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The big Kiwi talk

IT’S HERE. AND IT’S HUGE.

Dear many anons, I’ve kept you waiting there way too long my love. Also thank you @larrysballetslippers​​ in particular for bullying me into releasing this thing hahahah. I’m SORRY. This has been sitting in my drafts unfinished for so so so so SO long because I wanted to do it right and I still don’t know if I did but enough is enough. This is a big big long big post about the song Kiwi. Lyric breakdown, time of writing, many possible meanings, song parallels, music video, you name it. I know Kiwi has been analysed a lot a lot and this is not an alternate reading to anything, this is putting many possible interpretations together at once. Really I’m gonna bring a whole lot into this. Maybe read it in a couple of sittings. It’s a lot to digest. Let's go! Kiwi Kiwi Kiwi wooo

Under the cut (I warned you it’s long):

~Disclaimers, feel free to skip~

All this should be obvious but with other analyses where I didn’t state these things I got a couple of responses that show I should have so blabla incoming: 

Not trying to convince you of anything, don’t take things too literal, things can have multiple meanings, there are nuances to things even though I might fail to bring it in a nuanced matter sometimes. I’m nowhere trying to claim these interpretations are what he meant when he wrote this because how would I know (and people claiming other things don’t know either). Just decide for each thing if it makes sense to you, stay skeptical, crunch that brain and welp with this analysis you kinda have no choice this time because I’m giving a ton of different interpretations and they definitely don’t all fit together. 

All that said this is coming from someone who is convinced Harry & Louis are together and the lyrics at the very very least are incorporating babygate so just get ready to have that in here loads. It’s also written with the assumption whoever reads this knows all about that. If not have this. 

Song parallels disclaimer: with pointing out song parallels I’m not implying whichever song was written later is referencing the other one. I’m simply pointing out there parallels can be drawn and you can interpret it whichever way you like. Especially those between Harry’s and Louis’ lyrics it’s dare I say a realistic conclusion to draw that they are and will continue to have loads and loads of parallels in their work not because they’re doing it on purpose to relate to each other but because they’re going through the same stages together, hardships, and being exposed to the same shit over and over again, oh I don’t know maybe because they’re sharing a life. Although I do think some of the times they do purposefully leave lil nods to other songs because they are somehow related to the song they’re writing, and that sometimes those are each other’s songs, just know that when I point out a parallel that’s not because I’m thinking Louis’ music is based on Harry’s and vice versa or something. Ok got that out of the way.

Now really let’s go places:

Things known about the writing process

It was one of the first songs he worked on after 1D. We got footage of him singing it with long hair (gif above, credits here), so it was before may 2016, and this pic of I’m assuming the same moment:

He's said this about Kiwi:

"It started out as a joke, now it's one of my favorite songs. It's one of the first ones I wrote for the album, when I was getting out a lot of energy. I hadn't written in a long time and this is what came out of it." - here

There really isn't any other option to explain this song except for resorting to “haha jk lol” now is there?

“Getting out a lot of energy” I have trouble interpreting more than one way. I almost want to state it as a fact that it was him getting out a lot of frustration. Almost as if there was sOmEtHiNg really fueling this thing. I think the stuff he chose to get out there first as he went solo is very telling, with Kiwi being the 2nd released music video after Sign of the Times. He came out of 1D, went on a 6 minute strugglerant about being sad and stuck (in the industry/closet/his image) in a defeatist (but not entirely devoid of hope) kinda way and then followed it up with another 3 minute rant about losing it, shit happening around him driving him crazy, this is frustrating the fuck out of me I'm just gonna release that energy by yelling about the thing that frustrates me the most among all this bullshit over and over again let's go SHE'S HAVING HIS BABY AND IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS yes this is how I cope. I don’t know if this needs to be said really but I do think it’s about that, about babygate. (also there’s this idea it’s written by louis and I think that doesn’t make much sense) It’s really in your face, it’s so obvious it somehow becomes hard to believe he really did that but I do think he really did. That said, it could be that it’s not just about that, that it’s about all stunts, stunts in general, or even the whole (media/industry) circus, and that it includes details of both of the messes he as well as the people he cares about were/are involved in with the main one, the most frustrating one, being babygate. Still there are bbg-free alternate interpretations that I’ll get to as well.

Kiwi lyric breakdown:

She worked her way through a cheap pack of cigarettes

One line in and the scene has already been set: there’s a girl and she got no class.

There’s a lot of play on words in Harry’s songwriting and this song is no exception. So I already want to highlight the choice of the word “cheap” here and how it might be deliberate as later on there’s also a “business”, an “I paid for it/I’m gonna pay for this”, even the “cha-ching!”. He’s leaving a trace of a theme: money 

Parallel: Night out and it's ten grand, headlines that I can't stand - Just Like You

Who is "She"? Let’s list a whole bunch of possible interpretations (and with that, that of the whole song): 

It’s one specific girl the entire time as I’ve seen some not very deep interpretations of it being about ~certain girls he has been associated with~. And I’m not going into this whatsoever because NO

Still on that one girl, and the song is exactly what it looks like: a girl in da club every boy has got his eyes on, maybe not even anyone specific but a nice concept for a song with not much behind it (again, no.)

Still one specific girl the entire time, but yaknow babygate and first girl in line by a mile is definitely Briana, now we’re getting somewhere

an accumulation of girls he or those close to him have encountered that have had alterior motives (like stunts). That some lines include details of one of them and others being inspired by others.

the industry / fame / behavior of those in that world as a whole. The not-so-glamorous side of it that the insider, Harry, is seeing. Something looking great but it being a facade. Rock and roll, living fast, no real glory, hard liquor mixed with a bit of intellect

Harry is She, Harry is always all the She’s (I’m not going into this but really you can kinda make it work)

Hard liquor mixed with a bit of intellect

Yeah so whoever she is, she's just smoking something and drinking something  and she's not very smart either, he’s really not trying to paint her in a good light here.

I'm setting myself up here for another parallel: "Now we're saying goodbye, Waving to the hard times, Smoke something, drink something" in We Made It

And all the boys, they were saying they were into it

This of course is a way of describing this girl’s appearance/behavior is generally considered to be desirable. But! The ambiguity in this line I love so much. You can easily accept this as him insinuating he’s into it like everyone else and he’s one of the boys if you want it to. Orrr iiisssiiittttt?? He’s not saying he’s one of those boys. (Later on there is that “but I’m into it”, I’ll get to it.) All the boys, ya know the boys who like the girls, are saying that's what they're into. I'm not into girls, I have no clue, but look all the boys were saying they were so apparently this is of interest.

Parallels: 

"The boys and the girls are in, I mess around with him/them, And I'm OK with it, I'm coming down, I figured out I kinda like it" - Medicine. I do think this is deliberate, although it doesn’t have to have the same meaning. But they seem to be written around the same time. It could be to weave songs (that were probably intended to be on the same album) together, just for the fun of it, or maybe even to use the same concepts for opposite meanings which I believe he’s done multiple times since (or all of the above, or none, who knows but the mermaid).

"told myself I kind of liked her" - Home. I know this line doesn’t look like much without context, but I think this line is vital to Home and its story, and that Home means a great deal to H, so, possible intentional parallel I’d say yes [please ask me about H vs home parallels] (this will come back)

And then another interpretation can be that “it” isn’t a woman at all, but a situation, a mindset, fame, this kinda lifestyle, *coughs* some “it” that has to end *coughs*, you name it.

Such a pretty face, on a pretty neck

Extension of the previous 2 lines, there's only a little bit of intellect up in that head on that neck there but at least it's something good to look at, or so I've been told.

Also it's really petty. To me this reads as ridiculously passive aggressive (not to mention the tone of this whole song, he's just aggressively screaming all of it), like he’s just focusing on the neck like he just wants to slit that throat.

She's driving me crazy, but I'm into it, but I'm into it

On surface level he's one of the boys that's into this girl right? That's the obvious. That's what the song seems to allude to, the thing you conclude as a casual listener: there's a girl he finds attractive, as does everyone else, she's driving him crazy with it and he's into it. So in part I think some of these lines are written with that concept in mind, in such a way that it supports both that idea and what the song is really about. Here we got a very easy line saying he’s finding her attractive basically, orrrrr iiisss ittttttt

First tho: more parallels on HS1 with this with in Only Angel & Carolina, we got more girls driving him crazy by just being and he's oh so extremely into it. (not including Woman as he doesn't really seem to be much into it there) And I totally interpret these songs in different ways, I’m just saying, casual-listener’s (or aggressive het harrie making everything about girls would count as well I guess) level it’s these themes again and again.

But then there's that second layer, that’s the driving me crazy maybe isn't a positive kind of crazy. And the part where he’s into it could mean many many many things

I’ve also seen yet another interpretation that being into it means that he’s stuck in the situation that’s frustrating the fk out of him, he’s part of it, whatever it is. And then lemme just add Golden: when it ends, don’t wanna let you know. SOTT: they told me that the end is near, he just wants to *** **

Another interpretation could be that he’s just going along with the boys, because they were just now saying they were into it, but then he’s backtracking with adding a kind of:

I'm kind of into it

Oop there it is again, the same parallels as mentioned above but it’s getting worse with 

“[all the boys said they were into her] I’m kind of into it” - Kiwi

"told myself I kind of liked her" - Home 

"The boys and the girls are in, I mess around with them/him, And I'm OK with it, I'm coming down, I figured out I kinda like it" - Medicine 

kind of. In the context of liking girls. Reminds me of them answering interview questions with shit like "I guess you could say that yeah" like.. Yeah KiNdA. But, not really maybe.

But also (I am GOING PLACES WITH THIS JUST STRAP IN HOLD ON TO YOUR GRANDMA)

I think songwriters sometimes are inspired by situations/events that don't really have a positive side to them but they add something positive to the song anyway ("but I like it" or they end on a twist where "but you came back to me" or someshit) otherwise the song isn't... fun... isn't attractive. The same goes for Stockholm Syndrome. So here it could be that this shit's just driving him off a cliff and he's losing it and that's just it, like he’s not into anything he’s just going insane but that won't do for a song, so he adds that he’s into that craziness.

It's getting crazy, I think I'm losing it, I think I'm losing it

when 2 excessive gifs, one painful one and a bear say more than a thousand words

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Oh, I think she said "I'm having your baby, it's none of your business"

Here of course we need to talk about the main message of the song, the elephant in the room, considering he wrote this song in the same months his enemy and other half of the horrible conspiracy that ruined their friendship had a "baby" that was also a huge target of another horrible disrespectful conspiracy and it really does seem none of his business doesn't it? Sorry but if this song is about anything but that and the having a baby is an analogy of literally anything else, that's one hell of a poor word choice then isn't it? There must have been someone, just at any point any point at all in this whole songwriting process going don't you think this is gonna come off as .. ya know.. that? Don't you think there was someone, anyone, at any point going like, hey, so, you know the only baby born in your near vicinity as far as fans know recently is that kiddo from that dude people think is secretly actually dating you like you're not being the most considerate of that baby and that family there maybe like but idunno it’s your choice. ?????

Aaaanyway, lyrically it's smart again: he goes "oh I think she said" as it's a double-triple-down on the I got nothing to do with it: “I think", like I don't even know, "she said”, so it's a woman saying something to someone, not even necessarily to him, it's like a telephone game indirect uh I guess that's what's going on. And then literally "it's none of your business", the 3rd indicator that the "you" (person “she” is telling she’s having his baby to) as well as the "I" (singer), whether that's the same person or not, got very little to do with the endeavour.

And not just that, but the way he decided to describe it's got nothing to do with him / he's got no say in the matter is interesting too: “it's none of your business”. That's it. It's business, it's a business, it's money. Someone is having someone's baby and it's another person’s business. It's a moneymaker. That's what it's for. Case closed.

Now okay let's just consider alternate explanations, let's just consider he doesn't give a poopy about babygate, this got nothing to do with that, then what is it? (also always consider it can be multiple of these things, really why not both, why not all) "having your baby" could also be a way to describe things being said about him in the media, as it’s just one of those celebrity rumors that fly around. (How many times has Jennifer Aniston been pregnant again?) I tried. And it even makes sense. I can try again: it could also be that “your baby” is the records he makes, and that “the suits” or whatever you wanna call it then take it and turn it into their business, take something he “birthed” to make a profit. And very successfully I might add. Both of these are entirely valid explanations and do make a lot of sense to me but also both of these could have been described in many other ways, yet he chose this. As I said above, if he meant either of these and definitely not bbg, that I’m wrong about everything and whatever narrative was being pushed about Louis’ life at the time (and still) is actually real (but I don’t think it is) then what an orrible orrible word choice this is.

~Drugs mentions coming up~

2nd verse:

It's New York, baby, always jacked up

Holland Tunnel for a nose, it's always backed up

Ok imma bring so many interpretations into this it’s a mess and imma pretend turning it into a list is somehow fixing that here you go:

First and easiest is that it’s just a coincidence and H is just totally awkward random, is that NY’s the place where you go when you want to make it big, where you got aspirations to be somebody, where you go on your chase for fame. I rarely think name-dropping people and places are to be taken literal, especially not in Harry's vague mess so I don't really consider "He was in New York with a girl and that girl told him that she's having his baby" as an option here.

“Jacked up” is just a way to say someone’s full on drugs, so this person or lifestyle is never sober, so yeah themes here are money, drugs, and alcohol, which I think would describe the musician/hollywood lifestyle. There have been and are many many many many musicians out there writing about that life in this way.

Did I say she’s always full of drugs yet? Lemme just emphasize: nose always backed up

He really didn't back down with the the cokesniffing sniff right there in the song either, in case it wasn’t clear what that nose was doing.

He keeps describing this woman who is claiming to be pregnant as taking substances you shouldn’t be taking when pregnant. Possibly helping to describe she actually isn’t.

A person’s chase for fame (NY mention) just consisting of partying, just doing coke basically all the time (always jacked up / nose always backed up).

There's some HS1 song-linking going on here:

Ever Since New York. Same as in ESNY, he drops “New York”, then drops a more specific well-known part of NY (Brooklyn/Holland Tunnel). He only uses NY twice in his songwriting, here and ESNY, which are snuggling on the tracklist. Got a couple of theories here. (disclaimer again, if you think ESNY is about his stepfather and don’t feel like it’s up for debate, that’s fine, stay there and just skip this bit. If you’re open to alternate interpretations read this) So he's going insane in Kiwi and then he hits his lowest low right after in ESNY. I think first of all using the same keywords across songs on an album just helps create a whole, he weaves these songs together. Or it’s worse and the NY in ESNY = the NY in Kiwi, again again that sounds like ridiculous farfetched bs if you think ESNY must be about dealing with bad news about a family member and kiwi is definitely not that and yep here’s that link again but I don’t think it is, I think that in both songs “New York” describes either fame or is a nudge to another stunt.

Carolina - coke. But also screaming about a "she" that drives him crazy :) Harry you're driving me crazy :)

Ok now for the next line

When she's alone, she goes home to a cactus

Imma drag so many things into this just... like take a break, get some water, this is a mess. HAVE FUN. Anyway so. many. interpretations:

This girl when alone goes home to a dry prickly ornament. Like she's got nothing there, really only just a plant and not even one that requires love and attention either.

This is pretty much telling that she's not going home with him / he's not going home with her right? If this song is about some attractive femme fatale that Harry's into and has had interactions with to the point where she could be telling him she's having his baby, then, what's this sentence doing here? Like what's the point of this sentence if it's about that.

Song parallels:

It's kind of the opposite of Home. You'll never feel like you're alone, I make this feel like home.

She’s alone <> Harry’s never to be felt like he’s alone She goes home to a cactus [her home’s empty] <> Harry has someone making whatever *this* is feel like home [his home’s not empty] (and yes that’s a blatant assumption Home is directed at Harry, to me that was already clear and then he just piled on Canyon Moon on top of that so eh)

There's some song-linking mess within HS1 here again, with all the girls and their homes:

When she's alone, she goes home to a cactus, in a black dress, she’s such an actress - Kiwi

Couldn't take you home to mother in a skirt that short, But I think that's what I like about it - Only Angel

She's got a family in Carolina, So far away, but she says I remind her of home, Feeling oh so far from home - Carolina

But there’s another mention of Home on this album and that’s Harry having a Sweet Creature bringing him home instead:

Sweet creature, Wherever I go, you bring me home - Sweet Creature

What to do with this info? I uh.. can go places: girls are going to their homes, he’s going to his? But common word common theme, right?

now for the cactus

Cactus, dry. Harry wet. Cactus dry Harry wet. CACTUS DRY HARRY WET. (just imagine me saying this like GAVE ME COOKIE GOT YOU COOKIE like this scene in new girl)

Harry seems to thrive in wet, just, at all times throughout all his work. He's consistently putting himself or things he cares about in water, there's this just e x c e s s i ve need to put water everywhere, to be just a nautical anchor holding looking for his sailorman diving into deep ends, plunging in, seemingly preferring to drown over any other type of hurt, not to mention the only depiction of his uh mate in his work is a fish, it just goes on, everything is wet wet wet. So yeah cactus? Not his thing. Not his place, not his home, he got nothing to do with a cactus. Harry is kelp. Seagrass. A water lily. A lotus. The opposite of a cactus.

But I got another interpretation. Soooo cacti are associated with... how do I say this, dry desert-typey landscapes... otherwise barren lands right?. That, how would you say, don’t need much fertile grounds. That don’t .. eh... Barren.

Desert. Barren. Unfruitful. Infertile. Empty. Not Pregante. Not pragnent, no pregonate. NO PREGGERS.

I also think mentioning over and over again that really all this girl is doing is smoking, drinking, and seemingly permanently on drugs is a pretty good indication that she’s not really having someone’s baby I mean you don’t need a cactus to tell you that

(I'm secretly hoping you kinda went holy fucking shit there because I did I mean we know but pff)

In a black dress, she's such an actress

Black dresses I do associate with club goers, party girls. And welp pair that with she being such an actress, some bearding/PR stunt involved female vibes here

The black dress can also refer to a lyric (I’m aware little black dress exists but not sure if I can do anything with that info; also might as well state here that any lyric may refer to another lyric anyway) or a specific person / situation

Then I do have to mention there has been someone parading around with baby bumps in black dresses not that long before this was written... But I am very weary of these kinda pretty literal interpretations, he does seem petty af here so wouldn’t put it past him.

“she’s such an actress” is a good way to say she’s faking it, tying in with the previous line, how many ways is that now you can interpret things here as him saying someone’s saying she’s pregnant but she isn’t actually? So just a little recap:

When she’s alone she goes home to a cactus, in a black dress, she’s such an actress = She’s faking it in a black dress and when there’s nobody around she’s clearly not pregnant. hmm.

Moving on, 3rd verse:

She sits beside me like a silhouette

Some girl-im-associated-with-but-idk-her vibes. This makes me think of photos of public figures supposedly having whatever type of relations and photos of them are placed side by side in articles and such.

It’s also pretty much in line with the “she’s driving me crazy but I’m into it” interpretation of not being able to escape this situation he’s in, he’s into it, part of it, she’s always there like a shadow (silhouette beside me) and it’s frustrating the fk out of him.

BUT I GOT ANOTHER INTERPRETATION AND THIS IS GONNA GET A BIT WILD and nasty:

Silhouette/shadow/synonyms of these can also be analogies of public images vs their true selves, they’re two dimensional mirrors/reflections, not them but look like them etc. But I don’t see how that makes all too much sense in the context of the rest of the song unless this verse and this verse only is doing something else entirely. Which is possible? It’s a mess, but here we go:

Then with that said I can bring in some more parallels: this kinda somewhat mirrors “Who’s that shadow holding me hostage” - Stockholm Syndrome (it’s only shadow vs silhouette really) and even “beside you I’m a loaded gun” - No Control which.. I mean only works if you view those songs as being related (which I do) and also become a bit less of a joke when you get to the next line:

Hard candy dripping on me 'til my feet are wet

Oh so Hard like the loaded gun and then candy like the sweet treat that is “Sweet where you lay / Sweet and Sour, I devour” - No Control?

and it’s also.... dripping things... onto his feet.. Yaknow.. the ... medicinecandy that’s dripping out of.. something..hard... throw in a foot fetish while we’re at it

...

With the amount of lyrics (and what he’s said in interviews, and just done, just behavior in general) that can double as something dirty I wouldn’t be suprised. But does it fit the song? I guess it could. It could be like Stockholm Syndrome / No Control and even Kill My Mind and Back To You, which you can all read as having that double meaning of being stuck / not having control over the difficult and frustrating situation they’re in (being the in the crazy music industry / PR shit / fame / you name it) but also about a uh..? ~not boring~? let’s put it like that? relationship, or even both simulaneously: Like this shit is killing me but ~the things we do behind closed doors~ serve as an antidote and help me feel better. Maybe, maybe not. None of these lines are all too convincingly alluding to that on their own but there seems to be a bit of a pattern here right? she says while trying to ignore the 6 years worth of footage of them being nasty right in front of our salads.

Also “till my feet are wet”, they were dry but the hard candy is making them wet. Like I said before harry’s thing is wet, which helps the idea this is a positive bit right? Possibly? I need this distraction from this situation until my feet are wet, till im comfortably put back in my element which is water. 

Harry’s somewhere out there laughing, literally meaning some random girl just dropped some candy on his toe and here I’m coming in with 28 diffferent interpretations....

Aaaaaanyway stepping away from that wild stuff, back to Kiwi alone. Since there’s such a big theme of substance (ab)use, I didn’t even go over the more obvious “candy” definitely at the very least doubling as a synonym for drugs again (and with that “hard candy” being hard drugs).

It’s also a movie and a whole different meaning there I don’t wanna get into

Also I think it’s funny that he mentions a cactus and then wet feet because that’s what it’s called when you overwater your plants and killing them that way, the fast route to killing a cactus via rootrot.

And now she's all over me

I can't contain this anymore I'm all yours, I got no control, No controooohoohool, poooooooowerless and I don't care it's obvious, I just can't get enough of you I got noooo control I mean yes this is probably bullshit but it keeps checking out lol.

Casual’s listener interpretation I’m not even sure is worth mentioning, that a girl is literally on top of him.

And of course it just fits with that concept that she’s driving him insane, that she’s just all over his mind, that the situation is consuming him.

Another interpretation could be that her name is linked to his everywhere he goes (thinking about 1D times where interviewers kept bringing up girls he was associated with over and over again).

it's like I paid for it (cha-ching)

There are SO. MANY. INTERPRETATIONS. HERE. 

Paying for it = buying it. Like, are you buying it? 

Are you believing she's all over him? 

Or, are you believing all these stunts?

paying for it = that money theme again. CHA-CHING, cash, big moneys, it’s a business. 

Also “it’s like”, so kinda, so, not really again? she’d be all over me as if i paid for it, but I didn’t really?

Also a bit of a clever insinuation that we’re dealing with a prostitute here right? Just for the fun of it? Or another clever wordplay, because while prostitute means “to offer for sexual intercourse in exchange for pay”, it also means “to put oneself to an unworthy or corrupt use for personal or financial gain“, for the 28th time insinuating that this girl is doing classless shady shit. (I hope it’s clear I’m not saying sexwork is something negative, it’s definitely not)

It's like I paid for it, I'm gonna pay for this

The wordplays are coming out of my pores by now, so here he flips the words around, going from “as if I was paying for it” to “I’m going to be paying for this”. This could be “You thought I was already suffering the consequences for this no no that’s nothing, I’m still going to” Or it’s even literal and he means he’s going to have to be putting money into something. Or you know totally awkward random who nows.

I personally choose to interpret this line as I'm gonna have to face some kinda backlash with this song, people are gonna be talking about this in a way others are not gonna like, yep is gonna have some effect oopsie but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Sooooooo I think that concludes the lyric breakdown I didn’t totally spend more than a month on.

yeah that was a lot... and we’re not done.

Meaning of “Kiwi”

And then after all that this mfer had the AUDACITY to call it Kiwi. WTF is that? Why? How? When??? 

Possible meanings:

KIWI like an abbreviation, what was the joke again, Kendall I Wasn’t Interested? Lol.

Kiwi, the bird:

Bird is a word for “girl”, I don’t recall if he has addressed girls as birds before but Louis definitely does (it’s a common way to say girl in northern england if I’m not mistaken).

It’s also more specifically a bird from New Zealand, so there’s some interpretations that he’s talking about certain people that are from NZ, like Dan Wattpad, but I’m not that set on that idea.

A Kiwi’s a flightless bird and he has used (not) flying/being in the sky, being birds, and bird(cage) tats, so it could signify once again not being able to fly away and stuck in this mess ('but I'm into it')

If you’re a bird I’m a bird, have some birdy bird posts, thank you @ladychlo​​ and @ialwaysknewyouwerepunk​​ for feeding me with these kinda posts nomnom

Kiwi, the fruit.

His whole fruit aesthetics didn’t come in until the FL era (if you excuse the bananas), I don’t think he really meant to throw a fruit in there just because it’s a fruit, but who knows.

~still on the fruit, but now it’s time for a biology lesson:~

related to fertility (again), the inside of a kiwi resembles sperm trying to fertilize the female egg cell:

But wait! There’s more! Harry possibly being at it again and just meaning something dirty: Kiwi’s can be compared to balls (testis) too, I mean just the Kiwi on its own being a hairy ball yay for that, but it also looks like a cross-section of the (I’m trying hard here to use layman’s terms) tubes that produce the sperm. Here are links to a blog demonstrating that perfectly. For those who don’t get it, these are pics of kiwi slices with microscopic images of testis tube slices shopped into it:

My two favorite worlds combined. It’s even purple too so this can’t get any closer to my very specific personal vibe right here. What’s your vibe you say? Explaining purple sperm thanks to Harry Styles yep that’s it. What’s a song analysis without throwing in a biology lesson (Luckily we’re not breaking down anything Kurt Cobain or we’d be here forever).

But let’s move on, to the music video because nope nope this shit just goes on.

Music Video 

I can’t write this massive post and not go into the music video, because what the hell, a cakefight with children in suits and puppies while yelling someone having a baby is not someone else’s business? Yeah that’s Harry Styles for you.

This kind of “weirdness” makes me think of one of his favorite songs, Flowers in the Window, which has a very particular music video (with pregnant women no less) that just descends into an almost psychedelic weirdness (thanks @wishingicouldfly​​ for talking about this hah) and doesn’t seem to have much to do with the song itsself, or does it? 

Maybe first the buildup to the MV, the teasers on social media, in order:

28 kids if you don’t include Harry and his mini-me ok yep that’s fine.

mini-me of long hair era Harry got it? yeah got it. 

Harry be like STRONG asdkjahskdjh

Don’t laugh (please laugh) but this reminds me of this

It’s 90% just that girl wearing the same kinda Louis Bert shirt

(can you tell even I am going ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with this post please im pasting bert memes here)

Let’s also not neglect to mention the fact that his mini-me is a girl

This lil puzzle crazy mfer probably did some annoying[affectionate] shit with the amounts of times there was “KIWI” across all these and that will probably haunt me forever but

nuh-uh mfer not going there nonono.

Just one more thing before we get into the video:

x

harry be like mirror mirror on the wall who is the biggest bluegreener of them all

Anyway onto the video, unfortunately I’m not done with the wild larrying because the first 4 shots, can’t make this shit up, are this:

Mini-Harry in the bluegreen suit barging in through the nice blue door into the nice blue hallway, nice school you got there

nice blue cupcakes you got there

then the very next frame (0:12) we get the lil STRONG bluegreener boi with the turquoise cupcake

Cut to just his face and his blue shirt, he angry

Followed by another kiddo, in a green shirt this time, also angry

And then we just get to a whole bunch of images of cakes and kids, but yeah just saying those are the first images, juuuuuuuuuuuuuust pointing it out, nice coincidunkirks. It’s not like they’ve been aggressively bluegreening before and since nono.

So then mini Harry enters the room, they’re about to start the fight, it’s a buildup to it

for some reason this lil dude is highlighted a lot:

And this guy gets to say “what the fudge” hehe:

And then they fight, fightyfightyfighty, until mini-Harry runs out of ammo (cupcakes) (1:50):

Runs to the cake pile for more, then soldier manoeuvres (whatever that move is called) her way out of there like she’s evading bullets (managing to draw SOTT parallels because I like the pain)

but looks defeated, and that’s the moment now-Harry? Short hair harry? Big Harry? whatever actually Harry enters the room with a puppy.

2015 harry Mini-harry looks up to him like she’s saved pretty much.  

And then there’s just a bunch of chaos with children and cakes and puppies and at the end we get the smirk

Also the full image of all the kiddos at the end with the lil vertical stripe’o’bluegreener in the middle:

Interpretation, I guess. Although, it isn’t much, not compared to the lyric insanity above:

I’d like to think he just went fuck it I want a cakefight and puppies and so it shall be. Lighten the mood of what has fueled Kiwi into existence, turning it into something cute, innocent, sweet, etc.

But ok I’m calling this the big talk so I gotta go places with this, one clear theme is kids, human kids and puppies. They were only kids trying to work it out WHAT’S WRONG WITH ME STOP (do have a parallels post about this tho) with a very obvious younger version of him, the little long haired girl, made extra double triple clear by wearing the same suit as him, this is long-haired harry. Another clear theme is fighting, half of the MV is spent preparing for battle and then it descends into chaos. So this could be the most lighthearted analogy you’ll ever see of well.. his/their ongoing battle with *all the bullshit*.

Also we gotta go here right, gotta go here... can’t leave it out, bunch of kids in a gay club being themselves before all the shits goes to shit:

I can’t even watch this

tag of posts about this I still dont know how to link a tag in a way it works on mobile sorry if you’re on mobile

I also want to share this post about his live performance of Kiwi. I do think he pours out a certain type of energy that isn’t comparable to anything else, something that doesn’t happen with any other song. But I haven’t had the opportunity just yet to experience this myself, of course there are tons of videos, but I’m sure it’s different, so I’ll let that post tell it all. 

Anyway, last point, about him singing it live, is how he decided to end HSLOT on July 14, 2018 (July 14 you say, end on July 14? really? you wanna end the tour, end it, on july 14? okay. okay. no. that’s fine. yeah this is fine too. oh yeah just bzz again in 2020 why don’t you. It’s fiiiine), and end it on singing Kiwi 3x. His entire god damn tour he ends it on screaming the “I’m having your baby it’s none of your business” song three times in a row on the three year “anniversary” of the start of babygate?

And with that this analysis. Thank you for reading I hope it was a good one <3

Read my other song analyses here

#kiwi #kiwi analysis #i did it #it only took 57 years of my life #smart things with lyrics #welikeparallels #tw: drugs #tw: sex mention #i mean kinda #its not really safe #ehm #gayvinci code

[shelovessunflowers]

Masterpost de From The Dining Table x Brokeback Mountain (Secreto En La Montaña) parte 2

El siguiente post pertenece a @bluewinnerangel

Todos los créditos van dirigidos a ella.

El masterpost original puedes encontrarlo aquí.

!! De ahora en adelante enormes spoilers de Secreto En La Montaña !!

Desde que dije un poco de cosas sobre esto ayer y tuve algunas preguntas para explicarlo un poco más pensé en dedicarle un post.

Entoooonces esto se trata sobre From The Dining Table tal vez no sea tan autobiográfico, no en el sentido literal, aunque tendría que reflejarse al menos,  de lo contrario por qué hacer una canción entera sobre esto o no, pero podría ser desde la perspectiva de Jack en la película / la breve historia en Secreto En La Montaña y creo que también podría haber hecho lo mismo con TBSL y The Notebook. 

FTDT (así como Sweet Creature) suena como si estuviera saliendo directamente no gay (ademas de explicar lo de la banda sonora @bluewinnerangel hace una pequeña broma sobre salir del armario siendo hetero y no gay) de la banda sonora de Secreto En La Montaña, explicado aquí. Especialmente los tracks "The Wings" y "Brokeback Mountain 2" (esa melodía en la parte de "even my phone misses your call by the way" es sólo.. una copia). Y sip, esa es la gran pista alli, es por eso que estoy conectando estos puntos y no eliminando las coincidencias porque sabes que estas letras/lyrics no son TAN específicas, pero combínalo también con las similitudes en términos de sonido y bueno hmmmmm

Analisis de la letra/lyric de FTDT x Secreto En La Montaña:

En la película, ve a verla si no lo has hecho, ve a leer este breve relato si no lo has hecho, Jack y Ennis se enamoran en Secreto En La Montaña y uhm siguen sin saber cómo dejar el uno al otro. Ambos entienden que no es seguro intentar vivir una vida juntos, Ennis ni siquiera lo considera pero Jack todavía quiere, trata de hablar de ello, pero nunca sucede. La mayor parte de su vida están en silencio sobre sus sentimientos, simplemente se aman profundamente pero continúan viviendo sus vidas con sus esposas e hijos, aún así no pueden mantenerse alejados el uno del otro y durante 20 años continúan teniendo estos “viajes de pesca" juntos y encuentran maneras de verse. Ennis se mantiene muy en conflicto con sus sentimientos y no se hace dueño de ellos tanto como lo hace Jack. Es un hombre de muy pocas palabras (bajo el pretexto de un cómodo silencio) y eso vuelve loco a Jack. Beben mucho, se sienten solos y no están bien, no parecen llamarse, pero se extrañan como locos...

Algunos fragmentos de la breve historia: 

"¿Cuánto es de vez cuando?", dijo Jack. ¿"De vez en cuando por cuatro malditos años?

"No", dijo Ennis, absteniéndose a preguntar de quién fue la culpa. "Odio que te alejes en la mañana y yo vuelva a trabajar. Pero si no puedes solucionarlo tienes que soportarlo", el dijo. "Mierda. He estado mirando a la gente en la calle. Esto le sucede a otras personas? ¿Qué demonios hacen?"

O el diálogo de Jack cuando finalmente termina con.. todo:

"Te diré qué; podríamos haber tenido una buena vida juntos. Una maldita buena vida. Nos tenía un lugar propio! Pero no lo querías, Ennis. Así que lo que tenemos ahora esta en Brokeback Mountain! ¡Todo está construido sobre eso! Eso es todo lo que tenemos, hombre. malditamente todo. Así que espero que lo sepas, ¡si no sabes nunca el resto! Tu cuenta las malditas pocas veces ... que hemos estado juntos en casi 20 años... y mides la puta correa que me mantienes puesta... y luego me preguntas por México y me dices que me vas a matar... por necesitar algo que casi nunca consigo! ¡No tienes idea de lo mal que me siento! ¡Y yo no soy tú! No puedo hacerlo... en un par de cogidas de gran altitud una o dos veces al año! Eres demasiado para mí, Ennis. ¡Hijo de puta! ¡Ojalá supiera cómo dejarte!" 

Y la respuesta de Ennis:

Entonces, ¿por qué no? ¿Por qué no me dejas ser, eh? Es gracias a ti, Jack, que soy así. No soy nada. No estoy en ninguna parte.

Entonces en FTDT:

Woke up alone in this hotel room / Desperté solo en esta habitación de hotel 

Played with myself, where were you? / Me masturbe, donde estabas? 

Fell back to sleep, I got drunk by noon / Volvi a dormir, me emborrache al mediodia

I’ve never felt less cool / Nunca me he sentido menos cool

Loneliness, where are you, can’t make it on a couple of high-altitude fucks a few times a year, played with myself, but need you, I’m struggling, I’m drinkin, I’m nothing, I’m nowhere. ~it’s all of the above~ / La soledad, donde estas, no puedo hacerlo en un par de cogidas de gran altitud pocas veces al año, me masturbe, pero te necesito, estoy luchando, estoy bebiendo, no soy nada, No estoy en ninguna parte.  ~es todo lo anterior ~

Algunos fragmentos más de la breve historia:

"En un verano pastoreamos ovejas en Brokeback", dijo Ennis. Apenas podía hablar.

"Bueno, él dijo que era su lugar. Pensé que tenía la intención de emborracharse. Bebia whisky alli. Bebía mucho".

We haven’t spoke since you went away / No hemos hablado desde que te fuiste

Comfortable silence is so overrated / El silencio cómodo esta tan sobrevalorado

Why won’t you ever be the first one to break? / ¿Por qué no serás nunca el primero en terminar?

Even my phone misses your call, by the way / por cierto, incluso mi teléfono extraña tu llamada

Esto se ajusta a los sentimientos de Jack hacia Ennis.

Ennis no habla. Jack parece estar bien con este silencio la mayor parte del tiempo, pero realmente le encanta mucho más cuando Ennis habla. Esto después de que le dice a Jack algo personal, el rostro de Jack se ilumina y Ennis is like bropal what (significa que esta en modo amigo, bro etc) 

Jack: Hombre, esas son más palabras de las que has dicho en las últimas dos semanas. Ennis: Mierda, eso es lo más que he hablado en un año.

Y también como se mencionó anteriormente, Jack es el primero en terminar. Ennis parece sufrir también, pero nunca lo muestra, no delante de Jack antes de que Jack lo haga al menos.

I saw your friend that you know from work / vi a tu amigo que conoces del trabajo

He said you feel just fine / el dijo que solo te sientes bien

“He said you feel just fine” puede ser una forma de decir que simplemente lo olvide, y en la película Jack visita a su jefe que los había enviado a Brokeback Mountain (Aclaracion: ademas de ser el nombre de la película el lugar donde se situa la misma es en Brokeback Mountain) al año siguiente, y le pregunta por Ennis. A lo que tampoco obtiene una respuesta satisfactoria (gracias @swimmingleo):

Jefe: Bueno, mira lo que trajo el viento. Jack: Me preguntaba si necesita ayuda este verano. Jefe: Estás perdiendo tu tiempo aquí. Jack: ¿Qué, no tienes nada? Nada aquí en Brokeback? Jefe: No tengo trabajo para ti. Jack: Ennis Del Mar no ha estado por aquí, verdad? Jefe: Ustedes, muchachos, seguro que encontraron una manera de hacer que el tiempo pasara alla arriba. Ustedes no estaban siendo pagados para dejar de cuidar las ovejas... while you stemmed the rose (hace referencia al sexo anal, osea, en vez de ocuparse de su trabajo hacían otras cosas mas interesantes por así decirlo jajaja)  Ahora vete de mi tráiler. 

I see you gave him my old t-shirt / veo que le diste mi vieja camiseta

More of what was once mine / mas de lo que una vez fue mio 

Al final lo único que Ennis tiene de Jack es su vieja camisa. Y descubre todo este tiempo que Jack tenía la suya.

Copiando una gran parte de la breve historia de nuevo, en serio sólo tienes que ir a leer toda la historia en su lugar: 

En el fondo del armario algo se encuentra en la pared, oculto, rígido colgado de una percha(o gancho de ropa dependiendo de como le digan en su país), colgaba una camisa. La saca de la percha. La vieja camisa de Jack de los días de Brokeback. La sangre seca en la manga era su propia sangre, una hemorragia nasal provocada en la última tarde en la montaña cuando Jack, en un momento de lucha, había golpeado la nariz de Ennis con fuerza con su rodilla. Esto provoco que la sangre estuviera por todas partes, pero Ennis de alguna manera pudo detenerlo con la manga de su camisa. La camisa parecía pesada hasta que vio que había otra camisa dentro de ella, las mangas cuidadosamente puestas dentro de las mangas de Jack. Era su propia camisa a cuadros, perdida, había pensado, hace mucho tiempo en una maldita lavandería, su camisa sucia, el bolsillo rasgado, los botones perdidos, robados por Jack y escondidos aquí dentro de la propia camisa de Jack, las camisas como dos pieles, una dentro de la otra, dos en una. Presionó su cara en la tela y respiró lentamente a través de su boca y nariz, esperando el humo más tenue y la salvia de la montaña y el hedor dulce y salado de Jack, pero no había un olor real, solo el recuerdo de él, solo la imaginación de Brokeback Mountain del que no quedaba nada más que lo que tenía en sus manos. 

I see it’s written, it’s all over his face / veo que esta escrito, esta por toda su cara

Todo el mundo lo puede decir. Nadie dice nada. Pero saben que estos dos tenían ~ un vínculo especial ~. Especialmente los padres de Jack cuando Ennis visita su casa al final y encuentra esa camisa.

Maybe one day you’ll call me and tell me that you’re sorry too / tal vez un día me llames y me digas que también lo sientes

Maybe one day you’ll call me and tell me that you’re sorry too / tal vez un día me llames y me digas que también lo sientes

Maybe one day you’ll call me and tell me that you’re sorry too but you, you never do / tal vez un día me llames y me digas que también lo sientes pero tu, nunca lo haces

Tal vez un día [...] ... tal vez algún día... Tengo la esperanza de que tal vez algún día... pero al final. Me doy cuenta de que no va a suceder -> Jack sigue esperando que tal vez algún día vivan sus vidas juntos, pero Ennis nunca los deja ir allí, no lo ve como una opción, simplemente se queda en silencio. Pero al final Jack sabe dónde están parados, o siempre lo ha sabido, supongo, déjalo  ser... Lo último que leemos desde la perspectiva de Jack en la breve historia:

Más tarde, ese abrazo soñoliento se solidificó en su memoria como el único momento de felicidad sin arte y encanto en sus vidas separadas y difíciles. Nada lo empañó, incluso el conocimiento de que Ennis no lo abrazaría cara a cara porque no quería ver o sentir que era Jack el que sostenía. Y tal vez, pensó, nunca habían llegado mucho más lejos que eso. dejemos ser, dejemos ser.

Woke up the girl who looked just like you I almost said your name / Desperté a la chica que se parecía a ti casi dije tu nombre

Ambos están con una familia, con esposas / novias. No creo que haya una chica que se parezca a la otra, o una mención de casi decir los nombres del otro o cualquier cosa, podría haberlo extrañado me refiero al resto echa un vistazo aksdjaslk. El más cercano tal vez paralelo que podría pensar es una llamada entre Ennis y la esposa de Jack:

"Jack solía mencionarte", dijo. "Eres el compañero de pesca o el compañero de caza, lo sé. Te lo habría hecho saber", dijo, "pero no estaba segura de tu nombre y dirección. Jack mantuvo la mayoría de las direcciones de sus amigos en su cabeza.

Así que.... Sí....

OK UN EDIT PORQUE HICE ENOJAR A @larrysballetslippers porque esto no tenía un buen final así que:

TIEMPO DE DIVAGACIÓN

Todo eso

no significa que la historia de Secreto En La Montaña y todos sus detalles reflejen la vida de Harry. SI algo de esto fue incluso a proposito. Claramente le encanta y ha hecho referencias a otras películas también, como The Notebook y Papillon y esas tampoco son copias de su vida. Simplemente no significa que sea Jack en todos los sentidos y Louis sea exactamente Ennis y la parte donde Ennis está mostrando resistencia a su amor no debe significar que Louis está haciendo lo mismo o lo que sea.

Este post fue sólo para mostrar los paralelismos y puedes sacar cualquier conclusión que desees de esto, pero por favor, sólo ten en cuenta que Harry no está en control de todos los detalles en esta película LOL y SI esta canción realmente sólo es un fanpiece de Secreto En La Montaña no significa que él está metido exactamente en cómo se desarrolla esta película porque está viviendo la versión exacta de su vida real en todos los sentidos. (Me temo que vamos a tocar estos mismos pensamientos una vez que My Policeman se estrene, esooo va a ser divertido)

En todo caso, todo este se llego a  este análisis porque los detalles en esta canción, en mi opinión, no se ajustan a las descripciones de Harry y Louis de su amor y dinámica y lo que han pasado en la mayoría de sus otras canciones.

Este análisis fue larry-free (sin larry) y ahora mira lo que me hiciste hacer @larrysballetslippers .... bueno. Aunque tenía un gif de larry siendo vaqueros al principio asldkjaskldja AHHH BIEN

Parte 1 del masterpost traducido aquí.

Parte 1 del masterpost original aquí. 

#brokeback mountain #masterpost traducido #from the dining table #welikeparallels

[bluewinnerangel]

Hit us with those good good canyon moon home parallels. You know we know you got em.

Are you ready for this SIT DOWN YOU'RE NOT READY. Listen this lil shit. Which one? THIS ONE

just decided to sit down and just TAKE APART HOME, HUSSLE IT, and go yep that's it that's my new song alright why because my lil louis lil blue wrote this for me hihihi that's why Listen to how Home starts, the "make a little conversation", and then compare that to Canyon Moon, the "you gotta see it to believe it". There are a bunch of obvious parallels between these 2 (oh I dunno maybe mermaid just yelling Home home home I'm going home over and over for one), but because these lines really sound the same the same and I had noticed some of these lines are quite similar too ("make a little conversation" vs "quick pause in conversation") I got the idea to check and compare them all and uh... I think there's really some fun intent going on here.

All the lines in Home that are sung this way:

"make a little conversation"

"so long ive been waiting"

"so many nights I thought it over"

"told myself i kinda liked her"

"so hot that I couldn't take it"

"want to wake up and see your face"

"still high with a little feeling"

"see the smile as it starts to creep in"

And the same for Canyon Moon:

"you gotta see it to believe it"

"so hard to leave it“

"the world's happy waiting"

"I heard jenny saying"

"staring at the ceiling"

"carry the feeling"

"quick pause in conversation"

"an old lovers hippie music"

Hussle that and you get parallels:

"make a little conversation" -> "quick pause in conversation"

"so long ive been waiting" -> "the world's happy waiting"

"so many nights I thought it over" -> "staring at the ceiling"

"told myself I kinda liked her" -> "hear jenny saying" / "(she plays song I've never heard,) an old lovers hippie music" this is a bit of a brain twist I'll get back to it.

"so hot that I couldn't take it" -> "so hard to leave it“ (which is either the same or the opposite depending on how wanna look at Home's message)

"want to wake up and see your face" / "see the smile as it starts to creep in" (context in home is waking up in the morning looking into each others eyes) -> "you gotta see it to believe it" (context is "sky never looked so blue" so then lemme just bring in "I get so lost inside your eyes, would you believe it?" - Adore You. blue skies blue eyes same same)

"still high with a little feeling" -> "carry the feeling"

Look at that. LOOK. AT. THAT. Listen to it. (Playlist of all songs mentioned in this post here) Listen to how all these lines are sung exactly the same, and like that's not enough they're same words same contexts same same!?

Also wanna just bring in the brainfarts happening over at me trying to find peace not having these parallels haunt me constantly which I try to resolve by making these silly little highlighter central mad professor's insane scribbles on a whiteboard except I'm not a professor and it's Harry's insanity and this is made in powerpoint:

There's a whole B side to this post coming ~Joni Mitchell parallels~ after more home parallel rambles below the cut:

To me the "Told myself I kind of liked her" in Home is one of the most important lines. In either case, but especially in the case of it possibly being very literal. That Louis possibly tried to convince himself that he did like her, and so he had a period where he was truly considering not being with whom makes him feel alive le curly boy, I mean it's right there in the above lines, although I'd like to think he talked about women in general, and not about recent feelings but rather the whole part where you are a kid realising you're not straight and well the whole song the whole song is a gift to anyone who has been there. That either way this line to me encapsulates that fear of what if you decide we're not enough to the curly boy "you" in question.

Then with that we can go back to possible intentional parallels, as Harry not once but twice in different contexts in Canyon Moon writes he's currently not home (implied that the time under the canyon moon is home), and while he's thinking back to that time of being home, he hears a girl talking: "I heard jenny saying" (I'd also like to think that it perhaps was "I heard her saying' at first and then they wrote Kid's fam into it, not based anything really, just, possible.) and then again in the last verse "she plays songs I've never heard, an old lover's hippie music, pretends not to know the words" which I take as a huge crazy wordplay puzzle, because he's saying the "she" is doing something he doesn't know about (copy from here:) here I think he's using [not knowing the song she is playing] to describe something being off, not his jam, not his music, in the same waters as "but there was something missing in her eyes", he's just thinking back to a time under the Canyon Moon, just waiting to go home, so he describes being somewhere that's not home as songs being played he doesn't know. And I'm not done with that line yet as there's that sweet sweet keyword "pretend" drop, all these sneaky little "pretend" "lying" "trick" words just sprinkled into all kinda contexts everywhere, is he trying to tell us something?

But beyond that I think this hippie music verse is just fat thiccccc greasy juicy references to Joni Mitchel, so off we go to the second parallel:

Harry's driving me into the laurel canyon with this. It's absolutely not any new info that Harry loves Joni Mitchell and would take inspiration from music he loves but I just took a tumble and feel like I am still just barely scratching the surface here. In terms of sound I don't wanna say too much here because I am no expert, not anywhere near, so whatever I would say wouldn't do whatever he's got going on any justice, but Canyon Moon is very clearly a Joni Mitchell fanpiece. And yeah probably not just Joni Mitchell and Home, there's for sure other influences in there too, but she's there alright. You don't need trained ears for that. And then there's that bit where the song's called Canyon Moon. What canyon? I'd place my bets on the Laurel Canyon. Not because I wanna yell about laurels although I always wanna yell about laurels but because of its link with an old lover's hippie music from the Laurel Canyon and Ladies of the Canyon's Joni Mitchell.

Also mentioning the part where he's described being obsessed with Blue as being "in a big Joni hole" (meanwhile I'm in a Harry(&Louis) hole and just getting sucked into the holes they get sucked into someone send help), and of course that tweet which is a lyric form My Old Man from the album Blue:

Tracklist of Blue:

Canyon Moon most closely resembles Carey you know the song Carey there snuggled between Little Green and Blue because god forbid we leave the poor bluegreeners alone for a second.

When considering possible inspirations for FL it's the entire album here, and take Ladies of the Canyon down with it as well while we're at it, but still I wanna highlight Carey the most:

And I just want to point out that of this album he's so obsessed with, Blue, is in itself doing this whole trick with colors (blue, green, black, silver and white), with the color blue (mostly used to describe loneliness) mentioned in all songs on side 1 with the only exception being Carey. Fun fact, I guess. Skies never looked so blue, doors yellow broken blue, all that. As for other parallels with this album and Fine Line, there's loads, perhaps California being second closest to Canyon Moon, and also this recurrent mention of café's (and the way it's mentioned [like in relation to a relationship going (not) well and (not) meeting there kinda thing] just makes me think of the beachwood café line). Then in terms of sound I'd say Canyon Moon comes close to Carey (yep again) and Big Yellow Taxi, which Harry covered of course.

And last last I also just wanna point out the part where that 2013 tweet already showed Harry's been obsessed with this Blue album for years and years, so there might be inspired sprinkles extending places I haven't noticed whatsoever and this is just a tiny fraction of whatever's been coming out of the Joni hole for years, who knows maybe Home was already Joni Mitchell inspired.

Byebye I'm off having a breakdown over listening to Blue and Conversation in the context of Harry listening to them thank you very much.

A playlist for all the songs mentioned in this post, but please do get as obsessed with this album as Harry has and just listen to the whole thing top to bottom, anyway:

End on a link to all my song analyses here, and LISTEN to the Canyon Moon / Home parallels here.

#canyon moon #home #joni mitchell #finally got that damn parallel out there only to just go off for 71 years straight about the joni mitchell laurel canyon shit #smart things with lyrics #welikeparallels #FL

[bluewinnerangel]

Canyon Moon = Joni Mitchell's Carey

This kinda became a bigger than anticipated Harry's Fine Line x Joni Mitchell collection, but with emphasis on Canyon Moon x Carey. A lot of bits have been posted before as part of a bigger Canyon Moon analysis but I just wanted to extract the Carey bit because it's been a while and I still just love it so so so much. I'm also gonna go as far as my brain will let me to attack you with as many parallels with her music as possible (it's a lot)

Canyon Moon lyric breakdown x Joni Mitchell (mainly Carey), how Harry has talked about it, and more parallels under the cut:

Someone else can pay close attention and come back to tell me how beautiful this all is and how the sentiments all nicely align and stuff, I'm just gonna go what I do best and dumbdumb point at similar keywords instead and you can see the beauty in the words as we go without my describing it because I do not know how have fun:

You gotta see it to believe it Sky never looked so blue

Okay keep cloudless skies in mind, I'll go over it later

We're not starting off strong here, because this is generic af to mention blue skies or even just a color, but if he's really channeling Joni Mitchell's Blue and her being the lady of the Canyon in here, which I think he is, the mention of Blue not just here but in 2 contexts with the "doors yellow broken blue" later on in the song is a nice little nudge right? Blue is full of blue (girl you're going in circles). Most of her songs mention blue, often to describe feeling low.

With these parallels I'm keeping in a lot of surrounding text just because I love it all too much. "blue" (word) lines in Blue (the album):

Then we both get so blue (followed by: I am on a lonely road and I am traveling) - All I Want

We don't need no piece of paper from the city hall keeping us tied and true. My old man keeping away my blues. He's my sunshine in the morning, he's my fireworks at the end of the day - My Old Man

He went to California hearing that everything's warmer there so you write him a letter and say, "Her eyes are blue" He sends you a poem and she's lost to you. Little green - Little Green

[interestingly no Blue in Carey]

Just the entirety of the song Blue but: Blue, songs are like tattoos, You know I've been to sea before, Crown and anchor me or let me sail away // Blue, I love you - Blue

And the streets are full of strangers, All the news of home you read just give you the blues - California.

And that's just side 1 of Blue.

So hard to leave it That's what I always do

Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here, Carey But it's really not my home - Carey

So I keep thinking back to A time under the canyon moon

(+You gotta see it to believe it, sky never looked so blue)

Rows and floes of angel hair And ice cream castles in the air And feather canyons everywhere I've looked at clouds that way But now they only block the sun They rain and snow on everyone So many things I would have done But clouds got in my way I've looked at clouds from both sides now From up and down, and still somehow It's cloud illusions I recall I really don't know clouds at all Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels The dizzy dancing way you feel As every fairy tale comes real I've looked at love that way - Both Sides Now

Colors up the sunshine hours Pouring music down the canyon Coloring the sunshine hours They are the ladies of the canyon - Ladies of the Canyon

But there's also just Carey again, as if Canyon Moon is thinking back to the time described in Carey:

The night is a starry dome. And they're playin' that scratchy rock and roll Beneath the Matala Moon - Carey

The world's happy waiting Doors yellow, broken, blue

Okay I'm gonna go a bit cray here, but a parallel is a parallel... so on the album Ladies Of The Canyon you got Blue Boy, that ends in standing in a door, followed by Big Yellow Taxi, with a yellow door:

Lady called the blue boy, love, she took him home // He will come a few times more till he finds a lady statue standing in a door in her door, oh - Blue Boy (I kinda just removed all the context of the song here and I hate it but this post is a book pretty much with all the lyrics my god)

Late last night I heard the screen door slam And a big yellow taxi took away my old man - Big Yellow taxi

I heard Jenny saying "Go get the kids from school"

(there really isn't a parallel here but I'm doing it anyway)

Just a little green like the color when the spring is born There'll be crocuses to bring to school tomorrow - Little Green

I'll be gone too long from you

Maybe it's been too long a time - Carey

Staring at the ceiling Two weeks and I'll be home

Last night I couldn't sleep (Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here Carey but it's really not my home) - Carey

Carry the feeling

or is it Carey the feeling hmMMMm yeah

yeah

yuh

im good

Through Paris, all through Rome

Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam or maybe I'll go to Rome - Carey

And I miss my clean white linen and my fancy French cologne - Carey

Sitting in a park in Paris, France // But I wouldn't wanna stay here // Oh, but California, California I'm coming home - California

(I'll copypaste a bunch of Paris lyrics later on)

I'm going, oh, I'm going I'm going, oh, I'm going I'm going, oh, I'm going home

Oh, but California, California I'm coming home - California

Quick pause in conversation She plays songs I've never heard An old lover's hippie music Pretends not to know the words

And rent me a grand piano and put some flowers 'round my room But let's not talk about fare-thee-wells now The night is a starry dome. And they're playin' that scratchy rock and roll Beneath the Matala Moon - Carey

Colors up the sunshine hours Pouring music down the canyon Coloring the sunshine hours They are the ladies of the canyon - Ladies of the Canyon

This really reminds me of this live version of Carey:

But besides her quick pauses in conversations, playing her old lover's hippie music pretending not to know the words lol, I just think this is a nod to maybe the people he's met on his journey chasing his inspirations and maybe even more specifically that dulcimer (mentioned in the Rolling Stone bit below) and you know.. all that. If you read the rbit below, it looks like he also brought up Stevie Nicks in regards to this song, and I can't help relate this bit to her as well.

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I'm done making links of which half are probably just not it and are effectively drowning out the bits that very much are it, sucks to be them, anyway, now we're going to the part where he just told us Canyon Moon is Carey's baby. You can hear it, you can see it, but he also pretty much said it. He’s described being obsessed with Blue as being “in a big Joni hole”, and talked about it specifically relating to Canyon Moon. Or at least, it's implied in this Rolling Stone interview as its under that heading there(pasting paste all the mentions here but it's a bit repetitive):

I do think he called Canyon Moon "Crosby, Stills, and Nash on steroids" because of its sound and not necessarily because of the following, but I find it very very interesting how Carey is the only song on Blue with Stills credits:

hmmHMMMmmmm

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Some more Joni related rambling:

His Joni hole seems to date all the way back to at least 2013, with the famous tweet:

Also the way the song’s called Canyon Moon. Even without her mentions of Canyons and Moons in her lyrics I’d of course place my bets on that referring to the Laurel Canyon because of its link with an old lover’s hippie music from the Laurel Canyon and Ladies of the Canyon’s Joni Mitchell.

And man don't you just love the tracklist of Blue, Carey there between My Old Man + Little Green and Blue all fine ALL FINE:

And I just want to point out that Blue is in itself doing this whole trick with colors (blue, green, black, silver and white, and perhaps more notably the lack of others), with the color blue (mostly used to describe loneliness) mentioned in all songs on side 1 with the only exception being Carey.

As for other parallels with this album and Fine Line, there’s loads, perhaps California being second closest to Canyon Moon besides Carey, and also this recurrent mention of café’s (and the way it’s mentioned [in relation to a relationship going (not) well and (not) meeting there kinda thing] just makes me think of the beachwood café line). Then in terms of sound I’d say Canyon Moon comes close to Carey (yep again) and Big Yellow Taxi, which Harry covered:

If you're not sick of the parallels and being all over the place yet (man you got some spare braincells there if you're not) let's just drag in all of fine line:

1. Fine Line x Both Sides Now is a big one.

2. You're something to hang up in a gallery or something:

Tired eyes are the death of me, Mouth full of toothpaste, Before I got to know you, I've got your face, Hung up high in the gallery, Out of this shade - Sunflower vol 6

vs (sorry I'm having a hard time not including any of these lyrics I know it's a lot a lot:)

When I first saw your gallery I liked the ones of ladies. Then you began to hang up me, You studied to portray me, In ice and greens and old blue jeans and naked in the roses, then you got into funny scenes that all your work discloses // "Lady, don't love me now I am dead I am a saint, turn down your bed I have no heart," that's what you said You said, "I can be cruel but let me be gentle with you" // I gave you all my pretty years then we began to weather and I was left to winter here while you went west for pleasure // When I first saw your gallery I liked the ones of ladies but now their faces follow me and all their eyes look shady - The Gallery

3. Golden but we're also caught in a devils bargain requiring an antidote and also we gotta get back to the sunlit garden bro:

Golden, golden, golden, As I open my eyes, Hold it, focus, hoping, Take me back to the light // I can feel it take a hold, I can feel you take control, Of who I am and all I've ever known, Loving you's the antidote - Golden

vs

We are stardust, Billion year old carbon, We are golden, Caught in the devil's bargain and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden - Woodstock

4. Cafe's used as a physical place to describe how a relationship is (no longer) going well:

And I'm well aware I write too many songs about you, And the coffee's out, At the Beachwood Cafe, And it kills me 'cause I know we've run out of things we can say - Falling

vs

He brings me songs to play. He sees me when he pleases I see him in cafes and I only say hello and turn away before his lady knows how much I want to see him, She removes him like a ring to wash her hands, She only brings him out to show her friends, I want to free him - Conversation

Come on down to the Mermaid Café and I will buy you a bottle of wine // Oh Carey, get out your cane I'll put on my finest silver, We'll go to the Mermaid Café Have fun tonight I said, oh, you're a mean old Daddy, but you're out of sight - Carey

And I said, "Constantly in the darkness Where's that at? If you want me I'll be in the bar" - A Case Of You

I don't want nobody comin' over to my table, I got nothing to talk to anybody about, All good dreamers pass this way some day, Hidin' behind bottles in dark cafés, dark cafés, Only a dark cocoon before I get my gorgeous wings and fly away, Only a phase, these dark café days - the Last time I Saw Richard

/ being free:

I deal in dreamers and telephone screamers Lately I wonder what I do it for If I had my way I'd just walk through those doors And wander down the Champs-Élysées Going café to cabaret Thinking how I'll feel when I find That very good friend of mine I was a free man in Paris I felt unfettered and alive Nobody was calling me up for favors No one's future to decide You know I'd go back there tomorrow But for the work I've taken on Stoking the star-maker machinery Behind the popular song - Free Man In Paris

Downtown The dance halls and cafes Feel so wild you could break somebody's heart Just doing the latest dance craze Gail and Louise In those push up brassieres Tight dresses and rhinestone rings Drinking up the band's beers Young love was kissing under bridges Kissing in cars Kissing in cafes - In France They Kiss On Main Street

5. Just songs that scream Harry?

Blue? the song? in its entirety? I absolutely see him drowning himself in this treasure:

Blue

Blue Songs are like tattoos You know I've been to sea before Crown and anchor me Or let me sail away

Hey, blue There is a song for you Ink on a pin Underneath the skin An empty space to fill in

Well, there's so many sinking now You gotta keep thinking You can make it through these waves Acid, booze, and ass Needles, guns, and grass Lots of laughs

Lots of laughs

Everybody's saying that Hell's the hippest way to go Well, I don't think so But I'm gonna take a look around it, though Blue, I love you

Blue, there is a shell for you Inside you'll hear a sigh A foggy lullaby Thеre is your song from me

And CONVERSATION? Don't imagine these songs comforting Harry man I'm crying in a corner. And again, this song has loads of parallels to Canyon Moon. I think, besides Carey, this one's has got to be a huge inspiration as well.

Conversation (from Ladies of the Canyon)

He comes for conversation I comfort him sometimes Comfort and consultation He knows that's what he'll find

I bring him apples and cheeses He brings me songs to play He sees me when he pleases I see him in cafes

And I only say, "Hello" And turn away before his lady knows How much I wanna see him She removes him like a ring To wash her hands She only brings him out to show her friends I wanna free him

Secrets and sharing soda That's how our time began Love is a story, told to a friend It's second hand

But I'll listen to his questions I'll give my answers when they'rе found He says she keeps him guessing But I know shе keeps him down

She speaks in sorry sentences Miraculous repentances I don't believe her Tomorrow he will come to me And he'll speak his sorrows endlessly And he'll ask me why Why can't I leave her?

He comes for conversation I comfort him sometimes Comfort and consultation He knows that's what he'll find He knows that's what he'll find

I'm almost done but, CALIFORNIA? Another one man, really:

California

Sitting in a park in Paris, France Reading the news and it sure looks bad They won't give peace a chance That was just a dream some of us had Still a lot of lands to see But I wouldn't wanna stay here It's too old and cold and settled in its ways here

Oh, but California California, I'm coming home I'm gonna see the folks I dig I'll even kiss a sunset pig California, I'm coming home

I met a redneck on a Grecian isle Who did the goat dance very well He gave me back my smile But he kept my camera to sell Oh, the rogue, the red, red rogue He cooked good omelets and stews And I might have stayed on with him there

But my heart cried out for you, California Oh, California, I'm coming home Oh, make me feel good rock 'n roll band I'm your biggest fan California, I'm coming home

Oh, it gets so lonely When you're walking And the streets are full of strangers All the news of home you read Just give you the blues Just give you the blues

So I bought me a ticket I got on a plane to Spain Went to a party down a red dirt road There were lots of pretty people there Reading Rolling Stone, reading Vogue They said, "How long can you hang around?" I said a week, maybe two Just until my skin turns brown

Then I'm going home to California California, I'm coming home Oh, will you take me as I am? Strung out on another man California, I'm coming home

Oh, it gets so lonely When you're walking And the streets are full of strangers All the news of home you read More about the war And the bloody changes

Oh, will you take me as I am? Will you take me as I am? Will you? Will you take me as I am? Mmm, mmm Take me as I am, mmm

So yeah, Joni Mitchell, man. Good stuff.

#joni mitchell #canyon moon #smart things with lyrics #golden #fine line #welikeparallels #ive kinda given up on tagging stuff ill just rb it on larrylyrics one daybye #Also thanks for the asks yesterday you made me do this haha i couldnt stop #so i let it happen

[bluewinnerangel]

@swimmingleo pointed this out. Cool. coolcoolcool.

#nice inspiration you got going on there louis #im just gonna put this in a seperate post because my wild larry yelling in that post was a lot to handle aklsdjlsakjd #welikeparallels #pink floyd #wish you were here

[bluewinnerangel]

Hiii. Do you have a timeline or an analysis for Half the world away?

(x)

Oh boi. OH. BOI OH BOI DO I. I do have quite a "I have connected the dots! you havent connected shit" for Half The World Away! Of course I do.

First, as for a timeline, the song leaked august 25 2020, and according to *the internet* (I believe the YT account that leaked it) it was recorded in 2013 as a demo for Take Me Home, which is a little weird considering Take Me Home was released late 2012. So either it was written and recorded in 2012 instead, or it wasn't for Take Me Home but maybe for Midnight Memories? I'm mostly interested in it being pre- or post-haylor really as I feel like this song and Two Ghosts are about the same deal, and as Two Ghosts has some haylor nudges, surely it making the most sense of it being written during/about that time.

Of all my song-linking parallel-finding messes this one was one of the firsts where I went full

so I'm happy to share that, it's got some tattoos and dancing and narratives and sadness. So this is gonna be "fun":

To barge right in, right before the cut: this song is one big ol parallel to Nickelback's Far Away. And uh...

Yeeehhp. Let's get into it:

Louis got "Far Away" tattoo'ed on him in october 2012. He hasn't said it's the name of a song, I think he implied a couple of times that it's about being far away from home, he has (allegedly, I mean, in writing, so who knows really) said that the tattoo signifies: Though I’m away from home, my family is always in my heart. (ALWAYS IN MY HEART!?) (I have no clue where that comes from but it's in a couple of grain of salt trying to get clicks articles like this one)

But then in 2015 Chad Kroeger of Nickelback 'gave away' that he has it tattooed because because it was "his and his girls song" (here) Now if you go on to read the tags of that post it's divided in 2 clear fronts: either pure hysterical laughter that that tattoo can't possibly be a nickelback lyric nor about "his and his girl" and it's clearly just about missing home OR "elounor tattoo proof". Meanwhile I'm here all by myself cheering in a lonely corner for this song actually being Harry & Louis' song at the time.

It's a really fking sappy sad love song fighting for a love that is incredibly strong but struggling, really right up their alley:

This time, this place Misused, mistakes Too long, too late Who was I to make you wait? Just one chance, just one breath Just in case there's just one left 'Cause you know, you know, you know That I love you I have loved you all along And I miss you Been far away, for far too long I keep dreaming you'll be with me And you'll never go Stop breathing if I don't see you anymore On my knees, I'll ask Last chance for one last dance 'Cause with you; I'd withstand All of hell to hold your hand I'd give it all; I'd give for us Give anything, but I won't give up But you know, you know, you know I wanted, I'd wanted you to stay 'Cause I needed I need to hear you say That I love you (That I love you) I have loved you all along And I forgive you (And I forgive you) For being away, for far too long So keep breathing 'Cause I'm not leaving you anymore Believe it Hold on to me and never let me go

And I don't know if that is setting off any alarmbells for you but it is for me. Half The World Away just seems like a fanpiece of this, really let's go over the parallels, I highlight them below but some of the stupid clear ones:

Far Away / Half The World Away (THE TITLE? REALLY!?)

This time, this place / 'cause there's a time, there's a place

Mistakes / I messed up

Stop breathing if I don't see you anymore / I'm scared I'll stop breathing

On my knees / ... on my knees.

I need to hear you say: I Love You / and now you rest everything on these three words

And yeah all these things are just common words common themes for songs but it's a bit much innit?

Side-track: There's also this interview moment with some serious couples bickering going on (starts at 0:40) that I'd say is already absolute gold on it's own, but it's interesting in this context. They're asked about their first concert, and Harry says Nickelback. (Harry the one without a nickelback tattoo likes nickelback, at least at the time, noted) Then Louis makes fun of Harry's mention of them here right? (Louis the one with the nickelback tattoo making fun of someone else liking nickelback ok noted) He just comes in again with that fetus Louis idk what to do with my affection so I'm just gonna resort to bullying for no reason again kinda toddler behavior, then when the bickering is done does this thing where he looks up and licks his lips/hides a smile, something we've seen before, oh I don't know, that time Harry talked about his awards being at his moms place and Louis knowing they're actually at his family's home. It's the I know more face, it is, fight me on it. I mean maybe it was in response to Cascada, or just the bickering on its own, or it was because the mention of Nickelback as it's something special to them as he does when they're on the topic of something harry has that is related to him like the times he kept aggressively hammering on harry's Hi tattoo or "what else harry? What else harry? WHAT ELSE HARRY?!" you know, that behavior.

Anyway back to Half The World Away, I think this song is a combination of Harry's true feelings at the time and coating it in some One-Direction-Approved-Narrative. In terms of sadness this is pre-Two Ghosts: Half The World away: "we're starting to lose who we are", Two Ghosts: "we're not who we used to be, we're two ghosts swimming in a glass half empty", and the worst: Ever Since New York: "there's no water in this swimming pool" (ESNY explained here)

I think I should attempt to break down the lyrics, although in this song, egh, I think there's quite some filler, some storytelling narrative, of all his songs I personally find this one... not... that... impressive? Is it OK to say that? I'm sorry? But I'm gonna do my best to properly look at it anyway:

If you’re a good friend You’d always be there when I need it

Harry screaming don't cut me off. The Too Young analysis is too fresh this is hurting me with Too Young's "so I cut you off 'cause I didn't know no better" and it fits way too well with this song, and also the "you" in Half the World Away (starts with an L ends with ouis William Tomlinson) is referred to as a friend although the whole song is making clear they're... not friends (Alexa play Ed Sheeran - Friends)

'Cause I’m on my knees and babe I’m bleeding And it kills me that you’re not around

Far Away parallel but 10x sadder, self-deprecating harry is already fully active here in 2013

So you’re not my girlfriend

This is some good double-meaning shit. Sad we can't be together openly because you're not a girl sadness while also dropping a "girl" too, that's some classic One Direction lyrics right there.

Don’t pretend that makes us nothing

DON'T CUT ME OFF

Tell me you don’t miss this feeling I’m starting to see who you are

growing bitter because his not-girlfriend is being cold towards him.

'Cause there's a time, There's a place

high fiving Far Away again

and I'm always gonna hear your name

yeah that's cause you're in a band together

There's a right, there's a wrong And now I see it all along, I messed up, you'll be fine

Sorry but just some easy songwriting using antithesis, rights and wrongs, messing up and being fine? But also the right vs wrong is used a lot in 1D/solo career songs and for sure some of the times, possibly all of the times it's in the context of , the "but this 'wrong' love feels right?", the "Why is our love 'wrong'?" kinda thing ("is it so wrong that you make me strong"), I mean maybe.

I'm gonna sleep alone tonight

They really really don't like sleeping alone that's clear time and time again.

Never gonna be the same 'Cause you're half the world away

Things have changed, he can't touch what he sees, Two Ghosts, all that.

The story you’d heard

Ok so throughout the song he's creating this whole story right, I did something and you found out, now I'm trying to make things right and I'm scared we can't come back from this thing I did, which could be that, maybe he literally did mess up something and as a result he's getting cold-shouldered, sure, but it's so smackbanginyourface I feel like it's just for the sake of the concept of the song, makes sense?

As I said before, whenever songwriters plomp down words like "story" in their songs I take it as a hint that it's just that, a story. A narrative, fictional. Especially with One Direction's sneaky lil shits where all this band does is lie, and has the balls to release "Story Of My Life", here with "the story you'd heard" I'm just going HMMMMM once again.

It can just as well be taken literal tho. Bringing this 2013 interview in because it describes a partner hearing a story better than I can, it's literally Harry giving an answer in an interview that fits the story of Half The World Away:

GQ: Do these rumours feel at all intrusive? Harry: Some of them are funny. Some of them are ridiculous. Some of them are annoying. I don't want to be one of those people that complains about the rumours. I never like it when a celebrity goes on Twitter and says, "This isn't true!" It is what it is, I tend not to do that. The only time it gets really annoying is that if you get into a relationship and you get into a place where you really like someone and then things are being written in the papers that affect them and how they see you. Then it can get annoying. (x)

And uh for context, he says this right after being asked if uh "gryles is real" basically, which he denies, as well as confirming he's not bisexual, this interview is wild.

Now you rest everything on these three words

I need to hear you say these 3 words, I need to hear you say I Love You, nice little Far Away parallel again

Now I’ll walk to you till my feet hurt, So tell me that’s not good enough

Coming back to this one after going over the lyrics.

And I started drinking I don’t know half of what I'm thinking

alcohol to cope, reoccuring theme, don't like this at all, moving on

And deep in I’m scared I’ll stop breathing

Again Far Away parallel, but scared. They're in deep. I dont know what to say about this but my heart is hurting

We’ve started to lose who we are

All I'm thinking here is "To Be Continued In Two Ghosts"

I want you around-round-round Are we going down-down-down? I want you around-round-round Are we going down-down-down I want you around-round round Are we going down-down-down? Are we going down? (down, down)

It's just pure sadness, not wanting to let go but seeing they're on a downward spiral.

~more side-tracks~

Back to the "Now I’ll walk to you till my feet hurt" line. I'm just gonna go for a stupid reach, why not. I'm clinging onto Louis' Far Away tattoo already, and now I'm dragging Harry's Never Gonna Dance Again into it. This tattoo is a line from George Michael's Careless Whisper:

and put this on his feet as the song goes "never gonna dance again, guilty feet have got no rhythm", and here in Half The World Away we got hurty guilty feet walking. Which... could be a Careless Whisper nudge? Half The World Away's storyline kinda matches Careless Whisper's pretty well too. Maybe maybe not? Am I thinking too highly of him again? Is it just a "'cause you know I'd walk a 1000 miles if I could just see you tonight" MAKING MY WAY DOWNTOWN TUTUTHTUTUTUT little feetwalking thing because the person is far away and that's all?

~Wow look at that it's another sidetrack and it's not even about Half The World Away anymore~

Sidetrack no 369: there's also this dances and chances thing going on in all these songs floating around Half The World Away. I already mention this in the Perfect Now analysis, so if this looks familiar that's why, and I realise it’s an easy thing to rhyme, so don’t take me too seriously on this but:

Harry’s tat Never gonna dance again:

I'm never gonna dance again Guilty feet have got no rhythm Though it's easy to pretend I know you're not a fool I should have known better than to cheat a friend And waste a chance that I'd been given So I'm never gonna dance again The way I danced with you

Louis’ tat Far Away:

One last chance for one last dance

Later on Louis got a tattoo Given a chance along with the dagger, a line from Kings Of Leon’s Be Somebody:

Given a chance, I’m gonna be somebody If for one dance, I’m gonna be somebody

Then there's Perfect Now:

And you don't wanna dance, I know you love to dance, You never stop given half the worldaway chance

But then, in TPWK, we’re starting to dance again

Giving second chances I don’t need all the answers Feeling good in my skin I just keep on dancin’

Now don't get me wrong, dancing/chances is really really really damn common in music, just listen to 3 random songs and you'll probably get some of it (Literally right now I'm hearing music playing and it's going "dance fucker dance man he never had a chance" while I'm typing this), but, it's a little excessive right? Not saying this all is definitely related, how would I know, just pointing it out. It just seems that they're drawn to this theme of having a chance to dance. Further enforced by ofcourse the (not) dancing in the Walls and TPWK music videos. They just really really fancy a chance to go ballroom dancing.

Also these tweets just turned 10 today cry with me:

And while on the topic of tweets:

In conclusion, 2013 was sad, haylor was bad, Harry doesn't wanna be Half The World Away from Louis, and they just wanna dance.

Oof that went places

For more lyric analyses: Too Young - Perfect Now (short) (full breakdown) - Sunflower vol 6 - Louis’ 28 songs playlist parallels Fine Line - Ever Since New York - Harry’s top 10 songs - Love You Goodbye - Right Now

#i hope that was what you were looking for anon #the dancing spiral im sure came out of nowhere lol #cry with me they just wanna dance #dances and chances #welikeparallels #smart things with lyrics #half the world away #two ghosts

[bluewinnerangel]

can u do a steal my girl analysis? and do you think that it's about harry?

I was just going through neglected asks and drafts thinking "I really should do something about all these halfassed songs analyses" then refreshed the asks and you're here going "yep you should" basically thanks for that. And now I'm still neglecting all of it by answering you first don't tell the other anons.

Euh Steal My Girl makes a lil too much sense being from Louis' perspective (and about Harry if that needs to be said lol) doesn't it? I mean this girl is clearly famous right, the whole world is watching her and wants her, and that alone is a pretty big giveaway already. But I'm also thinking of other lyrics that would come later on, like Perfect Now's "everybody's looking at you now" plus calling his partner (not.about.his.sisters.nah.no.nope.nein.) queen plus mentioning those jeans again all in one song (parallels coming out of our ears with Perfect Now, I didn't even include Steal My Girl in that analysis, what an oversight lol), or his' "SHE'S MINE"'ing, the way they seem to keep trying to claim each other as publicly as they can while Harry's supposedly single making people think ~he's available~, it all just fits. But that said it's a pretty generic song (most of 1D's songs are, them bop hit boyband generic poppy shit), but there are some slightly more specific things to grasp onto in there, in just the lyrics, and in some links that can be made.

Steal My Girl analysis under the cut:

So a whole lotta 1D songs are big ol fanpieces of classics right (something I think all of the boys have taken to heart and continued to use in their solo careers, something that loads of artists do, ~music inspiring music~ I'm not saying anything new here) this one's interpolating Journey's Faithfully. And not to go all deep on a boybands music but with Rock Me interpolating Queen's We Will Rock You not only sonically but lyrically as well don't mind me having a little peak at Faithfully's lyrics in hopes to grasp onto a lil bit more, see if there's some inspiration going on there too. And, maybe? Both songs are about I'm yours and you are mine, which wow what an interesting uncommon theme but it's not not the same? Let's just put them next to each other, highlighted a lil bit but you can see the themes are just of "you're the one" plus "sometimes we're seperated" plus "I'm nothing without you" plus Journey's "I'm traveling the whole wide world as I'm being a famous musician" plus Steal My Girl's "everybody in the world wants you because you are famous" lol, just have a read to see if you're seeing something more I guess:

I'm eyeing the "Loving a music man ain't always what it's supposed to be". I don't have much of a point here, not really trying to go anywhere with this, just pointing out the fact that this song interpolates this other song. And that there's logic to the possibility of Faithfully's lyrics being applicable to whatever's behind Steal My Girl to a certain degree. Anyway.

Steal My Girl lyric breakdown:

She be my queen Since we were sixteen We want the same things We dream the same dreams Alright, alright

aka we've been together since we were 16(&18) I wanna love like you made me feel when we were 18(&16) it's the same difference. Of course it's just something that makes the song work I think and "sixteen" just sounds good here (like how many ages work here? 16, 18, 19, that's about it). Either way the concept here is we've been together for a long time and we want to achieve the same things (be famous, perform, sing, maybe huh?), alright alright

Parallels:

'Cause everybody's looking at you now, My, oh, my, I guess some queens don't need a crown - Perfect Now, you mean that queen you've been with since she was 16 everybody's looking at and wanting to steal from you ok

Harry being sixteen when he auditioned (to chase the same dreams huh) (as was when they met)

I got it all 'Cause she is the one Her mum calls me love Her dad calls me son Alright, alright

She's the one ok clear, hisher family is my family ok clear, alright alright.

I know, I know, I know for sure

wbk

Everybody wanna steal my girl Everybody wanna take her heart away Couple billion in the whole wide world Find another one 'cause she belongs to me

She's famous af

Parallels:

'Cause everybody's looking at you now, My, oh, my, I guess some queens don't need a crown, And I know why - Perfect Now (yep just plugging the same line again)

.... I JUST REALISED THERE'S NOT ONLY A "QUEEN" AND A "JEANS" AND A "EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT YOU" BUT THERE'S ALSO A "STEAL" IN PERFECT NOW GOD just fuck off Louis wtf asdasdfdkja this isn't clear imma make something ugly hol up:

Yeah fun[she says aggressively] this is in these perfect "coincidence or not" waters again decide for yourselves I guess.

Kisses like cream Her walk is so mean And every jaw drops When she's in those jeans Alright, alright

Kisses like cream can be some stupid innuendo, I know Liam sings kisses that cream live at some point, jaw dropping when Harry's in those jeans is very true although (and now imma take things literal as a joke people) I wanna argue that bambi walk isn't very mean except to his own butt when he loses his balance and falls once again wobblewobble.

Parallels:

Little black dress, Just walked into the room, Makin' heads turn, Can't stop looking at you, It's alright, It's alright, It's alright, you know - Little Black Dress

Maybe a bit of an indicator of Louis lyrics like sons really paying attention to how harrypeople walk around in clothes lol (Oh, why you wearing that to walk out of my life? - Love You Goodbye, I wanna see the way you move for me baby - Little Black Dress)

"jeans" mention in Little Things, Midnight Memories, Perfect Now

You're turning heads when you walk through the door - WMYB

I don't exist If I don't have her The sun doesn't shine The world doesn't turn Alright, alright

Ok make it dramatic

She knows, she knows That I never let her down before She knows, she knows That I'm never gonna let another take her love from me now

Also if this is about Harry it's interesting he's the one singing the bridge. If he's the "she" it's fitting that he's singing about what she knows. I mean if Louis wrote these lyrics, and they're about Harry, and Harry being in the same band and all that having to sing some of these lines these are the most fitting would be assigned to him right? Am I making sense? I think I am? Either that it's not a blatant assumption of the things "she knows" but actually she saying it: "I know you've never let me down before", or making her having to sing over and over again that I'm never ever let anyone take her from me. It's like... a way of letting "her" know it by making her sing it... hear my heart break @ "you're all I want so much it's hurting"

There's also this double meaning sadness here of them being seperated by others. "That I'm never gonna let another take her love from me now". There's loads of indicators let's put it like that that ~things and stuff tried to break them up and stuff~ let's put it like that. And here he is going nope, not happening again. Nobody can take us away from eachother ever again.

Ok this was a very chaotic analysis but yeap.

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#steal my girl #perfect now #smart things with lyrics #welikeparallels

[bluewinnerangel]

From The Dining Table x Brokeback Mountain

!! Huge Brokeback Mountain Spoilers ahead !!

Since I said some stuff a bit about this yesterday and got some questions to explain a bit more I thought I'd dedicate a post to it.

SoooOOooo this is about From The Dining Table maybe being not so much autobiographical, not in the literal sense at least although mans gotta resonate with it otherwise why make a whole song about it right, but could be from the perspective of Jack in the movie / short story Brokeback Mountain and I think he might have done the same with TBSL and The Notebook as well.

FTDT (as well as Sweet Creature) sounds like it's coming straightno gay out of the Brokeback Mountain Soundtrack, explained here. Especially the tracks "The Wings" and "Brokeback Mountain 2" (that melody bit around "even my phone misses your call by the way" is just.. a copy). And yep that's the pretty big hint there, that's why I'm connecting these dots and not brushing off the coincidoinkies because you know these lyrics are not THAT specific, but combine it with the similarities in terms of sound too and welp hmmmmm

FTDT lyric breakdown x Brokeback Mountain under the cut:

In the movie, go watch it if you haven't, go read the short story if you haven't, Jack and Ennis fall in love on Brokeback Mountain and uh continue to not know how to quit each other. They both understand it's not safe to attempt to live a life together, Ennis doesn't even consider it but Jack still wants it, tries to talk about it, but it never happens. Most of their life they're silent about their feelings, they just love each other deeply yet continue to live their lives with a wife and kids, but still they can't stay away from each other and for 20 years they continue to have these "fishing trips" together and find ways to see each other. Ennis stays very conflicted about his feelings and doesn't so much own up to them as Jack does. He's a man of very few words (under the pretence of comfortable silence) and it drives Jack insane. They drink a lot, they feel alone and uncool, don't seem to call, but miss each other like crazy...

Some bits from the short story:

“How much is once in a while?” said Jack. “Once in a while ever four fuckin years?”

“No,” said Ennis, forbearing to ask whose fault that was. “I goddam hate it that you’re goin a drive away in the mornin and I’m goin back to work. But if you can’t fix it you got a stand it,” he said. “Shit. I been lookin at people on the street. This happen a other people? What the hell do they do?”

Or Jacks dialogue when he finally breaks about.. everything:

"I'll tell you what. We could have had a good life together. Fucking real good life. Had us a place of our own! But you didn't want it, Ennis. So what we got now is Brokeback Mountain! Everything's built on that! That's all we got, boy. Fucking all. So I hope you know that, if you don't never know the rest! You count the damn few times... that we have been together in nearly 20 years... and you measure the short fucking leash you keep me on... and then you ask me about Mexico and you tell me you'll kill me... for needin' somethin' I don't hardly never get! You have no idea how bad it gets! And I'm not you! I can't make it... on a couple of high-altitude fucks once or twice a year! You are too much for me, Ennis. You son of a whoreson bitch! I wish I knew how to quit you!"

And Ennis' reply:

Then why don't you? Why don't you just let me be, huh? It's because of you, Jack, that I'm like this. I'm nothin'. I'm nowhere.

So then yeah uh FTDT:

Woke up alone in this hotel room,

Played with myself, where were you? Fell back to sleep, I got drunk by noon,

I've never felt less cool

Loneliness, where are you, can't make it on a couple of high-altitude fucks a few times a year, played with myself, but need you, I'm struggling, I'm drinkin, I'm nothing, I'm nowhere. ~it's all of the above~

Some more bits from the short story:

“We herded sheep on Brokeback one summer,” said Ennis. He could hardly speak.

“Well, he said it was his place. I thought he meant to get drunk. Drink whiskey up there. He drank a lot.”

We haven't spoke since you went away,

Comfortable silence is so overrated,

Why won't you ever be the first one to break?

Even my phone misses your call, by the way

This fits Jacks feelings towards Ennis. Ennis doesn't talk. Jack seems to be ok with this silence most of the time, but really does love it a whole lot more when Ennis does talk. This after he tells Jack something personal, Jack lights up and Ennis is like bropal what:

Jack: Man, that's more words than you've spoke in the past two weeks. Ennis: Hell, that's the most I've spoke in a year.

And also as mentioned earlier, Jack is the first one to break. Ennis seems to suffer too, but he never breaks, not in front of Jack before Jack does at least.

I saw your friend that you know from work

He said you feel just fine

"He said you feel just fine" can be a way of saying to just drop it, and in the movie Jack visits their employer that had sent them off to Brokeback Mountain the next year, and asks him about Ennis. To which he doesn't get a satisfying answer whatsoever either (thank @swimmingleo ):

Boss: Well, look what the wind blew in. Jack: I was wonderin' if you was needin' any help this summer. Boss: You're wastin' your time here. Jack: What, you ain't got nothin'? Nothin' up on Brokeback? Boss: I ain't got no work for you. Jack: Ennis Del Mar ain't been around, has he? Boss: You boys sure found a way to make the time pass up there. Twist... you guys wasn't gettin' paid to leave the dogs baby-sit the sheep... while you stemmed the rose. Now get the hell out of my trailer.

I see you gave him my old t-shirt

More of what was once mine

In the end the only thing Ennis has of Jack is his old shirt. And discovers this whole time, Jack had his.

Copying a big chunk of the short story again really just go read the whole story instead:

At the north end of the closet a tiny jog in the wall made a slight hiding place and here, stiff with long suspension from a nail, hung a shirt. He lifted it off the nail. Jack’s old shirt from Brokeback days. The dried blood on the sleeve was his own blood, a gushing nosebleed on the last afternoon on the mountain when Jack, in their contortionistic grappling and wrestling, had slammed Ennis’s nose hard with his knee. He had stanched the blood, which was everywhere, all over both of them, with his shirtsleeve, but the stanching hadn’t held, because Ennis had suddenly swung from the deck and laid the ministering angel out in the wild columbine, wings folded. The shirt seemed heavy until he saw there was another shirt inside it, the sleeves carefully worked down inside Jack’s sleeves. It was his own plaid shirt, lost, he’d thought, long ago in some damn laundry, his dirty shirt, the pocket ripped, buttons missing, stolen by Jack and hidden here inside Jack’s own shirt, the pair like two skins, one inside the other, two in one. He pressed his face into the fabric and breathed in slowly through his mouth and nose, hoping for the faintest smoke and mountain sage and salty sweet stink of Jack, but there was no real scent, only the memory of it, the imagined power of Brokeback Mountain of which nothing was left but what he held in his hands.

I see it's written, it's all over his face

Everyone can tell. Nothing is said. But everyone just knows these two had ~a special bond~. Especially Jack's parents when Ennis visits their home in the end and finds that shirt.

Maybe one day you'll call me and tell me that you're sorry too

Maybe one day you'll call me and tell me that you're sorry too

Maybe one day you'll call me and tell me that you're sorry too But you, you never do

Maybe one day [...]... maybe one day... I have hope that maybe one day... but in the end. I realise it's not gonna happen -> Jack keeps hoping that maybe one day they'll live their lives together, but Ennis never lets them go there, doesn't see it as an option, he just stays silent. But in the end Jack knows where they stand, or he's always known I guess, he lets it be... The last thing we read from Jack's perspective in the short story:

Later, that dozy embrace solidified in his memory as the single moment of artless, charmed happiness in their separate and difficult lives. Nothing marred it, even the knowledge that Ennis would not then embrace him face to face because he did not want to see or feel that it was Jack he held. And maybe, he thought, they’d never got much farther than that. Let be, let be.

Woke up the girl who looked just like you I almost said your name

They're both with a family, with wives / girlfriends. I don't think there's a girl who looks just like the other, or any mention of almost saying each others names or anything, might have missed it tho I mean the rest checks out aksdjaslk. The closest maybe parallel-ish I could think of is a call between Ennis and Jacks wife:

“Jack used to mention you,” she said. “You’re the fishing buddy or the hunting buddy, I know that. Would have let you know,” she said, “but I wasn’t sure about your name and address. Jack kept most a his friends’ addresses in his head.

So.... yeah....

OK EDIT BECAUSE I MADE @larrysballetslippers VERY ANGERY because this didn't have a good ending so:

RAMBLE TIME

All that

does not mean the story of Brokeback Mountain and all its details mirror Harry's real life. IF any of this was on purpose even. He clearly loves and has referenced other movies too, like The Notebook and Papillon and those aren't copies of his life either. It just doesn't mean he's Jack in every way and Louis is exactly Ennis and the part where Ennis is showing resistance to their love must mean Louis is doing the same or whatever.

This post was just to show the parallels and you can draw whatever conclusion you want from that, but please just be aware Harry's not in control of every detail in this movie LOL and IF this song really just is a Brokeback Mountain fanpiece doesn't mean he's into exactly how this movie plays out because he's living the exact real life version in every single way. (I fear we're gonna run into these same thoughts once My Policeman is out, thaaat's gonna be fun)

If anything, this whole analysis came to be because the details in this song, in my view, do not fit Harry and Louis' descriptions of their love and dynamics and what they've been through in most of their other songs.

This analysis was larry-free and now look what you made me do @larrysballetslippers .... well. Although it did have a larry cowboy gif in the beginning asldkjaskldja AHHH WELLL

For more like this

This post has a drunk twin: a masterpost with all them Harry x Brokeback Mountain cOiNcIdEnCeS

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Brokeback Mountain short story

#brokeback mountain #ftdt #from the dining table #welikeparallels #smart things with lyrics #sorry bropals yeah ik its painful

[bluewinnerangel]

Hi! I was listening to Fine Line and Sunflower comes on. Could you maybe explain why the song is called 'Sunflower, Vol 6' rather than just 'Sunflower'? If you have the explanation that is. I'm kinda new to the fandom and I don't know a lot and your blogs really help! Thank you!

Hi! I don’t have the explanation because he never explained it, but I got my interpretations and I’ll share them! For those not new here I know the thing about stages of sunflowers has been talked about a lot but I just wanted to go over this from scratch and have it weaved into the rest of my interpretation here because this song is amazing and why not talk about this some more sdkasjklk

I think the song describes multiple stages of a relationship, where mid-song it starts over (and he still wants it all the same and the love is still just as pure and ohhhh im emo). I think it’s autobiographical if that needs to be said, and reflects on a time everything was pure crisp new relationship, the first cycle, but then they were not who they used to be, swimming in a glass half empty. That low point isn’t described in Sunflower Vol 6, instead it just skips to a later timepoint and goes “your flowers just died, plant new seeds in the melody”: they start over, a new cycle.

So then skip to what “Vol. 6″ could mean, and I think that has to do with stage 6 of a sunflower: stages 1-5 are those from seed to fully matured, where at stage 5 you can either cut em and put em in a vase to never get another cycle again from that flower or continue to stage 6 where pollination takes place, the flower starts wilting but seeds are developing, allowing a new cycle, in line with Sunflower Vol 6′s vibeyvibe.

And about that not described low point, I think we can find that description somewhere else, as I think Sunflower vol 6 describes a time pre- and post Two Ghosts [and Two Ghosts in turn describes a time around late 2012] (this bit is copied from another post):

Basically, when he takes this sharp loud inhale about 1,5 mins into the song, that’s where you could just plop down Two Ghosts. Then when Two Ghosts ends we’re coming back to Sunflower at “your flower just died”, the aftermath of their first “things were good and now they’re not” that is Two Ghosts (or: the dying of the sunflower is described in Two Ghosts) but now we’re moving on and the story continues, where he is still wanting to get to know the person, wanting to start over, “I’m still tongue tied”, and so on. This because he links the 2 songs through the lyrics:

Two Ghosts: Tongue-tied like we've never known  Sunflower vol. 6: I was just  / I’m still tongue-tied

Two Ghosts: Tastes so sweet, looks so real, sounds like something that I used to feel,  but I can't touch what I see // Trying to remember what it feels to have a heartbeat  Sunflower vol. 6: Sometimes / Sunflowers just died, keep it sweet in your memory (This one isn’t as clear as the other two, but, it’s sweet, and he remembers now)

Two Ghosts: The fridge light washes this room white, moon dances over your good side (kitchen + dancing + night)  Sunflower vol. 6: Kiss in the kitchen like it's a dance floor, I couldn’t want you any more tonight (hey it’s kitchen + dancing + night!)

So basically vol 6 = 

asdjkldksjfh sorry I had to

Related: Sunflower vol 6 readings

@ialwaysknewyouwerepunk​’s Sunflower Vol 6 close reading

My main Sunflower Vol 6 analysis thing but it’s a parallel chaos rabbit hole you know what blog you’re on lol 

small addition to the above 

There’s some sprinkles of Sunflower Vol 6 in this mixtape reading too

Just a lil Harry’s themes in music thing caused by “my eyes, want you more than melody”

#sunflower vol 6 #sunflower #smart things with lyrics #welikeparallels #two ghosts

[bluewinnerangel]

Well hello there. I hope you're having a very coucou day.

I wonder if you can do an analysis of Stockholm Syndrome. I feel like there're two interpretations and I wonder what you think.

Hi! coucou AND NOW YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS RINGING IN MY EARS AGAIN

The thing with Stockholm Syndrome (and why it took me so long to reply to you <3) is that I'm not convinced on any interpretation. Usually in a song there's some hint or link or reference that I just kinda grasp onto and go from there and if it keeps checking out I'm like ah yeah that's it, but with Stockholm Syndrome it could go either way.

This is gonna be long, I'll do a bit of a breakdown of the interview moment where Harry said it's about a nympho, and the reactions are pure gold. And then of course the lyrics. And then it descends into a little bit of a song parallel chaos because that's just my blog.

An analysis of Stockholm Syndrome and anything related under the cut:

Let's just take a tumble into the video where he explains the song with the help from the boys (that he then just trashes by dropping the nympho), segment starts at 26:07:

Soooooooo first look at their individual reactions when the song is brought up (big shoutout to all the amazing content creators giving us beautiful gifs in source-quality. I'm not one of them. I tried to get a high quality gif going for once and the red disappeared for reasons we don't understand walking in the wind):

Niall goes into oh gotta touch my nose mode,

Harry's like alright let's go you wanna know my secrets I'll tell you my secrets

Liam's amused! And that's very telling, that the mention of this song amuses him. He then says "Harry" and nods towards him too

Louis? I don't know what's going on in that brain, he's the sas queen this whole interview. He does say something here but I watched it over and over and have no idea what. Judging from his posture and behavior he's being a shady shit towards Ben as that seems to be his general attitude this whole interview.

Zayn is interesting AF too, he points to Harry with 1 hand at the back but I'm not sure what that lil gay wrist doing at the front, maybe it points at him, maybe at someone else? HMM? Either way it's pretty obvious he isn't identifying himself with that song, just like liam's reaction, giving it to Harry instantly.

And no that doesn't mean much, Harry wrote on it and the others didn't so it makes sense, but they all do seem to know what the song's about or at least have some inside joke about it that they're not saying (or, Harry did say it: that "she's a nympho" and that's just the joke)

Onto what's being said, Harry starts off with the obvious :"it's kind of along the lines of what Stockholm Syndrome is" and I think that's important, I think that maybe they either had a song idea and were like "oh so like Stockholm Syndrome" and just built from there, or it originated from maybe being fascinated by that term/condition for whatever reason and then putting that inspiration into songwriting, because most of this song is just a description of what Stockholm Syndrome is: when someone who is held against their will starts to bond with and develop positive feelings for the person holding them there. Harry's words: It's like when you develop a relationship or like feelings towards your kidnapper.

But let's look at their individual reactions again when he says that

Niall's shitting bricks and looking across the couch to the other boys

Harry's still like okay lemme just go here lemme explain this I have no shame do you have shame? I have no shame

Liam's amused! amused!

Louis has this calm over him, maybe like ye you want him to go there? You're gonna hate the answer tho lololol

Zayn is trying to help Harry's story by gesturing along, then looks at Louis? AMUSED?

Look at all their faces

Niall: ohgodohgodohgod

Harry: what about it haven't you heard no control that's about me bitch me you just wait till i write medicine

Liam: g r i n

Louis: w h a t a b o u t i t :>

Zayn: g r i n @ Louis

So you see why I'm leaning towards that lil NASTY explanation that's coming up actually being exactly that right? Just look at them.

Harry also says "she's a nympho" softly before saying it out loud. Zayn is jumping in to help again and says something along the lines of that it can also be about love, Liam has jumped in 10x already trying to explain the song, and then what does Harry do? He's like nah you don't go giving other meanings to my dirty song (or: they have the inside joke that is it) and goes

"THIS WAS MORE ABOUT LIKE A NYMPHO"

THE WHEEZE I CAN'T LOOK AT THEIR FACES AFTER HARRY SAYS THAT. LOOK LOOK LOOK

Harry: yep just did that hehe

Liam: oh god he just did that what are we gonna do

Louis: yeah what about it hehe

Niall: total utter oh god this was exactly what I was afraid of

Harry: No Control No Shame No ragrets Yes Marriage Yes Sex Yes Kissing everything the lot

Liam: I don't know how to fix this i don't know how to fix this we're live we're live we're live

Louis THE SUN IS SHINING I FEEL GOOD AND NOBODY'S GONNA STOP ME NOW OOHHH YEEEEAAHH

Zayn: Oh wow look at that sun

GOLD

So what to conclude from this, either

it's about a nympho (and that nympho is harry, or louis, probably both)

it was a running joke that it's about that as yaknow clearly you can interpret it that way but there's still another meaning to the song

Moving on, I mean the need to write about the Stockholm syndrome comes from somewhere right, maybe he was reading a book about it... oh maybe these ones...

Considering he's got a 17 black tattoo and all too. And of course those books are GAAAYYY[this link trashes Harry maybe not click it] because what's a Harry Styles song if it's not a reference to something supergay. Really. Now this can just be a funny coincidoink, just the universe being a silly again, who knows, but, it's possible. Also I believe that 17black tat was already associated with that book before Stockholm Syndrome was written? Not that that means anything. Anyway I haven't read the books so I don't know if that's gonna explain anything here, but I imagine if it's called that it's probably gonna have some similar themes.

So far it all checks out with just it being a no control one right? But reading the lyrics you can interpret it quite a lot darker too, as being controlled, by the label/management/the industry/being stuck in contracts, being stuck in keeping up this public image (see: Sign of the Times).

Harry is a nympho, this is some no control kinky shit

Harry is with a nympholouis, still some no control kinky shit

the music industry / label / management / his image / that area

A toxic relationship (not really considering this one)

Or all of the above

Let's just break down the lyrics. This is gonna get ~confusing~

Who's that shadow holding me hostage? I've been here for days

Holding me hostage + I've been here for days = a description of being kidnapped, helping to write that story of suffering from Stockholm Syndrome so possibly just filler, but then we get details: by a shadow and he doesn't know who that is.

Now I'm sitting here here in the Fine Line era with Do You Know Who You Are and I Don't Know Who She Is and HHMMMM maybe just pipe it down with the parallels

Oh no wait let's get back to the parallels because it's already some No Control vibeyvibes just from what he's said about the song alone, but then we get:

Who's that shadow holding me hostage? - Stockholm Syndrome

Her perfume's holding me ransom - No Control

okay no that's fine moving on

That he's asking who is that shadow? which can be his public image: a shadow can mean an reflected image of himself that isn't him, an imitation, something that follows you everywhere you go, and Harry being like who is that, it ain't the real me. But he's been there for days, he's been playing this person for days on end? Or maybe he's stuck hearing about shit about himself? Like can't escape it?

Who's this whisper telling me that I'm never gonna get away?

I Don't Know Who He Is again but it's described as a whisper + more of being held probably forever

A whisper is a synonym of rumor/gossip/scandal/story, again fitting that whole image idea I got going on here.

Parallel with "they told me that the end is near we gotta get away from here" - Sign of the times

I know they'll be coming to find me soon

They entered the chat, who is they? I mean the idea of the song is that he's being kidnapped right, so maybe this is just the storyline, but it relates to the next line:

But I fear I'm getting used to being held by you

Oh but now there's a You. Who is the you? It seems to imply it's the shadow/whisper as they're all holding him in places, but he knows this "you", while he questions who the shadow/whisper is. So it could be that it shifts here and "you" is someonelouis else and we're just building up to some other meaning chorus, because welp...

Oh, baby, look what you've done to me Oh, baby, look what you've done now Oh, baby, I'll never leave you if you keep holding me this way Oh, baby, look what you've done to me Oh, baby, you got me tied down Oh, baby, I'll never leave if you keep holding me this way

nympho entered the chat, this doesn't seem to be an unknown shadow whisper man, this is Oh Baby, look what you and your lack of control are doing to me

Alternate interpretation: the "Oh baby" and the "fell for you" and such are just added bits to make the song seem more fun, create this interpretation of a nympho, but its original meaning is dark and you know the label / management / contracts and such.

Also always consider why not both.

Who's this man that's holding your hand And talking about your eyes?

Now there's a man and "he"!? Is this another perspective? And it's Louis' bit? D... id.... did he have Louis sing a bit from another perspective? Because well what else is it, it suddenly flips. The whole song is me me me I'm being held and things are being done to me me me and then suddenly whambam there's a "man" doing things to a "you"? (and then in the next line there's no longer the "I" being held but the "he" is) God the brainpayne.

...Listen I wanted to find parallels here to explain these lines but all these 1D songs are talking about holding hands and eyes. I... pff... I got nothing. I don't understand, I don't understand, this song What you do to me when you hold his hand

Let's still try it tho, he goes "who is this man talking about your eyes" so let's see who is talking about eyes, and welp the first one I notice:

I just can't get enough of you, The pedal's down, my eyes are closed, No control - No Control OH OKAY OKAY

There are so many eyes tho, just some:

There's a lightning in your eyes, I can't deny - Ready to Run

Let me be the one to light a fire inside those eyes - Diana

But again, egh, songs are just "I have eyes", "I have a heart", "I have love", like there's not much to do with any of this.

Used to sing about being free But now he's changed his mind

But then there's also this line that fits the "this is about the label/management/industry" interpretation: "Used to sing about being free But now he's changed his mind", like, is he starting to like his image? Is he starting to enjoy the.. insanity? I mean, Maybe? -> It's getting crazy / but I'm into it (Kiwi). That duality of you got my devotion but man I can hate you sometimes (Fine Line) is quite a persistent theme in his lyrics, this could be one of it.

I know they'll be coming to find me soon But my Stockholm syndrome is in your room Yeah, I fell for you

back to the previous perspective, they're gonna take me away from you soon like I know I'm not hidden away, people know how to find me, but I wanna stay, I fell for you, I'm in love with you?

All my life I've been on my own I used the light to guide me home

He's using the light to guide him home, ok lighthouseman. (I don't have any brainspace left anymore can you tell)

But now together we're alone And there's no other place I'd ever wanna go

previously already specified: in your room, they're alone in you's room wow I figured it out.

So in summary: He's just with a person he wants to be with, and holding him (and also it's kinky) but they will be coming to get him away from that person soon, and/or there's a version of him that he doesn't really recognize all that much and he's stuck there. Oh and also a perspective shift when Louis sings.

~~and now for some quick parallels~~

"I used the light to guide me home, but now together we're alone" - Stockholme Syndrome

"I'll be your light, you'll never feel like you're alone, I'll make this feel like home" - Home

Louis you keep on referring to Harry's kinky music, strange bropal behavior

Find my other song analyses here

#sorry this is a wild ride #im still not set on an interpretation #stockholm syndrome #who is the nympho #probably both #no control #home #kmm #four hangout #smart things with lyrics #welikeparallels

[bluewinnerangel]

Hey.. do you know of a masterpost that would show all the brokeback mountain coincidences? And maybe a list that compiles all the movie references that are somehow involved here?

No but imma make that now yep It’s time to yeehaw. This thing is gonna be half a joke just pointing at any cowboys and beans and nonsense but the other half is an oh shit I think he’s actually referencing the most well known gay and closeted and struggling movie of all time isn't he, he being Harry, because this post is mostly Harry really.

Buckle your big belt buckle up.

Watch Brokeback Mountain if you haven’t. Or read the short story.

REALLY BIG BIG BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN SPOILERS AHEAD:

The big oh shi CoInCiDeNcE is in HS1. Both Sweet Creature and From The Dining Table ~could very well be~ inspired by / a nod to / fanpieces of the Brokeback Mountain soundtrack. There's SC x "Snow" as well as FTDT x "Brokeback Mountain 2" + "The Wings". It's loud. Really loud. Explained in detail here

Then I (this is just me really) got a bit of a theory that FTDT is inspired by Brokeback Mountain beyond just the soundtrack, that it's (partially) written from the character's perspective (but in turn because Harry resonates with it, I think it's both, but the details in there might be nods to the things happening in the movie instead). Explained in detail here

aaaaaaaaaaaanyway back to other parallels

Not really necessarily brokeback mountain, but they both started off making these im a horse and you're the rider jokes. I don't think Louis really has after 2012 orso but Harry's still running with it, making a whooole lotta horsebackriding comments (which doesn't need a gay cowboy movie ref to be gay aslkdjaslkd). See this post

And another big thing in Brokeback Mountain is their alone time trip being explained as a fishing trip (spoiler: they don't fish), it's a big part of the movie, and you know Harry's got a thing for being a fisherman (while I doubt he really does a lotta fishing either)... Post about this fisherman behavior here

You didn't go up there to fish. You and him...

...Harry's ADDICTED to that one cap:

Then the fetus larry rope thing, yeeaaah happens somewhere else too

woopwoop

I guess let's also bring in the part where the dude's called Jack Twist adkjlaskjdhak

And Jack Twist is described as curly-headed and smiling and buck-toothed. sadaksldjask

(this is really just deranging into nothing, but it's funny so why not)

More dumb coincidences? Screenplay was written by Larry mclastnameirrelevanttothejokedudeperson

And in the short story the way Ennis remembers Jack most fondly is with a can of beans (it comes back a couple of times)

Early in the short story: They had a high-time supper by the fire, a can of beans each

Middle: but Ennis said more likely he’d just go out with Jack and get drunk. Jack was not a restaurant type, he said, thinking of the dirty spoons sticking out of the cans of cold beans balanced on the log.

And in the end: Around that time Jack began to appear in his dreams, Jack as he had first seen him, curly-headed and smiling and buck-toothed, talking about getting up off his pockets and into the control zone, but the can of beans with the spoon handle jutting out and balanced on the log was there as well

Sorry just laugh just laugh.

HARRY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN MOST OTHER BEANS??

Pls let it be clear im absolutely kidding...

Anyway

Adding this just that's the gayest yeehaw I ever heard

SAW THIS ON THE GOOGLE, ADDING IT

IM SORRY

And then there's part 2 - that FTDT x Brokeback Mountain lyric breakdown

#brokeback mountain #welikeparallels #link post #masterpost #Sweet Creature #FTDT #I really left you in the inbox for weeks huh

[bluewinnerangel]

This is about One Direction.

Of course. Soooo I guess I just made a masterpost of times not saying things showed up in their lyrics. Not just 1D, but all of their solo work as well. It's a lot. I don't know if it's really uncalled for or super called for, you know to post this now, on (close to) their 11 year anniversary and all that, but it's been in my drafts for a while and it seems to be wtf are they, all this band does is lie central today so I'm just gonna release it. Here you have it. I'm sorry.

It’s loooaaaads of Zayn (but I mean he has the most lyrics too) but they’re all at it a bunch. If you're into song parallels / reoccurring themes / patterns as much as I am this is going to be gold, if not then its just a whole bunch of ~lines from songs and more songs~.

Anyway what pushed me to do this in general is how well it highlights they were and remain silent. On what exactly I can't tell you and that's the whole point, they apparently can't either. Here’s a fun gif while we cry over having way too many questions:

Times not saying stuff (or not listening/being heard, having secrets, truth/lying etc: lack of honest communication) showed up in their music below the cut:

Just be aware that loads of these are definitely taken out of context, and while for some it's just really funny that I list them here between more serious lines, for others it's not very fair, but for most I think the context actually doesn't matter that much as the theme / vibe and choices of wording things in music actually matter more than whatever concept of what a song is about its written into. So it's about the persistent theme here, whatever the context it's written into, and yaknow even if half of them can be explained away there's still the other half. (also i might have missed a lot but look at how much this is already) Anyway:

One Direction (don’t mind me ignoring the first 2 albums):

Midnight Memories

Written in these walls are the stories that I can't explain - Story Of My Life

I know nothing's making sense, For tonight let's just pretend - Midnight Memories

Why is it so hard to say it? - Strong

So many words we're not saying - Strong

One day you'll come into my world and say it all - Something Great

One day you'll say these words, I've thought but never said - Something Great

The script was written and I could not change a thing, I want to rip it all to shreds and start again - Something Great

But you, you don't tell the truth - Little White Lies

And your eyes keep saying things - Little White Lies

I don't know how else to sum it up, 'Cause words ain't good enough, There's no way I can explain your love - Better Than Words

I whispered something in her ear that I just can't repeat - Alive

Four

Some say, "She's such a fake", That her love is made up - Girl Almighty

Spaces between us hold all our secrets, Leaving us speechless - Spaces

And you say, It's hard to keep a secret, Girl - Change Your Ticket

You're the truth I can explain, you're the only one I see, it's not an illusion to me - Illusion

Made in the A.M.

And if you like having secret little rendezvous, if you like to do the things you know that we shouldn't do - Perfect

All I ever wanted was the truth - Infinity

All I know at the end of the day, is you want what you want and you say what you say - End of the Day

I think I might give up everything, just ask me to, pay attention, I hope that you listen - If I Could Fly

In her eyes there's no lies, no lies, there's no question, she's not in a disguise - What A Feeling

Unexplainable, a love that only we could understand - Love You Goodbye

'Cause the truth is out, I realize that without you here life is just a lie - History

Saw your body language and I know how you're feeling, You look like the kind of girl that's tired of speaking - Temporary Fix

All my favourite conversations, always made in the A.M. Cause we don't know what we're saying, we're just swimming round in our glasses, and talking out of our asses - A.M.

Make a little conversation, so long I've been waiting, to let go of myself and feel alive - Home

Louis

All the smiles that I'm faking/Maybe I was lying when I told you "Everything is great, Everything is fucking great" - Miss You

It's not over 'til it's all been said - Just Hold On

But you only get half of the story - Just Like You

I'm just like you, If you only knew - Just Like You

Things we'd never say to someone else out loud, - We Made It

This is everything I've waited for, Now we can finally have a conversation, That I wish we could've had before - Too Young

And no amount of words will ever be enough - Walls

I took some time 'cause I ran out of energy of playing someone I heard I'm supposed to be - Habit

Tell me the truth, Tell me do you still remember feeling young, Strong enough to get it wrong, In front of all these people - Fearless

You know as well as I, it's all lies - Fearless

We're sleeping on our problems like we'll solve them in our dreams - Defenceless

Tryna find what to say to you, Been up all night, All night, running all my lines, But it's only the truth, Been up all night, Not sure how to say this right, Got so much to lose - Defenceless

But you don't have a thing to prove - Defenceless

tall stories on the page - Only The Brave

Nothing is original, there's nothing left to say, You won't be the first or be the last to bleed, Every broken heart as far as your eye can see, It's a copy of a copy of a copy - COAC

Harry

We don't talk about it, It's something we don't do - Meet Me In The Hallway

We don't talk enough, we should open up, before it's all too much, will we ever learn? We've been here before, it's just what we know - Sign of the Times

Tongue-tied like we've never known, Telling those stories we already told, 'Cause we don't say what we really mean - Two Ghosts

I always think about you and how we don't speak enough - Sweet Creature

Tell me something, tell me something, You don't know nothing, just pretend you do, Tell me something just before you go, Oh, tell me something I don't already know - ESNY

I told you, but I know you never listen, I hope you can see, the shape that I'm in - Woman

We haven't spoke since you went away, Comfortable silence is so overrated - From The Dining Table

You don't have to say you love me, You don't have to say nothing, You don't have to say you're mine, Honey - Adore You

Would you believe it? - Adore You

What do you mean? - Lights Up (THIS IS A JOKE ORRR ISSS ITTT)

Forget what I said, It's not what I meant, And I can't take it back, I can't unpack the baggage you left, What am I now? - Falling

And it kills me 'cause I know we've run out of things we can say - Falling

What if I'm someone you won't talk about? - Falling

He takes a boat out, Imagines just sailing away, And not telling his mates, He wouldn't know what to say - She

While he plays pretend, So pretend - She

I was just tongue-tied / I’m still tongue-tied - Sunflower, Vol 6

You gotta see it to believe it - Canyon Moon

Quick pause in conversation - Canyon Moon

Pretends not to know the words - Canyon Moon

I don't need all the answers - TPWK

I don't know what I'd tell you if you asked me for the truth - Anna

I don't ever tell you how I really feel, 'Cause I can't find the words to say what I mean, And nothing's ever easy, That's what they say - Just A Little Bit Of Your Heart

This by the way also demonstrates why I don’t think Harry&Louis have problems with miscommunication within their relationship but rather to the public, because:

Niall

And I want to tell you everything, the words I never got to say the first time around - This Town

Over and over the only truth, Everything comes back to you - This Town

And if you get lost in the light, It's OK. I can see in the dark, all your thoughts running through your head, the things you think better left unsaid - Since We’re alone

And I tell you things you've never heard before, asking questions to the ceiling - Flicker

Just the entire song Fire Away

She closed the door, She hides behind the face nobody knows, She feels her skin touch the floor, She wants to fight, But her eyes are tired, nobody's on her side, She wants to feel like she did before, She looks into her mirror, Wishing someone could hear her, so loud - Mirrors she is harry fight me

'Cause the last time that we talked seems like forever, and ever, feels like you don't even know me, just me and the stars can get lonely - Dear Patience

Can you see that I'm anxious? Can you hear what I'm saying? - Dear Patience

If I pour my heart out, can you keep a promise? - Dear Patience

'Cause the situation is like a mountain that's been weighing on my conscience, if I'm being honest - Dear Patience

I'm not saying that you're lying but you're leaving out the truth and I'm not saying that you're guilty 'cause I don't have any proof, feeling like I'm going crazy and I don't know what to do ‘cause on paper you don't break them but it hurts so bad the way you bend the rules - Bend The Rules

Just say nothing, small talk only gets in the way - Small Talk (LOL ORRR ISSS ITTT)

If we're not gonna do this honestly baby won't ya give me back what you took apart when I was on my knees in the darkness, you'd be there to break my fall, But now I'm lying here so helpless - Arms Of A Stranger

You don't have to change when I'm around you so go ahead and say what's on your mind. When you're with me, no judgement, you can get that from anyone else - No Judgement 

we don't have to prove nothing - No Judgement

I'll keep your secrets safe till the time we both find ourselves alone again - No Judgement

I want to let all my defenses down, scream until you hear me out, I'll lay it on the line for you, my mind's made up - San Francisco

So tell me you want it, a thousand miles away from the day that we started, but I'm standing here with you just tryna be honest, If honesty means telling you the truth - Still

Zayn

and I can’t tell you why because my brain can’t equate it, tell me your lies because I just can’t face it - It’s You

I won't cover my scars, I'll let 'em bleed so my silence won't be mistaken for peace - It’s You

So say what you wanna say, what you wanna, so say what you wanna say, what you gotta say, now, so say what you wanna say, what you want - BeFoUr

No strings for you to pull on, you've got your tongue in your cheek, so pardon if I don't speak - BeFoUr

'Cause I have no time to help you find all the words, melodies and memories, stories that sound absurd, I will tell no lies - rEaR vIeW

don't think because you're with me this is real - wRoNg

They don't know what I know, how long I've had to hold, you're like a commotion, all because of me, so take it off, let's break down all of our walls, right now, I wanna see it all, I don't wanna cool off, so let's cross the lines we lost. You were right on the border, No falling in, don't need no proof, Beautiful insanity, You're like a movie, change the scene, taste your sweet profanity - BoRdErSz (again this just looks like a sexy sexy thing OOORRRR ISSS ITTT)

The entirety of tRuTh but:

Don't know how many times, I've had to say this to you -  tRuTh

I won't point any fingers, I won't say it was you, I let life take its time, And in time you see the truth, I won't ask any questions, I won't say it was you, I'll let life take its time, And in time you see the truth, See the truth [8x] -  tRuTh

And in time you’ll see the truth. -  tRuTh

sit and talk shit all night, Does that make it right for smoke - lUcOzAdE

And the only solution is making shit confusing - lUcOzAdE

No lies in my eyes, nothing but truth will leave my mouth, I'm tryna fucking scream but the words won't come out, I'm, tryna fuckin' scream but the words won't come out - lUcOzAdE

Hey, what's up? It's been a while, Talking 'bout it's not my style - LIKE I WOULD (Also LIKE I WOULD I feel like in its entirety is like hey waddup my 1D bitches we still not talkinig huh but aflkjdslakfj)

What if I changed my mind? What if I said it's over? I've been flying so long, Can't remember what it was like to be sober, What if I lost my lives? What if I said game over? What if I forget my lines, And I lose all my composure? - Back To Life

I guess we all got a story, oh, Just tellin' mine, Change the scenario - Imprint

The entirety of Talk To Me, but:

The way that you say, The things that you do, I've been through, All of the games, All of the ways, That you've been fooled - Talk To Me

Talk to me, talk to me, yeah, oh, Talk to me, talk to me, Talk to me, talk to me, Talk to me, talk to me, Talk to me, TAAALLKKKTOTOOHHHMEEEHH sorry

Say your piece, The words that come out, Out of your mouth, I wanna hear - Talk To Me

We ain't keepin' no secrets - Talk To Me

Whispers in the background, Behind closed doors - There You Are

I don't mind, you can tell me your lies, I don't mind - I Don’t Mind

Street lamps lit like they're tryna teach us, I've seen this scene before, real life, The nature wrote the score, my lines - Good Guy

Cause I'm the one, the one, the one that you wish you knew - You Wish You Knew

Do you hear yourself when you speak? Do you see yourself desperately talkin' shit? Tryna act like you mad, I don't know you like that - You Wish You Knew

Aaand the entirety of Scripted again

I don't wanna say what's scripted - Scripted

When you lied to my face I could see the truth, Every step of the way I knew, How you fool me, boo - Entertainer

I watch you, I laugh away, fake it too - Entertainer

No one's playing no games, 'Cause that's basic, I'm being straight up, I know a fake love when I see it anyway - Entertainer

Cause now the whole damn world will know, That we're too numb and just too dumb to change the story, Neither one, one of us wants to say we're sorry - Good Years

hold the pain deep inside, It's in my eyes - Good Years

I think I need some fresh air, Feelin' under pressure, Don't wanna talk about it, Don't even get me started - Fresh Air

The truth won't break my heart, No, don't you worry, I already know oh oh, Too many bones inside your closet, You thought you buried deep, But they never let me get a minute of peace, How do you sleep? - Rainberry

Lost in the moment with no words to speak, I can't find no peace - Insomnia

Like I know I can't take it back, No there's nothing I can say, Must be an addiction, I wanted it all, didn't expect it to fall, Must be an affliction, I wanted to call, but I didn't call, Now it's keeping me up night and day, Keeping me up night and day - Too Much

When the room becomes a game we play, When lines they seem to turn to snakes, I guess I'll turn you back, Say white lies to your face, You know I love my place, Nothing I can say, Nothing I can say (nothing I can say) - Too Much

[Video interlude:] [Cop:] Your life in the daytime is over. There's eyes on you everywhere. You know that, right? I'm watching you. My crew's watching you. You know your little homies? They pissed off. They mad at you, bro. Your name is mud on the streets. Oh, I know who you are. [Zayn:] You don't know me. - Dusk Till Dawn

We were shut like a jacket - Dusk Till Dawn

You play your role and I play the same - Still Got Time

Zayn’s got a fking album called Nobody Is Listening

Really just Calamity as a whole again, but ok:

I prefer speaking in analogies - Calamity

Nobody, nobody is listening to me, Nobody, nobody is listening, Nobody, nobody is listening to me, Nobody, nobody is listening to me - Calamity

In too deep, we're rearranged, Now you wanna ask for names, We can't let this fruit go bad, Saying things we can't take back, In too deep, we're rearranged, Say you feel the same, Why? - Better

I know I'm always in my head, Some things, they must be said - Outside

Won't tell no lies, no lies to you - Vibez

It's like a force we can't explain - Connexion

So tired of fake friends, And fake love, you know, No time for no lie - Unfuckwitable

Forget whatever you been told - Unfuckwitable

Tightrope sounds like he’s ready to tell all, just the whole thing again.

Answers that will lie inside myself, What will I leave behind me? Where will I choose to go? To tell the truth, I'm tired of falling, When I'm floating I'm closer to you, We can't control all the outcomes, Let go of the reins, ride the rhythm, Doubled my vision, ain't fairly new to this feeling, Searchin' for meaning, still don't believe it, Stopped at the ceiling, all these years - River Road

Liam

This is only and all just Say It All basically one of the few songs he wrote and release is a wholeass song decidated to the point here:

Say what you want, say what you want

Now that just leaves you all of this shit, all of the bliss, tell me something real

Walls going up like we strangers, took me forever to say this

Baby, we should say it all, say it all, There's beauty in these broken walls, broken walls, Holding back is criminal, criminal

One of us should make the call, make the call

Baby, we should say it all, say it all

Sometime's it's bad

Baby, I know that you nervous

Sick and tired

SORRY ABOUT THIS

#HOW are we tagging this #all this band does is lie #miscommunication #themes? #welikeparallels #smart things with lyrics #so fking many lyrics god what to do here #liars #shitty little liars #pretty little shit liars

[bluewinnerangel]

Hiii, I read your Louis 28 songs lining up with H’s albums post a while ago - honestly that boy is ridiculous I couldn’t stop laughing - and with the sunflower vol 6 comparison, the first line of the equivalent song ‘come away from the window’ immediately made me think of flowers in the window by travis. There’s this Twitter thread about the 2 songs. Don’t know if it really links any further than just the title but thought I’d put it out there. Have a lovely day!!

Okay BUCKLE UP. I too realised this a while back and have wanted to add that to the post since but whenever I try to edit that monster, tumblr’s just like I can’t hear you lalalala and just...doesn’t save the edit. Anyways! I’m gonna use this ask to talk about this, about ALL THIS (yeah this is why it took me so long to answer this ask, sorry anon) because Oh Boi have I wanted to talk about this. 

First up, little recap of that twitter thread: Harry really loves the song Travis - Flowers in the window. He has called it his favorite song in 2011 on twitter, again in a 2012 interview, put it on his top 10 all time songs mixtape in 2016, and in 2018 named this song when asked what he’d want played at his funeral. 

The linked twitter thread goes on to find parallels between this song to a bunch of 1D/Harry songs, but I just want to focus on Sunflower vol. 6, because this song seems to be very very very inspired by Flowers in the Window. Both songs describe going through different stages (it’s been ages come so far fro-) with someone, each chorus using the same words and buildup but slightly altered to change its meaning, placing them further down into a timeline, later timepoints in a relationship. It’s as if inbetween verse and chorus time passes where stuff happens but that stuff isn’t included in the song, just the feelings and how they slightly change and grow over time, always still including the same amount of love. They’re both really cute lovesongs that compare their love/loved one with flowers and stages of growth. Besides that there are really obvious links in terms of lyrics too, the most obvious being “plant new seeds and watch them grow” vs “plant new seeds in the melody”, but also “there’s no reason to feel bad” vs “I don’t wanna make you feel bad”. Both lyrics with the mentioned lyrics highlighted (Sorry it’s ugly):

(hold on I'm not done)

(Am I getting to the point? Not before sidetracking 28 more times:) I have a lot more to say about Sunflower vol. 6. The gallery lyrics for one!? (not mine but I screamed in the tags idk does that count)

EDIT: for a full lyric breakdown @ialwaysknewyouwerepunk just posted this awesome analysis of Sunflower vol 6!

I’m also entirely convinced it’s placed both before and after Two Ghosts. Basically, when he takes this sharp loud inhale about 1,5 mins into the song, that’s where you could just plop down Two Ghosts. (you could say, he’s about to jump into the water, about to swim in the glass half-empty, I know now I’m just going too far but eh), then when Two Ghosts ends we’re coming back to Sunflower at “your flower just died”, the aftermath of their first “things were good and now they’re not” that is Two Ghosts, (or: the dying of the sunflower is described in Two Ghosts) but now we’re moving on and the story continues, where he is still wanting to get to know the person, wanting to start over, “I’m still tongue tied”, and so on. Lemme just stop rambling and actually convince you, really, because he links the 2 songs through the lyrics:

Two Ghosts: Tongue-tied like we've never known Sunflower vol. 6: I was just  / I’m still tongue-tied

Two Ghosts: Tastes so sweet, looks so real, sounds like something that I used to feel,  but I can't touch what I see // Trying to remember what it feels to have a heartbeat Sunflower vol. 6: Sometimes / Sunflowers just died, keep it sweet in your memory (This one isn’t as clear as the other two, but, it’s sweet, and he remembers now)

Two Ghosts: The fridge light washes this room white, moon dances over your good side (kitchen + dancing + night) Sunflower vol. 6: Kiss in the kitchen like it's a dance floor, I couldn’t want you any more tonight (hey it’s kitchen + dancing + night!)

Side-side-sidetrack: To make matters worse, I also think Two Ghosts was a great attempt at weaving lyrics in such a way that the majority of it can be applied to both the beard (or PR stunt counterpart, Taylor in this case) as well as the real deal (Mr haha 28 haha 369 haha you read into things lololol I hate him), and that this kitchen dancing in the night thing was initially a nudge to miss Swift, as in All Too Well she sings:

Cause there we are again in the middle of the night,  We're dancing 'round the kitchen in the refrigerator light

All Too Well being on the album Red, the album the whole Haylor stunt was for from her side, written before she knew H, was supposed to be about Jake, just think about the logic of H taking that lyric and using it to describe their relationship and how idiotically strange that would be if it wasn’t a stunt. And there are more nudges like it, but, I don’t think I should sidetrack even further. Let’s just quickly pause and try to consider Sunflower being about Camille and Two Ghosts about Taylor and then H using the same words and descriptions for each relationship that were 7 years apart while his albums clearly show he absolutely doesn’t lack the ability to songwrite and... use new words... and describe things... like with range and stuff... just sayin.... 

TLDR: these songs link on purpose and here is a 28-boop-hint why. Now we can go back to Flowers in the Window vs Sunflower Vol 6 and what the hell it has to do with Louis’ playlist.

In case someone bumps into this without reading the longass deranged puzzle of Louis’ 28 songs playlist possibly hiding Fine Line (But if you do, I’m so sorry for everything, you’ll be here forever, I’m so sorry), a brief summary:

Ok no a serious summary: in 2019 Louis made a public playlist called “28 Songs”, that included, you guessed it, 28 songs. In the initial version uploaded in february @sexatoxbridge high fived god with the reach that the lil shit lined up the start of the playlist to HS1 (here, my addition here)

Louis later on changed up the songs a couple of times throughout the year, putting emphasis on “a fresh set of bangers” on the last update in October (the day before announcing Walls, and Fine Line was announced less than 2 weeks after that)

And when I started listening to this playlist late to the party after knowing Fine Line pretty well, I was like mfer did done it again. The first 3 songs seemed to line up with Fine Line, and the remaining fit as well, but just, scrambled. I did make a case for it being lined up with a draft version of the Fine Line album, but now thinking about it (the whole thing being a massive reach, but within a reach that one really took off well into space), it makes more sense that he just hussled them, I mean, I kinda doubt H wouldn’t be set on an album order less than 2 weeks before announcing it? Either way, I was able to find a buddy for each song a little all too well, with at first sight Sunflower vol. 6 pairing up with Ten Tonnes - Lucy being the weakest link, other than “under the sun, I’m calling where you belong” = a sunflower? Not “resolving” that shit haunted me for way too long and I attempted to crack it (copy-paste from the 28 songs post:) 

Sunflower vol 6 tells a story of starting over as it first goes through wanting to be close to someone, then having them, but then “your flowers just died, plant new seeds in the melody” (+ Stage 6 of sunflowers starts a new cycle/pollination). In Lucy, someone is two steps away from the singer, in a place they left their faith/got burned (H: your flowers just died), and the singer is telling them to not stay in that place, pick their faith back up (H: plant new seeds in the melody) and come back into his arms (H: let me inside, I wanna get to know you).

And I thought I had found peace. Wrong. Fast forward

it hit me. And it hit anon as well.

Lucy pairs with Sunflower’s inpiration, with Flowers in the Window.

So the above crack-attempt still stands, as all 3 songs share this theme, but in terms of lyrics there isn’t much overlap between Lucy and Sunflower vol. 6. 

H O W E V E R

Travis: Flowers in the window Lucy:  Come away from the window

Travis: When I first held you, I was cold, a melting snowman, I was told Lucy: Frost is glowing, on the glass, where you left your faith

Travis: But there was no one there to hold Lucy: I'm calling where you belong, You're crawling back to my arms

It.... it just goes on like that. I tried to color code things that seemed similar and welp mostly failed I think because the whole thing is just very similar. It starts off describing cold, with someone holding someone else in the past, but not now, basically wanting warmth back, the you/Lucy being in a place holding onto negative feelings (that the singer seems to know well or is wise about) over things that happened in time periods that aren’t described in the song itsself, telling the you/person that there’s time, but please don’t be long, there is time to change and grow into something better, with Lucy at a timepoint of being a bit further removed from the singer, as compared to Flowers in the Window (actually that part fits better with Sunflower vol. 6). If you told me Travis and Lucy are in a relationship I mean look at this shit...

Long story short either I’m insane or Louis is but probably both.

#sorry for this #honestly this cant have enough memes to cope with the level of insanity going on here #welikeparallels #smart things with lyrics #gayvinci code #sunflower vol 6 #FL #flowers in the window #mixtape #two ghosts #28 boops bitch

[bluewinnerangel]

TLDR: Louis lined up Walls to Lights Up. Watch from the 01:56 timestamp as shown in the middle of the video.

Playing around lining up some videos I noticed that not just Walls x TPWK share a visual at the 1:40 timestamp but that Lights Up was first to do this. 

But then it gets better. As I was watching the rest of the video I realised Louis William Gayvincicode Tomlinson-Styles pretty much lined up the whole sequence… And people think they don’t micro-manage their music videos. Anygays, I thought I’d spend some time showing you exactly what I was seeing. There are more parallels than just the obvious standing in the middle of the crowd visuals, but since they line up so well I added little confused Nialls everytime that imagery shows up in either. The actual timestamp of the music videos is in the middle of the vid, but I cut everything before he walks through the door as there aren’t many parallels there. Sorry if that’s confusing.

If the copy of a copy of a copy at 1:40 as shown in the middle of the vid didn’t do it for you I guarantee from 1:56 you’ll never be the same again.

#gayvinci code #welikeparallels #synced music videos

[bluewinnerangel]

Thinking about this, you should do a reading of his Another man mixtape

Hi anon! Oh no that parallel isn't painful at all sobs. 

Ok I’m going to dive into this mixtape but I gotta be honest I'm a little bit scared. Reading (into) Harry's favorite 10 songs of all time is a bit of a daunting task and I don't want to dissappoint (myself). But let's just talk about it and see where it leads.

Quick background info: in 2016 Harry was interviewed for Another Man which, besides the interview and the photoshoot, came with his most treasured possessions and his top 10 favorite tracks of all time presented in the form of a mixtape

spotify playlist here

Pink Floyd - Breathe

Elvis Presley – Can’t Help Falling in Love

Paul McCartney – Heart of the Country

Crosby, Stills & Nash – Helplessly Hoping

Ray Charles – Drown in My Own Tears

Blaze Foley – Ooh Love

Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge Over Troubled Water

Van Morrisson – Tupelo Honey

Travis – Flowers in the Window

Patsy Cline – She’s Got You

A reading of Harry's Another Man Mixtape - top 10 songs of all time below the cut:

1

I'm just staring at the first song pretty much thinking oh shit im in trouble already. 

It’s easy to see why this is H’s favorite song, I mean how can you not love Breathe. It's a masterpiece. I kinda don't even wanna touch it and let it speak for itsself. I interpret Breathe as well, life. And to choose your path carefully. It starts with a heartbeat+baby crying / rollercoaster ride, which, well, both symbolize (the start of) life. The first verse being about enjoying life while you're young that bleeds into the second verse, getting older, the 3rd verse could be interpreted as the grind, the last verse issuing that warning if you dont ride the tide, if you don't find that balance, when the high's too high (and the low's too low) I guess, that's just gonna be it for you.

I don't think I need to relate that to H, it relates to everybody. For us regular boring peoples it can easily be interpreted as finding that balance to enjoy life and not waste it away working, the way society tells you is the standard, while for artists that applies as well, but also they're living the very high highs and some lose themselves in it, "race towards an early grave". I’m sure there are also parallels between Breathe and Harry’s lyrics, but I mean both artists are ~~nice and vague~~, so I don’t think it will be easy to spot them (I tried briefly and didn’t see much but I might be blind)(but don't get me started on Wish You Were Here)  

Also, overlapping themes with Harry's work (I think I found a way to kinda go over these songs):

Nautical theme (ride the tide, wave) 

Crying (tears you'll cry)

wet (^) 

Sun/shine (forget the sun)

Flying (high you fly) 

high highs and low lows (verse 4) 

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving (leave, don't leave me)

growth (like the whole song) 

looking for somewhere to belong 

2

Well if this isn't up there with the most universally loved sappy lil oh he in looove songs. This is just a beautiful beautiful beautiful song but I don't think there's much to say about it, the lyrics speak for themselves.

Also:

Hopeless romantic (I mean the whole song)

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving (shall I stay / take my whole life too) strike 2

nautical theme (like a river flows surely to the sea) strike 2

wet (^) strike 2

looking for somewhere to belong (some things are meant to be / in an "i belong with you" sense) strike 2

But also

Don't blame me for falling - To Be So Lonely

3

Again I just LOVE these songs, I'm gonna find a quiet place to settle and it's gonna be beautiful. This song is also doing this lil trick of changing single words in a line to change the meaning as you get to later verses (Looking for a home -> living in a home, I want a sheep -> I got a sheep), taking the listener along on a trip through time, just with tiny tiny lyric changes (Flowers in the window / Sunflower vol 6 do this too).

Also:

LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE TO BELONG STRIKE 3

high highs and low lows (I Look high, I look low) strike 2

growth (where the holy people grow) strike 2

"Home" (yes generic af, but do you really expect me not to aggressively point at each and every mention of home when Harry just Sweet Creatured that shit to the Canyon Moon and back)

4

This song is fun! I mean... the song is sad and all, but the wordplay is fun:

Helplessly hoping her harlequin hovers

Gasping at glimpses of gentle

Wordlessly watching he waits by the window and wonders

Heartlessly helping himself

Stand by the stairway you'll see something

Certain to tell you confusion has its cost

Love isn't lying, It's loose in a lady who lingers

I’m really really resisting the urge to turn that chorus into a larry

Also,

Hopeless romantic strike 2

flying (wishing he could fly) strike 2

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving strike 3

LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE. TO. BELONG. STRIKE 4

5

Jesus Harry this is really hopeless. Ok.. pff.. ehh...

really hopeless romantic strike 3

a whole lotta crying strike 2

REALLY REALLY WET strike 3

"Home" strike 2

"Blue"

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving strike 4

looking for somewheretobelong(this is getting excessive)strike 5

6

"blue" strike (blue eyes even this time) 2

hopeless fking romantic again strike 4

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving (see me/her again) strike 5

And as @ladychlo points out, "If I Could Only Fly" this is on the same album, which had me comparing this album to IICF, and, welp you can make this comparison:

Which yep not painful at all no. I really like the “If only I could fly” vs “If I could fly” + “[for your eyes] only”.

Again like all my posts I have to emphasize when pointing out song parallels I’m not saying that the song that came later is definitely intentionally is purposefully inspired by the other one, effectively made out of bits and pieces of the other one. I don’t know that. You don’t know that. Who knows? Is Olivia even a person? Was it ever a family show (it wasn’t)? I’m just saying, it’s possible that the artist, H in this case, took inspiration from it as he has said so himself he writes music as a fan of music and this is in his top 10 songs of all time. So in this case specifically, it’s maybe not thaaat crazy to think that If I Could Fly is effectively a Blaze Foley fanpiece? (and that that doesn’t invalidate any interpretation of what IICF meant to H, that that’s what he felt at the time of writing it either) I mean ... look at it... That shit looks *inspired*.

7

Again all these songs are SO GOOD but would you expect anything less? One problem with this one tho, reading it like this all I’m seeing is Through The Dark. But I don’t want to make this post about songs Harry didn’t write

So I made a seperate post about this

Anyways I’m seeing loads of parallels with Harry’s music with this one,

Falling as the feeling on the other side of this song in a way, or let’s put it differently: with Falling describing how Harry is feeling, I understand he would take deep comfort in this song. (crying again)

more parallels:

Sail on silver girl, sail on by 

She: He takes a boat out, imagines just sailing away

All your dreams are on their way 

She: She lives in daydreams with me

Your time has come to shine See how [your dreams] shine 

Lights Up: Shine, step into the light / Shine, I’m not ever going back

If you need a friend (I’m sailing right behind) 

She: And not telling his mates, he wouldn’t know what to say

Also “Oh, if you need a friend, I’m sailing right behind”:

a whole lotta crying strike 3

nautical (bridge over troubled water/ sail on (by)) strike 3

yep it has both it's really damn wet again strike 4

sun/shine (see how they shine/it's time to shine) strike 2

high highs and low lows (down-and-out) strike 3

looking for somewhere to belong strike 6

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving strike 6

8

bzz bzz it's bees and honey.... 

And I can’t not mention my only angel, although that song doesn’t really share a theme

nautical theme strike 4

which makes wet strike 5

"blue" strike 3

LOOKING.FOR.SOMEWHERE.TO.BELONG (sail around / road to freedom) STRIKE 7

9

Pretty convinced he took inspiration from this song writing Sunflower vol 6.

I discuss Flowers in the Window here

but also:

that snowman is melting so wet strike 6 lol

really fucking hopeless and romantic strike 5

growth strike 3

Did he say he’s looking for somewhere to belong yet strike 8

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving strike 7

10

hopeless romantic strike 6

don't want to be alone/ staying/leaving strike 8

Here another anon came in with the realisation that this is basically Just A Little Bit Of Your Heart/Girl Crush/Woman

This parallel is just massively painful:

I’ve got these little things, she’s got you

JALBOYH: Just a little bit of your heart is all I’m asking for

And indeed, just like JALBOYH, Girl Crush, and Woman, this song describes thes singer seeing this other woman with their lover, basically driving them insane, only having these little things, having to share the one you love with her[unaffectionate]. Great, like I needed a 4th song telling me how shitty bearding is.

Ok I’m making stupid parallels with this song, just let me ramble for a bit, I’m going feral, don’t mind me

And I just saw a painful awful why did I see this parallel with Sunflower vol 6:

I’ve got your picture, she’s got you

Sunflower vol 6: I've got your face, Hung up high in the gallery

I’ve got your memory or, has it got me

Sunflower vol 6: Sunflowers, Sometimes, Keep it sweet in your memory

Also She: Lives for the memory, A woman who's just in his head

I’ve got the records, she’s got you

Canyon moon: She plays songs I've never heard

All of these are hurting me. Even the ones I don’t think are meant in this context.

So in conclusion, themes in these songs that Harry also writes about:

“Home” 2/10

Flying 2/10

Sun/shine 2/10

Growth 3/10

When the high’s too high and the low’s too low 3/10

“Blue” 3/10

Crying 3/10

Nautical 4/10

^But putting them together -> wet 6/10

Hopeless truely very hopelessly romantic 6/10

Don’t wanna be alone / staying/leaving 8/10

Looking for somewhere to belong 8/10

Excuse me while I go crying in a corner.

Other posts about this playlist:

Bridge over Troubled Water

Flowers in the window

#smart things with lyrics #<that's my tag for anything about lyrics #welikeparallels #mixtape #IICF #FL #she #this basically broke me #looking for somewhere to belong #not wanting to be alone #i mean wbk but jesus excuse me

[bluewinnerangel]

Since I'm seeing both Papillon/larry parallel posts and this recently released pic of Louis floating around lemme just go back here too:

Louis for House of Solo magazine (2019) / Rami Malek (plays Louis Dega in the remake) at the Papillon premiere (2018)

Don't mind me just linking the posts and digging up a bunch more:

Harry/Louis' Papillon tattoos

Harry x Steve McQueen (who played Henri in the 1978 film)

Papillon x Kill My Mind/Lights Up

Papillon x Eroda

Reoccuring prison imagery

go watch this movie and cry

#welikeparallels #gayvinci code #papillon #i mean does this qualify as a #larry #masterpost