#omg i cqnt believe i forgot pro/anti discourse too theyre really bad about all of these on both sides

[gibbearish]

ik i talk abt high control groups kinda often but i do encourage anyone involved in discourse in any capacity to watch folding ideas' "this is financial advice" video, because a lot of what he says about the gamestop apes being a self-organizing high control group imo also explains the more toxic discourse tendencies, and i feel like most discussion around high-control groups on here focuses on the tradtional kind that has one or a few distinct leaders which makes it harder to draw parallels between the signs. so i think its important to point out that these kinds of groups can still create that same energy as a unit even if there isn't one specific person calling the shots

#origibberish #namely the signs ive noticed most over the years are obviously internal jargon‚ thats kind of a given when working with microlabels #but see also transmed/truscum/trender/tucute/acey/theyfab/transandrophobia truther/etc etc etc #ideas being boiled down to short gotchas that just get ping ponged back and forth #see The Entirely Of Any Ace Discourse Argument for that but again see 'theyre just trans mras' #and the tendancy for members to turn on anyone who steps out of line even a little #omg i cqnt believe i forgot pro/anti discourse too theyre really bad about all of these on both sides #oh or another example would be steven universe discourse #like 'it endorses letting fascists off the hook' would just get thrown around as if it was undisputed fact despite there being MILES #of shit going on in the background to get to that #anyways. yeah 👍 keeping this in mind has already made a huge difference in how i engage in online discussions #and has also been a good rule of thumb for when to Stop engaging with someone #where if theyre displaying these signs thank you i do not want to be part of this #and like yes that goes for people youre arguing with but it obviously /ESPECIALLY/ goes for people you like #if you have a friend who you feel like you cant say anything that disagrees with them or theyll freak out at you. you dont have to keep #being friends with them. if being around someone makes you uncomfortable and you constantly find yourself making excuses for why #they treat you the way they do then thats a bad sign #and like with that i really hope ive managed to yknow. create a nice space here where ppl feel safe bringing stuff up? #idk