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starrysharks · 3 months
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today i FINALLY watched "bottoms"!! finally got around to it, and i'm glad i did. loser lesbian teen comedy, what more could you ask for... the humor is right up my alley, and the consistent unseriousness is perfect for the premise and tone, though the movie still knows to tone it down on certain scenes. (almost) every joke lands perfect. the characters are full of personality, and everything is just the right amount of over-the-top. the pacing is also solid, and though i'm not the biggest fan of liar revealed stories most of the time, the aformentioned goofyness of the movie and the well paced resolution softened the blow of an overwise tired (imo) trope. 4.5/5, big recommend if you like teen comedies like "superbad" and are also a lesbian :]
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fa-dubu · 5 months
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nightmare at green lake spoilers
it seems that identity is a theme for the event, how one perceives themself vs how one is perceived by others and some post-event thots
Blonney: has spent most of her pre-teen - present day trying to shed her arcanist side. the way she dresses, the topics and things she allows herself to seem interested in, and the people she chooses to surround herself with are all what 'normal people' her age 'should' be into. (like a metaphor for neurodivergency, comphet, or both) her denial is ultimately futile as she's still treated differently by her human peers and the audience can see that she still holds deep love for cheesy slasher movies. when she accepts her arcanist side, she reawakens her previously missing arcanum ability, but interesting enough, outside of Jessica, she's still going by 'Blonney' rather than 'Jennifer.' i figured with reclaiming her arcanist identity she'd go back to using her real name vs the name she goes by when she was trying to be as 'human' as possible. but it makes sense that you can't undo years of self-doubt with one life-changing event.
speaking of Jessica, her identity is based off of Jennifer's Best GirlTM - i'm only partially joking too. i'm not too sure if Jessica's ("see you later"/"but she's never actually 'seen' me) line meant Jennifer was 1) reading her stories to Jessica while Jessica was disguised as a deer or 2) reading her stories to the lake and speaking to her oc 'Jessica' and our Jessica was hiding and listening in. either way, our Jessica named herself after the heroine in Jennifer's story, salvaged Jennifer's storybook/diary from the bottom of the lake, then spent the next 10+ years using her arcanum ability (and leftover Zeno tech) to bring Jennifer's stories to life. Jessica was trying to be who she thought Jennifer wanted in her heroines: kind, gentle and sweet, with a hidden badass side (parrying the butcher's machete with a branch and then killing him with his own machete - just a tad bit overpowered jessica). outside of the shipping, i think part of why Jessica latched onto Jennifer so hard was that the 'Jessica' identity was the first one (unknowingly) given to her that she liked and welcomed vs other people seeing her and immediately calling her a freak. it takes Vertin for Jessica to see she could be more than 'Jessica the Last Girl' and 'Jessica the Monster'. i'm a little nervous about her getting recruited by the Foundation, esp with Madam Z's line about her arcanum ability being helpful for experiments, but if that means there's chances for her to show up in later patches or events...
(i'm assuming she was originally a regular critter living in the Green Lake area that Zeno experimented on? or maybe she was a regular deer they crossed with a critter to create a changeling? idk, her origins are ambiguous. the only thing we know for sure is that she was part of Zeno's experiments in the 60s-70s at the Green Lake base where they cultivated her arcanum ability as well as her ability to command lower-level critters. and when Zeno couldn't keep the experiments under wraps because too many critters escaped and damaged the nearby human town, they scrambled to dissemble the base and move to another site with Z's help. Jessica was left behind during the kerfuffle. then she spent years alone and misunderstood. man, her puppet play hit me hard)
i thought Z and Tooth Fairy's conversation at the end was p funny: neither of them really knew the 'truth' and were going off assumptions. Z believed the 'Tooth Fairy's brother lost all his teeth because he was cursed by tooth fairies as revenge for Tooth Fairy eating their brethren' story instead of the more boring truth: Tooth Fairy's brother had a congenital disease that caused tooth-loss. Tooth Fairy believed the 'Zeno Youth Force trapped in a nightmare horror and came back changed and violent' story Horropedia was peddling (which, i argue that she only partly believed because she'd get a shitton of loose teeth if the story were true and the thought of free teeth was too exciting to dig deeper into the story) instead of the aforementioned Zeno base shutdown.
it took me until the end of the damn event for me to realize what the 3 guy actors were referring to 😩
overall, i really enjoyed the event! even horropedia who was i expecting to annoy me as much as diggers did. i liked all the character interactions: Blonney and Horropedia play off each other well, of course Blonney and Jessica's cute moments. i wish there were more Tooth Fairy and Jessica interactions; i feel like the two could really relate to each other because of how misunderstood they are, but i'm pretty satisfied with Tooth Fairy asking Z if she could visit Jessica at the Foundation.
finally, blonney please come home soon bc i need to save for your deer gf OTL
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disneytva · 2 years
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Big City Greens New York Comic-Con 2022 Panel Highlights
The New York Comic-Con Panel of Big City Greens took place today and we want to give the scoop on the main highlights of information of the panel.
-The crew discussed how they got the roles with Zeno Robinson mentioning how Big City Greens saved his life and how the show lead him to voice roles at Disney like The Owl House,Amphibia,Turning Red,Diary Of A Wimpy Kid,Cars On The Road and Baymax!
Bob Joles discussed how his voice acting for Bill Green is inspired on his own grandfather
Artemis discussed how she gives more a little of venom with voice acting Alice Grees.
Cousin Jilly is Marieve Herington’s favorite episode!
The Greens going back to the country was always planned from day one, the storyline was used when the crew was send to Work From Home during the peaks of the COVID-19 pandemic at 2020.
They wanted to go back to the country when the show really earned it
The Country Arc was expected to be the Series Finale storyline since Disney TVA shows barely go beyond 3 seasons.
A New Half-Hour Christmas Special who takes place on Big City is on the way and was written on 2020 but due the scheduling Disney needed to move it to December 2022. It was going to air on December 2021
Will Gloria and Alice visit The Greens? You will find out this Saturday on "Homeward Hound"
An upcoming episode will explore Gabriella and Cricket's long distance relationship.
The Theme of The Series is "Change and how we deal with it!" Explaining Remy's Speech as a main point and how on S3B the episodes opens alot of doors on change.
Big City Greens The Movie is not storyline of the Series Finale (Season 5????) but a Series Finale is being mapped on the head of Shane & Chris.
Chris can know what are the shorts he's recording when he reads the scripts.
Season 3B will introduce more characters like Patti the owner of the restaurant on Smalton but S4 will introduce even more characters.
A little girl asked why Remy goes with the Greens and Zeno gives details on this Saturday episode "Farmer Remy"
Little Girl final question "Is there gonna be a Season 5 or Season 6?" "Big City Greens is NOT stopping anytime soon"
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mst3kproject · 7 years
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519: Outlaw
I don't want to talk about the Gor books.  I don't think I need to talk about them – there's plenty to mock in Outlaw without going into its source material.  Anyway, if I were going to talk about them I'd have to read them, and everything I've ever heard about them tells me that I definitely don't want to do that.  They sound like a Fifty Shades of Grey for basement-dwelling misogynist nerd stereotypes.
A couple of assholes named Watney (no relation to the guy who got left behind on Mars) and Cabot (no relation to the author of The Princess Diaries) are on their way to a bar when they are forced to make a detour into another dimension.  Fortunately, this is a sequel: Cabot has been here before and so rather than dying of thirst in the desert, they find their way to the cardboard city of Coroba. There, the two become embroiled in a plot by Queen Lara to murder her husband and seize power.  She imprisons Watney and the rightful heir, Princess Talena, and sends a bounty hunter to capture the escaped Cabot.  After much pointless wandering around, the conspiracy is revealed.  The bounty hunter kills Lara, Cabot marries Talena and becomes king, Watney is sent back to Earth, and Zeno the High Priest does basically nothing despite being played by the only cast member anybody in the audience has ever heard of.
Quick Note: the 'desert snake' that appears in one shot appears to be a Burmese python, a semi-aquatic species that lives in the rainforests of southeast Asia.  They could not have gotten that more wrong if they'd tried.
Besides that stunning failure of herpetology, the thing about this movie that most sticks in my mind is the kissing.  Cabot and Talena share several kisses.  They're supposed to be epic and passionate, but there's something weirdly mechanical about them, like we're watching exaggerated stop-motion animation of a kiss. It's as if neither Urbano Barberini nor Rebecca Feratti have any actual experience of kissing, and are trying to kiss based on having read an anatomical study of the muscles involved.  Gross.
After that, the second thing I remember about the movie is how incredibly fake everything in it looks.  Cabot's flashback tells us that Gor is a harsh world, and it breeds harsh people – this is supposed to be a gritty, raw, half-savage place, where the aristocracy wallow in decadence while the common folk toil in the mud, and where death is always a just a hair away.  The sets and costumes are admittedly elaborate, and there is at least some unity of design (unlike, say, Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell, where they just used whatever they could find in the prop warehouse), but everything looks like it was made in a high school art class.  King Marlenus' crowns appear to be made of cardboard and hot glue, spray-painted gold.  Talena and the 'Leather Women' look like they're wearing bondage gear from Spencer's Gifts, while the dancers are in 'sexy genie' Hallowe'en costumes.  The entire city of Coroba is built out of plywood, except for the parts that are built from styrofoam (hence why the slaves are being worked to death in the styrofoam mines).  That stupid 'lizard woman' face painted on the wall looks like the work of a twelve-year-old who has just learned how to grid out facial proportions.
The biggest problem with Outlaw, however, is one that only becomes obvious after a little thought.  Having pondered the film's story for a while, trying to figure out why it seems so pointless, I eventually realized – it's because Cabot, our ostensible hero, never does anything.
Well, that's not quite true.  He does a couple of things, but nothing he does ever matters.  He beats up some sand Nazis when they first arrive on Gor, but that has absolutely no connection with the rest of the plot.  He gets himself and Watney to Coroba, where he is conveniently present to be framed when Lara murders her husband.  Afterwards he flees into the desert where he and his sidekick Hup get lost and wander in circles for a while.  They find a group of slavers chasing people in the middle of nowhere for some reason, and stage a jailbreak which frees exactly one slave.  Then they're caught by the bounty hunter and taken back to Coroba, where both Lara and Zeno try to bargain for Cabot's loyalty and fail.  The villains lose not because of him, but because they turn on each other.  The whole movie could have happened just fine even if Cabot never bothered to show up.
It's not like there weren't opportunities for him to do something.  Cabot could have gotten the slaves in the desert camp to rise up against their captors, and then rallied them into an army to storm Coroba.  He didn't do that.  He could have snuck back into the city to free Talena and get the support of the people to put her on the throne.  He didn't do that either.  He could have pretended to join forces with Zeno against Lara, or Lara against Zeno, or just killed Lara when she tried to seduce him.  Didn't do that.  He could have led a revolt in the styrofoam mines after the cave-in sowed discontent with the regime.  Didn't do that either. Cabot seems to spend the whole movie waiting around for a chance to do something heroic, but every time one arrives he lets it pass by.
What about any of the other 'good' characters?  An old wizard called the Elder was the one who brought Cabot and Watney to Gor, in the hopes that they would accomplish something.  He gets stabbed by Lara before he can tell them what.  Talena spends most of the movie in a dungeon.  She maims a couple of dominatrices but that's about it for her.  Hup follows Cabot around, complaining about how hot, hungry, and lost they are.  Watney, too, rots in jail, out of sight and out of mind, for ninety percent of the film – then at the final showdown, he announces to the public that Lara murdered King Marlenus.  This is what brings about the end of the movie, as the bounty hunter kills her with a spear and Cabot and Talena are able to become King and Queen.  That's right, folks – the only ‘hero’ character in the movie who does anything directly to overthrow Lara is fucking Watney.
Watney deserves some kind of award for being probably the most hateable single character ever to appear on MST3K – and that's saying something.  His competition includes such nails-on-chalkboard specimens as various Gamera kids, the peeping soldiers from Attack of the The Eye Creatures, and Mitchell, but Watney blows them all away.  He's a sexist pig, a whiny asshole, and a fucking idiot combined.  Lara promises to make him a king and he seriously expects her to follow through on it, even still shouting threats at the guards who drag him away.  Yet at the end, when he, Cabot, Hup, and Talena are all about the be executed, he's the only person who responds proactively.  The movie would have ended the same way without Cabot, but not without Watney.  I guess that makes him the hero.  What a horrible thought.
So much for the good guys.  How about the villains?  Zeno mixes potions and has passive-aggressive arguments with Lara, but she gets fed up and kills him before he can really take any action against her.  Lara herself is a cartoon character – she's evil, and that's one hundred percent of her personality and motivation.  There is exactly one line in the movie that hints at a backstory for her. She claims that she had to learn the hard way that power is all that matters.  This suggests that she may have been a slave herself before rising to her current position, and if it had been explored a little this could have made something interesting out of her.  Historical parrallels could be drawn to Anne Boleyn or Irene Sarantapechaina, a former concubine using royal authority to punish those she feels have abused her.
But nobody else in this movie has more than one dimension, so why should she?  She seems interested in nothing but power for its own sake.  The reponsibilities that come with wielding it are entirely immaterial to her – she just wants to tell people what to do and then watch as they are forced to do it regardless of whether it actually makes any sense.  In fact, a number of the things she does, such as ordering the slaves to be locked in during the cave-in at the styrofoam mine, seem to have no purpose beyond exercising this total authority.  It's as if she wants to be surrounded by people who despise her, while she enjoys the fact that they can't do anything about her.  Imagine if she had a twitter account.
Then there's the most nonsensical character of all, the bounty hunter.  I think his name is Horst.  Lara hires him to bring Cabot and Hup back, he does so, she pays him, and he leaves.  It seems like his role in the story is done, but then he turns up again at the finale to kill Lara for no reason other than Watney said so.  I was sure this scene had to be otherwise motivated.  MST3K must've cut the bit where we find out she cheated him out of money or something – but no, apparently he just decided that it was time for the movie to end.  Maybe he's the hero.
The movie, however, treats Cabot as the hero throughout, so I suppose Cabot is the person it wants us to emulate.  What does that mean?  I guess it means that when evil appears to have triumphed, all we need to do is keep our heads down and wait it out.  We can put up with other people doing terrible things as long as we don't explicitly support them, and occasionally make some small show of loyalty to good, and sooner or later somebody else will topple the evil for you.  White-Liberal-est movie ever.
See what I meant?  There's heaps to complain about in Outlaw, and I didn't have to mention the books once.
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starrysharks · 3 months
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okkkk i watched the first episode of hazbin hotel and i think it has a lot of missed potential. there are actually quite a few goods - the animation for the most part is nice, the voice acting is great (especially keith david as the cat thing), and the songs are alright. the show brings up interesting concepts but the main problem is that it doesn't really execute them in an interesting way, mainly due to the way the characters are written.
every character - with the exception of alastor, charlie and nifty - has a generally "vulgar" personality, ranging from that being a primary trait to basically the entire character (based on the 1st episode alone). they're all written in a similar way, which means that character interactions are very basic funnyman/straightman endeavors with little variation - angel dust says something dumb and vaggie chatises him, or angel dust says something sexual and husk chatises him. that formula basically extends to most if not all of their interactions so far, so the dynamics between characters are similar and frankly uninteresting. angel dust especially (i really don't like him sorry) is so far just a vessel for sexual jokes, and we don't really get anything from his character other than "he's horny", which isn't really good for your first episode imo. the language the characters use is also similar so there's little humorous contrast. there aren't really "jokes" with setup and payoff - just characters saying and doing out of pocket things.
the worst example of this is with the angels, particularly adam. i think that the angel with him (lute i think?) would actually serve his purpose in the story better based on her character - somewhat regal, orderly, but most importantly uses a completely different language to the devils. this sort of contrast would've been way more interesting imo - have the angels be holier-than-thou (quite literally), talk charlie down, make her feel less than or even like a "sinner" - which would be cool because as far as i can tell charlie tries her best to be as good as possible! that would be a unique way to bring out her angry side but instead adam just acts like any other devil, even worse than them, and maybe that's on purpose but i don't think it's very cool...... it would be fun to play off the watcher's preconceived notions and ideas on angels and devils after establishing how charlie deviates from the norm, maybe even having the angels be like "wow you lashing out proves devils are all evil", but now i'm rambling...
other than that, i think the story introduces its main plot points too early. give the concept some time to breathe and establish itself before dropping the bombshell that the extermination is to be 6 months early, damn,,, but i'd have to watch every episode to give an opinion on how they handle that, which i likely won't do. i have some small nitpicks, like the weird lack of buildup to most songs and the kind of weird pacing, but in short, based on the first episode, it's just a compilation of missed opportunities and edgy swear-humor offset by some genuinely interesting and good ideas. this isn't a review of the entire series, by the way - just a "initial thoughts" thing. if you really are interested in the concept, i'd say give it a chance, but please be aware of the creator's actions before you support it monetarily. (i watched the first episode through other means as i genuinely dislike the creator due to her bigotry, of which others have described more eloquently than me - it's very easy to find "call-outs" and critiques of her actions). 4/10, where is verblase :/
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starrysharks · 6 months
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as i type this, i'm waiting at a boba shop after watching 'FNAF'... i won't spoil anything, but all i can say is that it was okay. the direction they took was pretty unexpected, but it was still a somewhat interesting interpretation of the game's story. i know it's a 15, but i wish there was more on-screen gore - there's a lot of cutaways. but the animatronics are a BIG standout - they're honestly perfect in every aspect (the red eyes aren't that bad, guys,,, (´ ∀ ` *)) there was a perfect amount of fanservice too with some great cameos and references (especially the dream theory book) that weren't too obtrusive or obnoxious. in all, i'd give it 2.7/5 - which might sound a bit harsh, but i promise it's a really nice film! just not very 'horror'.
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starrysharks · 5 months
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today i watched the two trolls sequels ("world tour" and "band together"). both pretty cheesy movies, but what stands out is the art direction and character design - super unique use of different textures and fabrics! the designs of the creatures are cute, and the animation is pleasant to look at and mostly avoids the sort of obnoxious flair many children's movies from stuidos like illumination have.
i preferred "band together" to "world tour", but i wish they had brought back the different genre trolls from "world tour" to connect the two stories better. they almost feel like episodes in a series rather than connected movies, but maybe that was the goal? but all in all, they seem to give pretty solid messages to kids regarding accepting others for their differences and not um. stealing other people's talent for their own gain? idk. but "band together" had better musical references like the little boyband puns.
i'd give "world tour" a 2.5/5 and "band together" a 3/5. velvet and veneer's inclusions alone give "band together" 0.2 more points alone. honestly the villains in these movies have been consistently very fun and hard to hate. in short - low substance but simultaneously fun and enjoyable movies despite some cringy sequences and jokes. they just had trolls serve cunt for 180 minutes.
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starrysharks · 2 months
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today i watched "zombieland" ! fun little zombie comedy with micheal cera lookalike protagonist. i don't have much to say because this movie doesn't have much to give - but what it does give is pretty good. the jokes are consistently funny, though the narration did get a bit grating after a while, i did enjoy most of the comedy especially the bill murray bit. the story is straightforward and simple, as are the characters, and it was paced in a way that kept things interesting without moving too fast. honestly i was so convinced that the tallahassee (idk how to spell american places sorry) guy would tragically die at the end and idk why. anyway it was fun, silly, probably wouldn't watch it again, 3/5!
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starrysharks · 3 months
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today i watched "vampires vs. the bronx". it's about a group of kids fighting against gentrification in the form of vampires! it was really fun - more comedy than horror, but still an entertaining watch. the metaphors involved were gracefully handled, being obvious and explicit while still feeling well incorporated into the story. the acting was great especially for a movie focusing on young teens. while it was a bit slow-paced and slightly predictable, it was a fun and short watch. i'd give it a 3/5 and recommend it if you liked "attack the block" and "the lost boys", and also if you have any young siblings or cousins to watch with! a real quality horror that's good for a younger audience, we need more of those ^_^
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starrysharks · 4 months
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today i watched "saw vi" and I LOVED IT YEAH IT WAS PEAK ‼️‼️healthcare insurance executives dying and mark hoffman cringe... what's not to love...
firstly, the story in this movie was far easier to follow along than most of the previous installments. it was always clear what was a flashback and what wasn't, mainly because dead characters like john and amanda were almost always present. also, they were both really good in this movie. john's rant on healthcare was #BASED and literally everything mandy said and did was super interesting and it makes me wish we got to see more of her in general. jill was also more prominent, and the way she differs from kramer in terms of philosophies but is still somewhat influenced by him is soooo woaw
the story here was also interesting, though these movies have taken a bit of a formula of being "one guy goes through the torture labyrinth meanwhile a jigsaw is doing crazy shit meanwhile flashbacks", but it still felt different to the other movies, especially because the main players in the games were mostly morally rotten or questionable. the philosophies here were cool and thought-provoking, on who deserves to live and all that - and that was excellently shown through the traps holy shit the spiral trap was literally so peak. the way the six were basically william's "bullets in the chamber" and it was taken to the literal extreme, their testimonies and arguments, the symbolism the tension ough my gad. not a trap, but the "right now you're feeling helpless" scene was my favorite in the whole movie after the spiral trap, once again the tension is done excellently with the repeating phrase and hoffman just killing everybody the second he knows he's fucked was really cool even tho u knew it was coming. babygirl moment
what i didn't like about this movie? well the pacing was a little slow in a few places but it wasn't that bad at all. i really can't find anything glaringly bad here that isn't standard for a saw movie (such as over-the-topness or hammering you over the head with a point multiple times). i honestly loved this one. the ending was great, the callbacks were fun, the traps looked cool, the gore effects were great (especially at the end when william's guts melted and shit, i was ewwwwwing the whole time (but like in a fun way))... my fav saw since the first to be honest. 3.8/5. no gordon but they still keep talking about him. my prayers for jill to be more relevant got answered tho <3
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starrysharks · 6 months
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today i watched 'saw' (2004). this is my confession - i've actually never watched a single saw movie... but i went into this blind, only knowing that at some point, someone would have to cut off their foot. it wasn't as gory as i'd expected, but the story was still really compelling, especially at the ending with the big plot twist. dr gordon was really interesting, but i wish we got to know more about adam and his family situation (though it will probably be explained in the later sequels? i don't know). i didn't expect it to end on a cliffhanger, but now i really want to watch all the sequels!!! i'd give it 4/5 because for a movie that is 2/3rds two guys talking in a bathroom, it was really different and had a great atmosphere and mystery.
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starrysharks · 6 months
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today i watched the horror movie 'talk to me' - the fact that it was made by two comedy youtubers is really surprising because it was very dark. some spoilers here, but i thought it was really interesting how the main character became so attached to the ghost summoning hand and it became more and more unclear what was actually happening and what was just her imagination, and if what she was doing was right. there were two specific scenes that i REALLY did not enjoy (iykyk), but otherwise it was an alright film, so i'd rate it 3/5. recommend to those who can handle some bloody scenes (including a lot of heads being hit on walls!) and fans of possession stories and good room for interpretation.
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starrysharks · 4 months
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today i watched "the ballad of songbirds and snakes". i'm already a big hunger games fan having read all the books including the one this movie was based on, and this is honestly a stellar adaption of an already good book.
firstly, the acting and casting in this movie is amazing. everyone's performances were great and it really elevated the story, especially for viola davis' dr gaul. the story itself, while i was already familiar with it, was also compelling - very nuanced and extensive with its display of resistance, propaganda, and dystopia in a way that's all too realistic. the adaption was faithful and clean, and there weren't any annoying changes.
the cinematography was OK, but i really liked the symbolism at the end with the rainbow, lady justice and snow falling, even if it was a bit in your face. the characters were all stellar. it was a bit long, yea, but it did good with all the time it had and didn't have any scenes that felt truly unnecessary. in the end i really liked it :) i'd give a 4/5. i really need to reread this series too *w*
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starrysharks · 2 months
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today i watched "sucker punch" by zack snyder. letterboxd's reviews for this one are super indecisive, but honestly, i had a lot of fun watching this - though that isn't to say it's a good movie. it has MANY issues, mostly being surface-level societal commentary at best and overly fetishistic at worst, with some scenes being corny and drawn out, and having a kinda confusing weird ending - but ignoring that, it was super entertaining.
i loved the color grading and fight scenes a lot, and the characters - while a bit lacking in dimension (ಥ﹏ಥ) - had nice relationships with each other and i felt genuinely sad when a lot of them died before reaching their goal. the music remixes are cool, the outfits the girls wear when they fight are cool, and the whole "badass videogame-esque cute battle girls" thing appeals to me a lot aesthetically. in short, it's only good if you turn a bit of your brain off as you watch - 2.4/5 ! also if you like oscar issac his acting is really good in this one (even if i hate the character he plays omg blue go die please)
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starrysharks · 4 months
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today, i watched "saw 3D". it was a moving picture.
i'm surprised that they went off the rails for the most part of this movie (not in a good way) like this. firstly, this movie probably has the worst starter trap in saw history 💀 it was framed so ridiculously that i thought "oh, they're showing a fake trap that's being done as a prank or something" until the girl actually got sawed in half. even when blood got spilled i thought it would be revealed as ketchup later, and it was supposed to be a parody of how people view saw as over the top and silly.... but no that prank was legit.... the traps in general were a bit mediocre here, and the gore was really meh especially with the bright pink blood. iirc this movie and danganronpa came out in the same year which is a funny coincidence.
generally this movie was just sillier than the others and it was hard to suspend my disbelief with it. i think the breaking point was the car crash trap. hoffman killing a bunch of racists is lowkey #BASED but the way it's more or less him saying "when the lights turn off we're ALL black" is kinda funny. as well as that, the weird fanservicey parts (like the girl's outfit in the first trap) also took me out of the story.
other than that, the story of the movie was actually an interesting concept - guy fakes being a saw trap survivor and actually has to go through a saw trap, but compared to the other saw trap house guys, this one kind of blends in. also two teeth related tortures in one movie i feel like they're kinda running out of ideas (but that's just me nitpicking)... though i don't want to be too hard on this movie. my favorite trap was probably the one with his friend cale as it was pretty unique, didn't rely on gore, and had a good stressful atmosphere.
ignoring the main trap house plot, the continuous story here was pretty nice. hoffman going crazy and killing everyone is entertaining (even tho he killed jill </3), and gordon's big reveal was also cool, even tho i knew it was coming because i accidentally got spoiled. i think him looking at his severed foot at the end in the OG bathroom kinda showed how he left behind his compassion/a part of himself died, which if intentional was cool symbolism. i assume this really was supposed to be the final conclusion, so it makes sense that they had so many callbacks to the 2004 movie. but i wish they had more clues towards it besides bringing up gordon as much as possible in the previous movies.
this saw was not like the other saws i saw. people weren't lying when they said it was the worst - the story, while easy to follow along, was a bit dull and very silly (i know i've said silly a billion times i'm not good with words), and it really feels like its leaning in to the misconceptions and stereotypes that people give to these movies. however, it did show a huge plot twist that had an alright buildup and good conclusion. i'm giving it a solid 1.5/5, with .2 points added for john kramer's fire fucking fit at the book signing holy hell that shit was raw. hopefully saw 8 shows us who the other pig heads at the end were (maybe the other survivors at the therapy talk?) and also redeems the franchise.
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starrysharks · 6 months
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i've just finished saw iv, and i think this is the first saw where i had to go over the wikipedia summary after watching because i had no clue what was going on in the ending. but other than that i can say it was alright!
rigg was a very interesting protagonist, especially with the way he went about those in the traps. speaking of the traps, these ones were all pretty solid and creative, and the twist at the ending was also pretty cool. (plus eric's death was probably my fav in the movie - really unexpected and looked awesome!!!) the other characters were also intriguing, but i can't even guess how saw v is going to play out after this.
the editing in this movie was also really fun, even though i kinda miss the industrial music video-esque sped up clips of the first two films,,, but whoever was doing the transitions was probably having the time of their lives, they add a unique character to the film.
other than that, i feel like the pacing sped up a biiiit too much in certain points (though this is a shorter movie so maybe that's why it felt a little fast). also as i said the ending was a little hard to understand, though the rest of the film's story was fine in that department. that honestly could be because the plot is thickening so much. also i *really* wish that amanda stuck around for at least one more movie because she was so interesting and they did way too little with her ughh bring her back please. ok this one is a 2.8/5 (.2 points removed for showing me john kramer's dick and balls). please can we get gordon back they've referenced him in 4 movies now,,,, 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
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