Rogue Trader - Heinrix romance - flirting differences (devil vs. closeness)
With Heinrix you can either flirt aggressively with him which will increase the "devil" counter or you are doing no or very light flirting which will increase the "closeness" counter. This affects in some cases his dialog.
Act 1 - First talk after he is recruited
Devil:
Two options for Devil - one at the start and one later. Both start the romance. The second one ("A little more..." excludes the closeness option.
Closeness:
Starts the romance. This option excludes the devil option "A little more...."
You can also start his romance by talking to him on the bridge after his recruitment. Both options start his romance but doesn't seem to count for the devil or closeness counter.
2. Act 2 - Footfall, when Heinrix returns (at the docks)
Both options can be taken, they do not exclude each other.
Devil:
Closeness:
3. Act 2 - Janus after dealing with the Governor / end of main quest
Devil:
With 3 devil points (or more) before starting the talk you get another response from him:
After this devil option there is another one available (excludes the closeness and corruption point options)
Closeness:
This option exludes the devil and corruption point options
There is also an option to increase his corruption counter (if you want him to leave the inquisition). It does not increase devil/closeness counters.
3. Act 2 - Conversation after his personal quest (in Kiava Gamma) is finished
Devil:
This line excludes the closeness option on top ("You can relate of course..."
The question regarding his romantic preferences has two versions.
If you have less than 3 devil points you get this answer:
If you have at least 3 devil points you get this one:
If you move to the regicide board you have additional options.
This one exludes the other two options that allow you to play regicide with him - so if you take this line you won't be able to do that unfortuantely.
If you have 4 or more devil points you can get a different ending talk with him for this scene (also works with "Running away, are you?")
Closeness:
First dialog option ("You can relate...") counts as closeness and unlocks other dialog for the second closeness option
The "Tell me a secret" line counts as closeness and the answer depends on if you took the first closeness option (in this case you get +2 closeness points)
or not (and you get only + 1 closeness point)
Another closeness option hides behind the question for his favourite food - if you use the smile option it increases the closeness counter
At the regicide board you can have a different ending dialog with him if you have at least 4 closeness points with him:
4. Act 2 - Dragonus ceremony talk
Devil:
Excludes the closeness option
And here seems to be a bug - kissing Heinrix does not increase the devil counter as one would expect, but instead holding his hands:
Closeness:
Excludes the first devil option
5. Act 3 - Start talking with him on the bridge about what happened at the ceremony
Devil:
There are only two devil responses here - I think this is another bug.
I will update this post if I find more, but the later (romance) scenes with him doesn't really seem to use the devil/closeness counters anymore.
Addition
-> You can use the toybox mod (on PC) to check the devil/closeness counters and to change them (or for other things, like seeing dialog options even if you do not meet the criteria or reset your skill points...)
(Mod on Nexusmods), install as instructed.
In game e.g. during dialog press CTRL + F10
For the devil/closeness counters go to "Search 'n Pick" tab and on the left side to "Flags". You can search for "Heinrix_R" to show his romance flags and change the values (don't forget to save before closing the toybox screen)
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Rogue Trader - Party Banter
Unfortunately, party banter in the game is kind of broken - it hardly triggers and I had several cases where the timing/trigger was bad as I had already clicked on an exit or other item what then interrupted the banter. There is also banter for events that haven't happened (yet) or with companions not even present (or recruited).
But there is quite a lot banter in voiced and unvoiced form in the game.
For the voiced banter there are two videos online that you can find here:
Part 1
Part 2
I have gone through the videos and banters and wrote down the timestamps and dialog that features Heinrix (as speaker or if companions speak about him).
You can find it here. (-> opens excel in google drive)
Please keep in mind that I am not a native speaker and while I used the help of (generated) subtitles there were words that I did not really understand (especially with Ulfar). I added a ? in these cases.
Still, it should give you an overview about the (voiced) banter available and where to jump to in the video if you want to listen to it.
There is of course the unvoiced banter too, but that is not featured here.
There is a lot of romance related banter in video 1 and more act/main story related ones in video 2.
There is also a mentioning of absent Achilleas, a master of ceremonies with memory issues, Abelard scolding Heinrix for being interested in the RT, sassy Heinrix everywhere...
Some examples:
Party banter video 2 - time 00:08:09
Ulfar: *growling at Heinrix*
Heinrix:
Thank you, my Lord Ulfar. I'm in good health and I hope you are as well. I am pleased that we are starting to get along.
Party banter video 2 - time 00:41:40
Marazhai:
My mere presence makes you shake with rage – I do not even have to do anything to you... delightful.
Heinrix:
Yes, I … you... damn it! I'm so angry, I can't even speak! Enough! I'll deal with you later.
(-> the VA is evenf more incredible here, you can hear him shaking)
Regarding Heinrix in Commoragh / healing:
Party banter video 2 - time 00:24:32
Heinrix:
Lady Cassia, there is no need to look at me like that. I assure you, I am perfectly fine.
Cassia:
Do I not deserve the truth from you even in this place master van Calox? I can see the flashes of scarlet that accompany your every movement.
Party banter video 2 - time 00:35:12
Jae:
Why are you limping like that? Haven't you healed yourself?
Heinrix:
It is a long process. I could try to hide my infirmity I suppose, but I'm not as accomplished an actor as you are, Shereen
Party banter video 2 - time 00:35:25
Idirah:
Those crazy screams in the lab the whole time I was there, that was you, wasn't it iceman? How did you survive that?
Heinrix:
My fervent desire to boil a few hundred xenos in their skin on my way out of here, proved stronger than death.
So, while he says he healed himself and is fine, he really isn't...
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Can’t stop thinking about the sad acolyte man, so need to put my thoughts into text. Some spoilers, be warned.
How much guilt and shame do you think Heinrix carries around?
He puts great effort into his appearance. He uses his powers to better serve the Imperium. It makes carrying out his orders easier, his body as much a useful tool as his mind. No need for it to be inefficient. Broken or maimed.
And I’m sure some part of him feels he needs to do it just for himself, too. A thing he allows himself to feel more…human. That selfish notion of using his cursed powers to feel a bit better. Normal. Regain some of the autonomy he was stripped off over the years.
Or how lonely do you think he actually is?
Behind the impenetrable barrier that comes with his rosette, a carefully practiced demeanor and cold, hard stare, he got accustomed to being distant, both mentally and physically.
But it’s just this - practiced. Someone he needed to become in order to be useful. Somehow I doubt that made him a lot of friends. We know about Emelina, and we also know how this ended. I was talking with a friend about this a few days ago and the consensus was that even she didn’t trust him 100%, thinking he’s just as brainwashed as the rest of Calcazar’s acolytes.
And how that lack of trust led to the absolutely worst heart-wrenching moment between once close friends.
And he’s literally next in line to become one of the most powerful men in the Expanse. That’s a lot of pressure and responsibility to carry all by yourself. I know that “powerful people don’t have friends, just servants”, but…it’s such a miserable existence to have.
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