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#obsessed with nessian and gwynriel
Not me going back and re-reading “we never go out of style” by @separatist-apologist for the millionth time to get the “bad boy Azzy falling head over heals for gwyn”
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octobers-veryown · 1 month
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LITTLE THREAD OF ARTISTS THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT IN THE ACOTAR FANDOM
@velidewrites
Velide is a good friend and an amazing artist and writer, she has a lot of content that you can enjoy and support! Just check her Cassian or one of hers Lucien! And she has a whole NSFW series that you can easily find in her masterlist xx
@laxibbeb Laxi is one of my fav artists here and you should definitely check her works. I am so fond of this Elucien Piece that she created for the last Elucien Week!
@krem-does-stuff One and only Krem, she's one of the most talented person that I know and her style is unique ♥️ I am very grateful to have a Kaz Brekker made just for me 🥺
@witchlingsandwyverns I am so obsessed with her art I can't even explain, her Gwynriel pieces are insane. It just scratches my brain in the right way!
@dustjacketdraws She has two of my fav Nessian pieces ever!! This one is my absolute favorite
@ginya-writes I just discovered this artist and I love their latest Feysand!
If you have any other suggestions please add to this list!
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nikethestatue · 13 hours
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Having been in this fandom for a long time, I think what's become apparent--and I think that's where most of our problems stem from--is that PERSONAL INTERPRETATION has become the default thing to fall back onto, and consequently, it's been used over and over again to negate or disregard the author's INTENT, because it doesn't align with personal preference. Consequently, people began being duped into believing that a reader's personal interpretation of text is 'right' and that canon doesn't matter and that SJM's own intention don't matter as well.
Here are some examples:
Did SJM INTENDED for Cassian to be a terrible mate who will sell Nesta for a chicken nugget if Rhys tells him to? Was the intent to show how poor Nessian pairing is?
OR
Is it just that Cassian did not live up to the readers' own expectations of what they wanted for Nesta? And is their interpretation of Cassian as an awful match for Nesta, who doesn't care about her, only cares about sex, and would never stand up for her or support her, actually correct?
Did SJM INTENDED for Gwyn's scenes in ACOSF to be romantic towards Azriel? Was her cutting the ribbon or climbing or running a prelude to the great Gwynriel romance novel?
OR
Is it that Gwyn was created to be a springboard for Nesta's self-discovery and healing? Someone who accepted, supported and encouraged Nesta when Nesta was at her lowest? And did many readers' animosity towards Elain's characters drove them to willfully interpret absolutely non-romantic scenes as romantic in a futile hope that somehow, their personal wants would translate to page?
Did SJM intended for Rhys and Feyre to be viewed as ignorant despots who hate their own people, only care about wealth and power, and don't give a damn about anyone but themselves and their five houses?
OR
Is Rhys's love for Feyre the driving force behind many of his decisions? for example giving her an extravagant house? Does Rhys really want to trample on everyone's rights, or is he allowing some of his subjects the freedom of autonomy and self-actualization? Is the intent to show that he is a thoughtful and imperfect leader, who cares about the welfare of his people, or is that he is a dictator who gave his lover an empty title?
While SJM's execution of certain topics isn't perfect, I think that wilful ignorance and the desire to see something that isn't there, and something that SJM didn't intended at all, is really the cause of all the shipwars and the IC hate.
Is SJM REALLY in love with Lucien and is excited to write his book, or is that the fantasy of his stans? Whereas SJM's never been particularly complimentary towards Lucien and his character in interviews or in canon?
Will Tamlin's elusive 'redemption arc' REALLY be something that SJM is interested in writing? Or her calling him a 'douchebag' is kind of indicative of her feelings towards him?
"Elriels are obsessed with canon'. We heard this again and again and again. Being obsessed with canon' simply means that we are paying attention to what SJM's intentions are and what she wants to convey through her words. Elriels, just like everyone else have headcanons about Elain, and Az, and Elriel. But we don't discard the actual books and writing in favour of our headcanons.
I feel that lack of consideration towards 'intent' is really leading some people down a very slippery road, where at the end of it, they'll find a lot of crushed dreams. Because most of the time, 'black' is just....black. It's not white. It's not even opaque. It's just, black. I think people should remember that when they do their 'analysis'.
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darklinaforever · 3 months
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I'm tired of the shitty arguments from pro Gwynriel or Elucien. These people don't know how to read and are looking for bullshit excuses. Once again, they're going to fall hard when the Elriel book and Elriel endgame arrives.
The delusion of "If Elain had wanted to break the bond, why hasn't she done it yet ?" Oh, I don't know, maybe because something so important regarding Elain should be discussed from her point of view ?!
The delusion of "If Elriel wanted to be together, why aren't they still ?" Oh, I don't know, maybe something so important about them as one of the main characters in the series should be covered in a book from their point of view / about them ?! Like Nessian ?!
The "Azriel needs therapy before dating" rant is a display of cruel bias, because literally every character on this show could use therapy. But why should Azriel be the one solving all his problems before being in a relationship ?! It's just an excuse to keep him from being with Elain. But ironically, he no longer needs therapy if the future partner is no longer Elain but Gwyn.
The delusion of "Azriel is only sexually obsessed with Elain" when literally every guy on this show is horny for the women they like is huge evidence of bad faith. Even more so when it's the very first time in 3 books that we have a scene of this kind for Elriel while everything else was about romantic emotional development, and we learn in this same bonus chapter where Azriel is excited for Elain that he has also been looking at the gifts she gave him every evening for 1 year instead of having used them. But somehow the relationship is only based on unhealthy sexual desire ?!
The disillusionment of "SJM always cheats on us with several romantic interests, so Elriel won't end up together" is powerful... Already, Bryce & Hunt ?! Then, yes, SJM generally gives several love interests to its characters. Azriel already had Mor. Elain already had Grayson.
And don't even get me started on the "Elain is going to end up with Tamlin because she likes flowers and Tamlin is the hight lord of the Spring Court" bullshit because otherwise I might get really angry. Crackship worse than Gwynriel !
I can't wait for the Elriel book to come out so all this bullshit stops. Or at least, for Elriel to finally become canon like it was always planned. Because be sure that the pros Gwynriel and Elucien, once their illusions are shattered, will tell bullshit like this book is not consistent with the others and that it's just fan service in order to prove themselves right. Damn people, people have talked about SJM, all its couples have always been obvious.
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starsreminisce · 5 months
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Fuck it, we're reclaiming the Gwyn-is-a-lightsinger theory because I had a thought, and it perfectly matches Azriel.
It’s funny that antis like to say how Gwyn = Lightsinger = evil because it’s not a bad thing when she’s an SJM character with the significant amount of development she has received. SJM prides herself on establishing that any power can be used for either side; it all depends on which side that person is on.
Reading ToG has examples of this where a power can be used depending on who and why they wield it.
Gwyn is the Asterin to Nesta’s Manon.
Gwyn is part river nymph, so not everything about Lightsingers would apply to her. She has shown up as a friendly face when someone is feeling lost. She was the one to strike up a conversation with Nesta during the early days of her recovery and was there when Azriel left the river house after his conversation with Rhys.
If she feeds off of people, Nesta and Az wouldn’t care because of how close they are to Amren, who used to drink blood.
But the second thing that caught me is that they are the last thing a person sees before their deaths, and they kill for sport, not food.
Gwyn is a Valkyrie, and the one thing she was obsessed with, other than cutting the ribbon, was mind-stilling. I think seeing Az rescue her, the slaughter within seconds, the cold gaze, and his demeanor when he fights is inspiring for Gwyn because of how powerless she felt when the attack happened.
I think it’s supposed to work in the opposite with how Nessian fight - they fight with feeling, and their source comes from this need to protect. Gwynriel both turn on a switch and become different people when they need to fight.
I think that’s why there is a misunderstanding between canon Az and fanon Az. We see that he’s capable of being supportive and how he overextends himself to protect, but we also see this cold angry side that just simmers underneath. I was not at all surprised with how he behaved in his BC because it’s always been there.
So I wonder if that would extend to how Gwyn behaves when she’s in Valkyrie mode, taking on more of his cold rage-like behavior for the same reason why Az leans more into it when he fights. Mindstilling is a way for Gwyn to mimic how Az was when he saved her.
Lightsingers kill for sport, not food, so for some reason, I can see their bond snapping when Az is overwhelmed or overrun, and all he sees is this glowing figure luring enemies away from him before slaughtering them in moments with a ghost of a smile on her face, covered in enemies’ blood, because she’s … having fun.
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ninaduchess · 4 months
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No offence to anyone, but I feel that sometimes things get a bit out of hand! I don't want to get into controversy, I just like to enjoy Sarah J. Maas' books and I love to enjoy the theories of the fans... saying the following, I'm very much Team Gwynriel, I read the books and it amazes me because although there are moments of Elriel, reading them I could never 100% romanticize those scenes, I never felt the spark of something strong growing in comparison as was the case with Nessian.
However with the extra chapter I became obsessed with the idea of Gwyn and Az.
Now saying this, whatever happens! Whichever couple is left, (and here I stressed that I just want them to have their happy ending too) whether it's Elriel or Gwynriel or even another couple, I would still enjoy that book very much! And here we are forgetting that no matter who we love, it's this amazing writer who is going to build that relationship for us and take us into the story she wants to tell us.
In the end this is to enjoy and transport us to these fantasy worlds for a little while as we carry on with our routine. Let's not forget it👀
PD: thanks to all the fans who write fantastic fanfics to enjoy these theories and possible couples 🥹♥️
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thebelladonnamoon · 1 year
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Share your headcanons about Gwynriel children, pretty please??
Yes! Headcanons I have for the Gwynriel babies:
Pregnancy
Despite being the last couple to get together, they are quick to have children.
The first pregnancy is a total surprise and Gwyn finds out one day when she can’t keep her favourite cake down. Azriel is away on a mission and Gwyn is apprehensive as she doesn’t know how he’ll react.
Of course, as soon as he winnows through the door and finds Gwyn cooking an unusual feast of roasted potatoes and stewed apple pie, Azriel just freezes.
He scents it immediately and Gwyn genuinely thinks he may be going into cardiac arrest for how still he becomes.
And then he just… bursts into tears. He runs to her so fast and then falls to his knees and fully sobs. Gwyn follows suit, coming down to the ground with him saying, “You’re not mad?” Az just blinks in shock before replying “Berdara, how could I ever be mad at you for giving me such a blessing?”
The shadows are naturally delighted and instantly turn into overprotective slithery hounds at any opportunity. They also like to wrap around her belly and report every. single. movement to Azriel.
For the first time in his entire life, he takes leave from work to be beside Gwyn through it all. He takes overprotective to a whole new level and whatever Gwyn wants, Gwyn gets. Chocolate cake at 2am? He’s on it. Daily massages and foot rubs? He’s the male for the job.
Gwyn insists on still training, which often leads to Azriel going unnecessarily easy on her, which then leads to her screaming at him.
True to his secretive nature, Az doesn’t tell anyone until she is well into her second trimester and even then, Rhys and Cassian find out by accident. They have a moment, Cassian obviously, is a blubbering mess.
Azriel reads every single book about pregnancy and fatherhood/parenting in an attempt to assuage his anxiety about becoming a father. He is an incredible father because of how seriously he takes the role.
Gwyn sings temple hymns to her tummy every night and whenever Azriel joins in, excited kicks ensue.
Because of his childhood, Azriel is obsessed with the nursery never being too small, dark or lonely. So he paints the nursery in a soft blue colour, builds a massive bookshelf for the whole wall and fills the room with toys, books and musical instruments.
Gwyn gives birth at Rosehall so Azriel’s mother can see her grandchildren being born. There is no shortage of decadent Illyrian food baked everyday for her.
The Children
They obviously name their girl after Gwyn's sister Catrin and the boys are named after their favourite authors because they are forever nerds at heart.
Their kids are genius level smart and can sing, play the piano, read at an adult literacy rate and fight like devils by the time they’re eight years old.
They have three children: twins (boy and girl) first and a baby boy later on.
The Twins: A girl (Catrin) with dark hair and hazel eyes who is cheeky and a total trouble maker and a boy with copper hair and turquoise eyes who is shy, gentle and quiet.
Catrin is a natural at espionage and is known for being able to pick even the toughest locks/break the strongest wards and sneak into forbidden places.
Catrin, Nyx and Nessian’s eldest daughter are best friends and end up giving the bat boys a run for their money with how much trouble they get in. (Whatever you do, don’t bring up the time the trio managed to steal one of Helion’s pegasi and fly to the Middle on a dare and especially don’t mention the time they caught Bryaxis and almost got eaten in the process).
The twin boy, who is very much the quiet/intelligent strategist type, has an academic rivals to lovers relationship with Feysands daughter.
Their joint competitive streaks, differing philosophical outlooks and general poor tempers make for perfect tension. Total Anthony and Kate from bridgerton vibes.
The baby boy is born a few years later and is the spitting image of Azriel - and he has wings! Being the youngest of the lot, he often feels left out and lonely.
He ends up running away to the training camps to have an Illyrian education because he idolises Nyx and wants to prove himself to his father despite Azriel never wanting them near Illyria.
He totally has a friends to lovers romance with a male Illyrian warrior he meets at the training camps and you can’t tell me otherwise. ((Their siphons match))
Azriel’s mother ADORES them and having grandchildren gives her the courage to leave Rosehall occasionally to travel to Velaris for Winter Solstice. Admittedly, she has a soft spot for the youngest, but she’d never say so.
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damedechance · 1 year
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It's my birthday today and if you wanna give me a gift you can read:
(in no particular order):
The Hit by @headcanonheadcase
(nessian hockey au, what more could you ask for? It's currently on my TBR, and if you want to catch yourself up on the series you can start with: The Bargain)
Mainstreet Mayhem by @headcanonheadcase
(gwynriel, a fic in progress which fills me with continuous overwhelming joy each day it updates!!)
Every Morning the Maple Leaves by @ofduskanddreams
The perfect Azris modern AU oneshot. And I can't stress this enough: crop tops. Btw a little birdie tells me that she has a special surprise planned for Azris week that includes my all time fave, What Lies Inside
Howl by @iftheshoef1tz
(also Azris, and the fic in progress which I hold solely responsible for the Azris brainrot I've been in lately. Guess who has the septum ring? 🐮)
Against Nostalgia by @houseofhurricane
(you may have THOUGHT I left my dramione era but you'd be dead wrong because I'm obsessed with this fic and it is SO well thought out and absolutely full of all the things I love in a story)
Fanservice for Your Fanfiction by @vulpes-fennec
(come on we all know gwyn would be a fanfic writer irl you can't tell me different and this whole fic is just chef's kiss)
You Look Like Bad News by @the-lonelybarricade
(every time I think of elucien I think of this fic and I have to go drink a gallon of water just so I don't spontaneously combust. If you know me you know I love smut and this certainty delivers)
Out of the Storm by @shadowriel
(top tier gwynriel, every single sentence had me on the floor screaming like I wish someone filmed me while I was reading this because I was literally so insane the whole time)
Embers by @ultadverb
(mor and elain. It works SO well and the execution is just astounding. You need to read this immediately and then report back because I have to gush about it with someone please I'm begging)
This is by no means an exhaustive list of fic recs, BUT it's Gemini season and thus I am entitled to force you all to read from some of my favorite people so yeah go through the list, pick one (or all), and then come back and scream about them with me. 🥰🎂🥳
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darklove9314-blog · 1 year
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All Fanfic Projects and An Announcement for Some of My New Ones
So as most of my followers know I love writing fanfiction and I’ve been obsessed with writing primarily ACOTAR fanfiction. Well I thought it would be fun today to announce all my projects and my future ones that are now in the works as well. Spoilers for SJM Books. 
Current WIP That are Now Published on A03: 
-Symphonia (Nessian family fic/ACOTAR Next Gen Fic) 
-The Song in the Shodaws (Gwynriel fic) 
-Fire on Fire (Nessian Forbidden Romance Fic. This will be where I will post updates for my Nessian Forbidden romace story I started on Tumblr) 
-She is the Sunlight (Jesminda and Lucien’s love Story) 
-Hearts Set Aflame (A Nessian fanfic where Nesta and Cassian are sent to the Illyrian mountains to keep Nesta safe from the queen. This is also a ACOSF Rewrite of sorts.)
-Toxic Queen (A Nessian AU fic where Cassian hates the Archerons for what they did to his family and sets his sights on seducing Nesta to get back at them, but ends up falling for her instead.)
-How Can You Mend A Broken Heart? (A Feyre, Nesta, and Elain centered fanfiction set at the end of ACOWAR where Rhys dies instead of being brought back to life by the High Lords, and the sisters try to find their own ways of coping with all they have lost.) 
-As Bright As The Dawn (A Collection of ACOTAR/SJ,M prompts that I mostly post on Tumblr. 
-In A Sky of A Thousand Stars (This is what I think will happen in House of Flame and Shadow/ My ACOTAR/CC Crossover) 
-Shadow and Flames (This fic is basically a Nesta, Cassian, and Azriel Fic where they partake in Nesta’s fantasy.)
-The Everlasting Spring (An Elucien Fanfic where Elain and Lucien have to work together to not only save the Spring Court, but find out that there is a bigger threat that they hadn’t expected coming.) 
Future Fanfics That I’ve Started Working on That The First Chapter will be Released soon. 
-Burn for You (A Nessian Fanfic that centers their time together during ACOMAF-Pre ACOSF.) 
-Fire and Ice (A Eris centered Fanfic where Eris goes to the Winter Court to try and make allies amongst some of the Winter Court Citizens and finds something unexpected there.)
-The Truth in the Silence (A Fanfic centered around Mor and Emerei’s relationship as well as an emotional healing journey for Mor.) 
-Days in the Sun (Helion and The Lady of the Autumn Court’s love story) 
A Flame in The Night (An ACOTAR/TOG crossover Fic where Nyx fand Rowaelin;s daughter in order to bring peace amongst their parents two courts are placed in ana arranged marriage) 
A Tale of Two Courts (A Rhys/Tamlin centered fic that tells the events of the night that broke them apart and made them despise each other.) 
Future fics that are planned, but have no set release yet. 
-Wanting was Enough (This Fic is going to be set after the events of Symphonia and will mostly center around Melody as she tries to navigate through the events at the end of Symphonia.) 
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winx-memes · 4 months
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Tag game: Tag nine (9) people you want to get to know better
Tagged by: @stellasolaris. Thank you for tagging me Liv Liv <3
Three Ships: I switch constantly between my favourite ships... so here are some I'm currently obsessed with:
Vin/Elend (Mistborn): I'm almost finished with the first book and I love them so much. They just make me feel so giddy.
Nesta/Cassian (A Court of Thorns and Roses): Mostly pre-ACOFAS, though. ACOWAR Nessian has my heart. Also Gwynriel.
Kaz/Inej (Six of Crows): I have to agree with Liv on this. They are perfect for each other.
For Winx Club my favourite ships are Brandon x Stella and Bloom x Sky.
First Ship:
I think Brandon and Stella or Katara and Aang. Not entirely sure.
Last Song:
Rammstein - Sonne (It's my current fave while I'm working on my writing project).
Last Movie:
I recently rewatched High School Musical 2 with my little brother which feels like a feverdream.
Currently Reading:
The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson. I love Sanderson, one of my favourite authors of all time and I haven't even read the entire Cosmere yet.
The Crucible by Arthur Miller. I'm currently re-reading it for my thesis.
Salem's Story: Reading the Witch Trials of 1692 by Bernard Rosenthal. Also for my thesis.
Currently Watching:
Life on our Planet and I'm rewatching Bridgerton season 2
Currently Drinking:
Tea.
Currently Craving:
Peace, which sounds very pretentious, but life has been weird the past years due to personal circumstances. Luckily I'll be off for a couple of months before I start my masters. Hopefully I can get control back over my life, lmfao.
I don't know who to tag because I'm so inactive, sorry.
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ACOTAR Fanfic MasterList
I read an ALARMING amount of Fanfiction, and this is the easiest way for me to catalog some of my favorite Fanfiction. I love AO3 but I wish I could put things in categories and separate folders like GoodReads. I will be updating this list periodically and they are in no particular order. However, I will star some of my favorites!
Please note that most of these have smut! These are also all long fics, no one shots in here.
These will just be my AO3 favorite fanfics, I will make another master post for the Tumblr specific fics.
Here is a link to my subscription list on AO3 that is the most up to date.
Color Key:
Gwynriel
Elucien
Feysand
Nessian
*= Favorite, ***************= I have a borderline obsession
Finished Fics:
Call Me home (@propagandaprincess) (gives telenovella vibes)
A Court of Whisper and Song (@mystical-blaise) *
A Mythical Thing (@separatist-apologist) *
A Court of Light and Melody (@daevastanner) *
Trial of the Valkyrie (@daevastanner) *
On My Radar (@vikingmagic33)
Hands On (@headcanonheadcase)
Delectable (@hlizr50, @violet-shadows, @thehaemanthus)
The Capri-Sun Girl (@headcanonheadcase, @hlizr50, @ofduskanddreams)
The Raven and the Songbird (@hlizr50)
These Scars Paint the Map that Led Me to You (@hlizr50)
A Court of Song and Shadow (@justawhore)
Intimacy: A Gwynriel Smut Collection (@tealnymph24)
A Court of Smoke and Shadow (@daevastanner)
Nothing Can Break Us (@thewordnerd)
The Dream (@lady-riel)
Drunk in the Wrong Bedroom (@lady-riel)
Ballad of Shadows (@jennierubyjaner)
Sword and Shield (@synopsis)
Wrapped in His Shadows (@95wolfpanda)
Voices in the Shadows (@mercurianbisous)
On the Nature of Hearts (@daevastanner)
Shadowsinger (@emilia3546)
Snap (@headcanonheadcase)
Stealth (@vikingmagic33)
Your Truly (@cosmic_justice_is_us)
Wonderland (@separatist-apologist) *
Dismantle. Repair. (@separatist-apologist)
You Look Like Bad News (@the-lonelybarricade)
Foxy (@azrielshadowssing)
Haves and Have Nots (@the-lonelybarricade, @thehaemanthus, @hlizr50) *
The King Under the Mountain (@SweetVillianDarlingGod)
What Dreams May Come (Anonymous)
A Court of War and Starlight (sv_you_know_who_I_am)
I made you a Promise (@nomattertheoceans)
ACOMAF from Rhys's POV (@illyriantremors)
No Reason to Stay (@xelly)
Autumn In Velaris (@talkfantasytome)
Ongoing Fics:
We Never Go Out of Style (@separatist-apologist) *************
Things You Can't Have (@damedechance) ***************
Wanting (More Than You Can Have) (@damedechance)
House of Shadow and Song (@headcanonheadcase) (Spoilers for HOSAB) ********
Sleep, Sleep Beauty Bright (@headcanonheadcase) *********
A Court of Shadows (@aldbooks) *
His Sleeping Vixen (@eeereee) ************
A Court of Ribbon and Shadows (@thebluenickel)
Synchronicity (@ofduskanddreams) **************
Gwynriel Drabbles (@moodymelanist)
Gwynriel One-Shots (@ladyofcloudedskies)
Three Strings, One Bracelet (ArcturuStarlight) *************
Daevastanner Gwynriel TikTok Fics (@daevastanner)
Gwynriel One-Shots (@daevastanner)
Surprise (@celiamoonbeam)
Sworn His Shadows Sang (@lady-riel)
Dadriel (@mystical-blaise)
Gwynriel Fanfictions (@meher-sumedha)
Gwynriel Fics (@mercurianbisous)
Gwynriel One-Shots (@ladyofcloudedskies)
Never Enough (@loewenanni)
Of Darkness and Light (@lovestoryfanatic)
Shadow Songs (@xcinsationalx)
Symphony of Shadows (@gwynrielstan)
A Court of Light (@aldbooks) *
I was Enchanted to Meet You (@separatist-apologist)
There You Are (@SweetVillianDarlingGod) (Note: chapter 18 may be some of my favorite literature of ALL TIME. I laugh EVERY. SINGLE. TIME)
A Court of Faded Dreams (@the-lonelybarricade) *************
Nessian Drabbles (@moodymelanist)
Valkyrie Tales (@seacheck4)
Sext and the City (@vikingmagic33, @headcanonheadcase)
Velaris Tattoo Parlor (@talkfantasytome)
Velaris State Chronicles (@talkfantasytome)

I would love some more Nessian, Feysand, and Elucien fics! As well as any longer gwynriel fics that I may have missed!!!
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So if you had to choose one TSwift song that embodies each ACOTAR couple, which songs would you choose for each couple?
Enchanted for Feysand- this night is sparkling, don't you let it go. I'm wonderstruck, blushing all the way home. Utterly Rhysand in ACOMAF during Starfall.
Daylight for Elucien- this is an obvious choice I think BUT: i used to think love would be burning red, but its golden/maybe you ran with the wolves and refused to settle down, maybe i've stormed out of every single room in this town, threw out our coats and our daggers because it's morning now, it's brighter now. Flawless, no notes
Don't Blame Me for Nessian- For you I would cross the line, I would waste my time, I would lose my mind, They say "she's gone too far this time" (Nesta) and My name is whatever you decide and I'm just gonna call you mine/echoes of your name inside my mind halo, hiding my obsession I once was poison ivy but now i'm your daisy/ for you i would fall from grace just to touch your face if you walked away, I'd beg you on my knees to stay (Cassian)
Sparks Fly for Gwynriel- You stood there in front of me just close enough to touch, close enough to hope you couldn't see what I was thinking of/GIVE ME SOMETHING THAT'LL HAUNT ME WHEN YOU'RE NOT AROUND CAUSE I SEE SPARKS FLY WHENEVER YOU SMILE c'mon. I'm right. BIG Azriel mood.
BONUS:
This Love- Helion x LOA. I just. I want it to be like this: tossing turning struggled through the night with someone new/lantern burning flickered in the night for only you/this love left a permanent mark this love is glowing in the dark these hands had to let it go free and this love came back to me
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nikethestatue · 4 months
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Elucien and gwynriel think the same way elriel thinks when it comes to ships😅 you see their coments and all they said is sjm’s Pinterest is full of elucien and gwynriel and that they have all the canon evidence and similarities with others ship. Elriels think the same way we think we are right and that all the evidence points to us. I mean I have seem multiple elucien saying they can’t wait to see our ship sink. The fandom is so clearly divided and each side thinks they are 100% right. They said we make everything about elain and we said they make everything about gwyn or lucien🤷🏼‍♀️ is literally the same way of thinking just with different characters. Honestly it makes me a little scared to who is really right when it comes to ship because every side is so sure they are right. I honestly just want elain’s book.
I disagree with this because i think there is a big difference between wishful thinking and canon evidence.
I am sorry, but Gwynriel is just whack. From purely evidentiary POV, if you are not an obsessed fan who spent 3 years looking at the 2nd part of the bonus chapter and thinking you got something, Gwynriel doesn't exist. Like ask ANY casual reader, who isn't influenced by anything (btw, when ACOSF just came out, I was a fan of ACOTAR but I wasn't a crazed Elriel. I was still mostly into Feysand and Nessian, and I wasn't dealing with Elriel, because that was coming later. So I was technically that casual reader) if they think Gwynriel is an actual thing, 99% of them will say no. And look at you like you just fell out of a tree. Literally, yesterday, someone asked their mom about their opinion, since they are reading ACOSF, and the mom was like 'what? Azriel and that teenager?" It's not US. It's reality. There is no Gwynriel. Sorry.
Elucien have a bond. But haven't the last 4 books shown that the bond and the lack of attraction between Elain and Lucien are kind of sus? Again, SJM throwing in a ton of 'what if the Cauldron was wrong? why not make them mates?" isnt there for shits and giggles. Could, extremely hypothetically, Elucien happen? I'd say, yes, it has more chances than Gwynriel, but it's not saying much. Also, Lucien was literally given a girlfriend! Why they keep bitching about Vassa, I have no idea. It's a fantasy. They can all be immortal, it's okay.
But seriously, I cannot CANNOT compare Gwynriel, which is just a combo of headcanons, what ifs, random wants and delirious TikTokers, with what is actually in the books for Elriel.
Seriously, what are we even comparing here? Huge scenes like the Hybern rescue, the TT exchange, the murder of the King, and I want to eat Elain out, to what, exactly?
I wanna cut the ribbon! Go ahead. Cut it.
Or
absolutely NO Elucien scenes. Name ONE Elucien scene? Other than him having a long ass monologue in his head? NONE exit.
So, I am gonna be honest, and will put on my 'Crazed Elriel' hat and say one is definitely not like the other two.
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Hello!
About the Azriel you were talking about him, I have to say that part in the extra that he says: that he showed Rhysand that side of him said a lot. It is normally closed and has multiple peaks. Girls find men that sexy, but in SJM's books it was always a warning.
I wanted to know why people find the way he refers to Elain as an object of possession beautiful, I wanted to see if it was Lucien giving the necklace to someone else...
Another detail, from acomaf we know that Azriel needs to exercise when he is frustrated. By the time he gets to that ring, he's broken, and he's fine and slept as well as he could.
I love the language of Gwynriel: provocative, competitive, and understanding at a glance.
I loved when Gwyn said he saw Azriel's aggressive side that slaughtered everyone, WITHOUT HESITATION. She was there at her worst moment, but proud that her attackers suffered. I'm looking forward to the broken parts of the two coming together.
What do you say about Gwyn saying she did bad things too. Do you think there's something beyond the fights she had with Catrin?
The reason Feysand worked is because Rhys showed Feyre the worst of him from the start. The reason Nessian worked is because Nesta never put on airs around Cassian, she let him see the most bitter and angry parts of who she was from their first interaction. Rowealin were endgame because they were complete assholes to one another in the beginning. If you can weather the worst of someone than you can definitely handle the best of them. We don't get that with E/riel though and that's not a good thing for an SJM book because as we see above, that's not how she writes her endgame couples. Azriel refuses to let Elain see the darkest parts of him and that right there spells their demise. I know Gwyn hasn't seen everything bad about Az just yet (i.e., his obsessive tendencies with females, his defying orders) but, she has seen the ever present rage that is a part of him. She did not seem bothered at all by his savagery. Anti's like to use the excuse that "of course she was fine with it since he killed the people that were harming her!" but honestly, that doesn't seem to make a difference to Elain. The people of the Hewn City are examples of horrible beings yet the cruelty that exists there still bothers her. Why would she care about what they do to one another since canonically, they're bad? Why would it matter to her since they deserve it? Elain seemed shocked by Nesta's beheading of the King but didn't he deserve it? Did Elain herself seem to enjoy taking credit for her part in his demise? After everything he had done to her and her sisters? It does not matter to Elain who is bad or good, who deserves cruelty or not, it still bothers her. So no, when Anti's try to argue against Gwyn's response to Az slaughtering everyone, their argument doesn't hold up. I think when Gwyn had the conversation that she didn't want to make any more mistakes she was referring to what happened at the temple which she carries a lot of guilt for. And when she was referring to the faults she had with Catrin, it was probably referencing the normal sister squabbles that sisters tend to have (just as we've witnessed with the Archerons). Do I think it's possible she could do something bad in the future? Only in the way that Feyre does bad things (like the destruction of Spring for the good of her Court and revenge on Tamlin and stealing from Tarquin). In the way Cassian razed an entirely village for revenge. In fantasy books, no one really looks at those things as "bad" because if there's a "evil guy or girl", readers tend to feel they deserve whatever is coming for them. But if we want to get technical, I guess revenge at whatever cost can be considered somewhat of an issue. Feyre and Rhys were willing to make an enemy out of a good person so long as it served their purpose in the end (it bothered them to do so but they were still did it anyway). She's meant to be Azriel's equal and that means the good and the bad have to somewhat align. Which to me means she could develop a bit of a bloodthirsty, vengeful side just like he has, just like Nesta has, just like Rhys has and so on.
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tbh even E/riels are disappointed with acosf but they don't say it to others although they talk about it among themselves lol I used to be one so I should know. acosf was Nesta's books everyone expected to see Elain more bc she was close to her and they also heard about the training so they were 100% sure they were going to see E/riel training scenes (the very one they accuse Gwynriel for being boring and they don't want Nessian 2.0 lmao) so when they didn't get that they started commenting on Gwynriel post of how they wanted Elain instead of Gwyn in those scenes (specially the shadows dancing around Gwyn and the private dagger lesson) and that's when the toxicity started and I knew this place was not for me anymore. even tho I used to be a bypass in the fandom and not actually fixated on the books I saw enough threats and bullying, it was bad. I came back on acotar fandom this summer after a very long time and even now the reek of jealousy from that side of the fandom is recognizable. the pure ignorance and delusion is quite amusing, they know E/riel won't happen but they have to make it look like they don't so their years of being obsessed with a fictional ship and bulling other fans, the author and publisher won't got to waist yk. bc when I read acosf for the first time I knew Gwynriel is endgame and even before that I wasn't a huge E/riel fan but I wanted to tolerate them for the possibility of them happening and not Elucien (after the end of acofas we weren't sure who would be endgame and I was quite sad bc I was more incline toward Elain and Lucien)
anyway if they were so confidence in their ship they wouldn't do none of that and let others enjoy their time being in the fandom.
Oop that’s some piping hot tea right there.
Honestly, why couldn't they just be as chill as Azris shippers?
Azris shippers understand that the likelihood of their ship is slim, but they can manifest and hope for the best. Through Love, all is possible!
Yes, it's quite possible! I can passionately support Gwynriel and Azris in tandem. E/riels can readily accept that Elucien is the endgame couple while finding delight in the hints and potentials of E/riel until the next book's release when perspectives may change. Although there may still be Neris shippers out there, I haven't observed any significant disrespect directed toward Nessian. It's possible that I might not be searching thoroughly, but it's heartening that it's not as prevalent as the mainstream rivalry between Elucien and Gwynriel vs. E/riel.
I perceived ACOSAF as a retcon of Elucien, as Elain's abrupt shift from suggesting Lucien move to Velaris to ignoring him lacked a clear explanation of their deteriorating relationship. More on this later.
I get why E/riel shippers held onto hope after ACOSAF, even though I viewed their connection as more platonic. Azriel's deep love for Mor was abundantly clear in the series, and the Hybern scene hinted at the endgame couples, particularly Moriel, which was reinforced by SJM's deleted Pinterest.
In my view, Gwyn embodies a blend of Mor and Elain, sharing Mor's trauma, the ability to fit in with "one of the boys," a girl-next-door quality, and an interest in combat, while also displaying Elain's quiet and reserved nature.
On a more serious note, it's entirely possible to appreciate a ship without resorting to belittling anyone, whether it's a character without proper canon context or an actual person. Doubling down and resorting to insults becomes even more embarrassing. Perhaps this is due to a reluctance to acknowledge the scarcity of E/riel content to draw from.
Ironically, my anti-E/riel posts stem from my restraint in responding to most of their takes but they aren't inclined to listen, and I lack a suitable outlet to release my frustrations.
Additionally, I take issue with the way many books romanticize red flags as desirable relationship traits. It's crucial to recognize that Azriel's hesitancy to be his true self around Elain is an unhealthy dynamic, and it's not Elain's responsibility to change that. When someone acknowledges their actions as a mistake, it's wise to believe them and move on. This situation is reminiscent of the problematic "Twin Flame" concept, which often excuses negative behavior under the guise of a deeper connection.
But, thats why I don't like E/riel in a nutshell.
Gwyn and Lucien are fictional characters written to have a lot of trauma in their backstories. While they are not real, I can easily consider what you say about them as a reflection of what you truly believe to real people who have gone through something similar.
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