#you can dislike hinny for any number of reasons

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Why Hinny bashing is outdated and needs to be stopped.

tw// swearing because I’m angry 

So what we are gonna do is admit that Harry Potter was bisexual as fuck, regardless of what “canon” tells us.

What we’re not gonna do is shit on Hinny for the same reason, because every time I see someone say that Harry was bi (which in my hc he is) I see people immediately go after Hinny for some?? Weird reason?? Like they’re saying that bc Harry didn’t end up with a guy that means he’s not bisexual?? Or that it’s not bi rep?? Not only is that biphobic but it also sucks for people who-like me- love Hinny and have to deal with the couple constantly getting attacked by basically every other ship involving Harry.

They didn’t have chemistry in the films because the films fucked it up (PLEASE STOP JUDGING HINNY FROM THE FILMS JUST IGNORE HINNY IN THE FILMS ENTIRELY. HARRY HAD MORE CHEMISTRY WITH NEVILLE IN THE FILMS. WITH HERMIONE BC THE DIRECTOR WAS BIASED. WITH HEDWIG. WITH FUCKING DOBBY). Harry had more chemistry with his high school bully than his future wife in the books bc R*wling made the mistake of describing the male characters from her straight female perspective.

But the chemistry was SO there had R*wling, idk, been a good writer. Ginny was underdeveloped bc of misogyny (no you can’t tell me otherwise), but at the same time, she was a pre-pubescent girl for like, half the books, and people are really out there like “Ginny came out of nowhere! She suddenly had this sassy personality that had never been seen before!”

Yeah cos she was a thirteen year old kid trying to recover from literal trauma after being groomed and possessed when she was fUCKING ELEVEN. I’m sorry she wasn’t punching people at the age of twelve to get Harry to notice her or whatever the fuck people wanted, but the point is, in this household we don’t tear down other people’s ships. I love Hinny. It’s been my comfort ship for as long as I can remember. And like literally everything else it was screwed up by bad writing.

#like I kept seeing people in yt comments going off at Hinny because it #cAme oUt oF noWhEre #thEre wAs nO chEmisTry #like shut up maybe Rowling’s just a bad writer you ever think of that #hinny the power bisexual couple and I don’t even care #you can dislike hinny for any number of reasons #nor do you have to ship them #but if your only reason is #it came out of nowhere and also I wanted Harry to end up with Draco so now I’m gonna attack hinny shippers #then get tf off my page alright I’m sick of the bashing #hinny #harry potter #Harry Potter ships #harry x ginny #ginny weasley

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For the salty asks: numbers one, five, six, and twenty through twenty-three please 😇

I live for the chaos so pls just... go off my dude

Ah Tay, reason #187893467 that I love you is that you indulge me in my rants <3

Salty asks are from this post!

K this got LONG so here's a read more!

1. What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?

Honestly even though I don't multi-ship often I DO usually get the appeal behind ships so this is a really short list. This will probably get me some hate but I still to this day can't get behind c/ex@ from the show that will not be named. But then again I do get the appeal of two super attractive women with chemistry and the whole ruler/ girl who makes the ruler change their ways thing. So I guess I get it even if I don't like it?

Also, and this is not to hate on Hinny, but Harry and Ginny from HP are not my cup of tea. I like what fandom has done for them but the actual content we get for them in the books (and movies, but I prefer the books) isn't enough for me to love them. Same with Mal and Alina from S & B/ Grishaverse, they're so bland to me in the books but the show is doing far better with them and actually making Mal ya know. Likeable. Again, I don't ship it, but best friends to lovers is top tier so I get it.

Oh! I also don't really get Dwalin/Ori from The Hobbit, but that is probably in large part because I'm a Dwalin/Nori shipper. Again though, all of the secondary characters' relationships in The Hobbit rely on fans to extrapolate HARD and wear extreme shipper goggles, and ik there's that scene where Dwalin helps Ori out of the river so like.. maybe that's where it's from? I don't hate it or anything but it's always something that's made me go ??? cause I have no idea where the heck it came from.

Apart from that... I can't think of any rn? I feel like I understand where all the PJO ships come from, even if I don't ship them. There are a couple that I don't understand how they can be someone's OTP, just because I find them super boring (no offense to those who ship C@leo or J@siper but I just don't love how Rick handled those relationships). In TSC I think fandom mainly vibes with the same pairings and that's true for most of my book fandoms. With the shows I watch I don't think fans majorly ship anything too out there for me. Maybe I don't interact enough with fandoms to tell. So this is all I got.

5. Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?

Oh my god, oh my god, this is a can of worms, my lord. A pairing I'm not so sure about, but characters? Abso-fucking-lutely. I took a break from PJO fandom for exactly that reason and the list of characters is endless honestly, for multiple fandoms.

I won't say fandom ruined Bell@rke for me cause I still ship it, but I definitely lost enthusiasm with how toxic the shows fandom was and then that was made even worse when the show completely destroyed itself with the worst writing and plots ever in the latter seasons.

Also I have a feeling that G@me of Thrones/ @soiaf ruined one for me but I can't remember this very second. Maybe not, and again that's probably cause I don't interact with fandoms en masse, usually just through fic and following a few people I vibe with in each.

6. Has fandom ever made you enjoy a pairing you previously hated?

Yes, quite a few! I used to dislike Drarry (for obvious reasons I feel) and Romione (as a kid I wanted Hermione to be with Harry and even when I grew out of that I really didn't like she was with Ron) but fandom changed that for sure. And same with Darklina now, I was upset cause I felt like the books really underutilized their relationship and fell short of what could have been a super awesome pairing if better explored, but the show fandom is taking it in so many different ways that I'm starting to really love them despite the reasons I shouldn't.

And I won't say I hated Hayffie in THG, but definitely the only reason I ship them is from reading @ellanainthetardis's fic Have a Drink Sweetheart and then all the others written for them. That portrayal of Hayffie and the characters have become my own headcanons now because I've been reading them for so long and they're so good.

Fandom made me ship Leon and Morgana from Merlin too, though that's very lowkey. I never hated them, I just never thought of them as a pairing until reading fic.

20. What is the purest ship in the fandom?

Percabeth. I don't care which fandom, it's Percabeth. Growing up together, going from enemies to friends to best friends to lovers? The establishment of them being best friends and the way Rick wrote that friendship was so pure, and they are a couple with no internal problems, all external, and you just know they're gonna be together through everything, fighting at each other's side, cause that's the way they are. There's a reason they're my OTP and it's cause they are the most well-established, ride or die couple I can think of. They're just so solid.

21. What are your thoughts on crack ships?

Love em for fandom but personally I very rarely get behind crackships just because I usually need a lot of build up, scenes, good dialogue and chemistry, etc. to ship something, so most of my ships aren't crack ships. The only one I can really think of that I actively root for and ship and would read fic for is Billy/ Owen from 911 Lonestar which is just... something.

Like idk if Barduil from The Hobbit is crack because ik it's quite popular... what makes a ship a crack ship anyway? Lack of canon reference? Is it cause they two characters would be so random together because they barely ever interact? Or because it's SO unrealistic you know for sure it will never happen but want it to anyway? Or is it lack of popularity in fandom? I need someone to define this so I have a better answer :D if it's the second option then I have MANY

I love seeing fandom stuff for crack ships though, cause seriously, it's fiction, ship who you want. If you ship two characters just cause you think they're pretty side by side then that's enough for me. Make all of the fan art and fic you like.

22. Popular character you hate?

Oof. Jason from HOO. And Leo in everything after The Lost Hero. I hated Piper in The Lost Hero and Mark of Athena but like her after those. I don't like any of the book characters from S & B except Nikolai, but I like everyone in the show (except David? Why did they make him so weird? Like he's not even awkward, he's straight up rude imo, but anyway). In @soiaf I don't like Jon Snow, I think he's boring. And I despise Jorah Mormont cause I think he's creepy for having a crush on Dany.

Didn't love Stefan in TVD, too much of a goody-two-shoes. I liked dark Stefan but it felt like a totally different character. Honestly most of the characters I don't like cause they're boring or too by-the-book.

OH! A big one in M@rvel is Captain America. Can't stand him honestly, I like him as a character to have in the story, but I like never agree with him on anything. I like a couple of his one-liners but that's it really. I also don't like Gale in THG, idk if that's controversial. Or Lex@ from the show that will not be named because I think she's manipulative and not good for any of the characters i DO love.

Is Ron popular? I think so. I like fandom Ron but not canon Ron and idk why. I think I'm growing out of it but I read those books when I was like 7 initially so I thought it was awful of Ron to stop being friends with Harry because he was jealous and I never really got over that.

There are so many but I'm gonna stop now.

23. Unpopular character you love?

Again, tons. I love anyone whose got kind of a tortured backstory because it makes them more interesting to me.

I love Movieverse Hawkeye! I think Clint is great and while I wish his deafness was canon in Marvel and I don't love J Remmer, I do love Hawkeye a lot. He was honestly one of the only Marvel characters that felt consistent and in-character throughout the movies.

I like President Snow from THG just cause I think he was a fantastic villain. And Effie and Haymitch aren't unpopular, but they're probably my favourites, again because of the fics mentioned above.

Leon from Merlin!! I don't actually think he's unpopular, but he's like... my fourth favourite character in the show which I know IS considered high for most people.

Sandor Clegane from ASOIAF. Not the show, just the books. His book character is phenomenal and I am so excited for GrrM to finish the goddamn series so I know what happens to him.

The Stolls and Katie Gardner from PJO cause fandom created Tratie and sucked me in at a young age.

Bellatrix Lestrange? Is she unpopular? I don't think so but she's another one I think is a fantastic villain. I'm almost more interested in her than Voldemort tbh.

That's probably it!

Thanks so much for the ask Tay, this was tons of fun! Anyone else who's interested can feel free to fill my inbox!

#taylor tag #ask games #look it's me! #now I'm just thinking of all the ships I hate and want to go off #i won't #but tay maybe you've awakened something in me that you will feel the brunt of later

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1, 5, 11 for the ship meme!

1. What was your first OTP?

Ooooh this is a tough one. My earliest memory of really wanting a couple together was back in fourth grade, when I set the school record for number of days tardy because Sailor Moon was on at 7:30 and school started at 8. And I wanted to be Serena and get to date Darien, of course. What a hunky guyyyyyyy~

My first OTP when I was really aware of what shipping was is probably Bangel. I love Spuffy too, but Bangel just... owns my ass and it always has. Then there were the epic HP wars (Hinny and Romione 5ever, tyvm--although I remember justifying my Hinny love when I first got into RP with ‘I wanna RP Harry’s kids with red hair and green eyes and Hinny’s the easiest way to get that!’), and my first real experience with tumblr-era fandom was the Delena vs Stelena ship wars. (Bet you can’t guess which side of that I fell on!!!!)

5. What is/are your least favorite trope(s)?

This is one of those things that’s hard to give a definitive answer to, because most of the time, I’ll say that I dislike something and then immediately think of an exception to the rule--usually because, with good enough writing, an author can sell me on just about anything, especially if I’m already invested in the characters and, again, is well-written. I will say that I intensely dislike will they/won’t they when it’s dragged out far past any reasonable level. Like, at some point, you’ve just gotta stop teasing your fanbase and just fucking commit to one or the other, otherwise you’re gonna risk losing both.

Along the same vein, love triangles are a really hard sell for me anymore--partly because it’s rarely ever a tough decision for me, personally, because I almost always fall in love with one side and either don’t care about or can’t stand the other, and partly because when love triangles are drawn out in any attempt to give both sides ‘equal treatment’, it inevitably resembles something like ping-pong, and it gets incredibly tiresome. Especially when one side does definitively ‘win’ the triangle, but the other side keeps being teased to keep those fans invested, which winds up harming the character and relationship arcs of all characters involved. (stares very very hard at TVD)

Also, you can really miss me with ‘some unspeakably evil person who’s committed horrific acts suddenly falls in love or feels bad one (1) time and flips a switch and is Good Now’ redemptions. Call me old fashioned, but I like redemption arcs, where you can see the person being redeemed actively attempt to atone for the horrible things they’ve done, preferably along with apologies to those they’ve hurt (who’re still alive, anyway), and works at least as hard at being good as they did at being evil. I don’t necessarily think anyone is ‘irredeemable’, but I do think there are like... levels of badness, and at a certain point a redemption arc needs to be adjusted for the level of monstrosity the person being redeemed was capable of, or else it will feel cheap and unearned (especially if it happens because of Love and literally nothing else).

11. What makes a great ship in your own opinion?

For me, it’s really all about the characters themselves--how they relate to each other, how they work together in and out of a relationship, and how they grow together. Tied up in that is, of course, the writing quality and the dynamics between the characters, and how their relationship affects their own lives, the story, and the lives of those around them.

Basically, I can be sold on just about anything, even the crackiest of ships, if it’s written well and the story is engaging and, above all, makes sense.

I have a huge weakness for enemies-to-lovers (or the slightly more elusive enemies-to-friends-to-lovers) ships--i love ‘slap slap kiss’ dynamics and UST and AST (that’d be angry sexual tension), and yes I’m very guilty of seeing two characters glare angrily and get into each other’s personal space and being ‘...... NOW KISS PLZ TY’. I just eat that shit up, all day every day. There needs to be something... dynamic about them, for me to really get invested I think. Some sort of push and pull (I tend to have a thing for Red Oni/Blue Oni type ships), and I’m a sucker for good ‘opposites attract’, and forbidden romance/star crossed lovers type shit. Two characters having to literally fight the universe and god and the devil and whoever else to get to be together??? Gods I could feast for ages. I love angst, but there’s got to be something in there for levity, otherwise I wind up extremely depressed and burned out. Conversely, I can enjoy some lovely, sugary-sweet fluff, but I need to intersperse it with something that has conflict or bite to it, otherwise I eventually get bored.

The best ships, imo, have lots of room for both fluff and angst and pain and happiness in canon and in fanworks. Which tends to happen when the characters involved have great character arcs, or at least potential, in the source material, particularly if they have a dynamic that has clear potential whether or not it was explored in canon.

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