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cora-illus · 1 year
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Some Ninth House facepaint lore/design headcanons I drew up while working on my last piece :]
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lockedtombbrainworms · 3 months
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TLT characters and smoking: Judith: got peer-pressured into it as a teenager because someone told her Coronabeth and/or Marta would think it was cool. Nearly passed out coughing and has never been willingly within six feet of a cigarette since Marta: Only smokes after she fucks. Which is a lot, by the way. Coronabeth: No particular interest in smoking, but would 1000% take it up if she thought it would make her more interesting to someone. May in fact do that now that Ianthe smokes. Ianthe: Canonically does smoke as of the end of NTN. Probably wasn't especially interested beforehand, especially given her dodgy necromancer lungs, but once she was a lyctor the psychosexual drama of the mithraeum was always gonna give her some sort of vice Naberius: no interest whatsoever, he's an athlete and he's too concerned about his looks and the potential for premature ageing. Not that it would matter, as Ianthe would just fix him, but he doesn't strike me as the type. Would definitely vape though, and let's be real, if any house has vapes, it's the third. Isaac: Teenage rebellion phase might include smoking, might even include weed. The Fifth would be horrified by this. Jeannemary: Probably more likely to smoke than Isaac as part of the aforementioned teenage rebellion phase, if I'm honest. Abigail: nope, she'd be too aware that it's bad for you to enjoy it. I can see her enjoying edibles though, it feels like they might help with certain kinds of spirit magic. Magnus: Cigars. Look at the guy. Palamedes: absolutely the fuck not, although he did at least pick up the muscle memory for it during The Unwanted Guest shenanigans. Cam: Equally absolutely the fuck not. Paul: Until I read TUG, I'd have said just as much of a no as with Cam and Pal, but now I know Palamedes went into that whole thing with Ianthe's smoking habit rubbed off on him, there's an outside chance they'll share one with Pyrrha Dulcinea: Would never be allowed to smoke, which I suspect would mean she'd very much want to given the "sick of roses and horny for revenge" thing. She should've been chuffing fat darts every minute we saw her in the river bubble. Maybe she was, just not around Harrow. Protesilaus: Doesn't strike me as the sort, although we don't see much of him. Silas: no, he's a weird sixteen-year-old temperance freak and also a frail necromancer Colum: Definitely smokes. Rolls his own. May not even bother with filters given how he knows the siphoning is fucking him up faster than the cigs ever could. Gideon Nav: Might try it to impress girls, but is probably too aware of the possibility of it messing up her fitness, which she also uses to try to impress girls. Harrow: Nah. Just being around cigarette smoke would overstimulate her.
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abhorsenkatiel · 5 months
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I always had what I considered to be a benign, meaningless headcanon that Harrow looked a lot like her mother, but then one day I realized the implications would be that as she grows up Harrow would have to endure watching her face become more and more similar to that of her mother's frozen corpse. Anyway, I still have that headcanon, it's just less benign now.
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eemolu · 2 months
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gideon nav would keep the cleanest house of all time. she’d love to get on rubber gloves and scrub the fuck out of her shower!!!!!! meanwhile harrowhark “dead in a bone” nonagesimus would let untold species of mold grow in her fridge. i am right about this for sure.
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liesmyth · 24 days
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Do you think John brought back his friends without their memories, or for a short time tried to let them keep them before his guilt and paranoia of their judgement won out and then wiped them without warning
I contain multitudes and multiple quantum states so both of these options are true at once. TO ME. luckily we'll never find out so I don't have to decide one way or the other
realistically, I think he mindwiped them right away, because the vibe in HtN act 5 makes me think that this is really the first time John experiences betrayal from his lyctors / the first time they've openly doubted him. I think he would not find it as easy to play happy families if he had mindwiped them before. They wouldn't know, but John would.
having said all that. this fic where John brings back the pre-resurrection gang with their memories intact has rewired my fucking brain and I think about it no stop, and it's become a fundamental part of my headcanons.
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tldr: por que no los dos?
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field-s-of-flowers · 4 months
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[ID: A reply on a post from the original poster, @/katakaluptastrophy, reading “@/sunshine-fruit-of-the-vine Ooh, your point in the tags about Corona’s comment to Judith is really interesting! Though I suppose it could also be interpreted as the Second being the ones doing the business contracts? Also please tell me more about your political headcanons…” /End ID.]
@katakaluptastrophy this is old but you absolutely do not have to ask me twice oh my god. This is where I reveal exactly how much of a history dork I am so be warned. I have also indicated Vibes in case that is helpful to anybody
So the common denominator among the Houses (as well as among societies as a whole, I spent like half a unit in my sociology class on this last year) is that there’s always a small upper class/nobility/etc and the population gets larger as you go down the ladder. That manifests in different ways within the different Houses, but it’s the same principle: The rich are few, and the poor are many.
That being said…
SECOND: The military leaders of the Nine, the Second are the ones who do the actual conquering of planets. However, Corona’s comment about how “as a Second, [Judith] should be willing to sell her birthright for economics” suggests they might not be getting their share of the profits. A huge portion of the Second lives in poverty, especially the capital city of Trentham, and pretty much the only way to escape it is to join the Cohort. The wealthy and powerful (generals, admirals and war heroes) vehemently deny there ever being a problem. For vibes, think New York City or Chicago but A Little Worse.
THIRD: The economic center of the Nine, the Third is a trade powerhouse and a hub for merchants and artisans. But they also export something a little less palatable: Propaganda for the Empire. The capital, Ida, is an enormous massive palace very similar to Versailles, where the best of the best workers (and the friends of the royal family) are privileged to live. Unlike the Second, where hard work actually can bring you up in the world, success in Ida comes out of bribes, flattery and sex. For vibes, think Paris but even less subtle, and crazy on the amethysts.
FOURTH: Supposedly a backup to the Second. In actuality, the lack of any real leadership has left the small and vulnerable population (veterans, the sick and disabled) to the mercy of the Fourth’s criminal underbelly. The capital city of Tisis is functionally a ghost town, mostly full of impotent, sheltered nobles and extensions of the mafia collecting bribes, and the other cities aren’t much better. For vibes, think Piltover (I don’t play league of legends but I LOVE Arcane), but the upper city is way more depressing and abandoned and the whole thing has kind of an ancient Roman feel as well.
FIFTH: The administration of the Nine, the Fifth works closely with the Emperor himself to keep the internal workings of His Empire running smoothly. Koniortos Court is a complex and many-armed bureaucracy, managed by its Lords or Ladies (and Seneschals, who do most of the actual diplomacy) like clockwork. It lies nestled in the capital of Rhax, where the majority of the Fifth’s population lives and works. There are frequent rebellions, but they’re snuffed out with alarming ease. For vibes, think combination of Victorian London and the city from Ulysses Dies At Dawn.
SIXTH: Less of its own independent state and more of the Emperor’s House of Wisdom, the Sixth House is the center of learning in the Nine Houses. Almost all the Houses send the best of their best to study there, so there’s a lot of people, but its native population is incredibly small- the size of a single city on the Third. Most of the Sixth is a single huge, labyrinthine library, surrounded by dormitories and a few spaceship ports for trade with the Seventh. Rank is decided not by birth, but by ability and age (in theory, anyway; in practice, they’ve strayed a bit from Cassiopeia’s vision). It’s still very communal, and everyone considers each other family on some level. For vibes, think a walled city combined with a super old university.
SEVENTH: The Seventh is responsible for most of the beautiful things made in the Empire. They export and import a lot of art, from pottery to poetry, and are considered superior craftsmen to the Third (which is why Ianthe thinks so poorly of their cloud formation poems). Outside this, they’re largely self-sufficient and very insular, doing their own farming making regular contact with only the Sixth. The lower classes are mostly farmers, while the aristocracy is just a few families, which is how Heptanary cancer happened. For vibes, think the romanticized version of the antebellum South from old books that like to gloss over the slavery thing, but a little bit sickly and weird-looking.
EIGHTH: The religious center of the Nine, the Eighth is in control of the worship of the Emperor and his Saints, as well as the Nine’s religious traditions. They’re also responsible for a chunk of Imperial propaganda- less than the Third, though, and directed less to the shepherd worlds and more within the Nine Houses. They live similarly to the Ninth House, with religious decadence, everyday asceticism and very little social mobility. The population of the Eighth House is actually very diverse, full of pilgrims from all over the Empire. For vibes, think medieval Italy but it’s all minimalist white and it ruins the whole thing.
NINTH: We know about the Ninth. We got like ten chapters about the Ninth. For vibes, think the Ninth.
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silence-of-autumn42 · 11 months
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A Locked Tomb Headcacon: I feel like Gideon has to be a necromancer. She's the daughter of the King Of Necromancers. Her blood is magical enough that it passes for Jod's to be able to unlock the Tomb. She survived the baby genocide curse. She survived the Ninth House when everyone hated her. Gideon is not merely a cavalier, she's a necromancer as well.
So why does she never do any necromancy? Well, largely because she hasn't been taught. This is, I admit, entirely headcanon, but when the Ninth House tests for necromancy, they use bones. Gideon does not have any talent for bone magic. So, when she was unable to manipulate the bone matter she was presented with as a child, she was assumed to not be a necromancer. Instead, I think that Gideon's potential necromantic skills lie in the fields of psychometry and soul magic. Gideon is weirdly receptive to the age and history of things. I believe that's because she's subconsciously picking up on the psychometric traces attached to the objects and places she interacts with. As for the soul magic, she managed to preserve her identity as a soul while existing within Harrow's Lyctoral self. Certainly, she was helped by the fact Harrow mutilated her own brain to remove memories of Gideon so her magic wouldn't target her, but Gideon was still surpressed within Harrow's mind, and still retained her identity after nine months of being a disembodied soul.
So why would Gideon suck at bone magic? Bone magic is, by my understanding, primarily about manipulating dead matter, infused with thanergy. You can do it with living bone, but it's a lot harder. Gideon is weirdly hard to kill. She survived the genocide magic, she's pretty damn durable. Her life is incredibly strongly tied to her body. She's not immortal, like her father, but because it's so hard to kill her, she can't understand what dead matter feels like, necromantically. She literally can't see it. It's kind of like the necromantic equivalent of being colourblind. She just literally cannot see the differences between dead matter, and matter that was never alive. Bone might as well be stone to her. Since she can't feel the death in organic matter, she can't figure out how to manipulate it.
Now, I've not read Nona the Ninth yet, I've not been able to get to my local library for a while, and they didn't have it when I was last there, and I don't have the money to buy books at the moment. So if anything in Nona contradicts this, I do not know about it. I know Kiriona is a thing, and she has a weird body there, but I don't know a lot of the details beyond that. It's very possible that there's something there which explains why she wouldn't be a necromancer that I'm simply not aware of. But, I think this is a fun idea.
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tanis-zed · 4 months
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Ianthe seems like the kinda bitch who really wants to come off as like, hardcore kinky, and maybe the THINKS she is. But like, the kinkiest she gets is like, fuzzy handcuffs. A bindfold. A few weak playful spanks. She’s vanilla as shit is what I’m saying.
Harrow, on the other hand, THINKS she’s totally vanilla, but her idea of vanilla includes things like bone bondage, biting until someone bleeds, and vigorous verbal degradation, and that’s the FOREPLAY! Harrow fucks nasty and weird, but thinks she’s maybe a little spicy, but just a little.
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homeofwyrm · 6 days
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Post-work sketches
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cora-illus · 1 year
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Ninth House skull symbolism time ok
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[Image Description: 10 headshots of Harrow Nonagesimus wearing the various black and white skull paints described in this post, with their names written above each head. End ID]
I wanted to expand on my headcanons for purposes + symbolism of the Ninth’s facepaint because the books don’t give much about them and its v intriguing to me. These are all taken from whatever is mentioned in the books + expanded on based on my interpretation of the character and context involved.
* : A mask with no canon name, the name listed is a headcanon/theory
[Image Description for all images following: A title card with the mask’s name as listed, and one side, three-quarter and front-facing headshot. All masks will be described following it’s title. End ID.] I wish there was an easier way to do this but text posts don’t allow alt text, and image posts don’t allow images between text.
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Black Vestige's Mask*
A simply stylized skull, with the hollow of the cheeks, temples and eye recess blacked out, a blotch with two upright marks for the nose, and three vertical lines from nose to chin to represent teeth. The upper lip is completely coloured.
Gideon's effect on Canaan, seen on the GtN cover
This mask announces loyalty and service to the tomb, in a way that is practical and visually bold
The standard mask acceptable for any occasion, this mask is the most common among pilgrims and lower to mid echelon of the Ninth.
Also popular with cavaliers due to it's practical simplicity and stoic appearance.
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Vestige's Devotion*
A more complex stylized skull, with thin lines around the forehard, chin and nose giving a clearer form to the skull. The eyes, temple and side of the cheekbones are blacked out, as is the cheek where (on a skull) there is a hollow between teeth and mandible/cheekbones. Teeth are more carefully painted on, and the upper lip is fully coloured.
Harrow's main effect, seen on the HtN cover
Also worn by Crux
A more detailed take on the Black Vestige's Mask, requiring more care and patience to paint.
Symbolises an enthused acceptance of duty, and a desire to display this publicly
Among regular Niners often used for ceremonies, holy days and important prayer.
For the more intense of the devout, this may be worn more frequently to show deeper devotion to their religion.
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Jawless Skull 
A plain-looking skull, with no mandible - the temples, cheek hollows and entire jaw is blacked out. The eyes and nose are also blacked out, and individual teeth are painted on the upper lip.
Worn by Ortus upon learning of the summons in HtN
The oldest skull style.
A slightly more devoted/involved paint than the Black Vestige's Mask, with not much more variation in symbolism other than more strongly reflecting the Ninth House sigil.
May also be worn as an alternative to a Black Vestige's Mask.
Often worn by those who feel that they have something to prove, those who have thoughts/opinions they know would be better left unsaid, or who have taken a vow of silence.
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The Anchorite Dying
Two styles: The first, using the Black Vestige’s Mask as a base, but with triangular gashes across where the temples becomes the forehead. The left side appears crushed and fractured, with two teeth appearing to sink into the black of the cheek hollow. The second, also using the Vestige’s Mask as a base, is more symmetrical - fractured cheekbones and a short line down the cheek from each eye. There is a blacked-out crack on the left of the forehead and a crack along the bridge of the nose.
Worn by Ortus arriving to Canaan in HtN
A melancholy acknowledgement of duty to the tomb - worn for one of two reasons:
when experiencing doubt or hesitation in one’s faith, this mask is worn to confess this and show a desire to overcome such internal conflict.
Or, to show the wearer deeply understands and accepts the solemnity and finality of the life of a Black Vestige.
Pilgrims who commit to life on the Ninth wear this mask for their full first year as a member of the House, and many of the most devout pilgrims-turned-House members maintain The Anchorite Dying after this period
Either style can be worn for either purpose and has no reflection on the wearer’s intent
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The Priestess Crushed Beneath New Laid Rock
A painted skull of a face that has been crushed, revealing the sinus cavities above the brow bone, in the cheeks and up the nose. The temples, eyes, cheeks and area around the mouth and chin are fully coloured, with white squares along the bottom lip and top of the chin for sunken teeth. It is intended to be quite gruesome and unpleasant to look at.
Worn by Harrow to dinner on the Mithraeum
The ultimate honour to Anastasia, this mask is representative of a life given to the tomb either through sacrifice or duty.
Its gruesome appearance is meant to cleanse the wearer of any heresy or doubt in their duty.
Most frequently worn during rite of passage ceremonies - whether to anoint pilgrims to the Ninth's ranks or to ordain new priesthoods - or celebrate a nun's sacrificial death for the tomb. 
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The Chain
A mask significantly more intricate than the Vestige’s Devotion - a more complex twist of lines around the forehead, cheeks and mouth, emulating an anatomical sketch of the form of a skull. These lines meet to make two small patches of black paint in the hollow between teeth and cheeks/mandible, and teeth painted intricately on the lips. Only the eyelids are blacked out, and the rest of the eye socket is outlined with thin black lines. The beginning of the spine is painted in white, against a black background, on the throat.
Worn by Harrow to the Ball AU in HtN
An incredibly intricate, involved mask. Mastering it shows the deepest devotion to the tomb and skull painting as an art form.
Symbolizes a life committed to the tomb, so much so that one is willing to sit for hundreds of hours to imitate even a fraction of a construct's complex beauty.
Not seen often in past generations, despite not being restricted to any event or class.
This mask is worn to show complete, utter devotion to the Tomb and respect to Anastasia. Although still taught in scriptures, few ever don this skull
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The Inglorious Mask
Painted in blood on a bare face, this is a rough, rushed attempt to paint a Black Vestige’s Mask. The cheeks are painted by dragging hands coated in blood along the sides of the face, the lips and nose wiped with bloody fingers, and the eyes and temples rubbed with the bloody heel of a palm.
Worn by Harrow at the beginning of HtN
Represents a desperate, pathetic attempt to cling to faith in times of extreme hardship.
A vestige's paint is their most material connection to their faith. If they have nothing they have their masks, so they must do everything in their power to hold true to it.
Though better than a bare face, it is still immensely embarrassing and shameful to be seen like this. 
Reserved for an absolute last resort, if a devotee can do literally anything better than this it is considered heresy to not do so.
Veils are frequently included in this mask to prevent any from having to witness it.
Now a couple with less to bounce off of, just vague descriptions in the books I’ve taken + run with
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Mandible That Prays For The Tomb*
A face painted white, with only the gap between upper and lower jaw painted in black, on the cheeks. There are five small lines on the upper lip that imitate teeth.
Worn by Matthias Nonius, scarified into Ortus' face in HtN
Aiglamene wears a more decorative variant of this mask
Symbolises a fealty that inspires protective instinct.
Highlighting the jaw, this mask is worn by those devoted to their prayer and verbal worship, and an honoured commitment to cavalier-hood in the name of serving the Tomb.
Another practical mask preferred by cavaliers, especially those who serve/d in the Cohort.
Having a majority of their face painted white protects the wearer from harmful sun rays that their skin is unaccustomed to, having grown up underground on the Ninth.
This mask allows them to show their fealty boldly while also serving a very practical purpose
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Egregious Visage*
Very minimal, a face painted white with only the eye sockets, nose and upper lip fully painted black. There is a simple curving line on either cheek, a hint of a skull’s cheekbones.
A messier version is unintentionally worn by a young Gideon trying to wear as little paint as possible
This skull is considered the bare minimum of face paints on the Ninth - it represents a person's mortification or religious doubt.
While still being acceptable as a face covering, it is viewed with judgement due to these connotations
Worn by those undergoing punishment or social rejection, or those who are preparing the leave the faith.
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acoraxia · 3 months
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red sons be upon ye
(don’t tag as chimerashipping)
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sexybread-png · 1 year
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locked tomb doodle i did w abisalli's emotion challenge
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worm-on-the-moss · 8 months
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Missing them! Very much!
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liesmyth · 9 days
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I'm always thinking about how G— was an engineer. A damn good one: the sole engineer of the cryo project, good enough that of all the ten billion, the FTL project chose him to inspect their work, back when the project was still a pipe dream. He was a man from an immigrant family in an underprivileged area who became arguably the world's best engineer, which is impressive in its own right, but it gets me thinking... Pre-Resurrection, John says they can't grow food on Mars (and for all John's unreliability, that's pretty believable, given that the high perchlorate concentration in Martian soil is one of the big obstacles to carrying out a sustained Mars mission), and as silly as this might sound, the engineer and scientist divide is real, and of all the nerds that John resurrected, I can't imagine it was the artist or the contract lawyer or the medical and chemistry experts that made the Mars installation viable. Gideon made a House out of it, and one that accepts recruits from across the Dominican system! "Saint of Duty" is said to fit him, evident in his loyalty and commitment to the Cohort and fighting the Resurrection Beasts, but I have to wonder, how much of that was his commitment to making shit work? I can't shake the image of a couple million people awaking to a ruined world, and someone had to get the other Houses settled, figure out spacecraft and space habitats using what little supplies they have left, and what better candidate for that than the man who canonically engineered spacecraft twice?
ANON I love this so much. You're SO right, and you put into words something about G1deon and John's shared background that I've tried to articulate for a while. In the very first chapter, John says, "It wasn’t that they didn’t have the money for a bigger team; we were simply the only ones capable of what they were asking."
This was an incredibly elite team. They were a brilliant bunch of hyperspecialised nerds. And, like, among John's squad, A- and M- and everyone else started out as colleagues — very smart people he probably met in academic circles, where being smart was kind of a prerequisite. It was their research that brought them together to begin with.
G1deon, though! He was John's friend growing up. John knew his grandparents. They spotted each other spare changes for snacks!! Then John went on to Dilworth, then to university and then overseas, and G1deon had his own (probably different) academic path, and maybe they only stayed vaguely in touch, but when it was time to look for an engineer that could help them build spaceships constructed to provide life support to the whole of humanity for centuries — and G1deon was the guy for that.
The fact that two boys from similar underprivileged backgrounds individually made huge breakthroughs in their chosen fields, and got to work together on a project that was meant to save the world... I bet at the time it felt like a miraculous coincidence. I think they thought, if they'd made it that far, that they could do anything.
(yet another layer to the tragedy of what happened etc etc. G1deon torn between John and P—. John stopping G1deon's heart)
Thank you so much for all your thoughts about the Mars space installation, also — I wonder how long there was between Mars becoming the Second House (founded by G1deon! he and Pyrrha did the bulk of the work!) and the institution of the Third House, which doesn't have a named founder and might very well have been a shared project built on the blueprint of what G1deon set up. "the man who canonically engineered spacecraft twice" — my god I love this so much. It's G1deon emo hours today
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How far does the prophecy from The Lightning Thief stretch across the Percy Jackson and The Olympians series? Spoilers Ahead!
"You shall go west and face the god who has turned."
1. In The Lightning Thief, Percy, alongside his friends Annabeth and Grover, travels from New York to Los Angeles to retrieve his mother, Sally, from the underworld and confront the god who stole Zeus's lightning bolt.
2. In The Lightning Thief, Percy, Annabeth, and Grover discover Ares is in alliance with a revolt to free Kronos. Percy fights Ares and successfully secures Zeus's lightning bolt.
"You shall find what was stolen and see it safely returned."
1. In The Lightning Thief, Percy returns Zeus's lightning bolt. Conversely, Hades, who kidnapped Sally, returns her home.
2. In The Sea of Monsters, Polyphemus the Cyclops is stated to have stolen the Golden Fleece to improve the nature of his Island and lure Satyrs to their death. Conversely, Luke Castellan and his crew are stated to try and steal the Golden Fleece to quicken Kronos's resurrection.
3. In The Titan's Curse, Atlas holds Annabeth and Artemis hostage, and Percy, alongside his quest partners Grover, Thalia, Bianca, and Zoe, travels west and rescues them.
"You shall be betrayed by one who calls you friend."
1. In The Lightning Thief, Luke lures Percy into the woods, reveals he stole the lightning bolt and that he's working with Kronos to bring about the downfall of Olympus. In doing so, Luke, Percy's former friend, tries to hurt him and, inadvertently, sets Percy's story in motion.
2. In The Battle of the Labyrinth, Percy, Annabeth, Nico, and Rachel discover that Luke allows Kronos to use his body as a vessel to bring about the downfall of Olympus.
"And you shall fail to save what matters most in the end."
1. In The Lightning Thief, Percy fails to retrieve his mother from the underworld. Thus, his initial motivation for going on the quest remains unfulfilled.
2. In The Lightning Thief, Percy cannot convince Luke that bringing about the rise of Kronos is not an efficient way to dismantle a neglectful system between the Gods and demigods. This conversation is the catalyst for the Percy Jackson and the Olympians series.
3. In The Last Olympian, Percy hands Luke the knife. Luke stabs himself in his Achilles Spot, stopping Kronos from rising, and preserving Olympus. It took the death of a hero fallen from grace to dismantle a neglectful system. From the beginning, Luke was destined to be beyond saving.
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silence-of-autumn42 · 9 months
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Despite being a trans woman, who loves having trans rep characters in media, I'm not actually a fan of the trans Coronabeth headcanon, for two reasons. The first is because a lot of the time, the discussion of the idea boils down to "what if...attractive woman...actually trans?! Shock! Waow!". The second reason is that the rest of the time, it either ends up someone projecting onto the character, because they relate to her or just feel like it (which is fine, just not my personal preference for the character, I lean more Harrow with that line of thinking, honestly), or they claim that there's "evidence", which ultimately ends up being crap like "she's tall and has muscles and wears a lot of makeup, so clearly must have a 'male' body", or "she changed her name to fit a new identity, which is a trans! thing", as though changing a name isn't already an established trope.
I would love it if Coronabeth was actually revealed as trans in Alecto. But at the moment, at least, a lot of the discussion I've seen about her status as a potentially trans character is based either on stereotypes or purely on subversion of expectation grounds.
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