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somereaderinblue · 3 months
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Neodymium glass (also known as Alexandrite glass), changes colour according to different lighting conditions, here you can see it’s quite dramatic.
^^^TRIGUN FIC WRITERS, HEADS UP!!!
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andr0nap · 9 months
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i havent been able to stop thinking about their god awful bed hair...
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museqmeg · 4 months
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Just realized Rosa's Diner is a repurposed toma hatchery from Project SEEDS's bioengineering days
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revenantghost · 4 months
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Wait
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Goddammit. The twins are taller than Wolfwood. CAN WE HAVE NO HEIGHT CONSISTENCY IN THIS FANDOM???
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tradingjack · 2 months
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roadside tongari snack break
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Thinking about the Plants and Vash and how he brings them back from being in their red, dying state and uses his energy to do so--
Considering that it's shown in the last two episodes (the ion cannon being a good example) that Vash is really good with programming knowledge and gave Knives what he needed in order to crash the ships, I bet what Vash is doing is he's reprogramming the Plants to be stable in the desert environment.
Brad and Luida do comment on how they might not like the environment before Vash saves his first Plant (and his eyebrows darken in the process). They may be using more energy than required in order to keep their humans alive, and as a result it burns them out and they can't replenish that energy to keep the ships going.
It could explain why Vash uses up some of his own energy in the process of communicating with them, and why they turn back to blue afterwards. He's using his energy to "input" new code that they need in order to survive, because he's been out in that environment and knows what they need to adapt.
Although, I don't know if he's had to revisit Plants, and as an extension of that, whether or not the programming sticks. That could be something we learn in future episodes, or leave up in the air as a fan theory something-or-other.
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riftclaw · 1 year
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I don’t think it’s possible to name a bigger downgrade than what they did to the tomas in stampede. that is literally just an emu. WHERE IS THE ANTEATER TONGUE.
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justice for the tomas
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the-music-maniac · 1 year
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So this is a random thing, but I was sitting there contemplating the sand steamer episode of Trigun Stampede, thinking about how it acts like a ship, and why exactly did they model it in the shape of a ship, why not give it wheels, etc etc.
And it's very probably not this, just because Legato was still able to drive across the stretches and plus Livio fully fell onto the sand and he didn't sink - BUT I feel like it would be SUPER cool
If the stretches of area the sand steamer travels is fluidized sand:
Maybe NoMan's land has pockets of spaces, oceans??? Where there are gas pockets, a constant stream of air flowing underneath. And tbh I know in the 98 anime there's quick sand - which is sand with water around it, and occurs more often around bodies of water like lakes and rivers etc., In deserts it's possible but not common - which could explain why the sand steamer moves like that, but that explanation doesn't make sense to me, just because if there was an entire ocean of quick sand for the sand steamer to travel across - then why would they need water Plants at all??
Anyways, just a minor thought that I wanted to share.
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TriStamp + Cigarettes:
Okay, so, in Wolfwood's flashback, we see him, as a small child, smoking what appears to be a dried piece of worm:
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Now, it could be a kid just being gross, but he and Livio seem to get actual worthwhile smoke out of it, so it seems more likely to be something he picked up from other down-and-out-adults who were looking for a cheap and accessible alternative to cigarettes. And it seems probable enough that parts of certain worms, smoked or ingested, could have certain physiological or psychotropic effects on humans, who have a long history as a species of finding bonkers ways of getting any kid of buzz.
However: there's no functional agriculture in TriStamp's Noman's Land, so there's no tobacco being grown, unless Plants are somehow producing it.
...So what's in the cigarettes?
Let's look at the boxes of Roberto and Wolfwood's respective packs:
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Roberto's "Wams7 Natural" has what looks like a stylized worm on the box. And Wolfwood's "Skulls" are branded as "organic wams" --
'Wams' is a noun here, and sounds a lot like a bastardization of 'worms.' And 'Natural' and 'organic' could be used to indicate they're not artificially plant-produced -- and therefor not made of tobacco.
Which leads me to the conclusion that these boys are out here the whole time smoking crushed up dried worms in the form of cigarettes.
And that makes any scene where Wolfwood lights up in front of Zazie ten times funnier.
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nanomooselet · 3 months
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Episode Two: The Running Man
It's odd how little gets said about this ep, considering it's the most direct homage the earlier anime adaptation - but maybe that might be why? Since, as I said, this was my entry into the story, to me it felt out of place. It seemed like it was doing all it could to distract from how the previous ep concluded.
With hindsight, I think that's the idea.
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The opening with the radio! I'm so weirdly fond of it. Yeah it's a flashback, but it shows Vash in a private moment without his mask; a glimpse of his secrets. He's not wearing his coat, so you get a look at how broad his shoulders are; he's also handling the tools to maintain his gun skilfully for someone who claims he's not a fighter. As he's contemplating the crash - he was there, obviously, and he has the photo of him, Rem and Nai still - the radio host says without the Plants, our ancestors would have died out long ago. How long ago? Long enough that Vash likely shouldn't still look such a gosh darn pretty boy? Yet it slips by.
(I do not understand the complaints that Stampede had no mystery.)
This is the episode where he's most committed to the bit of being cute but sort of hapless and silly, too, so the contrast is dramatic. I don't think he was actually expecting Meryl and Roberto to clear his name all at once, but I do think he was hoping, I don't know, maybe they'd believe him from the first. But nothing's ever that easy for my boy. I gotta say, Vash, optimism has its limits. Your story is that you're being framed by your previously unknown identical twin brother. You know it's true, I know it's true, but you might have had an easier time with some, I don't know… evidence? It's not surprising the reporters are sceptical.
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Oh god, I'm so sorry, do you want a hug or -
(By the way, this means Knives told everyone it wasn't him, it was a one-armed man.)
He's being melodramatic, but I suspect also more sincere than what comes across - which is the whole reason he exaggerates, of course. (What? No, I'm not talking from experience. I have never, ever done this. Never ever in A MILLION YEARS have I exaggerated to obfuscate my sincerity.) The angle changes to show his face, and it's pretty clear how genuinely exhausted and upset even the thought of Knives makes him. Though it is still pretty funny that Meryl just isn't having it.
Also funny: Meryl versus the Worms, round one. Worms 1, Meryl 0.
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Roberto greeting Tonis is really cute. He's a grump, but he's never an asshole to kids.
Ahhhh Tonis gives Vash his bugs and Vash pats his head and then he moves to take his hand away Tonis grabs it so he'll keep doing it and then when Rosa tells Tonis to leave Vash look dismayed and waves goodbye and it is so cute and IT IS SO SAD.
Because Rosa loves her son, wants him healthy and happy and safe, wants him shielded from the violence of the world and from decisions like pulling a gun on the hero of your town who's been nothing but good to you, better than you deserve - and yet we saw Rosa come to the decision that she would do this last episode. Right about... here. See the way she moves from standing in front of him, almost protectively, to beside him, clearing the way? By the look on her face, she doesn't want to. Vash proved himself yet again afterwards, saved the town without hesitation the moment it was endangered at great risk to himself. He's a good man, a friend, someone she trusts. But it's not him Rosa's thinking of now. It's not even the town. It's Tonis.
I have to say, Roberto doesn't look shocked or concerned. He just wearily sets down his mug and raises his hands, expression unchanged. Meanwhile Meryl's turned into a cartoon.
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Vash understands. He didn't fight back against the MPs. He didn't instigate the duel. It's because of him that this is necessary. That just doesn't mean he's going to make it easy for them.
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Ah, that old Stampede special: the undignified leg-spread landing.
Man the English dub is good, but it's this episode I started to realise how good. It's incredibly funny. "The furious fists of the Nebraska Family challenge you to a duel!" "Felt the fury right there!" "Money! Come back!" "I hope you like pancakes, because you're going to become one!"
There's one translation I'm not sold on, though, and it's Nebraska declaring "Power is justice! Power is truth!" I had the same problem in Persona 5 Royal when I played it and the characters kept going on about how they'll "prove our justice". It sounds so awkward.
From what I can tell, the word they're using translates more clearly to "moral rightness" or "righteousness", and the score title for Stampede renders what Nebraska says better: might is right. He's advocating Social Darwinism, basically. It's the natural order of the world: the strong deserve to flourish, the weak deserve to perish.
Nebraska: I hate cowards like you! This whole planet is fighting for survival! Anyone who runs is bound to die like a sorry loser! But you, Stampede! How dare you?! / You coward! I despise waste-of-life cream puffs like you! You have to fight tooth and nail to survive in this world! If those who can't hack it run away and die like chickens, then so be it! But you? I expected more, Stampede!
Vash: You might be right that I'm too timid. But is that such a terrible thing? Is fighting everything head-on so important? Even if it gets someone killed? / Okay, I may not be the bravest, but what's so terrible about being a little timid? Is fighting head-on always right? It risks lives, and for what?
Nebraska: Weapons… are made for fighting! Do you get it now?! There's no future for those who don't fight! / I might as well, huh? It's what the damn thing's made for! That'll show ya! Any snivelling slug too scared to fight must die!
Vash: Come on, can you back off? I really don't want to fight anyone. / Can you guys cool it for a second? I'm really not in the mood for violence.
Nebraska: That's the attitude that pisses me off! / When the world ends, will it ask if you're in the mood?
It's kinda funny that Nebraska keeps going on about it, though, because he also keeps demanding accommodation for his son's weakness. If he was really committed he'd rely only on himself instead of endangering Gofsef. And yet oddly enough, it's the hypocrisy which saves him, because it's how Rosa realises how much they have in common. He loves Gofsef, just like she loves Tonis, and Vash forgives them both.
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Enjoy the subtle gag of Meryl mirroring her "parents'" expressions, BTW.
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Nabraska judging the townspeople for drinking before 5:00PM as if he didn't just destroy half the place trying to steal their only power source.
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Gofsef being creeped out by Tonis's Worm buddies.
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And Roberto visibly tuning out as Meryl tells him off.
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I think the reason this feels like it's all happening so fast is because this is the place where an episode of the older adaptation would end, leaving some implied time to pass before the next crisis. But this isn't twenty-six self-contained episodes, it's twelve instalments of one story. The running man must continue to run, because it was never humans he was running from.
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And I didn't realise this until now, but the drone in Vash's room? It's looking for him, or his things. It doesn't find either.
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When it doesn't...
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E.G. launches his assault, though the drones had been patrolling since the previous night. Vash was about to leave when he heard the scream from the diner and rushed back to help. And so he stayed long enough for E.G.'s master to arrive in person.
Whatever happened in Jeneora Rock, it seems it was necessary for Vash to witness it, so E.G. had instructions to keep him in place.
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So E.G.'s cyborg enhancements look like a bear trap.
Of course.
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strawberryblackcrown · 10 months
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thinking about Stinky Lakeside on the tristamp map and what the dark areas are.
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like sure it's the Great Sand Ocean but. it's all sand on that planet? are the borders just land that's been claimed vs free-for-all areas? but what separates the stretch in between cities and towns that makes it so different? Is it that those routes are well travelled and teeming with bandits, who dare not venture further lest they run out of supplies too far away from an area where they can restock?
Thoughts are being Thunk, but if there's an actual, confirmed reason on the difference between Colonized Sand and Scavenger's Sand, i'd be interested in knowing
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somereaderinblue · 4 months
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Do you guys think solar energy is used on No Man's Land? I mean, they're on a desert planet with two suns. We already know Dependant Plants aren't an unlimited resource, so who would say no to an alternative energy source? Surely, at least the more advanced cities/settlements with the materials to spare would give it a shot? In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Ship 3 already uses this to keep the ship running.
In Tristamp, we were introduced to Windmill Village & yeah, it failed since winds are hella unpredictable, making it a hit-or-miss alternative.
But again, getting sunlight on a desert planet is as easy as finding sand. It might even be the solution to their reliance on Plants.
DISCLAIMER: I'm no scientist so if radiation or something else is involved to joss this theory of mine, pls feel free to explain it in the comments/tags, I'm genuinely curious to know more.
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andr0nap · 8 months
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ITS POLAR THOMA TIME BABY
with angie and buddy bc i LOVE them sm
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neddea · 4 months
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My fellow Trigun enjoyers, assemble 🙌🏻
If you had to guess, which planet/moon do you think would most likely be Noman’s Land/Gunsmoke?
I’ve been thinking about this for a while (because my latest obsession is astronomy, although it’s also a long running one). In both animes and manga there are two suns, but I’ve been generally looking at exoplanets (planets outside our Solar System) within the habitable zone of their stars, thinking it would be complicated to find a two-star (binary) system that could have any kind of habitability. Yesterday though I found THIS OFFICIAL ART FROM NASA:
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(Look at this, it’s so pretty!)
Turns out, NASA has a whole site that is… kind of an AU in which space travel is viable, and they explain how these planets would look like and what events would be cool to see in them and whatnot. They even have some 3D rendering from the surface of those planets so that you can see how it would look like! When I say this website is cool, I’m underselling it:
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ANYWAY, back to Trigun shenanigans! When I saw the poster for Kepler-16b, I realized that yes, you could actually live on a planet of a binary system! These are called circumbinary planets, and a funny detail when you read the Wikipedia page:
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A quick note on nomenclature: from what I’ve gathered, the name of the star system is followed by a letter or two. If it’s in caps, it’s a star, with A being the primary one and B the secondary; if it’s in lower case, it’s a planet. The planet counter always (?) starts at b, so if there are seven planets in the system called TRAPPIST-1 they would be TRAPPIST-1b, TRAPPIST-1c, TRAPPIST-1d…
Another important note is that there are two types of planetary configuration: If the planet only orbits one star, it’s called S-Type (or non-circumbinary planet); if it orbits both stars, it’s called P-Type (or circumbinary). Hope this didn’t get too confusing!
So I’ve made a list of binary systems that could potentially host human life. Which one do you think would be the best choice?
Kepler-16: the NASA poster one, its planet unofficially called “Tatooine” amongst scientists (good for them). 16b (the planet) is, however, a gas giant like Saturn, so it would be impossible to live there. If it has a moon with an atmosphere though, that could host life! And we’d get to see in the sky two stars and one bigass planet covering a good chunk of it. Pretty neat 🪐
Kepler-35: The planet discovered here is not within the habitable zone, but there is a high chance there might be other rocky planets in it. We can just make it up however we want it to be ✨
Kepler-38: Same as 35, but also the mass of the planet is unknown (I think? Wikipedia says one thing and NASA another, so idk)
Kepler-47: It has 3 planets, which is very cool 🪐🪐🪐 The second one, 47c, is within the habitable zone, but it would be the same case as 16b (living on a moon). The other two planets would also be perfectly visible, I think.
PH1/Kepler-64: First circumbinary planet found in a quadruple (FOUR STARTS ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️) system, and the discovery was made by citizens! How cool is that!? The planet orbits two of them, but the other system is fairly near and probably influences the planet?. They’re probably perfectly visible from the surface.
ROXs 42: Not much known about the planet, but it orbits the secondary star and has an atmosphere💫 That’s because it’s a gas giant, so it’s not habitable and we’d have to use a moon. Would be cool to see the stars wandering the sky on different paths though, since it’s the only S-Type system in this list!
Kepler-453: I’ve gotten confusing info about the habitability zone on this system, but we know that there’s a gas giant half the size of Jupiter 🤔
Kepler-1647: Same as Kepler-16 and 47. Apparently the system would be capable of sustaining an Earth-sized moon! 🌑
A quick sketch of how each of them would look like:
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revenantghost · 1 year
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The fact that they chose to make Vash love salmon sandwiches on a desert planet only naturally inhabited by worms is the best gag none of the characters call attention to
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aritimena · 4 months
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