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gordoncstewart · 1 year
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The Benefit of the Doubt
The Benefit of the Doubt
Dismay and a wider view Stepping back from my dismay that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has not yet indicted Donald Trump brings into view the wider context that suggests good reason to give AG Merrick Garland and the DOJ the benefit of the doubt. In the executive branch of federal government, the Department of Justice is responsible for protecting and enforcing “the rule of law” but the DOJ…
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kp777 · 2 years
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In the past 48 hours:
- the trump org was convicted on 17 counts of fraud and tax evasion
- Special counsel Jack smith subpoenaed multiple state officials for their communications with Donald trump
- Trump’s lawsuit requesting a special master has been rejected. He will not appeal, meaning the DOJ now has access to all of the material it seized from Mar A Lago as of Dec. 9th
- the January 6th committe is preparing to release it’s final report on Dec. 21st. It is expected to include a referral for criminal charges against Donald trump, and they will also turn over all of their evidence to the DOJ
- the DOJ has asked a judge to hold the trump legal team be in contempt for refusing to affirm to the court that all classified material has been returned
- a company hired by Donald Trump’s lawyers did a sweep of all of his properties, finding additional classified material in a storage unit
- a congressional investigation has been opened into Jared Kushner for alleged tax violations in regards to his property in New York
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qqueenofhades · 2 years
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Trump has NOT been having a good day...I love it 😈😈😈
I mean, let's recap:
Got his case in front of an absolute sycophantic toady of a Trump judge;
She basically told him she would do anything he wanted;
He wished for her to appoint a special master, aka a real judge;
Real judge was the Most Unimpressed, basically ordered them all to get off his lawn;
Guess that worked out for you guys huh?
Meanwhile DOJ appealed said toady Trump judge's ruling to the 11th Circuit;
The 11th Circuit is also a Trump-stacked ultra conservative circuit;
11th Circuit told Team Cheeto and his band of comedy lawyers to again get lost and reauthorized the DOJ to continue using the classified documents in its investigation of Trump for violations of the Espionage Act;
11th Circuit also basically announced toady judge's conclusion was a pile of hot baloney;
NY State AG Letitia James announced a 222-page complaint/lawsuit against Trump, the Trump Org, and the Trumpspawn (Donnie Jr., Eric!, and Ivanka) for like, so much financial fraud;
This included criminal referrals to the Southern District of New York and to the IRS;
Trump meanwhile is claiming that, no joke, he can declassify documents by just thinking about it;
This is known as the Secret Telepathic Universal Pre-emptive Intelligence Declassification (S.T.U.P.I.D) defense;
And yet, despite like, half a dozen high level criminal investigations, somehow nobody has arrested this orange shitstain yet and he is free to lark around and hold literal Nazi rallies;
But no. It was not a good day to be a Trump. It really was not.
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meandmybigmouth · 1 year
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Donald Trump was slammed for another round of threats and incitement Saturday after evoking last year’s Jan. 6 insurrection — and then telling his followers it’s now time for the FBI and Justice Department “thugs” to be “dealt with.”
Critics considered the threatening messages to be a clear dog whistle to his followers, many of whom are armed. Some 62% of gun owners voted for Trump in the 2016 election. And his Oath Keeper supporters had a “massive stockpile” of weapons stashed in the Washington, D.C., area last Jan. 6 to support Trump in the event he tried to seize control of the government and remain in power, according to trial evidence.
Trump baselessly insisted in a Truth Social post that the FBI was “absolutely” involved in a “coordinated effort to change election results” to make him a loser. That justified last year’s violent Jan. 6 “protest” at the U.S. Capitol, he insisted, even though nearly 1,000 rioters have been indicted for crimes related to the insurrection that day.
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Now, Trump is urging his followers on Truth Social that the “weaponized thugs and tyrants” in the FBI and DOJ “must be dealt with.”
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Trump supporters on Truth Social responded by blasting the FBI as the “gestapo” and members of “organized crime,” which could put agents lives in jeopardy among Trump acolytes.
Conde Nast legal affairs editor Luke Zaleski called Trump’s brutal message the “exact speech he gave on Jan. 6.”
“He’s continuing the rhetoric that incites violence against the United States and his thugs know what ‘must be dealt with’ means,” Zaleski tweeted.
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The group “Republicans against Trumpism” urged readers in a tweet to imagine the outraged response had former President Barack Obama called on his followers to take action against the DOJ and FBI.
Critics believe Trump’s vile attacks reveal how terrified the former president is about the looming prospect of criminal indictments against him. The House Jan. 6th committee is considering making at least three criminal referrals against Trump to the Justice Department, including incitement of insurrection, obstruction and conspiracy to defraud the United States government.
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The judgment of history. ::  December 19, 2022
Robert B. Hubbell
         On Monday, December 19, 2022, Americans will witness history in the making. A congressional committee will recommend that the DOJ pursue criminal proceedings against a former president for engaging in insurrection to stop the peaceful transfer of power. The recommendation will be based on an exhaustive, transparent, bipartisan investigation that unfolded in public. Republicans boycotted the committee after GOP leadership unsuccessfully attempted to appoint participants in the insurrection to the body investigating their crimes.
         The criminal referrals should not be cause for celebration or feelings of vindication. Rather, they should be a cause for hope and increased resolve that our experiment in democracy will endure despite the actions of faithless servants and aspiring tyrants. The United States of America is bigger than Trump and his skulk of cowards. It will outlast them, hold them to account, and subject them to the judgment of history.
The criminal referrals and findings of the January 6th Committee are critical steps in setting the record straight for future generations. The names of the insurrectionists will be memorized by schoolchildren learning about dark passages in our nation’s history: Benedict Arnold, Aaron Burr, Jefferson Davis, Donald Trump, Jim Jordan, Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, . . . .
         Sadly, the insurrection continues to this day as the GOP seeks to shield members of its party who remain in Congress after they betrayed the Constitution. No Republican member of Congress agreed to appear before the Committee to provide crucial evidence in one of the most important investigations in our history. The recalcitrant members of Congress continue to violate their oaths every minute they obfuscate, impede, and distort the work of the Committee. They deserve to be expelled from Congress. Indeed, the Committee may recommend discipline or criminal referrals for members who failed to comply with lawful subpoenas issued by the Committee, The Week, Schiff says Jan. 6 committee deciding ‘appropriate remedy’ for uncooperative GOP lawmakers.
         In a depraved act of supreme disrespect and partisanship, a “shadow” committee of Republicans will issue a “counter-report” to the official report of the January 6th Committee. That report will seek to lay blame for security lapses at the Capitol for the insurrection. See Axios, Scoop: GOP shadow committee re-emerges for Jan. 6 report. The response by law enforcement and intelligence agencies is a legitimate area of investigation—and will be covered in the January 6th Committee’s report. But the point of the “shadow committee’s” separate report is to confuse and dilute media coverage of the findings in the J6 Report. Sadly, many members of the media will give “equal time” to a “PR stunt” by insurrectionists and the serious and sober effort by the J6 Committee to understand the root cause of the insurrection.
         Trump is acting like a wounded and cornered animal. He is lashing out on his vanity media platform, resorting to the language of incitement that ignited the insurrection. See HuffPo, Donald Trump Evokes Jan. 6 Insurrection, Tells Backers It’s Time To ‘Deal With’ FBI, DOJ “Thugs”. It is doubtful that any other president in American history will ever be credibly accused of insurrection by a congressional committee. Trump is entering a league of one.
         The political backlash against the Committee and its members will be savage. Kevin McCarthy has vowed to remove Adam Schiff from the House Intelligence Committee in retribution. Republican leaders of all stripes will lie, distort, and deflect. The tired refrain of “What about Hillary’s emails?” pales in comparison to charges of insurrection, obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, and conspiracy to defraud the United States (i.e., the fake electors scheme).
         For those who care about defending democracy, the vote of the Committee on December 19, 2022, will be momentous. To the extent you can, ignore the noise and focus on the rare achievement that is the sign of a functioning democracy—an effort to hold a former leader to account for his crimes in office. Whatever happens, the judgment of the January 6th Committee will be inscribed in stone as the official history of the unsuccessful insurrection that culminated in the events of January 6th, 2021.
[Robert B. Hubbell Newsletter]
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pdamerica · 1 year
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Referrals to the DOJ were made today for his crimes of obstructing an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to make false statements, and insurrection. Nobody is above the law. It’s time for justice.
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Criminal Referrals...
Just thinking back to the hearing earlier.
At the end Velociraptor Cheney said they were going to make criminal referrals for SEVERAL PEOPLE.  Then she named the DOJ appointee flunkies Trump tried to install to kill it all.
We’re nearly there, folks...today was big.  Sure, those of us who have been conscious of what has been happening already knew most all of it, but today was pretty damned monumental as far as it goes.
Not only did they say they were making criminal referalls for saveral people, not only did they subpoena drumpf, Chairman Bennie Thompson also said they were going to keep investigating and would schedule more hearings.
You know that there are going to be even more people willing to come out and help damn trump to the hell he deserves, especially now. 
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foreverlogical · 1 year
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Congress has never recommended that a former U.S. president be charged with a crime before.
But former President Donald Trump just shattered that historical precedent. 
The committee investigating the insurrection of Jan. 6, 2021 on Monday voted to refer Trump to the Department of Justice to be charged with multiple crimes relating to the deadly riot at the Capitol and his attempts to hold power despite losing the 2020 election. The suggested charges include conspiracy, false statements, and alleged Trump’s role in inciting and providing support to the violent mob.
Any decision to charge Trump will now fall to the Department of Justice. And while most legal experts say the committee’s referral is unlikely to have a big impact on the department’s thinking, the vote marks a historic moment in the history of the American presidency—and yet another milestone in Trump’s epic stretch of dubious distinctions. 
Trump is already known to history for being the first president to ever have been impeached by the House of Representatives twice. He also committed actions that, as detailed in investigator Robert Mueller’s final report, would have left him susceptible to being charged with obstruction of justice if he had not been the president at the time (and therefore protected by a DOJ policy against charging sitting presidents), according to a letter signed by over 1,000 former prosecutors. 
Trump has lost the best tools he used to deflect prosecutors during his presidency, and investigations are now swirling around him in multiple jurisdictions. The DOJ appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith to investigate Trump for his role in Jan. 6, and also whether Trump should be charged for taking documents bearing classification markings from the White House to his private Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach. 
In Georgia, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is investigating whether Trump and his allies should be charged for attempting to flip his 2020 electoral defeat in that state into a victory.
Now, the question becomes whether Trump will achieve the ultimate accolade of his recent trajectory: Become the first former president in U.S. history to be charged with a crime. 
The charges
The Jan. 6 committee said evidence exists to charge Trump with multiple crimes. One of the simplest is obstructing an official proceeding. 
The committee accused Trump of attempting to “corruptly” interfere with the Congressional certification of Biden’s victory, which was taking place on Jan. 6 when the mob attacked the Capitol. Such a charge would put Trump squarely in line with rank-and-file rioters, some 300 of whom have been charged with attempting to obstruct the official proceeding. 
But the committee also argued Trump should be charged with a far more obscure crime: The law that makes it illegal to incite or provide aid or comfort to an insurrection. 
That crime hasn’t been prosecuted since the U.S. Civil War, and legal experts say that makes it relatively less likely to be brought against a former president than some of the other potential charges he’s facing (including the more straightforward Mar-a-Lago documents case).
The committee also argued Trump committed a crime known as “conspiracy to defraud the United States.” 
That crime involves an agreement to obstruct a function of the U.S. government, such as collecting taxes. In this case, however, the accusation is about attempts to thwart the certification of an election. 
The committee also pointed to a statute that makes it illegal to use phoney documents to make false representations to officials. The committee said the plot to submit slates of fake electors to the National Archives, in an attempt to create the basis for declaring Trump the winner of the election, appears to have broken this law. 
“The evidence is clear that President Trump personally participated in a scheme to have the Trump electors meet, cast votes, and send their votes to the joint session of Congress in several states that Vice President Biden won,” the summary of the report states. 
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qqueenofhades · 2 years
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genuine question, what’s even the point of the 1/6 committee subpoenaing trump? we all know he’s not gonna show and the gop is likely to shut down the committee if they retake the house next month, wouldn’t that negate the subpoena? it just feels like a largely symbolic gesture.
Jamie Raskin (member of the committee) basically said during his interview earlier that they have no expectation that Trump will honor the subpoena, and that when he doesn't do so, they will take it as proof of negative/deceptive intent in re: Trump's actions on January 6. And then, while Raskin didn't spell this out explicitly, the committee will make the official criminal referral to the DOJ because Trump will have offered specific and unambiguous evidence of said criminality. So while yes, it is symbolic, it is also something they did knowing Trump would refuse and that would pull the legal noose tight as a result. It also shows that as the Committee has repeatedly emphasised, they're going after Trump himself and not just his lackeys, so that's a good thing. When Trump defies the subpoena, that will in itself be a criminal act (which they're currently in the process of sending Bannon to jail for).
This also came on the day that SCOTUS unanimously, of all the shocking things, refused to stay the 11th Circuit's order to restore DOJ access to classified docs taken in the Mar-a-Lago raid. Yep, 9-0. When Trump can't even get help from his token toadies Thomas and Alito, not to mention the three losers he appointed to the bench, I would say that things are very bad for him in Legal Mudville.
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crinosg · 1 year
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nodynasty4us · 1 year
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Opening statement from Raskin:
Raskin recommends criminal referrals.
Don't send foot soldiers to jail but give ring masters a free pass.
1. Obstruction of an official proceeding. Criminal referral of Trump, Eastman, and others.
2. Conspiracy to defraud the United States. Trump, Eastman, and others.
Trump did not do it alone. Report describes co-conspirators in detail.
Some possible co-conspirators refused to answer committees questions. DoJ can investigate further.
3. Conspiracy to make a false statement to the federal government. This is the fake electors scheme. Trump and others.
4. Incite, assist, or aid and comfort an insurrection. Enough evidence for criminal referral of Trump.
Other statutes could also be relevant. DoJ could investigate Trump and others for additional charges.
Refer 4 members of congress to House ethics committee for failure to comply with subpoenas.
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2022/12/19
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The Jan. 6th committee just referred four criminal charges against Trump to the Department of Justice, including inciting an insurrection! And they referred four members of Congress (incl. House GOP leader McCarthy and Jim Jordan) to the House Ethics Committee for failure to comply with subpoenas!
Things are not fun for Republicans right now.
I do want to point out, the referral is not an order for the DoJ to prosecute these charges, so this is a symbolic move that's about as strong as the Committee can manage.
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