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msookyspooky · 2 years

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Ngl I don't personally ship Stu and Billy together cause canonically they are meant to be straight and I'm not the sharing type, but THIS STORY IS AMAZING. I'm a sucker for slow burn romances and I'm lowkey picky when it comes to fics sooo this is the first one in a LONG TIME that I've been so excited about.

I would rather lose A WHOLE LIMB than let anything happen to Seth or Dewey 😭 You don't present Stu as some innocent guy who just killed for Billy, no, you show that he was gonna kill REGARDLESS of Billy's influence and it's so refreshing cause it was hinted Stu always was messed up in the film. I can't help but cringe everytime someone tries to argue that Stu was in love with Billy and THAT was why he killed. I respect the opinion, but the dolls hanging in Stu's attic go completely against that theory. This man was ripping dolls apart bc he was imagining doing it to people 😭 and it was hidden in the attic where his parents probably never go.

Another thing too is that we don't ACTUALLY know what Stu's feelings for Billy were in the film. They were explicitly written to only be friends and tbh that's how I interpret them. However, they clearly weren't even true friends if Billy was ready to sell him out. Stu even implied that he was going to blame Billy if they got caught with the whole "peer pressure" thing. It's so nice to see an author be realistic about how selfish these two really are 👏

I love how our character is actually flawed and how you don't sugarcoat that Billy and Stu are terrible people. I love soft Billy and Stu, but I can only take so much fluff 🤣 The fact that you made me simp for MEEKS even tho I never simped for him before? An impressive feat.

I'm hyped for the next chapter lol I'm ready for my dinner date with our hunk of a man named Ray 😏 why do I have a funny feeling Gale is gonna interrupt it? Ik Dewey's gonna be there. I'm so excited to see Mark too. I'm ready to get a free ride in the police car with my shades on. I'll be the Olivia Benson to his Elliot Stabler 🤣🤣

Billy and Stu's dynamic is canonlically confusing, chaotic and dark. That I will 100% agree with.

Whether they were always friends or not is debatable. Did Billy know of Stu and knew he was a lil wacked and thought 'this guys perfect' or were they always two kind of screwed up individuals that were always friends and Stu kind of followed Billy around and shared common interests and Billy took a chance? I think they were friends bc even if Stu was used as a sell out in case shit went south; Billy would not trust just anyone with a murder plot.

I respectfully disagree with the straight thing only bc the writter himself eluded to basing both characters off of two closeted gay teen murderers even though he left the idea of them being together up to the audience to this day; he still was influenced by these two murderers when writting Billy and Stu. Neve confirmed she thought it was plausible they were. Matthew Lilard himself headcanons it joking or not the idea is there. And it was so homoerotic that Scary Movie made fun of it with Bobby and Ray. Randy himself called Billy a homorepressed mamas boy. That's way too many ppl and big names IMO noticing the homoerotic vibes included those involved for them to be 100% straight. Yes they were presented as straight but I think the only reason they weren't at least canonly bisexual was the same reason they cut out Amber and Tara being a couple; Censors wouldn't allow it and the movie would have tanked. One lesbian is the limit apparently... People were bitching about the gay couple in IT part 2 for fucksakes. I was in the theater with ppl booing and throwing popcorn at the screen and then cheering when the one died. It's sick but we are not as progressed as much as the chronically online internet world wants to think we are. Let alone in the 90s when Scream first came out. Wes had to limit the gore just to get the movie to pass let alone if they had two repressed teen boys together.

I don't write them as strictly homosexual OBVIOUSLY (At least not from what we see with Stu definitely into girls and Billy having sex with Sidney and Christy. We could argue its confincating but whatever). And maybe that's just my bi ass headcanoning and tired of bisexuality being erased constantly?

Ppl hc them as straight, bi/pan, ace or gay and honestly I'm fine with it as long as no one gets hateful. I just wanted to clarify why I personally don't consider them hetero in my writing. Not an attack on you or anything babe just claryfying my own headcanons! 🖤🖤🖤

I respect it if you don't ship them bc I don't ship them romantically either not bc I don't like it but bc I can't see them willing to be healthy and romantically together tbh. Fool around? For sure. But I sadly don't know if Matt's idea of them being a queer couple killing on the weekends and rescuing dogs is possible lolol

And trust me, just last year I never shipped poly anything especially with a self insert...Now? Ngl it hits different. @polyghostfacehours showed me the light lmfao

As for my writing; I greatly appreciate the compliment!! I'm sick of ppl painting Stu as an innocent meow meow too and Billy's lapdog. And I love fluffy writing but slowburns and angst is where it's at for me. Shit hits perfectly and I will probably never stop no matter how frustrating it is watching characters fumble and fuck it up ☠️🖤

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rahleeyah · 2 years

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After watching the episode, what are your thoughts on Barba’s choice to defend Wheatley and how things were left between him and Olivia? I can appreciate that even he himself is unclear by his decision, as evidenced by the scene in her office, but am confused by how stunned he looked when Olivia said she felt betrayed. She flat out had asked him not to do it from the beginning.

I also keep going back to him starting to say “Stabler coming back has made things more complicated.” There are SO many ways to interpret this (and try as I might I can’t help but wonder about WL’s implications).

I want to be clear this all comes from a place of me shipping EO and loving the Barba/Olivia friendship as well. I’m just…really curious by the choices made and how they intend to play it all out, and always love your take!

so here's the thing, right, is that i do think there's an argument to be made that barba's decision makes sense. i don't think it's the best argument they could have given him, but it's there.

rafael's thing was initially sort of. "fuck your feelings the law's the law lmao" and yes there's the whole "olivia softened him up and now he understands nuance" thing, but what this does is kinda marries the two? in that he fully believes that the law must be applied justly, across the board, and that the means to the end do matter. he looks at this case, and he knows wheatley is a criminal, but this case - not the raketeering case, not the other murders he's been accused of, just kathy's murder - stinks. there is sufficient evidence to make it appear that he has been railroaded, by a police force that rafael believes must be held accountable for its violence and it's attacks on the public. wheatley is a dick, but he is, as rafael points out, a great test case. even an unabashed criminal is entitled a good defense and due process; that is the foundation of the system, that everyone is entitled to those things. so rafael choosing to take this case makes sense in terms of his morals.

and he knows it's going to upset liv but i got the impression that he was taken aback by the vehemence of her response, and that he maybe didn't fully understand it. we have been talking, so much, about the person liv had to become without elliot, and how no one really got the full picture of her without him there, and this is the consequences of that. rafael just met 1.0 liv for the first time. the full olivia. the one who defends stabler, instead of joining rafael in admonishing him. rafa's liv wouldn't do that for anyone else, and so he doesn't expect her to do so now, and maybe doesn't quite know what to do with that.

and the stabler coming back has made things more complicated thing felt sort of out of place to me bc like. what the fuck does rafa know about it lmao like are people talking to him about it? does he know how this has impacted liv? has he noticed a change in her since elliot came back? absent those details it feels like a comment he doesn't actually have the knowledge to make, you know? and if he and liv have been communicating about this i wanna know what that looked like.

i would love to see them bring rafa back, and have him reconcile with the totality of olivia - and to have olivia reconcile with it herself, instead of sort of having each foot planted in two worlds, caught between the two. i wouldn't be surprised if they do eventually do that, just to mend that fissure.

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justkate-tm · 3 years

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hi here's a rambling of my thoughts, warning this is kind of long.

so I'm just sitting here thinking about law & order SVU as always, and I'm thinking about how seasons 1-12, and Season 13 onward are two totally different shows. the show premiered only two months after I was born but I watched it my whole childhood, probably not great for my development probably not a great thing for me, but I remember watching episodes of the show as early as when I was 6 years old. but then in like 7th grade I fell in love with the show so I've seen every single episode, and they're just 2 different shows to me. the big reason is because seasons 1-12 had a fiercely established cast. the only thing that really changed was when Jeffries left after only one season and Ice T came on, and when Cabot was replaced with Novak, and then the big big change was when Elliot left after season 12, but that's not all that changed.

cause in seasons 1-12, there was an extra element of the show that i kinda miss; the medical examiner was a main character, as was a psychologist, and a forensics guy that we saw consistently, we even saw the taru guy Morales on a regular basis. the forensics, psychology, and autopsy element of the show was a big part of it, sort of similar to NCIS. but then in season 13 and onward we don't really see any of that stuff, and it's a treat when we do. and also in the seasons following 13, there was a lot of consistent cast changes, meaning you could break down those seasons even further.

seasons 13, 14, and up to the halfway point of 15 is an established cast. we have Nick and Amanda join the crew to replace Stabler, no one leaves and during that time frame we also get Barba. but then in season 15, Munch and Cragen both leave and this is when Olivia is placed in a leadership position. now this is a significant change in the show cuz her role is completely different after that point.

and then season 16? new character. Sonny Carisi is here everybody. but then at the end of 16? Nick is gone. so then 17? another new character, Sergeant Dodds is here but then he dies, but no one replaces him, so season 18 is pretty chill. but then what happens halfway through season 19? Barba leaves, nother new character, Peter Stone is here and he stays on through season 20, so season 20 is chill like season 18. but then guess what? Peter Stone is leaving, so season 21 you would think the new character would be an ADA but instead ooh let's give Carisi a career change so now he's the ADA, so that's a structural change and then a few episodes in what happens? nother new character, Kat's here now. now it's season 22 guess what? nother new character, Chief Garland is a main character now.

so when you rewatch the newer seasons, you can actually pick a character to base your rewatch around like oh I'm going to watch the Nick Amaro years and watch Seasons 13 to 16 or oh I'm going to watch the Barba years or the Carisi years, hell you could even watch the detective Carisi years or the ADA Carisi years.

I'm not saying this as a bad thing i think it's neat. i don't feel like svu 1.0 is better or worse than 13 onward, i actually have what feels like the unpopular opinion bc I really love Carisi, Amanda, and Barba so I watch those episodes more than I do early seasons, but it feels like two completely different shows to me.

the only complaint I do have is the fact that we never got to see Carisi and Munch interact because I think they would be a good duo.

that's all thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

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