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gothicroses · 11 months
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terfs want women to stay victims
remember that
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TERF: You can always tell who is a real woman. An aesthetic female eyebrow has an arch and fuller, shapely lips, thin jaws that come to a delicate v, and thinner noses with a slight upturn.
Me: So... not women:
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TERF: Look. These are things that determine differences between males and females. It's scientific and real and fact, which means it can't be biased. I don't make the rules. This is simply what is more feminine.
Me: Feminine? So now, not only are we conflating "woman" and "female," but also "feminine" and "female." And you didn't stop to consider that there might be something inherently misogynistic and racist in what's considered "feminine"?
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luciusgerard · 2 years
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Who's gonna tell TERFs that plenty of cis women, AKA the people they claim to be "protecting" and "empowering" with their movement, can be hairy? Or go bald? Or be muscular, or above six feet? Or have broad shoulders, square jaws, big hands and feet, Adam's apples, hooked noses, low voices, or rectangular body types? Or any other trait these bigots consider "giveaways," or "masculine," or "unattractive"? Women, whether cis- or transgender, come in all different shapes and sizes, and you can't claim to celebrate womanhood while reinforcing misogynistic and transphobic stereotypes that literally cost people their lives.
Case in point: Fuck TERFs. <3
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bittersweetbonbon · 22 days
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hey guys!! here's my design for an anti-TERF pride flag!! let me know what you think!!
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I don't know how else I can make this clear.
RAPE does not exist for the purpose of reproduction, the continuation of ("male") genes and the continuation of family lines. RAPE is not a natural or biological phenomenon.
The idea that RAPE is a product of evolution is a theory pushed forth by some men to discount holding perpetrators accountable. There is a reason feminists have long rejected the biological theory of rape. Such a theory naturalizes rape, and in-turn normalizes it's existence rather than regarding it as the perverse, depraved and inhumane crime that it is.
This application of Social Darwinism is insidious. Because once we accept rape as natural to men and the continuation of the human race, we pave a path to justify rape for the perseverance of human populations and the continued "domestic supply of infants." It will be used to justify that some men are naturally more inclined to rape than others. And it will be used to justify holding anyone capable of pregnancy as chattel for the purposes of propagating the race while discarding any "female" or "woman" who cannot produce as desired.
Accepting it as simply an evolutionary development carried out by "males" with limited social skills or limited mating opportunities for the chance to propagate at all is concession. It is concession to an oppression tactic; to a tactic used to strip people of their autonomy. If we accept it as something natural, it becomes something inescapable.
It would mean that no matter what type of hierarchical system we abolish, no matter if gender exists or not, no matter what we do, rape will always exist. If rape is natural, no matter if the patriarchy and gender is abolished, rape will still exist. This would mean that the bodily oppression of female people through rape will still exist outside gender and outside the patriarchy. This would mean that reproductive injustice is natural to our species.
Because rape is "natural" to our reproduction.
And as someone who has worked with rape and domestic crises centers, this rhetoric is very harmful to survivors of assault.
"Rape can be about control and dominance. It can also be about hate and hostility. A rapist usually believes misogynistic rape myths like the idea that women play hard to get. They feel they are entitled to someone else's time and body. They get off on depriving someone else of power. There is a link between narcissism and rape with repeat offenders displaying signs of narcissism. Men who rape sometimes have antisocial tendencies, so they really don't care about social perceptions of them.
However, it is important to note that there is no evidence that mentally ill men are more likely to rape compared to non-mentally ill men.
Social pressure and culture have greater influence over someone's behavior than genetics or biology. Those who feel sure they can get away with rape without punishment are more likely to report they used coercive behavior. Those with friends who display aggressive behavior or acceptance of aggressive behavior are themselves more likely to engage in aggressive behavior." X
A rapist typically knows their victim and is often sexually experienced and the acquaintance-rapist rarely resort to the SAME levels of physical force or violence that stranger-rapists or serial rapists employ.
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If something is culturally reinforced and rooted in what someone is taught, raised to view, and in how they're socialized, then it is not a biological strategy. It is a social tactic of an oppressive system.
Power is socialized.
Rape is either an instinctual urge to reproduce or something that reproduces a power dynamic under an oppressive system. It cannot be both. Because, by it's nature, rape steals power and autonomy from the victim. So, if rape is a natural strategy for reproduction, then that power dynamic is natural too.
This ideology would mean that rape will always exist as a biological system. It would mean that the deprivation of bodily autonomy and the dominance, power, and control reinforced through rape is natural. And if it is natural, then it is inescapable.
So, either it is an instinctual desire to propagate genes or it is a socially construction tactic for power, control, and dominance within an oppressive system. And if your answer is, "our socials just reinforce what is instinctual," then I'll remind you that even without the cultural, we are still left with the instinctual. If rape is not solely socially constructed among humans, then it will continue to oppress you even without gender and the patriarchy. It would thus always exist, and especially so if you enforce this material and physical reality you base your ideology on.
Because the more we reinforce that "males" and "females" are inherently, biologically different, the easier it is for us to be alienated and dehumanized by the system that oppresses us. The more we encourage this idea that we're so fundamentally different and fundamentally incompatible and practically separate species, the more likely we will be treated as only the reproductive capacity you insist on defining us by.
You do not change our societal views on the FEMALE SEX simply by emphasizing women as our sex. You said it yourself. They are socialized to view our SEX to be subhuman. To the patriarchy, what makes us lesser is our biology; our reproduction; our parts; our SEX.
You are also applying our modern understanding of a social concept to the past. You are applying the idea that genetic relation is what makes someone a legitimate heir/child. This is itself a social construction of how descent and family works. Back in the day, biology did shit-all to legitimize an heir. The only thing that legitimized someone's children as their own and legitimized their inheritance was marriage. Bastards did not have inheritance rights.
And before civilization? We had no systems of law and land ownership through which concepts of inheritance- and thus heirs- would have been necessary.
Today, despite the prevalence of adoption and extended and blended families, we hold that biology is paramount in the creation of family; that what is most important in your "legacy" (a social construct) is the continuation of you through genes. And while such a social constructed existed in the past, only today is such a concept largely divorced from marriage (in some places).
"If the reason for rape is reproduction, then men and children would never be victims of rape. And if it's reason was reproduction and the continuation of a man's genes, we would see proportional statistics across nation, culture, race, and ethnicity. Women of color are at a greater risk of rape than white women, and women in war-torn countries are at a greater risk than women living in peace. If it's purpose was for "males" to pass on their genes, then sex workers wouldn't face higher numbers of assault and we'd see a consistent trend of a rise in assaults in countries with falling birth rates.
And if your theory were the case, we'd also see similar incident of rape among straight, bisexual, and lesbian women. We'd also see little to no incident of rape among transwomen if this were the case as they cannot get pregnant."
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The reason "people with vaginas are raped," does not work grammatically isn't because it centers "person" and thus personhood, but because it is in the passive voice. If I replaced that with "women," we'd still run into the same issue.
"Women are raped and impregnated." By who?
Advocates and feminists most certainly use the active voice, and encourage it's use. Rather than "Women are raped," thus making their rapist some shadowy, unknown figure and making rape something done to her rather done by someone, we would say, "Josh raped Sarah." The subject should perform the action.
That would go for other examples too:
"Steven was robbed." -> "Josh robbed Steven."
"My cat was run over." -> "Josh ran over my cat."
"The road was crossed by the chicken." -> "The chicken crossed the road."
Medical research does not lack clarity because of gender or because of an internal sense of self. It lacks clarity because what is oppressed is not just gender identity, but also sex. Sex was oppressed before the concept of gender existed, sex was oppressed when "gender-roles" (a term that did not exist until the 70s) looked very different, and it would be oppressed even if gender distinctions did not at all exist.
Defining us solely as our sex does not challenge this and does not change sex-based oppression. Because if certain people are oppressed on the basis of sex, using the basis of that oppression (sex) as THE concept which defines and connects them only reinforces the binary and hierarchy that oppresses us. The patriarchy has always striven to divide us into fundamentally separate and supposedly incompatible binaries and has always striven to define as as our sex; to define us as our capacity for reproduction; to define us as "females."
It has always striven to define us by our parts, by our functions, by our capacity to produce ova, by our immutable biology -- and THEN to tie norms and standards and expectations to this. Without the norms and standards and expectations, we still have the patriarchy reducing us as nothing more than machines for the reproduction of workers, soldiers, and the race.
Gender- in terms of roles and norms- may be a social construction used to reinforce social hierarchies under the patriarchy, but the way to fight that is through epicinity. Epicinity, defined as a lack of gender distinction, is- in part- making language gender-neutral.
Gender-neutral language may include the use of person-centered language ("person with the capacity for pregnancy") or a lack of gendered distinction in a word's use ("woman" and "she" or "man" and "he" being used to refer to anyone, regardless of sex). Epicinity means allowing for people to be non-binary, agender, androgynous, and trans.
Epicinity means not reinforcing binaries. Trans/Cis is not a binary. AFAB/AMAB is not a binary. Woman/Man is not a binary. Male/Female is not a binary. TME/TMA is not a binary. TRA/TERF is not a binary.
You are advocating for a biological hierarchy that does not exist. You are advocating that men and women are fundamentally different because, why? The oft misunderstood and oft weaponized sexual dimorphism?
"Biology and it’s discourse are still structured by historic and current social and political views. That includes using “sexual dimorphism” as an excuse to justify the racist and misogynistic standards used by TERFs in their Sex Pattern Recognition, and the classification and categorization of faces. It’s constant emphasis in arguments for sex separatism is a political choice influenced by one’s socialization, rather than one that can claim to neutrally reflect what the world is “really” like.
So too is the insistence on defining “woman” as “females.” Emphasizing a label that is ascribed to all at birth is also a political choice influenced by one’s socialization, (rather than one that can claim to neutrally reflect what the world is “really” like).
Sex, as much as gender, is socially and culturally imbued. That is not to say that sex does not exist or that there is no advantage to acknowledging that different bodies have different organs that require different care (a cervical exam v. a prostate exam, for example). This also does not mean that “female” doesn’t refer to a sex. It does. It also is still something that is ascribed to people at birth.
All of the terms we use and concepts and standards we apply to bodies are still influenced by patriarchal, white supremacist, and heteronormative standards, including the classification of sex. And we’re inherently biased about the level of differences when we talk about humans, as humans. The fact you perceive the differences you do doesn’t necessarily reflect our actual level of genetic and anatomical diversity, because those differences you perceive are a result of your environment.
Because it is a fact that humans today display relatively limited sexual dimorphism. It is also a fact that most of our sexual dimorphis cannot readily be seen, like the placement of hips or size of bronchi.
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I want to let you know that I hate you. I have not felt such disdain for someone since confronting the boy who was stalking me in secondary school.
I'd forgotten what hate feels like. I'd forgotten that hate is a silent rage; one that makes you go cold at your core.
For you to tell me this- privately message me this at that- after I explicitly told you that I was assaulted by an adult woman as a child in a room full of women and girls- is cruel.
My cheer leading coach held me down as I kicked and screamed for my mother. She stripped me bare while every woman and girl in the room stood around and watched. They did nothing. I was alone in a female-only space and violently stripped of my bodily autonomy, dignity, and integrity.
She looked me in the eye and tole me and told me it was okay because, "We all look the same. We're all female here."
She was a very real risk to my bodily autonomy and bodily integrity. I took my "chances," and I guess my "luck" just ran out faster than yours.
I'd try to suffocate myself to death a year later.
I was 7.
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luciusgerard · 2 years
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God. TERFs are just so, so stupid.
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redberryterf · 2 months
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"sex work is work" ok then go give a blow job to your uncle to earn some extra cash, jonathan
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anti-terf-posts · 5 months
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it's dangerous to go alone, take this!
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You say that separatism is about enforcing a material reality, but have you ever considered that our current segregation is because of a historical enforcement of a biologically nonexistent binary? Have you considered that our current segregation has less to do with our actual differences and, rather, has something to do with perceived and socially-constructed differences?
Have you considered how segregation between "classes" of people increases violence against the marginalized and places roadblocks on upward mobility?
Have you considered the fact that "women's" and "men's" bathrooms exist not because we have different anatomy, but as an arbitrary way and reason to exclude women from public spaces?
Segregated bathrooms didn't exist until the 1700s and they only became wide-spread during the industrial revolution as more women entered the workplace. But society was reluctant to integrate women into the public sphere. So, they introduced separate facilities for literally everything. Separate train cars, separate bathrooms, separate reading rooms, separate everything. Women were not allowed to use the man's public sphere or spaces labeled "men's" because they were not considered full people or citizens worthy of equal access and equal space.
Segregation of peoples on the basis of a supposed fundamental biology has always led to a system that is separate and unequal between two classes of people.
There is a reason "women's" bathrooms still have yet to adequately serve us and why it was so fundamental women were integrated into historically male-only spaces.
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hadeantaiga · 2 years
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Here's the thing:
Cis people really do feel like the gender they were assigned at birth.
Cis women really do feel like women, and cis men really do feel like men. They experience what we would call gender euphoria related to dressing and expressing themselves as their gender, whether that's in a femme way or a butch way or any other way. They feel joy and connection with their gender, with their sexuality and how it relates to their gender. They wear clothes, participate in activities, and express themselves in ways that affirm their gender identity.
Gender critical radfems and terfs will try to convince you that "no woman feels like a woman". They do this for several reasons. Firstly, it's to try to convince trans men they aren't trans, they're just women with no connection to womanhood because "no woman feels a connection to womanhood". They also do it to try to discredit trans women, by saying "If you feel like a woman, then you're clearly not a woman, because "woman" isn't a feeling, it's biology".
A lot of gender critical terfs and radfems claim they are "dysphoric women", and will try to convince you this is a normal state of womanhood. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no, that doesn't sound normal at all, actually. Most women do not secretly wish they could be men, or more androgynous, or have a penis. Most women don't define their lives through suffering - they love being women.
If womanhood - or manhood - is making you miserable... you might be trans, or you might be gender nonconforming. See if dressing a different way makes you feel a spark of joy and happiness - seek euphoria!
Gender should be joyous, not drudgery.
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Okay, so... not a hint of irony in the phrase "the reality of race," but here are some other things we can take away from this:
Intersectional feminism is a joke
Intersectional feminism is now a part of white feminism
People aren't using the word "woman" apparently
Only white people are Trans???
Radblr will always be overwhelmingly white because they aren't... race realists? Or, sorry... because they can't see the "reality of race."
I really hope she means "real" in the sense of "legally and socially classifying people by race has real-life effects on their health, livelihood, and sociopolitical situation" and NOT in the sense that there are inborn racial differences based on pseudoscientific biology and psychology.
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alicepooryorick · 1 year
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Normalize Neo-Pronouns so when I'm writing fanfic I don't end up with three people all with the same pronouns.
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