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thewingedwolf · 6 years

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@princessnijireiki Ok first of all your phrasing kf everything here is 👌👌👌 and I'm cracking up BUT Yeah from what I remember basically the timeline is more like this (ignoring like actual passage of time bc idk that much and also like u said whoo do they play fast and loose but) 1. Ragnar dies 2. Great Heathen Army 3. Kill aelle 4. Sigurd and Ivar continue fighting together, leading the army as equals while Bjorn runs off to go terrorize France and the Mediterranean 5. This goes on for a number of years - I have no idea what the other guys were doing, I think ubbe and hvitserk had both died by this point? And I think they had like 2 more brothers who might have been off in other places doing shit too 6. Sigurd marries Aelle's daughter and converts to Christianity, which iirc, causes a rift with his brothers 7. Ivar and Alfred the Great have A Thing, I think their second big meeting? Where Ivar is finally like ok fine I'll stop trying to invade lol luv u bro and Alfred is like pls.......find Jesus u weirdo 8. Sigurd and his wife have a baby and he names the daughter Aslaug for his mother 9. Ivar mostly disappears from history at this point, probably goes to rule, possibly gets married, has one son, and then dies fairly young bc if like some great and mysterious pain and fever which probably means whatever it was that was wrong with his legs killed him So...........yeah Sigurd should deffo still be alive!!! They ran the army together!!! They were commanders for like 10 years together!!!!!! BJORN IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN FRANCE FAKING HIS DEATH AND GETTING INTO PARIS THAT'S LIKE HIS WHOLE THING????????? and yeah from what I understand, Ivar was a dickhead and p cruel and horrible but I gathered (from the little i know about the sagas, admittedly) that he wasn't so...........idk obviously and smirkily villainous? He was a smart person and a good tactician and I think more on the quietly cruel spectrum than he was on the "throws public temper tantrums that wind up killing his own brother" end of the spectrum. Like. Idk I don't mind them doing stuff with him thays more overtly cruel bc this is tv but. He commanded a huge deadly army, was disabled and still managed to fight his way into history I can't see him being that successful if he just went around murdering his family members all willy nilly. I was sorta looking forward to first Sigurd realizing the way he talks about Ivar is fucked and Ivar realizing that the favoritism and isolation from Aslaug would negatively impact Sigurd (even if that's not Ivar's fault and was badly shown on screen) and then Sigurd sorta coming to terms with his mother by naming his child after her! But then they did........whatever that was and its like should I be surprised considering the other stuff they've done? No. Am I still somehow surprised bc i didnt think they'd do something this ridiculous writing wise? YES.

#rani's liveblogging tag #rani liveblogs vikings #replies #I've only read bits of the sagas and the wiki of most of the characters so my memory isn't the best but like #I kno enuf to kno this is weird as fuck

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angrybrowngirlabroad-blog · 7 years

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Of Privilege and Punching Nazis

The title of this blog is “Angry Brown Girl Abroad” and it exists for two reasons. One is to record my adventures of my travels through Central America and my trials and tribulations as I struggle to learn Spanish and connect to my roots. The other reason is the “angry brown girl” side, a place to vent my opinions on my place in the world as an ambiguously brown, female in gender (most of the time) person from the United States. I’ve mostly used this blog for the former, and I tend to take to Facebook more often to voice my opinions on the latter, because, quite frankly, I think they are more likely to be seen and shared there. However, I feel like it’s time to explore my angry brown side a bit more in this space.

I actually haven’t posted anything on this blog in a few months. Part of this was because I was in a rush, and went back to the states for the holidays, which ended up being a very emotionally tumultuous time for me. When my feelings are in overdrive, I still turn to writing for comfort, but I rarely publish those deep feelings for anyone else to read. The holidays were hard for a variety of reasons, but the even harder part was coming back to the country I am currently staying in (Guatemala) and watching both the inauguration and coverage of the Women’s March on Washington from thousands of miles away, and the ensuing aftermath of both events. Watching your country implode from a distance is a strange feeling, you care, you want to be there, you can’t look away, you feel glad that you got out, you feel guilty that you got out, you struggle to enjoy your time here while you wonder if you can do more for the people still there. I’m working on finding the balance, but I’m spending a great deal of time on the internet these days, reading about each new horrible thing our incompetent commander in chief has cooked up that threatens the lives of POCs, LGBTQ people and disabled citizens. I am both constantly surprised by the lengths this administration is willing to go to, and also the response from people to it, especially within my own community. I am frustrated with them more specifically, as I find out where each person falls on certain lines in the sand. One of the ones that keeps coming up, weeks after I feel it should have been settled, is punching a Nazi (and, more recently, the violent opposition of Milo Y-I’mnotevengonnatryhesanasshole speaking at UC Berkley). I AM REALLY TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THE LAST IN LINE TO BE HURT BY BOTH NAZIS AND MILO YGAYNAZI TELLING PEOPLE IN THE LINE OF FIRE HOW THEY SHOULD REACT TO SUCH ABUSE.

Yep, I said it, I mean it. It is not at all a surprise to me that every person I have argued with personally about whether violence is justifiable against people who PROMOTE VIOLENCE has been a cis-hetero-white dude. I’m just mad that there are so many, and so many that I know personally, and that they have the audacity to call me, and the people like me to who disagree with me, names because we won’t agree with them that “violence is never the answer.” Violence should not be our first answer. Violence should not be applied willy-nilly to anyone who disagrees with us. Violence is, 99% of the time, the last choice from a marginalized group. You know why? Because it’s dangerous, because people don’t want to do it, and because the people most likely to suffer the worst legal ramnifications for using violence against their oppressors are minorities. Black men get shot by cops for doing literally nothing, you think they are going to actively choose to fight the police as their first move? Nah. Which brings me to another point: so many of these dudes who I’ve seen argue really hard against punching actual, confirmed Nazis, have been oddly silent on cases where POCs are killed, without justification, by police. They’ll go on and on about how minorities should not use violence to defend themselves, but say nothing for the victims of state-sponsored police violence. They get into a frothy fervor about hypothetical punching, but when was the last time they even acknowledged the tragic ends of Tamir Rice or Trayvon Martin? (Both are children and the last was killed by another citizen). Where is there outrage for the actual deaths of people, who espoused no genocidal beliefs, and were killed for the simple sake of being not-white? Is it because the punching of white dudes might actually affect them whereas police shooting them is pretty much a non-issue? I take note of who goes hard for what issues, I see you, and trust me, I’ve made note. But lets just say that said dude is not in this just for himself and his own preservation. Still, defending Nazis and the pasty scum that is Milo Yareyousoawful does not paint you in a good light. Its not like these are white dudes who said something questionable on the internet. Richard Spencer, the aforementioned Nazi who was punched mid-interview at Trump’s inauguration, is a confirmed Alt-Right (CALL THEM FUCKING NAZIS) leader who just launched a new website dedicated to the Alt-Right movement. His previous website featured the essay “Is Black Genocide Right?” and features the line: “we should instead be asking questions like, ‘Does human civilization actually need the Black race?’ ‘Is Black genocide right?’”* So, pretty clearly a Nazi. As for Milo Ywontyoujustgoaway, he is a Breitbart senior editor known for slinging hate who was supposed to speak at UC Berkeley but his engagement was cancelled after violent protests on campus. Milo Yifeelsorryforyourmom has built his empire on hate, he gained notoriety last year by leading the charge on Twitter that led to Leslie Jones (one of the stars of the new Ghostbusters) being harassed with a slew of racist, sexist, violent messages and tweets. This earned him a ban from Twitter, but didn’t stop his book deal.* In his speech at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee he outed a trans student named Adelaide Kramer, projecting a photo of her earlier in her transition for all of her classmates to see and calling on the audience to laugh at her as he degraded an misgendered her.* There are reports that, in his UC Berkeley address, that Milo Yohgawdshutup was planning to target students who did not have documentation to live in the United States. Milo Yuccccckkkkkkkkkk claimed that it wasn’t true, but that instead he intended to talk about cultural appropriation while wearing a Native American headdress, so either way the man is filth.* It’s not like these men are people who posted a questionable Facebook status, they have a documented history of advocating hate and abuse against people not like them. And we get told we cannot fight these men with fists because it would be “sinking to their level.” We can’t, though, not with a single punch. Hitting someone who advocates for the murder of an entire group based on the color of their skin is not comparable to, I don’t know, advocating the murder of an entire group based on the color of their skin. Unless you immediately start putting together armed groups and planning the next white genocide after you throw that punch, there is no sinking. Making someone reconsider their choice to espouse violent rhetoric in a public arena is a good thing, a thing that one wishes we could accomplish with protests, but clearly those protests are doing little to slow down the new Nazis in this country. Also, claiming that we’ll lose support of fence sitters and drive them to the genocidal far right because we’re advocating for Nazi punching is ridiculous. Anyone who is on the fence about support genocide or genocidal rhetoric is not someone whose going to change their mind if we are lenient on those who would see them hang. If you’re on the fence about genocide, well your fence is already pretty far past the line of decency anyways. Which brings me to my last point, the invocation that I have heard over and over again that we should try and talk things out with Nazis. That our words will be more effective than our fists. And to this I say, “Maybe yours, Mr. Hetero White Dude who keeps espousing this belief” because believe me, they are not going to listen to an ambiguously brown woman, with an ambiguous sexuality, talk to them about hating less. Those of us who are targets of Nazi hate should not be required to speak calmly to our oppressors about it, especially since some of the oppressors feel like we should be shot on sight. And telling us we should is ignoring and invalidating the very real and justifiable fears that we feel. Stop doing that, it’s a form of gaslighting.

The fact is, if Nazis are going to listen to ANYONE at all, it’s going to be another white dude. Which means these dudes defending the not-punching of Nazis, should put their money where their mouth is and go talk to Nazis. I want each and every one of you, before you come onto a status of a POC, LGBTQ or disabled person and tell them how violence is not the answer, to go to an alt-right forum, a Facebook page, hell, even in person, and engage in a peaceful discussion. I want receipts proving that you are willing to do the very thing you are preaching that the rest of us to do. I want to know your success rate for converting Nazis before you open your mouth about our methods. Since you care so much, go and do the work you wish to be done in the world. Maybe the two-pronged approach, discussion and violent opposition will be even more effective.

I’ll be over here, practicing my elbow strikes. PS: The First Amendment only protects your freedom of speech from the government shutting you down, it does not protect you from the people who you are calling for the murder of en masse from beating your ass down, so I’m gonna need all you crying out about that to get off that tired horse. Words have consequences.

* http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/17/richard_spencer_launches_the_alt_right_s_newest_website.html * http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/12/milo-yiannopoulos-leslie-jones-book-deal * https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/trans-student-harassed-by-milo-yiannopoulos-speaks-out

* http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/uc-berkely-protests-milo-yiannopoulos-publicly-name-undocumented-students-cancelled-talk-illegals-a7561321.html

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