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elorawrites · 1 year
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this new episode has me crying into my pillow..
seeing marlene and anna, thinking that riley and ellie never got the chance to grow up together like they did? sobbing. watching ashley johnson play the mother of a character she helped bring to life as a way of closing her own chapter of being ellie? i am on life support. joel giving ellie the innuendo that she is the reason why his wounds are finally healing after losing himself? i simply cannot deal.
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imaginary98 · 1 year
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The last of us season final Jesus christ 😳
The attention to detail in this episode to the game is just ridiculously incredible 😫 it's just too fucking good I can't handle the emotional trauma I'm feeling right now I'm guna bed 😭
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perplexedhare · 1 year
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Since the show put this eternal debate about the validity of Joel's decision back on track, I wanted to talk about it and explain why Joel was right. Note that I'm not talking about Joel's reasons so don't tell me "yes, but Joel wasn't thinking about that so...", that's not the issue. The issue is his decision in itself.
Btw, I specify here that I talk about the show but considering its fidelity to the games, my arguments also work concerning them.
So... let's take a look at Ellie. Firstly, she was unconscious at the time. There's just no way to justify that. Marlene or the fans who defend the Fireflies can speculate all they want about what Ellie would have wanted, the truth is that we fucking don't know. We know for sure that she wanted to help produce a cure, but at the time, no one knew that this would require opening her head and killing her.
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If Marlene was so sure of what she's claiming here, she would have woken up Ellie to give her the choice. But she didn't because she knows it's bullshit she's saying to convince both Joel and herself.
I'm sure I'll be objected that in TLOU 2, Ellie blamed Joel for preventing her from dying on the operating table and that given the fidelity of the series to the games, this will surely be the case in the next season. Yeah but that's irrelevant too, it's not the same Ellie. In a few years, especially during adolescence, we change a lot.
Then, since we're talking about Ellie's consent, I would like to remind you that regardless of whether she was conscious or not, she's a 14 year old girl. I have the impression that too many people tend to forget that, no one at that age can make the decision to sacrifice their life with full knowledge of what they're giving up and with the maturity to think about it properly. Especially when the 14 year old girl in question is victim of survivor's guilt after having seen several of her close ones die.
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For those who have trouble visualizing what I'm saying, I'll make an analogy : If an adult slept with a 14 year old and the latter justified herself to you by saying that she was consenting and that it was her choice, would you find this relevant ? Of course not, because almost everyone knows that there are decisions that children/teenagers can't consent to !
Now that was just about Ellie, but what about the cure ? Because in spite of all the utilitarian debates about whether or not Ellie needs to be killed for the greater good, we're forgetting one essential point : What proves that the Fireflies could have made a cure ? Because whether it's in the games or in the show, there's no real evidence of that. Even the Fireflies don't know anything about it, Marlene and the others directly assume that they will be able to create a vaccine from Ellie's Cordyceps even though they barely had time to do some tests on her while she was unconscious.
Hey you know what ? Even Marlene implicitly admits that they don't know about it : "Our doctor… he thinks that the Cordyceps in Ellie has grown with her since birth (…) He thinks it could be a cure, Joel."
They literally had no plan or certainties, they didn't even take the time to conduct any in-depth study of Ellie, of her blood for example to find a way to produce a vaccine without killing her. They just chose the easiest solution out of impulsivity without worrying for a single minute about the opinion and safety of the concerned one.
Whether it was for the greater good or not, all of Marlene's justifications are based on biased assumptions and intellectual dishonesty. Joel hurt many people and was wrong about a lot of things but certainly not about stopping reckless morons from butchering his 14 year old daughter.
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emilylikes · 1 year
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I'm sorry but Joel shooting that doctor was so funny to me.
Joel: Unhook her
Doctor: I won't let you take her (brings scapel to gun fight)
Joel: (Just fucking shoots him in the head) Okay you unhook her
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mikewheely · 1 year
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Okay so, if you are reading this, be patient because I am about to pour my heart out because I might have just found out one of my favourite tropes used in The Last of Us!! And I had already noticed that there was something about this scene, but when I compared it to what happened in the game, it just hit me way harder.
So, I was watching this scene in the game, and the Firefly guy who escorts Joel out there in the game, tells him where Ellie is, "Top floor. The far end," before dying as Joel had already shot him twice. It makes sense, because you are playing as Joel and in order to save her, you need to have some information about where you should be going. Right.
But here in the show, the guy never gives him that information. And now it is up to Joel to find out where the hell she is in this huge hospital. Fine. Then in the game, again, as you are playing as Joel, you have to face obstacles, and fight for your own survival first, in order to save Ellie. So there is a sense of dread, which changes vastly in the show. You see Joel, being so confident and just killing anyone who comes in his way. I think the reduced sound of the gunshots and people screaming and the intense music playing depicts what is going on inside his head, which is, nothing. It is blank. Because in the podcast, they have said that Joel can dissociate himself when he gets into a situation like this, and he is calm when everyone around him is losing their minds.
You see a confidence in Joel's face, a determination, that no matter what he is going to save Ellie, his daughter, his new-found purpose. He knows he isn't going to get killed, he has this gut feeling that he would obviously be able to save her. So he kills anyone he sees with a weapon, it does not matter if they are surrendering themselves, because, "God help any motherfucker who stands in our way," right?
So he is going forward, not knowing where she is exactly, and he is killing everyone, absolutely cold-blooded. Now when he finally reaches the floor, without knowing that she is there, he spots the pediatric surgery ward. Sure, he sees that. So that is a good point to guess she might be there. But it is the way this scene is filmed and it is the expression on his face that makes me think that it is one of my favourite tropes??!
He gets in, he sees that one door, and his eyes are fixed on that door. It is one loooong ward, there are so many rooms. He does not even turn his head around to see other places. He sees that door, and he is just walking towards it, like he knows, he knows she is there. He is almost in a trance. He can sense Ellie's presence inside that room. It is like their souls are connected. And it just somehow makes their relationship way deeper than it already was.
Now, I don't know if that was the intention behind it. But the way the information was not shared to him about where she is, and he just went there, he did not struggle to think where she could be, he just kept going, and his eyes were fixed on that door, and he did not look in any other room in that long ward, it just makes me think, that it could be.
My heart cannot handle this. I love this trope. Where a character can just somehow sense another's presence without seeing or hearing them, because they love each other so much.
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I know that Joel said that him being deaf in his right ear is from gunshots and everything, but after tonight's episode, I noticed that the scar from the "missed shot" is on the right side of his head. It's definitely possible that he lost his hearing from his gun going off so often, but what if Joel actually lost his hearing from that one missed shot when he tried to shoot himself? I am not okay, somebody please take tlou away from me.
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fishfission · 1 year
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they mean everything to me.
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djarinslover · 1 year
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Also think it’s funny Marlene was like “yeah I’m gonna tell Joel the truth about what we’re doing with Ellie. He won’t care, he’s dead inside and knows this is just a mission.” Well they fucked around and found out you don’t get between Joel and his child.
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jadeinretrogrde · 1 year
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when people ask me how I'm doing today after the season finale of the last of us:
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lilys-hazel-eyes · 1 year
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no I absolutely did not watch 1.5 seasons of the mandalorian in the past *checks watch* 4 days why do you ask
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mjsthebsblog · 1 year
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On a side note, please send prayers to everyone that doesn’t know what’s gonna happen in tlou season 2 because y’all aren’t even remotely ready 👀
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hufflepuff-belle · 1 year
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I have been processing The Last of Us finale for the last few days. You know what the most frustrating part of all of it is for me?
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Marlene knows how dangerous her journey was. She knows how much harder it must have been for Joel and Ellie. She nearly died and she lost men along the way, but somehow here are Joel and Ellie unharmed. She looks at them and knows that Tess did not make it. Joel and Ellie have made this entire journey together. Joel has protected Ellie this entire time because as anyone can see based on the way he shields her she is no longer just his cargo. Anyone can see that Joel loves Ellie. Their relationship has changed into a parental one. Ellie is no longer Joel’s means to end and she is his future. Marlene knowing how tough Joel is and how dangerous he can be cannot fathom this change in him. She cannot fathom how deeply Joel has come to love Ellie. So she tells him the truth. Then seeing his rage she arms him and sends him away with just two men. If Marlene was thinking she would have ended Joel before telling him. But Marlene cannot fathom that this a loss Joel would not recover from. Marlene does not know Joel as a father. She does not know the lengths he would truly go to to protect his baby girl.
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She sends him out basically free and is suprised when he attacks. She is surprised that he destroys her and her entire operation for the cargo. She has already written Ellie off. The moment she walked into that room and saw her friend was doomed Ellie became cargo to her. To Marlene Ellie stayed cargo. She never became more than a means to the end no matter the cost. Marlene who looked at this baby girl only saw someone she needed to sacrifice. Joel grew to see someone he would sacrifice the entire world for. Joel cannot let Marlene survive to come after them again. He needs to shield Ellie from anyone and anything that wants to hurt her. And that includes Marlene. Marlene who was supposed to protect her. Marlene who was supposed to love her. Marlene who never stopped seeing Ellie as cargo as the reason her friend could not defend herself. Marlene who saw Ellie as doomed the moment she laid eyes on her. 
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stiles-wilkolak · 1 year
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Oh Joel and Ellie you sweet damaged angels. Holding eachother together best you can.
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TLOU 1x09: One Of The Most Episodes Of All Time
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yncorn · 1 year
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I’m so excited for the finale!
[Image ID: A digital re-drawing of Joel and Ellie from The Last Of Us (the HBO show) episode 9 promo pic. Both of them are shown from the waist up, standing behind a small wall with bushes, looking in front. He’s wearing a dark shirt, backpack and his rifle showing behind him and she’s wearing a red shirt and a backpack. End ID.]
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voidsdivine · 1 year
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“I’m just mad he lied to Ellie.” My brother in Christ she’s fourteen.
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