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forgottenlivesobverse · 6 months
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Forgotten Lives 3
A third and final set of FORGOTTEN LIVES tales…
A person is the sum of their memories. A Time Lord even more so.
But some people live so long that there is no longer room for all the memories; they find themselves diminished, whittled away piece by piece…
For many years, Doctor Who has implied that William Hartnell played the Doctor’s first incarnation — but in The Brain of Morbius, we were given glimpses of eight stern-faced men in assorted historical costumes — Doctors before the one we know as the first.
What were they like, these forgotten Doctors? What worlds did they visit, and what adventures did they have there? Who were their companions, and who were their enemies?
And perhaps just as interesting — what sort of stories would this forgotten prehistory of Doctor Who have told?
‘The Lungs of the Birastrop’ by Paul Driscoll
‘Who Needs Enemies’ by Jay Eales
‘Admission to the Unknown’ by Ian McIntire
‘Hope Springs’ by Chris Wing
‘The Swan and the Flame’ by Kara Dennison
‘Scientific Advisor’ by Daniel Tessier
‘The Country of the Young’ by Philip Purser-Hallard
The Seven Scholars and the Storyteller’ by Simon Bucher-Jones
Edited by Philip Purser-Hallard. Cover art by Jon Huff. Cover design by Cody Schell.
PRE-ORDER ONLY. PUBLICATION EARLY DECEMBER.
ALL PROFITS FROM THIS BOOK WILL BE DONATED TO ALZHEIMER’S CHARITIES.
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classic-who-review · 2 months
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The Brain of Morbius 1976
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9/10
This is one my favorites. So so good. I love all the timelord background information. The sisters are fantastic as well. I really enjoy them.
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grandadtwelve · 1 year
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the doctor telling the villain that his plans have finally been thwarted only for the villain to go “erm.. hehe sorry um.. actually I have made a small miscalculation.. and you have to help me fix it before my mistake causes even more death and destruction..” and then the doctor just.
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hysterical thank you
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pluralzalpha · 3 months
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All three Forgotten Lives volumes are now available as ebooks for a limited time. I'm told they'll be taken down by the end of February to avoid the wrath of the Beeb.
As always, all profits go to Alzheimers charities.
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thienvaldram · 3 months
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Forgotten Lives 3 Lore Dump
Just a bunch of lore related observations from FL3
Framing Narration (Fourth Doctor/T Baker POV)
Mindbending was not invented by the Time Lords but by an arthropod species with ‘umpteen’ lives.
The Master was better at it than the Doctor at the Academy
George Gallaccio
The Lungs of the Birastrop is two years after Doctor Crocus and the Pages of Fear on Earth
The TARDIS is still a police box
The Birastrop are part of the Cult of Morbius, they do not believe in the Elixir of Life
The Doctor claims he used to be a friend of Morbius, but he seems to be bluffing
Varne can fly the TARDIS
The Doctor believes he made the firecrackers that caused the events of this story
Varne departs and a new companion, Agnes, joins in this story.
The Time Lords have been directing this incarnations efforts from the shadows, he is already considered a renegade by this point.
The firecrackers were actually made by a group of Time Lords on their final incarnations (Led by Sorianius) who had swallowed Deathworm Morphants to merge with the gunpowder.
The Doctor believes he may have killed Morbius
Framing Narration cont.
The Morbius Monster’s lungs are that of a Birastrop
The Doctor was unaware of these lives by this point, though they didn’t seem to be “erased”, merely forgotten.
Robert Holmes
The Doctor put in a healing tank frequently
He seems unfamiliar with this incarnation, and the clothes, but he also clearly has amnesia from being pulled out of the tank. (This is due to him coming out of his infiltrator persona)
By the time he reaches the hall, he’s settled in to his persona again.
His most recent mission prevented ‘a big old civil war’ and dismantled the war machine of ‘a recently deposed President’ (Morbius).
The Morbius civil war occurred during this Doctor’s era
He infiltrated the enemy side as “Bretor Ohm”, this was a new body but not a new incarnation. (Chameleon Arch?)
His failure in his final mission is responsible for Morbius’s escape (In actuality, Sellin used a vocal command to halt him)
Morbius was of House Aurora
Sellin had also given the real Bretor Ohm the Doctor’s biodata as a backup plan, but he escaped and captured Morbius whilst the real Doctor distracted Sellin.
Ohm and the Doctor ended up escaping in a TARDIS (But he was presumably later recaptured)
Framing Narration cont.
Upon reaching Holmes, Morbius realises that the Doctor is an active enemy of his, he redoubles his efforts to push the Doctor back after this point.
Graeme Harper
This Doctor has not been home in a very long time.
Morbius’s was in power during this Doctor’s era. That is why they ran away.
This Doctor has ‘raised families’
Alexandra Justine Collins is travelling with the Doctor
This incarnation disappeared into the Portal of Transformation after contemplating returning to Gallifrey. It is unclear if this is intended to be the cause of this incarnation’s rejuvenation.
Framing Narration cont.
This incarnation was secretive enough that the echo of their persona was still deflecting secrets from Morbius’s intrusion during the mindbending battle years earlier.
The Camfield incarnation horrifically lost his family (Cold Fusion) and the Fourth Doctor is still able to feel the pain even with centuries of distance.
Douglas Camfield
Another companion, Carol Williams. Stowed away on the TARDIS.
After the Loomborn revolt, the Camfield Doctor was forced into hiding.
He has left Dattany for a little while so he could heal from his family’s deaths.
The Doctor and Tallis (Someone who worked for him back on Gallifrey) believe some of his family has escaped the massacre. They go to investigate.
Morbius’s rise to power was occurring during this Doctor’s era.
Cedric and Jilly are still alive on Earth so were not related to the children killed in the Loomborn revolt.
Phillip Hinchcliffe
This Doctor parted ways with Rue eventually and settled down on Earth (Paris 1792).
It had been either 4 or -156 years since then depending on the perspective.
The Order of the Spheres and Time Lords eventually fell out, the Doctor’s handlers and the Unity were different groups.
After settling down on Earth, the Time Lords are still trying to find him. The Sisterhood of Karn uses this to blackmail him to take Françoise to Karn.
Françoise (Swan) becomes a new companion in a stripped down timeship (The Exedra) headed for Karn.
He is being pursued by another renegade called ‘The Citizen’, he wants the Elixir of Life from Karn. The Doctor leaves him to the mercy of the locals on Durcrow
The leader of the sisterhood is O’Hercha.
The Sisterhood has seen the Doctor prior to this.
The Time Lords regain contact with him in this story and intend to bring him ‘back into the fold’.
Framing Narration cont.
Four figures out the Sisterhood owes him a favour after recalling the Hinchcliffe Doctor’s life.
Christopher Baker
Cedric and Jilly’s mother is no longer ‘here’ anymore
She was Joan Smith (Miss Weston). Joan Weston is the “Joan Redfern” that Baker fell in love with. He want by ‘John Smith’ for this time period.
They first landed in early 1938 after Banks-Stewart’s renewal.
The Advisor is working alongside the Unity to disrupt Earth history. He is currently operating as a scientific advisor for the ‘Radio Men’ (Cybermen?)
The Doctor has been ‘playing with his biology’
Jill Smith (Jilly) was born in 1939
Joan Smith eventually died
Robert Banks Stewart
Joan and The Doctor have been associated for four years, it is now 1944, this means he has been on Earth for six years (1938-1944).
The Doctor’s talking owl has no name because ‘birds don’t use names’
The Magus is working with the Nazis.
The Magus had two twins working for him but one perished at the Temple of Gog and Magog.
A sample of the Elixir of Life found its way to a safe in Ireland.
The Magus claims he wants the Elixir of Life to ensure Hitler stands trial for his actions. This is a lie, as he was wounded and is dying.
Maggie O’Hecha stole the Elixir before the Doctor or Magus could get to it, she would later become leader of the sisterhood.
The Sisterhood sent the Doctor to 1945 and he saw and crystallised the end of the War.
Joan Weston’s real name isn’t Joan Weston (Joan Redfern??). In 1944 she and the Doctor left Earth to travel.
Christopher Barry
Morbius was friends with the Doctor according to ‘the story’.
His wife will slap him next time she sees him and hole up in a ‘Tower in Avalon’.
Framing Narration conc.
Morbius had known Christopher Barry’s Doctor, he’d attempted to harness the living story in order to fulfil his future dreams.
The living story had indeed raised Morbius to greatness only to bring him low in the end. He only learns this upon hitting Barry’s memories in the mindbending match, and this is why he goes full rage afterwards.
Four is unsure how many of these reawakened memories he’d retain, but doesn’t care as he embraces being an ever evolving story.
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biggest12fan · 1 month
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'the brain of morbius? i wonder what that's about'
it's about morbius' brain. crazy, i wasn't expecting that
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stephadoo · 2 years
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Every Doctor Who Story → The Brain of Morbius
“How far, Doctor? How long have you lived?”
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mintyimperiatrix · 5 months
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so I have no clue how much attention this is going to get BUT @locheye and I have made a discord server for the Forgotten Lives books/The Morbius Doctors! we also have other channels for discussing the other pre-Hartnell Doctors like the Fugitive Doctor and the Timeless Child so if you’re interested in that end of Doctor Who lore feel free to join :D
invite link: https://discord.gg/TVYhWwTsc2
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He really morbed the Doctor
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tvmigraine · 8 months
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FORGOTTEN LIVES: Douglas Camfield
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Before we begin! Remember to get a copy of the Forgotten Lives Omnibus at this link! You've got until the 1st of September, so make sure you don't forget to buy the book!
To make up for lost time, today we'll be covering two Doctors - firstly we'll be covering one of the only Morbius Doctors to get an official appearance in expanded media. Lance Parkin returns to this character roughly twenty years after writing "Cold Fusion" that covered the Doctor's forgotten past. As a writer who's supported the idea for years, even naming his first story after the article he wrote about the Morbius Doctors, how does he handle this incarnation?
Douglas Camfield (1931-1984) directed a lot of TV, such as Terry Nation's Blake 7, Z Cars and Public Eye. His direction credits to Doctor Who are equally impressive - The Crusade, The Daleks' Master Plan, The Web of Fear and Inferno to name a few. If there was any face behind the scenes that deserved this cameo role, Camfield was near the top of the list.
Lance Parkin, now having grabbed the reins to this incarnation, comes in with a clear vision for who his Doctor is and what his era would be. The Camfield Doctor is something of a bounty hunter, working with his companion Dattany to avenge those they couldn't save. They do not share as much time together as I may first have liked, but the chemistry between the characters easily helps you picture how the two may work together. Paul Hanley compliments this personality by making the Doctor's outfit akin to a witch hunter, someone trying to stomp out evil.
The other stories show the Doctor like a political ambassador, as if he's acting on behalf of the Time Lords. In a canon where we now have the Fugitive Doctor and her exploits alongside and against Division, the Camfield Doctor feels like how the Doctor fights against Division. There is a malicious compliance to this Doctor, where he will complete a mission so long as it is his way - if he sees wrong being done then he will find a way to change it.
To be transparent... I didn't really pull to these stories, they're good but not what I personally look for (I do commend the worldbuilding done by Gareth Madgwick in his story, it paints that world vividly). However, unlike other Doctors, I will not be examining him too much, instead I want to discuss some lore. Unfortunately for me, that means having to face my greatest enemy - the Tardis Wiki.
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Now is the part where I go fully conspiracy. Where other Doctors here were built from the ground-up, this Doctor's appearance in "Cold Fusion" gives us more to work with on what this Doctor's life might've been like. It also has implications for the past Doctors we've covered so buckle in! (NOTE: Any inaccuracies about "Cold Fusion" are because I have yet to read it. Also don't take this too seriously, as Who contradicts Who all the time and Parkin can change whatever he wants.)
For example! This Doctor married a woman called Patience, having thirteen children and was even a part of the Supreme Council which was a ruling body on Gallifrey. He was subsequently charged with "consorting with aliens", something we see in Parkin's second story for this series.
However! Patience is also crucial in the plot to "The Infinity Doctors", the 40th anniversary also written by Lance Parkin. The book may or may not be in main continuity as the Infinity Doctor could be either the 1st or the 8th... or anything past and future. You want to know how that book would've originally started? It was supposed to begin with the Robert Banks Stewart Doctor with Patience. Counting Forgotten Lives continuity, this would imply that the Banks Stewart Doctor would be the one to first marry Patience.
Paul Hanley's "The Changing Face of Dr. Who" throws a fun spanner into the works. The Christopher Baker Doctor is stated to fall in love with Joan Redfern from "Human Nature" and it's TV adaptation. It feels as though the implication of the original book would make Cedric and Jilly the children that the Baker Doctor and Redfern may have had (this part is entirely theoretical). If this is the case, the Doctor would marry in his second incarnation, have human children following a third version of "Human Nature" then journey with them for a while, before eventually coming back to his wife. This also discounts that the Barry Doctor married a woman called Zodin at some point...
And maybe some things are best left Forgotten. Such as flavour text.
Patience, also, is placed into "The Machine" during "Cold Fusion" - a TARDIS created by Omega that predates the name of TARDIS, it was used to get her safely off of Gallifrey. The thing is, the Machine looks like TARDIS from the Cushing Movies.
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So maybe Cushing is pre-Hartnell too? And Dr. Who made TARDIS in the films, or claims to, so did he make The Machine? If Omega made it, then are Omega and Dr. Who the same? My brain feels like it's leaking.
For more insight into the creative process of every author that worked on Forgotten Lives, you can go to @forgottenlivesobverse and find interviews from everyone involved across the books. If you're looking for insight on how the outfits were designed, you can go to Paul Hanley's Patreon and find what went into designing each Doctor.
See a snapshot of how this Doctor bent the rules and tried to make amends. If this Doctor interests you, then I would even recommend trying to track down a copy of "Cold Fusion" to fill another gap.
PAST LIVES by Lance Parkin
LEVERAGE by Gareth Madgwick
RETROGENESIS (Part Five) by Philip Purser-Hallard
TRAIL OF A TIME LORD by Lance Parkin
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The next Doctor won't be any simpler as we cover the Graeme Harper Doctor, the journey Paul Hanley went on to simply find the original photo and grandiose sci-fi that comes with a new Doctor. That post should come later today, so don't wait too long!
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doctorwhogirlie · 5 days
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forgottenlivesobverse · 5 months
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If you haven't ordered Forgotten Lives 3 yet, this is the last day it will be possible. Come on, you'll kick yourself if you don't.
In the meantime, here's the revised (still somewhat speculative) timeline of the Morbius Doctors, incorporating the new stories.
Barry
The Island of Aeons
The Knocking in the Mineshaft
The Seven Scholars and the Storyteller
Retrogenesis Part 1
The Hand of Night and Shadow
Banks Stewart
House of Images
The Hounds of War
Retrogenesis Part 2
The Rosewell Incident
The Country of the Young
Baker
Scientific Advisor
The Cross of Venus
The First Englishmen
Retrogenesis Part 3
Swan Song
Hinchcliffe
Gauntlet of Absolution
The Demons of Dog Street
Retrogenesis Part 4
The Hive Minders Part 1
The Swan and the Flame
Camfield
Past Lives
Leverage
Retrogenesis Part 5
[Cold Fusion flashbacks]
Hope Springs
Trail of a Time Lord
Harper
Valhalla Must Fall!
In the Land Beyond the River
Retrogenesis Part 6
Scene to Uncover
Admission to the Unknown
Holmes
The Other Side
Who Needs Enemies
The Hive Minders Part 2
Retrogenesis Part 7
Borrowed Time
Gallaccio
Doctor Crocus and the Pages of Fear
The Lungs of the Birastrop
Doctor Crocus and the Factory of the Future
Retrogenesis Part 8
[The Other Side]
The Queen of Bohemia and the Laughing TARDIS
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Samuel West Recalls Joy of Shooting Dimensions in Time and Hopes to Be in Doctor Who Again Soon
Samuel West Recalls Joy of Shooting Dimensions in Time and Hopes to Be in #DoctorWho Again Soon
Samuel West, an actor with plenty of plaudits and high-profiles, says his brief on-screen appearance in Doctor Who is the “finest point of my career”. It occurred in Dimensions in Time, a two-part story broadcast in 1993 that lasted 12 minutes and was actually a crossover between the show and EastEnders. The significance of his appearance, and little slice of dialogue in this story is because he…
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grandadtwelve · 1 year
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I have thoughts abt the doctor participating in practices that were previously exclusive to members of a sisterhood more than once.
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pluralzalpha · 6 months
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The third and final collection of the Doctor's Forgotten Lives is now available to order, featuring eight new Doctor Who stories by some clever types and also me.
This is an unofficial publication with all profits to Alzheimer charities.
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thienvaldram · 3 months
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Gallifreyan House Lore – Forgotten Lives
The Doctor is from ‘The House on the Mountain’ (The House of Lungbarrow)
The Holmes Doctor is housed in a place called the Sequester. He works for some kind of Time Lord interventionist group, the name is never specified.
The Houses mentioned are Gloaming, Cockrow, Brightening, Noon, Decline and Aurora. These seem to be the houses directly involved in whatever organisation Holmes is a part of.
Cockrow, Brightening and Noon are ‘The Daylight Houses’ and are poorly acquainted with the organisation, only rarely showing up, meanwhile Gloaming, Decline and Aurora are the ‘Night Houses’.
The Daylight Houses held no sway in Holmes’s trial and were merely there for court protocol.
House Gloaming are science oriented and prefer not to show up despite their dominance in favour of research.
House Decline is said to be ‘The Doctor’s House’, indicating the names used at the Sequester are probably codenames. With Decline being Lungbarrow.
Decline is said to have produced their ‘fair share of renegades’.
House Aurora is ‘Morbius’s House’, (Dvora?). They are one of the less influential houses in this era. A decent amount of them are said to have defected when Morbius did.
The Sequester seems to be a CIA predecessor. So I’m guessing Time Lord agencies go.
Founding of The Mathematical Bureau
Division disappear off the map to do whatever their own thing is
The Unity forks from new more radical members of the Addition (The start of the Broken Generation) like the Magus.
Morbius rises to power as Imperator and becomes President
The Unity defects to Morbius when the Civil War kicks off
The Sequester is set up to help fight the Civil War, the Holmes Doctor is drafted into it after returning to the Homeworld freshly regenerated (as per Harper’s final story in FL3)
The Civil War ends
The Doctor regenerates and escapes the Sequester.
The War Chief Incident, the Sequester is retooled into the Celestial Intervention Agency.
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