#this was also some fun eith perspective <3

[bisluthq]

After taylor has explicitly said she is straight once and said ally like 3+ times it's quote fair for "hetlors" to exist. Because it's just respecting her own sexuality that SHE claimed. Hetlor are literally just normal here. I would kinda agree eith you if it was someone who never talked about sexuality then "het truthering it" is the same as truthering they're lgbt.

So I don’t like this topic in general because it goes around in circles and it’s REALLY boring for me like mind numbingly so. It’s just not that interesting. But I’m actually gonna answer this on full lol like for the record.

Truthering any sexuality is wack lmao. You and Gaylors are the exact same brand of fully fucking cooked lmao. You don’t know a total stranger’s sexuality. She’s very possibly a weird straight girl and a crappy ally! For sure! Straight women who say gay pride is what makes them them exist and unless they’re Cher they’re BAD ALLIES lmao and need to take Taylor’s own advice and take several seats. Constantly dragging her for it is also uncool tho because she keeps doing this shit so either she’s big dumb - possible - or she’s signaling. And if she is signaling, that’s cool, some people have picked up on it. Maybe she did it on accident or because she’s dumb or for attention idk this lady! Everyone just needs to, again, take her fucking advice and calm down.

She evidently likes the jokes dude because she’s befriended celebs who’ve Gaylored and invited chill Gaylors to events and shit. She also keeps like… doing this shit right like saying “happy pride to you too” and singing fun songs about girls - one canonically from a male perspective but she’s done the Vance Joy cover too and she also has Dorothea which she’s never explained despite seeing all the “gay anthem Betty” stuff (it’s not to me but it’s cool to is to some people like I wish I’d had a chill enough HS experience where that’d be relatable lmao) and she had “girls and girls and boys and boys” and shit. Like it doesn’t bother her. At all.

So if it doesn’t bother HER why the fuck would it bother YOU?

Maybe she’s just… not a homophobe and likes attention like a lot of straight girls. That’s fine man then let her then have it. We can obviously start dragging her allyship but we… don’t know that it’s actually as bad as all that and she isn’t just figuring out what to do with this part of her identity so like??? That’d be uncool right if we kept yelling “BE A BETTER ALLY” to someone who was like “idk man I’m trying but also I’m a bit gay dudes so I slip up and I’m learning” like that is out of line. We know she’s also always working on her feminism so it’s not like she’s perfect on identities we KNOW she holds. Because… no one is tbh.

Truthering. Sexuality. Is. Fucking. Weird.

The only person whose sexuality you ever fully know is your own and even then you can figure new stuff out and labels and identity are complicated - people who aren’t straight or Kinsey 6 gay tend to struggle with it on the whole my dude. See GAGA saying she understands she’s not part of the community. Gaga’s been openly out since like 2009. If Gaga feels more like an ally then… idk anymore. The issues are bierasure and heteronormativity and gatekeeping within the community and a societal obsession with cis masculinities whereby if someone does take a fancy to cis men they’re often assumed to be exclusively into that.

And look we should be defending Gaga not Taylor because Gaga is out and it’s crap she feels that way. We don’t need to worry about Taylor. But genuinely truthering - not saying “here’s what I think” like actually truthering - is fucking weird.

It’s fine to say “based on her calling herself an ally three times I’m gonna assume she’s straight” like I hear that dude. But being like “STOP MAKING JOKES” when she… likes the jokes… is just wack.

To use another celeb example, Gillian Anderson fully referred to herself as straight in a random interview - after she had already been out but while partnered with a man - and then went back to using bi/pan when they broke up. People aren’t cereals and this shit is hard.

If you’re “Taylor Swift is a liar”ing like I’m not here for it but if you’re being like “HOW DARE YOU MAKE JOKES OR WONDER IF SHE KISSED A GIRL” I’m also like just… not vibing with the energy because the implication is there’s something wrong or deviant about being off straight.

And in conclusion genuinely Gayloring or Hetloring as your brand is strange idk like get a new hobby lol you shouldn’t care that much about a stranger’s sexuality lmfao when said stranger - same as any other normal person because they’re not fictional characters - may not even really know themselves 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

#nat talks swiftdom

[curtashiism]

(1/X) Hiya, hope your day is going okay! I saw as you got into V/oltron and was excited to see some new people getting into see the series and finding sh/eith! It sounds like you recently got some rude anons related to Cur/tashi (which is never okay, to be clear) and I was sad to see that. I think you may have been really surprised at the general vibe of people wanting to avoid Cur/tashi and I wanted to offer a bit of perspective and explain why that might be, if you wanted.

(2/X) To be clear, this isn’t to convince you to like or not like Cur/tashi at all, but to maybe understand better why some people are so upset by it and try so hard to avoid it. Again, this is not to explain away anyone being rude which is never acceptable, but just why other people may want so badly to avoid it. There’s a lot of really crazy behind-the-scenes stuff that went on that no one coming into this after the show ended would know that plays a big part in that.

(3/3) But also I’m not gonna just dump it on you if you’re not interested, so just an offer if you’d like to understand better, because I think why most sh/eith shippers avoid it so hard can be really confusing if you’re not aware. If you’re not interested, feel free to just ignore this. Anyways, like I said, this isn’t about excusing mean messages people sought you out to send, which is never okay, and I hope you’re doing better.

I appreciate the friendly message, anon.

I’m already well aware of the reason people don’t like the Curtashi ship itself. I’ve seen dozens of rants about how Curtashi is literally the WORST thing to EVER happen to the queer community and the writing staff totally used it to try and hurt the queer community and so it’s evil and no real queer person would ever actually like it. (yes, I am exaggerating a bit. But I have had people imply I must be a straight woman to like it [I am neither] or that it was done by the creators to be hurtful on purpose [also not true, the hurt was accidental, not deliberate.])

I don’t care that people hate Curtashi. I really don’t. There is nothing at all wrong with the concept of a NOTP. I’ve been close friends in past fandoms with people who ship my NOTP, or where I’m the one who ships THEIR NOTP. If the conversation was “I don’t like Curtashi, but you do, and that’s okay!” I would literally never have a single complaint.

I have a problem with the fact that I can’t go through the “Curtashi” or “Shurtis” tags on Twitter without seeing mean and spiteful Tweets that give no respect to the feelings of shippers, or even worse, imply that they deserve to have a bad fandom experience. I have a problem with the fact that a group of shippers who were targeted by antis turned around and started bullying another group of shippers yet claim it was different and not as bad so therefore it isn’t a problem. I have a problem with the fact that people treat it as some kind of betrayal to the queer community if a queer person says they know it wasn’t good rep, but they still like it for their own reasons.

I have a problem with the fact that when Curtashi shippers try to suggest the creation of a new tag on Twitter to avoid the endgame Sheith infidelity fics getting crosstagged while still letting Sheith shippers know what to blacklist, the Curtashi shippers get mocked and called oversensitive, showing that these people really do only care about the feelings of people who like their ship and upsetting Curtashi shippers is a feature, not a bug.

I have a problem with the fact that when I post about my upset feelings at the hostile environment fandom has creature to Curtashi shippers, I get responses like this (no offense, anon) that frame the issue as me having a problem with people not liking the SHIP, not as an issue of people having no respect for the SHIPPERS. I have a problem with the fact that people reframe the issue as me thinking everyone has to tolerate my ship, not as saying everyone has to respect the SHIPPERS who are just trying to create a happy and fun fandom space the same as Sheith shippers.

I have a problem with the fact that when I suggest things to try and show unity between Sheith shippers and Curtashi shippers, I get mocked. I have a problem with the fact that I, a nonbinary lesbian, am being told what I am and am not allowed to enjoy as a queer person by the same people who got angry at antis telling THEM what they were and were not allowed to enjoy.

I could not care less, not if I was offered physical money to try to care less, that people hate my ship. I care that people are going out of their way to make the fandom hostile for shippers.

#curtashi #shurtis #voltron legendary defender #voltron #vld #fandom hate #ask