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kackle · 1 year
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I wanted to have a plot twist in the beginning of my story that I am currently writing to, of course, grab the readers attention.
Before, I already had a prologue planned out where the character ends up getting kidnapped, and presumed to be dead.
But now, currently, I've been wondering if I should make that character in the prologue stay in the story, just for a little bit longer so that the audience could see see them as a protagonist.
Then the incident happens, and it's revealed that the first few chapters were just a prologue. That character & their death /going missing does have a direct affect on the plot & certain characters, & in return, those characters have a direct affect on the true protagonist.
Later on I plant to flesh out the twist even more (Such as giving the twist meaning & connecting it to me theme, messaging, etc ) but I feel like it may be more of a bait then a twist. & dont know if this whole thing is pushing it bc I have about 4 other plot twists. Im not very experienced so I could be over thinking it, I just need some advice From an experienced writer.
PIs help 😭
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kackle · 2 years
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I CANNOT EVERY SECOND IS KILLINBG ME
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kackle · 2 years
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Lmao am I the only person that whenever other bylers mention LOTR I get hella confused and when I try to read it, it makes no sense.. or am I just stupid 💀💀
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kackle · 2 years
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Relating to this, I rlly hope we get edgy mike is season 5 after the time skip, I rlly wanna see that lmao 😭😭
ok i kinda wanna divert from my doubts and wanna just talk about the variety of missed opportunities they could have had with mike. he was mentioned to be super rebellious (failed grades, vandalism, etc.) back then in s2 so i can just imagine him carrying that in high school more, especially considering that will and el arent around… and yet i didnt see that.
i just find that edgy, rebellious aspect of him interesting and would also be a good factor to tackle one of the show’s themes of puberty and change. it really sucks because i feel like we didnt get to see layers when it comes to mike anymore, because he spent majority of this season accommodating el and comparing his worth when it comes to her. like he stops being his own person when hes with her.
i feel like the first eps are one of my favorites personally because i got to see mike again. not el’s boyfriend, just mike. he was playing dnd. he was having fun, trying things in a new way with the party. he was making friends and he was clearly comfortable, not trying to be anyone he’s not. he even declared he didnt want to be associated with the popular crowd! he was himself.
i also feel like in a way, will’s image of mike stuck to him despite a lot of things changing. we all say ’oh will’s the true heart’ and to some extent i definitely agree
but he was right, at least at one point. mike was the dungeon master in s1. he led the group. dustin and lucas followed him almost without question, and they valued his opinions a lot in season 2. but because of how they wrote him in s4 (s3, if i may add), he’s kinda lost that. with all of this said, he does not feel like..mike anymore. hes simply el’s source of motivation and nothing else worth analyzing in a character standpoint.
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kackle · 2 years
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BRO I JUST FOUND THIS ON TIK TOK??? PLS ITS SO FUNNY??
FINN’S FACIAL EXPRESSIONS HAAHHAJAJA
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kackle · 2 years
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Ik yall are getting the info from the con but can anyone send me the link to where they saw It ??
Wills not getting a break in s5 lmao. They’re definitely pulling some Frodo Baggins storyline. Frodo was at his most vulnerable and weakest on Mount Doom. Let’s just hope Mikes there to help him along the way.
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kackle · 2 years
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Lmao I honestly don’t think it’ll happen for the sole purpose of robin being a good friend, bc I doubt she’d do that to steve.
Although, imagine how funny it would be if Jonathan and Steve both move on and Nancy comes to robin for comfort and then they fall in love??? I doubt they’d have a enough time to show that on screen but it would be interesting to see lol.
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She said it not me.
Well technically I also said it but you get what I mean.
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kackle · 2 years
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Bro I hope that they skip to 1989 so maybe they could include Lovesong in it ??? I could cry???
https://youtu.be/hXCKLJGLENs
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Has the time skip actually been addressed by the duffers? Like is it confirmed? Why do we all think it’s happening early in the season? What if it’s just at the end of the season after everything is done. It’s just a ~2 years later~ kinda thing to show us how the gang is doing after it all?
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kackle · 2 years
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Pls the amount of names I’ve seen for M!levens on this tag is so funny 😭😭
Milkvan, mentos, Mac n Cheese, Milkvapes, Milky ways??? Bro i could go on but theres too many to remember LMAO
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kackle · 2 years
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I think we might get an interview with them maybe like right before the release of S5 or right after it’s released? Not sure but they better oml
what if. literally no interview with both Noah and Finn til S5 ?
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kackle · 2 years
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I would fumble. I would crumble. I would cry. I would fly. I would scream. I would pop. I would flop.
In conclusion, I would quite literally freak the fuck out.
Hey so you know how Episode 5 of Season 5 is probably going to be the episode with a big Byeler moment following the pattern of every season so far (S1E1: It was a seven. S2E2: Crazy together. S3E3: Not my fault you don't like girls. S4E4: Cool. Cool (I think I haven't watched the season this is osmosis)).
WHAT IF WE GET AN EPISODE LIST A COUPLE MONTHS BEFORE THE SEASON RELEASES
AND THE TITLE OF EPISODE 5 IS
"The Paladin and The Cleric"
WHAT THEN
WHAT THEN
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kackle · 2 years
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Lmao the fact that most Bylers are now 99% sure that it’s gonna be endgame when just last weak we were in the trenches of disappointment.. And honestly I’m starting to join bc if byler isn’t going to be canon what’s the purpose ???
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kackle · 2 years
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Fr lol. And (correct me if Im wrong) but I’m pretty sure the Duffers told Finn with what they’re gonna do for the rest of the story, or at least with his character. If that’s true then why he acting like that if Milkvan is gonna be canon ? To not spoil? I mean yeah but isn’t it already clear for the most of the general audience???
idk something about when finn was asked where he thinks s5 mileven is going and he's like "oh i don't know. uh- well- i don't know" and then changes the subject completely talking about hawkins instead, and then is like "it's hard to tell obviously with 11 and his relationship, but i hope they find happiness, i dunno."
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kackle · 2 years
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Duffers take notes.
Lmao but seriously I love this and I hope that they do something like this bc it would be fuckin awesome 😭👏
the idea of will sacrificing himself (not dying) to the upside down so the gates can be closed and being assumed gone for 2 years only to return when vecna begins his final move is something i can't get out of my head.
like imagine will can close the gates with touch. because his essense has vecna and the gates automatically close cause of that (idk the technicalities). imagine him realising that if he himself entered the upside down, he could essentially close every gate opened.
imagine him walking to a gate and mike, shaky with disbelief and drawing horror following him, trying to stop him. imagine will turning around and smiling, "i know how to save hawkins mike. I'm casting protection." imagine him teary eyed going, "I wanted you to know, telling you that el asked me to make that painting was the only lie i ever told you." imagine will turning around and slipping into one of the gates and all around the gates closing. mike collapsing to the ground as the party gathers around. mike silent with shock as nancy holds him. el's cries rending the air.
imagine two years later and the party's in a different place, but stuck toegther even then. separating feels risky even now, when the upside down has remained dormant for two years. max had awoken days after will's disappearance. will had saved her from vecna's mind by somehow piggybacking vecna's own mind and cloaking his presence. now she's well on her way to recovery, but the shadow of will stays.
so imagine the party everyday, going to school coming back, doing homework and having fun even as they all feel the loss everyday. mike is the worst hit. he'd still, 2 years hence, turn around and talk to will before he catches himself. mike takes one look at the painting that's still rolled up in his room and runs for the bathroom because the idea that till the end, he didn't know how will was so brave, makes him sick to the stomach.
so imagine mike coming down the stairs, sitting down to pretend he has any appetite for breakfast before school when he hears it.
"Reports of outages are coming in from various parts of Indiana. The people have been assured that it's the effect of the recent cloudbursts that have hit the state. In other news, 12 year old James Frank was found after an anonymous tip was called in near the place that marked the disappearance of Will Byers back in 1983. James told the police that the young man who called in the tip told him to not reveal his identity. He also said that he was saved from a "dark and cold place" by the young man. The search is on for the anonymous good samaritan. Meanwhile the residents of Indiana wonder if the town of Hawkins is having its curse revive."
Mike looking at Nancy and Nancy knows. Her brother won't rest until they're back. The radio is cackling with all their friend's voices. They all heard.
They come back to the town. Hawkins is as Hawkins has been, sleepy and cold in a way no place, even actual Polar regions could be. They stay at Hoppers Cabin that they maintained and visited every other month.
It's nighttime and the news meanwhile tells them of mysterious animal killings in the woods. Nancy and Jonathan have a hunch so they get out of the house, armed to the teeth. Sure enough they can hear the demogorgon growl and it's almost a familiar memory, the fear. This demogorgon is sharper though. It sneaks and prowls and before they know it, it's leaping out at their backs, mouth open with many more razor sharp teeth than before.
They're armed though and ready to use it when the demogorgon stops midstep and its head falls to the ground. In a second, the shadow that downed it has gotten out a lighter and burned the monster.
"Are you out of your mind? Don't you know how dangerous these woods are? You could have been killed!"
Jonathan brings his torch up from the burning demogorgon to the persons face. In the steady light of his flashlight and the flickering of the flames, Jonathan and Nancy gasp.
"Will...?"
His brother is older. His hair is a shaggier, unkempt version of Jon's own, tied at the back. The shock on his face doesn't hide the grime, the hardness in his eyes. But the hardness can't hide the kindness that has always been Will either. This is a Will who has seen and dealt with horrors on such a daily basis that it has changed him as a person but kept his soul the same.
"Jon- Jonathan?"
If nothing, the softness in his voice speaks to who he is.
Will was found again and that's where the final battle starts.
The reappearance of will byers.
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kackle · 2 years
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Where is this from?? pls I need to know
Finn's reaction to the scene with Mikes monologue to El is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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kackle · 2 years
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Is there a new interview? Which one are you talking abt? Could u give the link 😭😭
Finn kinda hinted in the interview that Mike might leave Hawkins at the end of s5 but my mind immediately went to Mike’s Spotify playlist and “Smalltown Boy” at the top. And I’m not insinuating his leaving of Hawkins would be that distraught of an experience as the picture painted in that song. But WHAT IF Mike and Will leave Hawkins at the end of s5 together!? Like they go off to college together as boyfriends. We still have yet to see the way the writers are choosing to incorporate the line they tweeted “Let’s start a new party, you and me.” And that line just oozes Byler. Clearly, the way Finn responded in the interview regarding Milkvan insinuates Mike and El won’t be endgame. It’s been confirmed there will be no new characters this season, so no random new boyfriend for Will. I’d say today is a massive win you guys!
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kackle · 2 years
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Lmao just imagining what it would be like just seeing a hugely in depth analysis and going, “wow that rlly makes sense” and it’s just Noah Schnapp giving us as to why Byler is actually canon LMAOOO
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you guys should i do it
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