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8:17 pmpdt 11 April 2023 Tuesday
Wow. I guess everything IS a lie. Spine pain 😖😭. No hope for a future. He keeps attacking me with acid. Diarrhea tummy ache green auto save saw through keyboard ⌨️ a minute ago. He keeps showing me signs 🪧 with time big bit. I guess I AM going to bite the dust in a big way. There really is nothing to fight for. Nick Carter is going to win. My body is going to be completely eaten away by acid. 8:22 pmpdt wow. Prostitution and human s*x trafficking will continue. Framing of people who did nothing will continue. And no one will care. Q intentionally wanted me with Scott who she thought 💭 was bad, and still decided she wanted me with him instead of a real nice guy. 8:25 pmpdt seems like I’m never going to win anything. 8:25 pmpdt left foot 🦶 bone 🦴 pain 8:26 pmpdt 😖😭 I guess I’m not trust worthy. 8:27 pmpdt
12:01 am pdt what is a holy grail? King 🤴 Arthur looked /searched for it. Holy = virtuous. I read it might be the cup? Plate? Jesus Christ used in the last supper. Mrs. Davis Tv show commercial. Taza = cup? In Spanish. Tazo = tea 🫖 brand. If you look 👀 at languages some words are borrowed and transliterated? T becomes D or vice versa?? F’s <-> p’s. S<-> z ??????? Spanish assigns genders to things with o’s and a’s. Some a’s sound like o’s? E’s sound like a’s. 12:08 am pdt I want to look 👀 at (scalp sharp pain 12:08 am pdt) how far back words like ooyasuminasai go in nihongo, Bcz it’s very similar to Greek. So I wonder 💭 if this goes very far back maybe 2000 years? With the apocalypse being written in the Bible, and John writing letters to churches ⛪️ and it said to a church ⛪️ in Asia Minor? I don’t remember where that is. I wonder then if Greeks went to Japan 🇯🇵. 12:11 am pdt 12:12 am pdt
1:59 am pdt there’s news 📰 that a man 👨 is running around grabbing women by the genitals. That’s probably been happening for years in Berkeley Bcz I heard a similar thing when I was there, sometime btwn 2008-2009? Makes me wonder 💭 if all he or they been doing is grabbing and then letting of and running 🏃‍♂️ away, makes me think 💭 it could almost be like a frat dare. 2:02 am pdt
I think a stabbing also happened at a frat party around that time. 2:03 am pdt
6:01 pmpdt 6:02 pmpdt brains 🧠 storming all things that probably (autocorrect: should don’t won’t) should have helped: collection and separation of food scraps for composting at all residents and businesses, mandatory recycling at all locations of every material, more forest 🌳 maintenance year round for forest renewal and composting. 6:08 pmpdt I felt another large chunk of bone 🦴 was taken from me and now I walk differently. I m feeling delusional? About it to cope with it, but I’m sure the truth will hit me hard when I hear it and when the big thing will actually happen to me. I’m not looking forward to it. It started when I was 32 years old even though my paternal grandmother 👵 had my uncle when she was 35 years old and my mother’s sister had her daughter when she was ≈40-42 years old (I remember it was 42 she said? But I doubt myself so margin of error going back to 40 years old 6:12 pmpdt). Menopause can happen starting early 30’s. 6:13 pmpdt last gynecologist in 2018? Said I was ok 👌. Didn’t mention menopause at all. 6:13 pmpdt if my hip bone 🦴 suddenly needs help I will consider all health professionals unprofessional and negligent. 6:14 pmpdt and I will have to have them investigated for conspiracy and 👀look for who put them up to the negligence. Was it Cano? Was it Brendan Lean? Was it incubus (Adam Noah Levine)? Are we still in denial of god’s existence and going to play this game? Role playing? Or are they going to say it to my face like my aunt? Either way I’m a loser. I lose my bones 🦴 then I’m a loser and I probably did an unnecessary favor for those who don’t deserve it. Nick carter should not go to court. We should let him run free! And find his next victims without impediment? Maybe she will be someone rich 🤑? Maybe he’ll be smart and attack someone he can actually get money 💰 from? You don’t know what you got til it’s gone they paved paradise and put up a parking lot 🎶🎼🎵🎤 6:19 pmpdt
6:23 pmpdt was it only rich women who wore corsets? I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️ much. 6:23 pmpdt
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2017 Album-A-Day List (June 18th)
Here it is!! The list I have been talking about, these are the albums that I have listened to so far this year. I am slowly making my way through an annotated version so that you can know my feelings on each record. That will be on here shortly enough. But for now, here’s the list as of the 18th of June. Check them out!!
Alphabetical Order: As of 6/18
A:
Actress - AZD
Anderson .Paak - Malibu
America - America
Angel Olsen - Half Way Home
Animal Collective - Marriweather Post Pavilion
The Avalanches - Since I Left You
B:
BADBADNOTGOOD - BBNG
Beach House - Depression Cherry
Blank Banshee - Mega
Big L - Lifestylez ov da Poor & Dangerous
Big L - The Big Picture
Bob Dylan - Empire Burlesque
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
C:
Capital STEEZ - AmeriKKKan Korruption
Carly Rae Jepsen - E•MO•TION
Chance the Rapper - 10 Day
Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap
Chance the Rapper - Coloring Book
Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
Childish Gambino - Because the Internet
Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love
Clarence Clarity - No Now
Crosby, Stills, & Nash - Crosby, Stills, & Nash
Crywank - Tomorrow is Nearly Yesterday and Everyday is Stupid
D:
Danny Brown - The Hybrid
Danny Brown - XXX
Danny Brown - Old
Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition
Death Cab for Cutie - Transatlanticism
Death Cab for Cutie - Narrow Stairs
Death Grips - Exmilitary
Death Grips - The Money Store
Death Grips - No Love Deep Web
Death Grips - Government Plates
Death Grips - Fashion Week
Death Grips - The Powers That B
Death Grips - Interview 2016 EP
Death Grips - Bottomless Pit
Denzel Curry - Nostalgic 64
Denzel Curry - Imperial
E:
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
Earl Sweatshirt - Doris
Earl Sweatshirt - I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside
Eric Clapton - Eric Clapton
Everything Everything - Get to Heaven
F:
Father John Misty - Fear Fun
Father John Misty - I Love You, Honeybear
Father John Misty - Pure Comedy
Feist - Let It Die
Fleet Foxes - Sun Giant EP
Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
Fleet Foxes - Crack-Up
Flying Lotus - 1984
Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
Frank Ocean - channel Orange
Frank Ocean - Blonde
Freddie Gibbs - Shadow of a Doubt
Freddie Gibbs - You Only Live 2wice
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Piñata
G:
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Life Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
Grizzly Bear - Horn of Plenty
Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
H:
Harry Styles - Harry Styles
I:
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
Isaiah Rashad - Cilvia Demo EP
Isaiah Rashad - The Sun’s Tirade
J:
J Dilla - Donuts
J. Cole - 2014 Forest Hills Drive
J. Cole - 4 Your Eyes Only
Joey Bada$$ - 1999
Joey Bada$$ - B4.Da.$$
Joey Bada$$ - All-AmeriKKKan Badass
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Joni Mitchell - Ladies of the Canyon
Joni Mitchell - Blue
Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark
K:
Ka - The Knight’s Gamble
Ka - Honor Killed the Samurai
Kamasi Washington - The Epic
Karriem Riggins - Alone Together
Kendrick Lamar - Section.80
Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d City
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
Kendrick Lamar - DAMN.
Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music
L:
The Long Winters - Putting the Days to Bed
Lorde - Pure Heroine
Lorde - Melodrama
M:
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On?
MF Doom - Mm.. Food
Mick Jenkins - The Water[s]
The Microphones - Don’t Wake Me Up
The Microphones - It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water
The Microphones - The Glow Pt. 2
The Microphones - Mount Eerie
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Mount Eerie - “No Flashlight” Songs of the Fulfilled Night
Mount Eerie - Lost Wisdom
Mount Eerie - Dawn
Mount Eerie - Wind’s Poem
Mount Eerie - Clear Moon
Mount Eerie - Ocean Roar
Mount Eerie - Sauna
Mount Eerie - A Crow Looked At Me
M83. - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts
N:
NAO - So Good EP
NAO - For All We Know
Nick Murphy - Missing Link EP
Nas - Illmatic
The National - The National
The National - Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers
The National - Alligator
The National - Boxer
Neon Indian - Psychic Chasms
Neon Indian - VEGA INTL. Night School
Neutral Milk Hotel - On Avery Island
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Noname - Telefone
Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
O:
Oddisee - The Iceberg
P:
The Pablo Collective - The Death of Pablo
Perfume Genius - Put Your Back N 2 It
Perfume Genius - Too Bright
Perfume Genius - No Shape
Phoenix - Ti Amo
The Postal Service - Give Up
Q:
Quelle Chris - Being You is Great, I Wish I Could Be You More Often
Quasimoto - The Unseen
R:
Radiohead - Pablo Honey
Radiohead - The Bends
Radiohead - Kid A
Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
Ratt - Out of the Cellar
Red House Painters - Down Colorful Hill
Run the Jewels - RTJ3
S:
Sampha - Process
(Sandy) Alex G - Rocket
Shabazz Palaces - Black Up
The Shouting Matches - Grownass Man
Soft Cell - Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret
Spoon - Hot Thoughts
Squarepusher - Feed Me Weird Things
Squarepusher - Music is Rotted One Note
Squarepusher - Go Plastic
Substantial - The Past is Always Present in The Future
Syd - Fin
T:
Thundercat - The Golden Age of Apocalypse
Thundercat - Drunk
Todd Terje - It’s Album Time
Tonedeff - Polymer
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Tycho - Past Is Prologue
Tycho - Dive
Tycho - Awake
Tycho - Epoch
Tyler, The Creator - Bastard
Tyler, The Creator - Goblin
Tyler, The Creator - Wolf
Tyler, The Creator - Cherry Bomb
U:
V:
Vagabon - Infinite Worlds
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
Vince Staples - Summertime ’06
Vince Staples - Hell Can Wait EP
Vince Staples - Prima Donna EP
W:
Warren G - Regulate… G Funk Era
Wavves - You’re Welcome
X:
X - Los Angeles
The xx - I See You
Y:
YG - Still Brazy
Young Pappy - 2 Cups Part 2 of Everything
Your Old Droog - Packs
Z:
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We’re going back in time this episode as we talk about our Childhood Favourites! (Or childhood favorites for the Americans.) We talk about problematic faves, Matthew drones on about X-Men comics, and we can’t figure out a book we’ve all read and enjoyed. Plus: Mysterious clunking noises and sloppy editing!
You can download the podcast directly, find it on Libsyn, or get it through iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or your favourite podcast delivery system.
In this episode
Anna Ferri | Meghan Whyte | Matthew Murray | Jessi
Books and Other Media
The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkien
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl
Calvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson
Garfield by Jim Davis
Cul de Sac by Richard Thompson
Alfie Gets in First by Shirley Hughes
Stellaluna by Janell Cannon
Princess Prunella and the Purple Peanut by Margaret Atwood, illustrated by Maryann Kovalski
The Happy Prince by Oscar Wilde, adapted by Jane Ray
The Twelve Dancing Princesses by Marianna Mayer, illustrated by Kinuko Y. Craft
Caps for Sale: A Tale of a Peddler, Some Monkeys and Their Monkey Business by Esphyr Slobodkina
The Snowy Day by Ezra Jack Keats
Blueberries for Sal by Robert McCloskey
Angelina Ballerina by Katharine Holabird, illustrated by Helen Craig
Rabbit and Skunk and Spooks by by Carla Stevens, illustrated by Robert Kraus
Halloween 2017 Google Doodle
Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss
Sideways Stories from Wayside School by Louis Sachar, illustrated by Adam McCauley
Captain Underpants by Dav Pilkey
Magic Tree House by Mary Pope Osborne
Mrs. Piggle Wiggle by Betty MacDonald
Mud Puddle by Robert Munsch, illustrated by Sami Suomalainen
Thomas' Snowsuit by Robert Munsch, illustrated by Michael Martchenko
Goosebumps by R.L. Stine
The Beano
The UK Dennis the Menace
Dennis the Menace to stop bullying ‘gay’ Walter (article)
The Boxcar Children by Gertrude Chandler Warner
Young Indiana Jones
The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (based on the TV show)
Sweet Valley High  by Francine Pascal
Baby-sitters Club  by Ann M. Martin
The Baby-Sitters Club Graphic Novels adaptations by Raina Telgemeier
Heidi by Johanna Spyri
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
A Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett
Alanna: The First Adventure by Tamora Pierce
Wild Magic by Tamora Pierce
Trickster’s Choice by Tamora Pierce
Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks
Redwall by Brian Jacques
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle
The Eye of the World by Robert Jordan
Gormenghast by Mervyn Peake
Excalibur
The Dandy
The Topper
The Beezer
Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles
Age of Apocalypse
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Dragon Ball Z
Dorothée Magazine (French Wikipedia)
Sailor Moon
Ranma ½
The Adventures of Tintin by  Hergé
Lucky Luke
Asterix and Obelix by René Goscinny and Albert Uderzo
Babar the Elephant by Jean de Brunhoff
The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton
The Giver by Lois Lowry
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman
The Book of Dust is a prequel, published in October 2017, to the His Dark Materials trilogy
The Ruins of Ambrai by Melanie Rawn
Perdido Street Station by China Miéville
Harry Potter by J.K. Rowling
Where the Sidewalk Ends by Shel Silverstein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
The BFG by Roald Dahl
Matilda by Roald Dahl
Links, Articles, and Things
Matthew tried searching for something about locks in the UK, but ended up finding websites talking about canals
The nostalgic beauty of the Scholastic book fairs
Bandes dessinées
The Halloween episode of our podcast
Questions
What are your childhood favourites?
How problematic are they looking back?
Do you still have copies of any of them? Why or why not?
Isn’t the list of titles this month way too long?
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Join us again on  Tuesday, December 19th when we’ll be discussing the “genre” of Books Turned into Movies and TV Shows!
Then come back on January 2nd, for our Super Special Best of 2017 episode!
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illjuststayhere · 6 years
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Films & Movies I Watched in 2017
JAN - 1. The Big Short 2. Kingdom of Dreams and Madness 3. Creed 4. Slow West 5. Mad Max: Fury Road (Black & Chrome) 6. The Lobster 7. Green Room 8. Into The Forest 9. The Thin Red Line 10. Mad Max: Fury Road (Color) 11. The Sea of Trees 12. Bridge of Spies
FEB - 13. Bonetomahawk 14. Straight Out of Compton 15. Black Mass 16. A Single Shot 17. Finding Dory 18. The Sunset Limited 19. Hell or High Water    20. A Simple Plan 21. Inside Llewyn Davis
MAR - 22. Maggie 23. Dr. Strange 24. The Place Beyond the Pines 25. Captain Fantastic 26. Z for Zachariah 27. Shotgun Stories 28. Buried 29. Zodiac 30. Se7en 31. X-Men: Age of Apocalypse 32. Magic Mike 33. Boogie Nights 34. Full Metal Jacket 35. Anthropoid 36. Barry 37. Less Than Zero 38. Moonlight
APR - 39. A Monster Calls 40. Letters From Iwojima 41. Trespass Against Us
MAY - 42. Guardians of The Galaxy 43. Split 44. The Accountant 45. Sicario 46. Guardians of The Galaxy 47. Logan 48. War Machine 49. Mafuni: The Last Samurai 50. Kicks
JUN - 51. Red Beard 52. Don’t Breath 53. Nevada Smith 54. The Big Burn 55. Yojimbo 56. Selma 57. The Conversation 58. The Shawshank Redemption 59. 1898 Los Ūltimos de Filipinas 60. Unforgiven 61. No Country for Old Men 62. Get Out 63. The Dark Knight
JUL - 64. Ride in the Whirlwind 65. Days of Heaven 66. Star Trek Beyond 67. To Live 68. The Birth of a Nation 69. Shimmer Lake 70. The Long Goodbye 71. Appaloosa 72. Mountain Patrol 73. Here Alone 74. 12 Angry Men 75. Y Tu Mamá También 76. Dawn of the Dead (78) 77. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button 78. Erin Brockovich 79. Rogue One (A Star Wars Story) 80. Blood Simple 81. Dunkirk 82. Mad Max: Fury Road
AUG - 83. Memento 84. In the Mood for Love 85. Chunking Express 86. Crimson Peak 87. Hateful Eight 88. Legend of Tarzan 89. Friends of Eddie Coyle 
SEP - 90. Free Fire 91. The Bird Cage 92. 8 Mile 93. Ant-Man 94. Paris, Texas 95. The Lost City of Z 96. My Beautiful Broken Brain 97. The Discovery 98. The Bad Batch
OCT - 99. Gerald’s Game 100. Blade Runner 2049 101. Milk 102. The Hero 103. Girlfriend’s Day 104. Inside Man 105. Big 106. As Good as it Gets 107. 1922 108. Arrival 109. Dark Night (NOT BATMAN)
NOV - 110. Death Becomes Her 111. Michael Clayton 112. Wonder Woman 113. Legends of the Fall 114. War for the Planet of the Apes 115. Spider-Man: Homecoming 116. The Meyerwitz Stories (New & Selected) 117. Baby Driver 118. Field of Dreams 119. Jim & Andy: The Great Beyond 120. Ingrid goes West 121. Bram Stoker’s Dracula 122. Rise of the Planet of the Apes 123. The Shallows  124. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 125. War for the Planet of the Apes (again) 126. Fences 127. Kong: Skull Island   
DEC - 128. Logan Lucky 129. The Number 23 130. While You Were Sleeping 131. Star Wars: The Last Jedi 132. Big Fish 133. Certain Women 134. The Trip to Spain 135. Jingle All the Way 136. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (unfucked with edition) 137. Man on the Moon 138. The Nightmare Before Christmas 139. Guardians of the Galaxy 140. Ed Wood 141. Phantom Thread 142. Looper 143. Gone Girl
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rav used the meangirls-y anti bs to raise real concerns, clearly a bad move IF she actually thinks there are real concerns. I was there for the argument that drove z out of rav's server and uhh. rav deleted the logs after lashing out. rav was incredibly condescending and reactionary to z specifically often. I'd be worried to call her level headed or promote her personal beef, from my POV. both sides lack credibility or clarity.
I'm not sure exactly what your premise is in this first sentence, anon. Rav's post didn't use anti language or the meangirl tone of davy's group, and rav's post IS the most level headed post *I have seen* about the situation, because she talked about REAL experiences without slinging around the types of (as far as I've seen, STILL unwarranted) dog whistle accusations davy and them were, and other people I have similar respect for commented about their similar experiences WITHOUT RESORTING TO DAVY'S TACTICS.
Also, just as an aside, it's really funny to me that someone would complain about rav being condescending but not zxro. This is a nonstarter.
I'm not even involved in this. I didn't interact personally enough to know definitively who did what and why. I wasn't in ANY of those servers or DMs! Therefore, I have to rely on my best judgement according to the information I do have, the people I trust to give me good faith information based on past experience, and the small amount of interactions with zxro that left me uncomfy.
I've spoken to people on the sidelines like me, ostensibly on zxro's side if by nothing more than circumstance, and I can't really blame them for still liking zxro or his writing, or wanting to defend him from the very dangerous accusations davy and them were spreading. If they haven't had or seen the negative interactions other people have, they're likely just doing their best to figure out the situation, same as me. Their personal biases towards zxro will inevitably play a part in their perspective, but that is just human nature. I have no beef with anyone in zxro's circle at this point, unless I see similar bullying behavior to what davy's group is doing.
I've spoken to rav briefly about this situation, and read her post about it. I totally understand why it would be difficult to address this issue before; it can be agonizing to parse when something IS a big enough red flag that you should warn people about before something huge happens. Because not everyone's red flags are the same, or at the same levels, and because this fandom is already rife with clashing personalities, and because of thousands of other micro-reasonings we all rely on to get along every fucking day. So, while I think it's unfortunate it didn't come out sooner and in a different way, I also don't blame rav for not making a callout or something.
You're on anon, and I have no fucking clue who you are, so why should I just take your word over rav's?
But I'm not even here to play he said she said. I already said in my original post that I'm not happy with EITHER SIDE, so did you come here to reiterate? I don't want to be involved with either side -- and here I am talking specifically about the people involved in the bullying campaign of zxro, but also zxro! I'm not into any of this drama, and I don't feel a loss at the idea of not seeing zxro OR davy OR angel on the dash, or anyone else that wants to continue dragging this corpse through ANTI BULLSHIT. I am cutting my fandom losses.
I honestly don't know what the best way to address the real issues would've been, but the way davy's closeknit group did it was the WRONG way. Anyone throwing around the terms of pedo and 'cp' immediately discounts anything meaningful they may have to say, because I can't trust that it's in good faith.
Idk how to make you understand that it isn't ok to accuse someone of being a pedophile just because they're dating an adult you think they're too old for!! Idk how to make you understand that calling underage fanfiction 'cp' is harmful both because it's an incorrect, outdated term AND because the premise of the accusation is false. AND because the people that do that KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. They don't like that content and think it makes you bad, or that the thing they're mad about isn't bad ENOUGH so they have to spice up their bad feelings post with EVIL BUZZWORDS, because that will immediately get their followers attacking the thing they don't like because "*gasp* don't you care about the children?!" Oh, hello U.S. Republicans. When did you join SPN fandom??
Wake up, babe, new fandom factions dropped.
It really doesn't matter if there are truthful accusations about predatory behavior beyond the dog whistles at that point, because the premise of the accusations being spread through tags and replies was just a vengeful dogpile. It just looked like a friend group's petty argument that got nasty, rather than a pattern of behavior to be aware of. And a lot of the people NOT in the know who were concerned about the language being used, and the level of accusation, were told "it's an open secret" -- which it very much WAS NOT, as proven by all the confused DMs I've received. Y'all aren't as famous as you apparently think, jfc. I dont even know what your server is called and it's not the only one for wincest, thank fuck.
I only hope that after this whole thing, people will be both more aware and more mindful of how they're approaching interpersonal problems in fandom. I truly do not want to see new cults form here. The heller cults are enough for one fandom. 🙅‍♀️
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If you're involved in dragging zxro's corpse around with continued disgusting, and as yet FALSE, pedo accusations with your parody accounts and STUPID, NONSENSICAL BLAZED PARODY POSTS, I need y'all to seriously rethink your idea that you are the good guys here or why you are even in this fandom at all. Examine your relationship with maturity, and consider whether you belong in adult fandom spaces. You could just shut up and be privately happy he's gone-- in your server, the way you were probably privately so smug about all your vague posting before. You could let the fandom heal up and enjoy it here again. But no, you're gonna be fucking two year olds about it. This behavior makes YOU look like the biggest dicks and CONTINUES to overshadow whatever actual concerning behavior you think you're calling out. Y'all look like the puriteens that forced John Green off tumblr after the fucking cock monologue. You think this is king shit? Here's your fucking dunce cap 🔺️
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I was also there for the argument that drove zero out of Rav’s server and I think she overreacted but I think it was a long time coming. He’s like a dog with a bone, he had no clue when to drop the conversation after people wanted to, condescended to people constantly, insisted on having the last word all the time, constantly talked over people and mocked people to their faces under the guise of “it’s just a joke” I think Rav snapped at him but it was about time.
Thank you, anon. I appreciate this perspective.
Cut to spare the dash~~~
[Final thought burger: Let's take some time to rest and heal, remember the good friends and vibes we still have in this fandom, the good things we've created together, and come back together stronger.]
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Interpersonal things are rarely purely one-sided, but that doesn't mean the assessment of the situation as a whole wasn't valid. Again, since I wasn't there, I can't speak as to the facts or specifics of the situation. All I can say is, everyone in the situation was reacting from their own perspective and life experiences.
Not everyone gets along with rav, I get it. Not everyone gets along with me. Typically, everyone is going to have at least one thing that rubs them the wrong way, even in people they like. I cannot speak for rav here, but from my own interactions with her, and seeing her interact in other servers and on tumblr, I would guess her reactions during the argument were based on her total assessment of red flags, whether consciously or unconsciously, and the ripening tendency of our generation to have zero patience or fucks to give about being 'nice' past a certain point.
Sometimes red flags are nothingburgers. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes they stack to a point you can't ignore. The point of a red flag is a warning. Hey, pay attention here! Is there something more? There may be things that are thought of as common red flags, and there are personal red flags developed over time and personal experience. The people that were/are worried about zxro's behavior, as far as I can reasonably tell, have had varying degrees of negative interactions with him that have raised red flags for them. Some more worryingly than others.
For instance, I've already explained my own very little experience with zxro, but him saying he hated Sam and didn't watch the show was a red flag to me, even if he'd been joking (which I was unsure of at the time, and turned out to be real). Now, that red flag didn't mean he was an evil person, just that he might not be a person I wanted to hang out with. I didn't feel the need to go preaching about it to everyone because I felt at the time that I needed more information, and how he treated them in fanfiction would decide.
Other people, including people I'd consider not just mutuals but fandom friends, have told accounts of different sorts of worrying interactions with zxro, but once again since I do not have firsthand knowledge of those, I really can't comment on what my reaction would have been in their place. All I can say is that I do not have reason to distrust these people, and tend to regard their opinion similar to mine.
And I debated bringing it up, since I don't actually know zxro's age, and I'm not at all privy to anything about their relationship; but I can say I would not be comfortable with a 30+ year old dating my daughter at her age. Everyone's maturity level is different, but an adult that young I would be cautious about the idea, and want to counsel them to ensure they were safe and had autonomy and equality in the relationship. It would be a red flag, typically, yes, due to the disparity in lived experience vs general naivete. However, I do have personal knowledge of situations where this age gap was not predatory and worked out the way normal relationships do. Sometimes relationships just are, and they might work or they might suck but it doesn't make either party solely responsible. So, though a red flag, it requires other factors.
I really, truly hope that gwen is happy and autonomous in her relationship; it would break my heart to learn she is being manipulated or preyed upon; but many people have expressed concern over manipulative interactions with zxro, so they feel those other red flags are there, too. And that makes a difference in how seriously people react to this situation. Unfortunately, some people's reactions were despicable, childish, and dangerous-- and calling them out on it is just as important as calling out any other dangerous fandom behaviors.
Now, much as I DO appreciate this more even keeled perspective from the server, it would be kind of awesome of we could let this whole issue be put to rest on the dash. I'm pretty sure everyone is raw and exhausted. I, for one, was answering DMs all through my normal sleep time, and have had 2 (two) hours sleep and 1 (one!) oatmeal cookie with milk.
Let's take some time to rest and heal, remember the good friends and vibes we still have in this fandom, the good things we've created together, and come back together stronger.
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