actually is. And Izaya is a lot of things, but the side Namie gets to see, working so closely with him is very different from the seemingly cold and careless asshole act that a lot of the other characters see. She gets to know a guy who's defined mainly by his intelligence, who is full of childish curiosity and excitement, and who is deeply hurt by the rejection he faces from just about everyone.

Jealousy and anger aren't good traits, but Namie finds herself in a position from which she can see their cause; and she can understand it. At first she refuses to feel sorry for him, still convinced he deserves it. She never really gets past that opinion; after all Izaya did make his own choices leading to this situation; but she can see the rift between who he is and what he pretends to be. Namie is one of the few characters (the others being Mikage, possibly Kine and Shinra) who actually understands that Izaya genuinely cares for the people he plays with. Between that and the slow transition from fear into respect, she comes to care for him, even if she'd probably never admit it out loud.

On Izaya's side, something similar happens. From the start, he sees Namie as a highly skilled, intelligent and capable woman, with her love for her brother being her one big flaw (which he does find pretty creepy). He probably figures such a flaw makes her easy to manipulate, but in reality, all he actually does with it is tease her. He seems to actually hold out on info regarding her brother, almost as if he's trying to encourage her to let go of that madness. But on the other hand, he can't help but admire her single minded devotion when she doesn't, and continues to chase her little brother.

At the same time she proves to be an invaluable asset to him. Namie is capable, professional and adaptable, she can do her job without letting feelings get in the way, and she becomes somebody that Izaya can actively rely on. Which is not something he's used to, and it certainly puts her in a special position, especially combined with the sheer amount of time they spend together. Especially when she starts occasionally giving in to his more domestic demands, I can't help but think she's found a special place in his little heart. Izaya isn't used to being cared for, and sometimes... That's just what Namie does.

Unfortunately Namie does in the end get caught up in a mess as she goes after Mika, leaving Izaya behind, but this may have been planned or agreed to, because Izaya does not appear to feel betrayed. In fact Namie is one of the extremely few people that he actually contacts after his disappearance, and tells about his work in Kanto; which implies both an incredible amount of trust (by his standards) and a strong bond.

I think at the end of the series, Namie is Izaya's real best friend, despite him still only naming Shinra as such.

I'd say there's absolutely a possibility that they were more than friends, but even then I can't see their feelings as being especially romantic in nature. They're definitely not in love, but I can see them in a relationship of convenience and comfort.

#iza was asked #orihara izaya #izaya orihara #yagiri namie #namie yagiri #IzaNamie #??? #durarara!! #drrr!! #drrr #durarara

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Would Izaya be the type of person to save a girl being cornered by gang members in alleyway, or would he just mind his business?

For Izaya both the girl and the gang members have equal value as human beings. He appears to dislike bullying, but because Izaya is deeply aware of the potential of deeper motivations in such a case, I think that alone wouldn't be enough reason for him to interfere.

If he knows the girl, if he has any kind of interest in her, even if it's a really minor, he'll save her without hesitation.

However, if he doesn't know the girl, he's more likely to observe. He'll watch, and decide whether she is worth his time based on her reactions to the situation. If she's boring, if she doesn't even try to defend herself, he might decide to ignore it.

But i think it's generally more likely that it will be the gang members doing the assaulting that he'd find boring; after all he's seen that same thing over and over, the reaction of the girl after the fact will be much more interesting. Plus she might join his retinue, and become a useful asset to him. His reasons might be convoluted, but in the end he's more likely to save the girl than to let her get hurt.

#iza was asked #orihara izaya #izaya orihara #durarara!!