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You're not a clown, you're the entire circus. The whole reason my post was made because do you know how stupid it looks for someone who out of their own free will chooses to invade a country, kill the leader and then cry about supposedly having to kill them. If a man killed another for his wealth, the court wouldn't give a damn if he was sad about the victim "making" them murder them.

If you ignore the whole reason why Edelgard is waging a war and replace her actual motives with simple greed, then yeah, it looks pretty stupid. When you consider that she's fighting for what she believes is the greater good of all Fódlan and perceives herself as being confronted with a trolley problem where death and suffering cannot be avoided, only minimized, then it's only natural for her to be distraught when minimizing the harm involves killing someone she cares about.

Secondly, I don't know if you didn't bother to check your sources or tried to lie to my face when I have the evidence available, https://houses.fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/266. First of all, Dimitri makes the accusation that Lambert was killed for Edelgard, which per Thales is true, https://houses.fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/110. Secondly, he claims that Anselma was killed by Edelgard, which is the only dubious part because her fate is kept vague.

Ah yes, Thales, a totally trustworthy source who always has Edelgard's interests at heart. The only sense in which what Dimitri is accusing her of here could be considered true is that Anselma was motivated to participate in the Tragedy to reunite with Edelgard and died as a result. A connection Edelgard herself seems to be unaware of and is morally blameless for.

Last time I checked, giving people asylum isn't a valid Casus Belli.

What Dimitri does goes beyond granting asylum. By allowing a belligerent to use his territory as a base of operations he forfeits any claim to neutrality in the conflict. CF in particular has him outright swear fealty to Rhea, which more or less makes the Kingdom an extension of the Church.

I'm unsure if you're being obtuse on purpose, but unifying a continent through warfare is a war of conquest.

It is. But as we see she's perfectly willing to go the non-violent route when the opportunity presents itself.

Oh yes, Claude. You mean how in their meeting, https://hopes.fedatamine.com/en-us/events/639/. Edelgard outright lied to Claude's face per https://hopes.fedatamine.com/en-us/events/606/.

The way the scene is set up makes it pretty clear that this is theater, not a serious attempt to deceive Claude. Now that they're forming an alliance, it's more convenient for both parties to pretend their prior conflict was a misunderstanding. Edelgard is giving herself plausible deniability and giving Claude a way to buddy up with the nation that just invaded his own without losing face.

You actually think that someone who honestly says that there can only be one ruler of this world won't backstab Claude once his use is over? https://houses.fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/226#event-60

At that point it's clear that she and Dimitri are beyond reconciliation, only one of them can emerge victorious and that person will be the ruler of Fódlan. And no, I don't think she will turn on Claude as long as he holds up his end of the deal. It's repeatedly established that she wants to be a reliable ally and to minimize bloodshed where he can.

Thirdly, even before she knows where Rhea is gone, she is already preparing to launch an invasion of Faerghus and later launches an invasion of Leicester, https://hopes.fedatamine.com/en-us/events/443/#event-96. Funny how the event is called Beginning of the Conquest, almost like it's trying to tell you something.

Of course she made preparations, she'd be an idiot to think the Kingdom and Alliance would let the Church fall without resistance. It doesn't mean they didn't elect to oppose her.

You know it's really funny to me when people go around saying that Edelgard was so sad about "having" to kill Dimitri and others, when she was the one who decided to start a war and attacked his kingdom.

Oh and by the way, Edelgard wasn't made to start the war either, as Hubert all but confirms that it was Edelgard and Hubert's decision to work with Agartha, https://houses.fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/251, and in Hopes, Edelgard explicitly says that her goal is to conquer Fodlan, https://hopes.fedatamine.com/en-us/supports/edelgard/balthus/b/#event-68

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I assume, based on the timing, that you're referring to my post here. Let's dive a bit deeper, shall we?

First, the post is a response to oft repeated complaints that Edelgard is mean to Dimitri or that she doesn't care about him (sometimes because they missed how Edelgard's trauma affected her memories of their childhood friendship, or because they just don't like that she called him "King of Delusion" in response to his ranting about how he'll kill her for doing things she did not, and could not, have done). The dialogue I posted shows Edelgard expressing her regret that she could not prevent Dimitri falling into madness and her belief that putting him out of his misery was the kindest thing she could do for him, as far gone as he was.

It's also worth noting that Edelgard did not attack the Kingdom unprovoked. She went to war against the Church, and Dimitri intervened on the latter's behalf. Hopes, even in the example you cited, makes it pretty clear she's more interested in unifying Fódlan, than in conquering it, as is made apparent by her partnership with Claude. She even tells Dimitri that she'd leave him alone if he'd just cut ties with the Central Church and stop interfering, which he refuses.

You know it's really funny to me when people go around saying that Edelgard was so sad about "having" to kill Dimitri and others, when she was the one who decided to start a war and attacked his kingdom.

Oh and by the way, Edelgard wasn't made to start the war either, as Hubert all but confirms that it was Edelgard and Hubert's decision to work with Agartha, https://houses.fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/251, and in Hopes, Edelgard explicitly says that her goal is to conquer Fodlan, https://hopes.fedatamine.com/en-us/supports/edelgard/balthus/b/#event-68

#edelgard discourse #edelgard positive #edelgard von hresvelg #fire emblem #three houses

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just saw a post stating that edelgard starting a war is 100% wrong, essentially stating that being a revolutionary is Evil no matter the context

it really is incredible just how absurd theyre willing to go with this narrative that shes a bad person, as if a good percentage of media doesnt inherently glorify revolutionaries as heroes and idols to be celebrated. but when edelgard does this, it suddenly becomes wrong, a crime. how curious is that, right?

like its really clear that these people just dont give a damn about the story of fodlan at all because its VERY CLEAR that this is a country on the brink of collapse. i dont know how you can look at fodlan in any capacity and not see the cracks beginning to form. this is a country where child soldiers are not only encouraged, but REQUIRED in order to keep up with bandit attacks and slaying demonic beasts. multiple paralogues state that children with crests are married off, to the point where sylvain literally calls himself a studhorse at one point. ingrids paralogue is about defending ingrid from being KIDNAPPED and likely forced to marry a man at knifepoint. multiple cultures like sreng and duscur have been stomped on and treated like dirt, treated like "cared for" slaves at best and violent savages at worst, to the point where a man escaping back to his homeland is seen as "refusing kindness". FODLAN IS A BAD PLACE.

but no! apparently war is ALWAYS evil, even when the alternative is letting this state of affairs continue. war is ALWAYS evil, even when it saves innocent lives from the machinations of those who would do us harm. war-- No, let me be clear about what this person means. When they say "War", what they actually mean is "Violence." Violence is always Evil. That's what this means. It's that old adage of "Violence never solved anything", except that this is a statement used by pacifists to demean all violence rather than just cruelty.

If you look me in the eyes and tell me that you wouldn't hurt anybody, ever, then all it tells me is that you haven't got the heart to actually care about people. Is violence tragic? Yes. Absolutely. But denouncing it entirely is... It's beyond inhuman. It's apathetic about human life to the point of insanity. There are stories dating back centuries - Millenia, almost certainly - about how men and women will fight against gods and demons just to save one person from a fate they didn't deserve.

"Violence is Evil." No. Violence is Emotion. It can be used to attack and it can be used to defend. It is not, and cannot, be evil of its own accord. It is a tool to be used at the discretion of its wielder.

Evil, TRUE Evil, is Apathy. Evil is when you have all the power in the world to help people, to change the world, and you don't. When you see genuine human suffering and you don't feel the urge to step in and help. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

just saw a post stating that edelgard starting a war is 100% wrong, essentially stating that being a revolutionary is Evil no matter the context it really is incredible just how absurd theyre willing to go with this narrative that shes a bad person, as if a good percentage of media doesnt inherently glorify revolutionaries as heroes and idols to be celebrated. but when edelgard does this, it suddenly becomes wrong, a crime. how curious is that, right?

Generally speaking, Edelgard detractors try to deny that she's revolting at all through some description pedantry, even though ultimately what she's doing is fighting the very social groundwork upon which Fodlan rests, and,

So yeah. They get so hung up on the part where she's a person in power herself and ignore that she intends to change Fodlan utterly, and for the better. Rhea and Seteth frequently call her a traitor or other synonyms. She is a revolutionary.

Also, people just become enamored with the ideal of peaceful protest, when the reality is... sometimes things gotta get bloody.

like its really clear that these people just dont give a damn about the story of fodlan at all because its VERY CLEAR that this is a country on the brink of collapse. i dont know how you can look at fodlan in any capacity and not see the cracks beginning to form. this is a country where child soldiers are not only encouraged, but REQUIRED in order to keep up with bandit attacks and slaying demonic beasts. multiple paralogues state that children with crests are married off, to the point where sylvain literally calls himself a studhorse at one point. ingrids paralogue is about defending ingrid from being KIDNAPPED and likely forced to marry a man at knifepoint. multiple cultures like sreng and duscur have been stomped on and treated like dirt, treated like "cared for" slaves at best and violent savages at worst, to the point where a man escaping back to his homeland is seen as "refusing kindness". FODLAN IS A BAD PLACE.

Yup. It's been said time and again, but for a setting in an FE game, Fodlan's in a remarkable state of turmoil long before the war kicks off. Usually things are peaceful before the aggressor nation makes it move.

but no! apparently war is ALWAYS evil, even when the alternative is letting this state of affairs continue. war is ALWAYS evil, even when it saves innocent lives from the machinations of those who would do us harm. war-- No, let me be clear about what this person means. When they say "War", what they actually mean is "Violence." Violence is always Evil. That's what this means. It's that old adage of "Violence never solved anything", except that this is a statement used by pacifists to demean all violence rather than just cruelty.

So Fire Emblem as a series is in a weird place in how it treats war, because frankly it wants to have things both ways. Obviously the writers don't want to extol the "virtues" of warfare so on the face of things, the series tends to portray an anti-war message, but this is an SRPG at the end of the day, so while Emmeryn's appeals to peace were powerful and cause a good number of Plegia's soldiers to dessert, you still use violence and war to stop Gangrel, Walhart, and Grima. The writing rejects violence for a good cause even though violence is how you fix everything.

One of the Edelcrits runs a whole-ass thing picking out anti-war lines from Heroes as though this somehow throws shade on Three Houses, when the reality is it's throwing shade on how things are done throughout the whole series. They behave as though self-defensive violence is always justified and never spirals out of proportion.

"Violence is Evil." No. Violence is Emotion. It can be used to attack and it can be used to defend. It is not, and cannot, be evil of its own accord. It is a tool to be used at the discretion of its wielder.

Exactly. It's all about what the violence is doing and how severe it goes. Edelgard fights to bring rights to the people; Rhea fights to maintain her power and Fodlan's status quo. The fact that Rhea is the one defending herself doesn't change that she's fighting for a bad cause.

Evil, TRUE Evil, is Apathy. Evil is when you have all the power in the world to help people, to change the world, and you don't. When you see genuine human suffering and you don't feel the urge to step in and help. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

Very true, and Fodlan is a case study in that.

Thanks for the excellent ask!

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Remember: Edelgard is a Big Meanie-Face Who Doesn't Care About Dimitri

#edelgard von hresvelg #edelgard discourse #fe3h #edelgard positive #fire emblem #three houses #dimitri alexandre blaiddyd #crimson flower #her voice is cracking as she says this #utterly transparent attempt to deny tears #roy mustang would be proud

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It's worth noting that the line in question is a mistranslation. Her line the original Japanese script is closer to "I guess someone like you who has such things wouldn't understand the feelings of those who don't," in response to Dimitri talking about how Byleth and all his friends supported him in his time of need.

It's a pity, because original line really underscores the fundamental disconnect between the two characters and the way they reflect the game's central theme of reaching out. Though both have experienced isolation Dimitri's was largely self imposed, he could have gone to Fraldarius at any time to ask Rodrigue for assistance (and he apparently did in Silver Snow), but instead decided to skulk around the wilderness slaughtering people and leaving Gustave to follow the trail of carnage. Even after everyone is assembled and offering their help he still spends most of his time standing in the corner and refusing to engage with anyone unless it involves killing Adrestians until after Gronder.

The lesson Dimitri ultimately learned was to accept the support being offered to him, so that's the lesson he tries to pass on to Edelgard. Unfortunately it falls flat, because Edelgard's problem is not that she is rejecting the support being offered to her, but that she desperately sought support and kept coming up empty. In the dungeon, nobody came to her rescue and her prayers to the goddess were met with silence. When she got out she was in an Empire controlled by her enemies, where anybody could be a monster in disguise. She had Hubert, but he, by his own admission, was not equipped to provide the kind of help she needed. Byleth essentially represents a last hope for her; one last person who could save a lonely, traumatized girl before she's crushed by the weight of her ideals. Consequently, Edelgard spends the bulk of White Clouds reaching out for Byleth, trying to get them to understand her and her perspective so they might side with her in the end. It's why the Black Eagles are the only route that splits; unlike Dimitri, who needs to learn to accept the support offered to him, or Claude, who needs to learn to trust people, Edelgard needs somebody to trust her and offer support. The onus is on Byleth, the player, to reward her effort in reaching out or to rebuff her.

I made a comment on a YouTube video 4 years ago pointing out that when Edelgard said that Dimitri didn’t know how peasants in Fodlan felt, she was in fact incorrect. To this very day there were people arguing on it saying that Dimitri sux and Edelgard is da best, and of course people arguing against that. On a comment. Where I merely pointed out that she was wrong in one case. It had 100s of replies. I just deleted the comment just now. I am absolutely shocked at the mental gymnastics that Edelstans will go through to say that she is never wrong about anything ever, as well as the pigheadedness that other Dimitri enjoyers exhibit when they argue with people who aren’t listening.

PLEASE GO OUTSIDE IM BEGGING YOU ALL TO PLEASE GO THERES WAY BIGGER THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT

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It's ambiguous, but even Dedue could potentially be spared if you beat him before he transforms. At least, there's nothing in his dialogue and voice acting in the bonus scene (be it English or Japanese) to indicate that he's dying, whereas Dimitri is clearly fading.

I think what hurts the most for me when playing Three Houses is that unless you recruit them, most of the Black Eagles will die on non-CF routes.

Edelgard and Hubert will die regardless of player choices. Ferdinand dies at Myrddin if you don't recruit him. It's implied that even if you spare them, Linhardt and Caspar die at Fort Merceus will die because of the Slitherers sending down that missle.

The only Black Eagles who can survive if you intentionally circumvent them are Bernadetta, Dorothea, and Petra; the three that suffer the most under the current systems of Fodlan (Bernadetta from the abusive family and nobility politics of society, Dorothea from the classism and sexualization of attractive women, and Petra from the colonialism affecting her home).

That's why after I completed the game I can't replay any of the other routes. It's not fair that all these amazing characters fighting for a better world for their people are left stuck in a system that either doesn't get better, or only gets somewhat better for a select few.

Yeeeah, it's rough playing the non-CF routes in 3H. On the plus side, I can save basically everyone I care about in CF barring Dedue, so that's not really an issue for me if I just main CF :D

I do think the fact that there's no perfect route is to 3H's benefit. Triangle Strategy and Fates showed the issues with making one route that exists to be better than the others.

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Love 'em.

white haired men this, white haired men that. what about white haired women

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Even if she couldn't stop it, she evidently didn't speak out against it, even when people started claiming it was the will of the goddess. You know, the goddess Rhea is supposed to speak for? Her silence is a tacit endorsement of the whole affair in my book.

Merely the head of religion

Please understand, Rhea's only the head of the church that gives the Crown of Faerghus its power T_T

Also, "being racist". Committing a genocide is a step above and beyond being racist.

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This is supposed to be the same character whose first instinct when Byleth defends her in the tomb is to ask if they're certain about their choice? Who asks at least twice more if they're really willing to stand with her, flat out admits she never expected them to, and whose dread over her belief that she will inevitably drive them away is the basis of the game's theme song?

Is it true that Reyna put the Edeleth tag on her bashfic for a time just to bait shippers into reading it? I can't confirm it, but i honestly wouldn't put it past her to do that.

Someone said they did do that, but I can't confirm it now. It wouldn't surprise me, Reyna thinks she "deconstructed" Edeleth by having Edelgard act like Byleth belongs with her.

#fire emblem three houses #edelgard discourse #edelgard von hresvelg #edelgard positive #how does one miss the point this badly?

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Have fun playing with your strawman.

I saw someone say that Edelgard started a war out of empathy

aint no way

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You know what's funny? The vast majority of crest related abuse occurs in Adrestia

Faerghus is full of it too. Annette, Mercedes, Ingrid, Sylvain, Miklan, and Rufus all suffered for Crests, and, per Seteth, disowning Crestless children is a common practice in the Kingdom. In Leicester we have Lysithea, Marianne, and Balthus as characters who suffered for Crests.

That's just people who suffer directly from the obsession with Crests.

you know the nation that kicked the Church out of their country 120 years prior to the start of the game. Funny how these things work out.

The Southern Church was disbanded after it was found to have conspired to overthrow the Empire. It's not like Adrestians just suddenly rejected the faith en masse.

You do realise that Crests are valued for the power they grant with the bonus of being physical proof of one's bloodline. No Crest related atrocity was because of their false origin.

No, that's precisely backwards. Crests are primarily valued for the clout they bring; clout which only exists because the Church holds that they are a sign of the Goddess's favor. The only ones claiming they need Crests for their powers are House Gautier, and their claim is pretty dubious, given that they already fended off the worst Sreng invasion in history before the came into possession of the Lance of Ruin, meanwhile Crestless Holst has been holding off the more advanced Almyrans and Count Bergliez repelled the Dagda/Brigid invasion without a Relic.

It's funny how you ignore how the Knights of Seiros mainly take action in response to requests for aid from involved nations.

Relevance?

Regardless of the motive, Edelgard still started a continent spanning war because she thought she knew better then her counterparts.

Such is the nature of revolution, and, to her credit, she objectively does know better in many respects. She is the Lord with the most complete understanding of the issues plaguing Fódlan (including being the only one aware of both conspiracies influencing the continent) and with a plan to remedy them. In contrast, Claude is still trying to puzzle things out for most of the game, while Dimitri remains largely ignorant throughout.

I saw someone say that Edelgard started a war out of empathy

aint no way

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Empathy for the people suffering under the church-backed system of nobility. Where Crested nobles trample over commoners, who can do nothing about it because the Crested are supposed to be blessed by the Goddess, and where Crestless nobles will stoop to any low to obtain one and secure their legitimacy. A system promoted by a false history knowingly promulgated by the church which, despite its tremendous influence, permits such abuses to continue essentially unchallenged.

It's really not that hard to grasp.

I saw someone say that Edelgard started a war out of empathy

aint no way

#edelgard discourse #edelgard positive #edelgard von hresvelg

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The way some people go out of their way to misunderstand Edelgard's reasons for going after the church it's like they only played the game once at launch, did AM only, while plastered the whole time.

Edelgard’s lack of interest in looking into the history of Fodlan beyond what her (dubiously reliable) father and (fantasy Nazi torture squad) TWSITD tell her is such a clear and glaring character flaw that so many of her “did nothing wrong” fans defend as Good, Actually. Like I can’t wrap my head around it, we know that there’s so much about the history of the continent that El either doesn’t or refuses to learn and while it’s understandable in some ways why she can’t it’s still like. Bad. It’s so clear that if her actual goal was liberation then she would’ve done more research, gone to the church and told them that hey, the Slitherers™️ are at it again and we need to do something. But she doesn’t, because that’s not actually her goal… it’s conquest of the other two nations and an overturning of the current system to favor her (mostly already privileged) friends, plain and simple. But people who either didn’t play any routes but CF or just didn’t pay attention/have poor media analysis skills love to say otherwise. Bluh.

I still can't get over how she was tortured and lost all her siblings to TWSITD and decided that the CHURCH was the biggest threat.

Edelgard 100% believes she is in the right and is the ONLY person who is right and thus is the ONLY person who can bring about change. And with "change" I mean "unify Fodlan and bring it under the control of the Adrestian Empire like it was in the past".

At no point does she consider that Wilhelm's history could've been tampered with, or simply been misunderstood after a whole millenia has passed. And why not? Because it's the only thing that drives her hatred for the church, and if it was disproven then she has no leg to stand on? Probably!

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Of course she tricked you into thinking with your dick. Yes, specifically your dick, because according to them the only people who like Edelgard are horny straight dudes and Dimitri is the real lesbian icon of 3H.

I really can't see how people keep calling Edelgard the villain of Three Houses. Her methods may be questionable (but really, whose methods aren't in this game?) but her ideals and reasons for starting the war are sound. She wants reform. She wants positive change. She wants people to suffer less. She wants to remove the powers that result in things crest eugenics and extreme wealth gaps and various forms of abuse and human rights violations. She wants a better world for the people of their continent. And while those things may come sometime in the future through slower "peaceful" reforms, not everyone in Fódlan can wait that long, or will even live to see it. Especially with the added issue of those who slither in the dark being part of the equation. Also, looking at the lyrics for "Edge of Dawn", canonically Edelgard's song and the main theme of the entire game, how can anyone look at her and go "oh, yeah, that's an irredeemable war hungry villain".

Edelgard is a character who saw the issues plaguing the people, heard those in power say "it is what it is, and peaceful change takes time" and decided the risk of starting a war for change was worth it.

A lot of her motivations and methods honestly remind me of Lelouch from Code Geass, and people consider him one of the greatest heroes and tacticians in all of anime.

Why can't people see Edelgard is cut from the same cloth?

Edelgard detractors tend to fall into two camps, one of which I understand (though still disagree with), while the other are the kind of people I interact with here.

First you have the reasonable Edelgard detractor who acknowledge her positive motives but disagree with her methods. I understand where they're coming from (war sucks after all, not even CF pretends different) but I also disagree with them that life in Fodlan could have been fixed by just having the three lords and Rhea sit at a table and talk things out. Systemic issues that have lingered, and if anything worsened, for a millennium don't get fixed by just having the "right" leaders come into power and fix them.

Then the Tumblrite Edelgard criticals are just the type who think she's a vicious Nabatean-hating racist who want to reclaim the old Adrestian territories. For them there's just very little middle ground since they aren't even coming at it from a baseline accurate read of her character. It'd be like trying to argue with someone who thinks Dimitri was having a blast slaughtering Imperial troops in boar mode...

And yeah, there's a whole video comparing her to Lelouch, it's really good stuff!

Link here for anyone who wants to see it!

#edelgard von hresvelg #edelgard positive #fire emblem #three houses #fe3h #fe16 #also a thing I have seen people say unironically

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The funny thing is that Edelgard = Rudolf is probably the most accurate comparison there.

Rudolf himself (at least in Echoes, I can't speak to the original Gaiden), is far more of an anti-hero than a true villain, and the happy ending — including the unification of Valentia and liberation of humanity from the dragon gods stagnating the continent — is his plan going off without a hitch.

Rhea, as a dragon positioning herself as (the voice of) a god, while causing the stagnation of the continent is much more analogous to Mila and Duma than to Alm or Celica.

I recall a post which compared rhea and byleth to alm and cecila from fire embem gaiden. edelgard was compared to rudolf of course

Yeah, people took notice that Edelgard's build as a unit and her role in the story is reminiscent of the typical Rudolph (or "red emperor" as her detractors like to say) archetype, but her antis miss the fact that she reconstructs the archetype, just as Dimitri deconstructs the Marth archetype.

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