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Spain doesn't want a Basque or Catalan NT because they know they would lose the best players and are jealous 😏😏😏
Kaixo anon!
All players are forced to play for the Spanish NT if they're chosen. Yes, you read right: forced. If you reject the post, you can be fined from 3,000€ to 30,000€ and you can even lose your professional player license.
That's why we have much respect for these three men that said no to the Spanish NT:
Inaxio Kortabarria (Euskal Herria)
Nacho (Galiza)
And Oleguer Presas (Catalunya)
#euskadi#euskal herria#basque country#pais vasco#pays basque#football#spain#spanish nt#inaxio kortabarria#nacho#oleguer presas#anons#sports#galiza#catalunya
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Hi! I was wondering if Alexia Putellas ever played for the Catalan NT, and if it's true that the reason why there's a "law" that says footballers in Spain can't refuse to show up for a Spain NT game if they are called is to prevent Galician, Basque and Catalans from refusing to represent Spain? :o
Yes, Alexia Putellas has played with the Catalan National Team (source). It's difficult to find information on the Catalan NT because it's not recognised by FIFA (because the Spanish Football Federation and the Supreme Sports Council of the Spanish Government blocked the request) and so it plays few games, only with the NTs of other places that aren't recognised by FIFA. And on top of that, women's football was barely ever even mentioned before 4 years ago or so, and now only every so often.
The Spanish Sport Law includes the fact that it's mandatory to play for the Spanish NT if you're called (Catalan political parties are trying to abolish this part of the Law). Yes, no need to add "" to law, because it's an actual law.
However, this hasn't always been followed by male athletes. For example, in 2005 the Catalan footballer Oleguer Presas was called to play in the Spanish NT and he met up with the coach to explain that he refuses because he's an independentist and that the thinks the Spanish NT should instead hire someone who wants to be there. The coach understood that having a player who actively doesn't want to be there won't result in an effective team, so he didn't call him. Presas wasn't punished because he acted to prevent breaking the law: he met up with the coach immediately when he announced he wanted to call him for the NT, before the NT made the official call, so he wasn't technically breaking the law because the players hadn't been officially called. The same thing was done by the Galician player Nacho Fernández in 1995, he spoke to the coach preventively, before being officially called, and convinced him to not issue the official calling.
The most famous recent case was in 2018, Gerard Piqué also refused to play with the Spanish NT. After he had played with them for years and got yelled insults and Catalanophobic hate at the stadiums, he announced he would not play for Spain any more.
But both Presas and Piqué were male football players who won the male Champions League with Barça. Male football players of the top level are already paid a lot and have their own attention and work future outside of the NTs, while female football players don't get the security of keeping this as a job with enough payment nor a stable future, so it's more difficult for them to have the conditions to be able to stand up to the NT and the Federation (which makes them even braver for having stood up against the coach's abuse and later also against Rubiales' forced kiss and sexual harassment and the federation for defending him).
Plus, Presas and Fernández (I'm unsure of what Piqué did) convinced the coach not to officially call them in the first place. The women's NT coach will not be convinced in the current situation, so the female players will officially be called and if they continue to refuse they'll be harshly punished. The Federation can't let them get away, they are standing up for themselves and for the rights of women athletes in front of the world. In the eyes of many directives of the Federation, women are supposed to accept that men can do anything they want to women, in fact, we should be thankful that they let us play football at all! They're going to be punished for rebelling.
Catalan male sportsmen have also been heavily punished for refusing to play for Spain. The most notable case is the hockey team. Hockey is quite popular in Catalonia but not in Spain, there are many hockey teams all around Catalonia and many people play it, with many of these teams having become very good. In 2004, the Catalan NT was allowed to compete in a Men's B World Championship in Macau (btw, Catalonia won the championship), because Catalonia was in process of being reviewed to be allowed or not into the International Federation (FIRS) and had received a provisional licence. After this, FIRS denied Catalonia access to the Federation so they could never play again. But anyway, in this context, the Men's B World Championship and the top level Men's World Championship were being held at the same time. The Catalan players who had been called for the Spanish NT explained they would not play for Spain in the World Championship and instead they would play for Catalonia in the B Championship (which, again, they won). As a result, these players (including Ivan Tibau, Jaume Llavarola and David Cáceres) were expelled from the Spanish Hockey Federation and weren't allowed to play any more.
To go back to the women's football case. After the Sports Law states that it's mandatory to play for a Spanish NT, each sport federation has its own internal rules about how they'll deal with a person who refuses. Here's what the Spanish Football Federation's Code of Discipline says about it (source):
[The football players who refuse to play for the Spanish NT] will be sanctioned with a fine ranging from 3,006 to 30,051€ and with one or many of the following sanctions:
— Being barred from occupying a position in the federation's organization, or having their licence suspended or removed, for a time period of 2 to 5 years.
— Deprivation of licence, in a definitive way; this sanction can only be imposed in an exceptional way for relapse or very grave infractions.
If they remove their license, they can't play anymore. And that's a huge fine (30,000€ = more than 31,700 US $), female football players don't get paid that much.
The Spanish Sports Law has already been used to punish national minorities (Catalans) who were dissidents, and the same threat is used against women for their dissidence. Being treated like that and then being forced to play for them sure will make you do your best for that team, won't it?/s :') But after all, that's no difference from what being forced to be part of Spain is like.
#esports#actualitat#ask#sports#spain national team#spanish national team#futbol#spain nt#football#soccer#alexia putellas#futfem#women's football#catalonia#barça#fc barcelona#hockey#selecció catalana#la roja#spain
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Have you ever heard of Oleguer Presas? Genuinely one of my favourite Barça players, in due part because of his bravery and staunch pro-Catalan sympathies, as well as the fact that he never hid from his beliefs even when faced with controversy. He published a book, Camí d'Itaca, back in 2006 and I just recently read it.
Hiii…..No!!! I will look him up! How was the book?
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Que es un IDOLO DE ORO?..alguien q se dedica al Mundo del ESPECTA_CULO o del ENTRETENI_MIENTO..y que gana más de un MILLON DE DOLORES digo DOLARES al año con una VIVIENDA y UN ELEMENTO DE TRANSPORTE aparte
..es decir..como el GAFADO Marc Márquez..gafado o afortunado xq con sus innumerables caídas podía estar MUERTO como por ejemplo Luis Salom alias EL MEXICANO
Por cierto..CRISTO SALVA..un IDOLO DE ORO, NO..y como SALVO recomiendo tener en casa una BALSA O ALGO QUE FLOTE
Por cierto..hubo un SALVA que jugo en la Selección ESPAÑOLA q fue muy polémico xq lo consideraban FASCISTA [su padre era piloto MILITAR ] y tuvo un enfrenta_miento con el jugador independentista de FC BARCELONA OLEGUER "PRESAS" [como puede acabar algunas que yo se y como en el futuro meteré a toda PUTA FUMATA]..x lo q p.e. Los ultras del CELTA o CELTARRAS le cantaban SALVA BALLESTA UN TIRO EN LA TESTA O ETA MATALO..se tuvo q bajar el sueldo a la mitad en el MALAGA xq estaba en proceso concursal..luego se declaró APOLITICO [pues prohibire la POLITICA Y LA RELIGION]
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The faces of Spanish football: The militarist who terrorized defenses - Salva Ballesta
Politics plays a huge role in football. Sometimes it's subtle, hidden, almost innate.
Other times, it's laid bare, in the open, for everyone to see.
In February 2013, Salva Ballesta was on his way to Vigo - Celta were rumored to have struck a deal with him to become Abel Resino's assistant, and Salva have just reached Madrid when his phone rang.
It was Celta Vigo's president, with some bad news.
Celta's notoriously left-wing base, who greeted him with threats and insults upon his arrival at the Balaídos stadium three years before, had pressured the club to not go forward with the deal.
"I've never spoken about politics, I've always said that I feel Spanish."
Salva Ballesta once said that he was apolitical. And maybe he is right - maybe it isn't political to be nationalistic. Maybe it isn't political to be Spanish.
Maybe it is Spanish of Salva, born to a military family, to say that he would be the first to serve in the Iraq War if conscripted by then prime minister José María Aznar. Or to be a patron of his hometown's military helicopter school. Or even to have your idols be Francoist fighter pilot Joaquín García Morato, Luftwaffe aviator Hans-Ulrich Rudel and Antonio Tejero, leader of the failed "23-F" right-wing coup. Or to say that he wouldn't even consider playing for an autonomous community team.
But is it really Spanish to suggest sending the armed forces into the Basque Country to deal with the ETA? Or, when sent off for Málaga, to shout "¡Que viva España, hijos de puta!" (Long live Spain, sons of bitches!), to Osasuna fans who support Basque independence - something which prompted fans of even bitter rivals Real Sociedad to support Osasuna and display a banner reading "Salva, muérete" (Salva, die) when he visited their Anoeta Stadium? Or to say that "to be anti-madridista makes you a less intelligent person"? Or to say that he had more respect for "dog crap" than for outspoken left-winger and Barcelona defender Oleguer Presas?
Maybe it is - maybe it isn't. Nevetheless, Salva made very few friends for what many, contrary to his claims, perceived to be far-right politics.
But one thing was abundantly clear - whatever his politics, his controversy off the pitch was in stark contrast to his performances on the pitch. For 90 minutes each week, media frenzy was replaced by media appreciation.
To put it simply - he was unstoppable.
It was the 1999-00 season, and Real Madrid were under pressure. Michel Salgado and Iván Helguera arrived to supposedly bolster an embarrassingly leaky defense, and the signings of Steve McManaman and Geremi were overshadowed by that of Nicolas Anelka, the hottest young striker in Europe, who looked set to provide genuine competition for Raúl and Fernando Morientes up front. But a horrific start to the season meant that Real Madrid were at one point relegation contenders. On the 14th matchday, Real Zaragoza had come to the Bernabéu and demolished Real Madrid 5-1 - the biggest away win all season - leaving Real Madrid in 17th place in the league.
Towards the end of the season, Real Madrid appeared to have sorted their defensive problems out at last and had been on an 11-match unbeaten run in the league while progressing to the Champions League semi-finals with victory over holders Manchester United.
But then relegation-threatened Racing Santander came to the Bernabéu. And two strikes from Salva, resulting in a 4-2 win, ended Real Madrid's title hopes for good.
Salva finished the season with 27 goals - winning the Pichichi.
Salva was born in Zaragoza, but rose through Sevilla's youth ranks. His first full season with the club was the 1996-97 season, in which he scored 12 goals but the club was relegated - he stayed on for another season before moving to Racing Santander.
That historic season prompted rumors - big moves to the Premier League or the Serie A were widely touted. However, he resigned an almost certain big-money move for a move to second division Atlético Madrid. Recently relegated, the club desperately wanted - and needed - a return to the elite. And while Atlético marginally failed to reach the promotion places, Salva won his second consecutive Pichichi, scoring 21 goals in the 2000-01 season.
His story thereafter is short of Pichichi's but isn't short of success - a La Liga title with Valencia in the 2001-02 season, 18 goals with Málaga in the 2003-04 season - including a hat-trick in a 5-1 league home crushing of Barcelona, and helping Málaga return to La Liga in 2008.
They are linked to the ultra-right movement of Málaga 1487 - an anti-immigrant group whose name commemorates the year in which the Catholic Kings expelled the Muslims from the city. They have repeatedly physically attacked many members of left-wing ultra groups, especially Sevilla's Biris Norte. They celebrated their 20th anniversary with a Nazi rock concert. They are, unsurprisingly, right-wing ultras.
And they, the Frente Bokerón, chanted his name. He was their unofficial representative - and they made him feel at home.
In the summer of 2007, when Málaga were going through bankruptcy and his high salary was proving to be a deterrent, Salva was faced with a choice - either leave, or stay and reduce his wages. The previous six months, he had chosen to leave by playing for Levante on loan. And he had to choose again.
This time, he chose to stay. His salary of €1.2 million was slashed to almost half (€650,000), and Málaga were promoted that year. After Salva retired in 2010 with Segunda outfit Albacete, it was Málaga - who hadn't forgotten his service and what he'd done for the club - who offered him a position as a youth coach, alongside former teammate Francesc Arnau.
And in the summer of 2013, when he was refused the Celta job, he was appointed as the new manager of Málaga's reserves Atlético Malagueño in the Tercera División. His dream is to manage Málaga one day - the club that made the Zaragoza native feel at home.
One day...
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“La selección me genera rechazo y aversión por lo que representa”
El exbarcelonista Oleguer Presas (Sabadell, 1980) asegura que en el fútbol "siempre" ha intentado "estar comprometido y dar el 100%", pero admite no sentir "este compromiso" para una selección (como la española) que no le representa "de ninguna...
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Empieza el juicio a Oleguer Presas por el ‘caso Bemba’ https://t.co/spBUddpdBA https://t.co/rEgE0phvJi
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Khát khao độc lập của người Catalan đốt cháy La Liga
Căng thẳng leo thang tại xứ Catalan và khắp đất nước Tây Ban Nha trước thềm cuộc trưng cầu dân ý về việc ly khai được tổ chức trong ngày hôm nay. Âu lo có, hy vọng có và hận thù cũng có, xứ Catalan giờ đây không thể dừng lại. Chính phủ Tây Ban Nha huy động cảnh sát trên khắp mọi miền để sẵn sàng can thiệp, nỗ lực ngăn chặn cuộc trưng cầu dân ý cho nền độc lập của xứ Catalan.
Tuy nhiên, hàng triệu người Catalan quyết tâm đi bỏ phiếu để tự quyết định tương lai của chính họ và quê hương. Rất nhiều người không ủng hộ chuyện ly khai, song họ vẫn muốn đi bỏ phiếu. Và cách tiếp cận có phần nặng nề và cực đoan của chính phủ có thể sẽ dẫn đến phản ứng tiêu cực từ người dân, chẳng hạn bạo loạn trên đường phố Barcelona và các khu đô thị khác của xứ Catalan.
Hiện các cuộc biểu tình ôn hòa đã diễn ra tại Barcelona, nhưng những người theo chủ nghĩa cực đoan và cánh tả nhiều khả năng sẽ thực hiện những cuộc tuần hành xuất phát từ thủ phủ xứ Catalan lan đi khắp châu Âu. Trong khi đó, những người Tây Ban Nha thuộc phe cánh hữu cũng tụ họp tại thủ đô Madrid vào hôm thứ Bảy để bày tỏ quan điểm phản đối trưng cầu dân ý.
Mặc dù có thể Catalan vẫn tiếp tục là một bộ phận của quốc gia Tây Ban Nha thống nhất sau cuộc khủng hoảng chính trị không tưởng đang xảy ra tuy nhiên phản ứng của các bên quá chậm trễ. Một lời kêu gọi đối thoại chỉ mới được đưa ra và các bên xem như không nghe thấy.
Người Catalan tuần hành đòi độc lập
Nou Camp, nơi duy nhất người Catalan có thể nói tiếng nói của riêng họ hay thể hiện lòng tự tôn dân tộc mà không sợ bị trả thù, ngay cả dưới chế độ độc tài của tướng Franco trước đây, sẽ tổ chức trận đấu giữa Barca và Las Palmas đúng ngày trưng cầu dân ý, trong bối cảnh căng thẳng leo thang.
Dự kiến phút thứ 17 của trận đấu, hàng ngàn vạn người hâm mộ Barca sẽ đồng thanh hô vang khẩu hiệu đòi lại độc lập cho xứ Catalan, điều đã được thực hiện vào tuần trước trong trận derby xứ Catalan với Girona. Người Catalan chọn phút 17 để nhắc nhớ thời điểm quê hương họ rơi vào tay người Tây Ban Nha vào năm 1714.
Hơn 300 năm đã trôi qua, nhưng khát khao giành độc lập tự chủ từ tay Tây Ban Nha của người Catalan chưa bao giờ nguội lạnh, thậm chí chưa bao giờ mãnh liệt như bây giờ. Trên mặt trận thể thao, tất cả các đội bóng xứ Catalan ngoại trừ... Espanyol đều có những hoạt động hỗ trợ công cuộc trưng cầu dân ý hôm nay.
Khẩu hiệu quen thuộc trên khán đài Nou Camp
Bên cạnh đó, những người Catalan có tầm ảnh hưởng lớn trong làng bóng đá cũng bày tỏ sự ủng hộ mạnh mẽ cuộc trưng cầu dân ý. Presas Oleguer, cựu cầu thủ Barca từng từ chối khoác áo đội tuyển Tây Ban Nhà và hiện là một chính trị gia ở Catalan đã chỉ trích Tây Ban Nha là một "quốc gia quân phiệt. Joan Laporta, cựu chủ tịch Barca thời Oleguer chơi bóng thì lên tiếng kêu gọi người Catalan giành độc lập.
Thông qua mạng xã hội, trung vệ Gerard Pique chia sẻ: "Chúng ta hãy thể hiện quan điểm cá nhân một cách ôn hòa. Họ không cho chúng ta đi bỏ phiếu, chúng ta sẽ thể hiện sự đoàn kết và vẫn tham gia bỏ phiếu". HLV Pep Guardiola tuy đang thưởng thức men say chiến thắng trước Chelsea vẫn không quên ngày trọng đại của quê hương.
Vị chiến lược gia này tuyên bố trên truyền thông: "Hôm nay là ngày của dân chủ. Hy vọng người dân quê tôi có thể sử dụng công cụ mạnh nhất họ có trong tay, đó là những lá phiếu để kiến tạo một ngày mai tốt đẹp hơn cho quê hương".
Nếu Catalan ly khai, hệ lụy xảy đến với Tây Ban Nha thực sự khủng khiếp. Chỉ xem xét trên bình diện bóng đá, nếu Barcelona chuyển sang tham dự Ngoại hạng Anh hay Ligue 1 như đồn đoán, La Liga còn lại gì ngoài Real Madrid? Sức hấp dẫn sẽ mất đi quá nửa và giải đấu này đứng trước bờ vực suy thoái như giải Scotland vì sự nhàm chán. Nói cách khác, khát khao độc lập của người Catalan đang đốt cháy cả La Liga.
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"Defender al Barca es defender al país"
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Oleguer Presas, Málaga v Barcelona, La Liga, 24 April 2005
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