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"You know, I don't think you've ever called me by my name." - Joan
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goodassmotherliker · 1 year
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Endeavour season 9 spoiler alert
Having finished the final episode, I cannot overstate the importance of this frame. I would argue that this is the most exposed we have ever seen Morse. Throughout the series, he is estranged from the period-appropriate clothing and technology. If you saw a picture of Morse in his house, you could easily attribute it to the fifties, even though the show is set in the late sixties/early seventies. Morse's taste in music is nothing close to modern as well. 
That is why this scene hits so hard. Morse in the party lights lost under the ridiculous disco ball with Rocket Man playing in the background. Morse's alienation from the music of his era makes the music choice even more special and heartbreaking. Everything that Morse held dear to his heart is gone: the love of his life is happily married to another man, and his mentor is leaving for good. But, most importantly, Morse's integrity, often represented by classical music, is corrupted. Morse betrayed his principles and dropped the Blenheim Valey case for Fred Thursday and his family. He lied so that Thursday could get away with murder. 
Morse is lost in a world he neither recognizes nor fits in. The reality of 1972 has never been so tangible. Hence the disco ball. Hence the soundtrack. Immaculate and thought-through. 
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bobbie-robron · 1 year
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Only in our dreams…
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nativestarwrites · 1 year
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Watching Endeavour is 50% enjoying the emotion and care conveyed in the looks and words left unsaid and 50% wanting to shout at them to use their bloody words and have an actual conversation about it.
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susieskinner93 · 1 year
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the truth is I LOVE YOU 
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in S1Ep4 when joan asks about jakes, made me cry cause i realized something. She was in love with or had a crush on jakes at one point and got married to strange, but the only one who loved her all along was endeavour who never found it in himself to tell her and perhaps even to himself how he feels and gosh THE FEELINGS HE IS PERFECTLY MESSED UP GOSH I JUST WANT TO GIVE HIM HUG why does it feel like he was enchanted to meet her from the first 'do what you are told' and she was 'do something, say something, lose something, risk something cause you lost me'
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paranorahjones · 8 months
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how DARE my brain make me think of Morse and Joan while listening to Whiskey Lullaby
how
DARE
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sircolinmorgan · 7 months
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SARA VICKERS as JOAN THURSDAY.
ENDEAVOUR (2012-2023)
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morsesnotes · 7 months
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[Divorce] is difficult for many a child. To some degree they always blame themselves.
Endeavour Morse + trying to save his childhood self troubled kids
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galacticforces · 6 months
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unplotted starter for @dccontramundum because I'm crazy about this scene and it's Anchor's fault
"I can't. I can't." How could she possibly go home, after all of this? "I've made such a mess of things. I just... don't know what to do." She looked down again, ashamed, and hugged herself slightly. Really, she wasn't even sure why she'd come here, except that Morse, somehow... felt safe.
"Marry me."
She looked up sharply, mouth falling open with shock. He can't have possibly- What-? A thousand conflicting thoughts and feelings crossed her mind and her face. Marry him? While she's carrying another man's child? Another man's bruises? When they'd never so much as been on a date? Marry her father's constable? Marry the man who... the man who she'd come to, after everything.
But he didn’t know it all, and to burden him with that... the last thing Morse needed was another burden--he gave himself enough of them.
He swallowed and she stared and it felt like ages passed. Then she had to try several times to come up with anything she could say--to force words out. "Morse. I-" She looked down, shook her head. Then she looked up again, bit her lip, just for a second. And she took a step closer.
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alias71 · 17 days
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Endeavour & Joan - Missing Scene
It all started with this print (© The Red Dress London on Etsy):
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I noticed that the moment depicted between Endeavour and Joan was not included in Season 6, which this artwork was commissioned to advertise. I didn't think much about it until the wonderful @sircolinmorgan posted this image from shutterstock:
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Finally! Evidence that the deleted scene existed! But where from? Some investigation was required...
Okay, so when lightened up a bit, what you can tell just from that pic alone is that there’s a blackboard in the background, someone sitting at a desk, and you can see the edge of a camp bed (you can also see that she’s holding his other hand!) All of that of course suggests ‘Deguello’ and the aftermath of the tower collapse in the gymnasium. As far as I can tell there’s only one scene in the episode at this location and it’s when Endeavour escorts a child to a waiting parent and then Strange and Thursday are there and reach for him (quite a lovely caring moment):
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Compare the first of these three pics and you’ll see the blackboard, the person at the desk, and that the blue area in the shutterstock pic is the privacy screen next to the blackboard.
Endeavour is wearing his blue shirt that’s consistent with both images, but he never takes his jacket off in the actual scene and it’s very odd that Strange touches Endeavour’s shoulder and he turns around, only for the scene to immediately cut to the makeshift morgue scene with DeBryn. You never see another scene at that location as far as I can tell. Does that imply something was cut there? The shutterstock pic shows Joan at that location, but she was never there in the episode.
The next scene with Endeavour is when he visits the little girl in hospital and meets Joan there:
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Their conversation is extremely brief with Joan telling Endeavour he should be at home:
Morse: I wanted to see if she was all right. How is she? How's her mum?
Joan: Hanging in there. You should be home.
Morse: Home. So should she. So should her mother. So should everyone.
Joan: Accidents happen.
Morse: Yeah, not like this. You know, somebody's got to be responsible. Is there anything I can do?
Joan: You've done your bit and more.
Morse: Good night.
Joan: Good night.
Joan is of course wearing the same as in the shutterstock pic. The next time we see Joan she runs into Endeavour when he’s investigating the surveyor and she’s changed clothes:
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They talk about the survivors and then have this little exchange:
Joan: How are things with you?
Morse: Oh, one day's much the same as the next.
Joan: I didn't mean work, I meant you.
Morse: Oh, it's the same thing, isn't it? Have you seen your father lately?
Joan: Not much. Why?
Morse: Well, I just wondered if he was all right. He hasn't seemed himself lately.
Joan: Oh.
Morse: Anyway, there it is.
It’s extremely halting and Endeavour leaves looking all awkward and uncomfortable. Make of that what you will because neither of the filmed scenes between Endeavour and Joan play like they could have had such a close moment as in the shutterstock pic with Joan touching his face and holding his hand. Obviously one was switched out, but it seems to me the entire tenor of their interaction in 'Deguello' was changed. These are the only scenes they had together and Joan isn’t in the rest of the episode or the next season for that matter! I wonder if it played a part that Sara Vickers wasn’t available - I have no idea how far in advance they could have known. It's also possible they felt that a romantic moment would have been out of place in the midst of a tragedy, or perhaps they simply decided against allowing Endeavour and Joan to be close. No matter the reason, it's a real shame - it looked like a beautiful scene!
Anyway, that was my little Sherlockian endeavour (snort!) into the missing Endeavour/Joan moment everyone was robbed of. I think it’s probably much like the sigil scene in BBCs ‘Merlin’ where a totally different version was filmed with a very different feel, and we don’t know why that was swapped out either! Damn my favourite shows.
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their widest smiles reserved for each other.
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magog83 · 8 months
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Never over the fact we didn't get to actually see this in the episode.
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grimmicks · 2 years
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“You must learn to love someone else apart from me, Sara.”
Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975) dir. Peter Weir cine. Russell Boyd
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susieskinner93 · 1 year
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it’s still funny infuriating funny when strange said that if joan changed her mind it would be totally fine he wouldn’t think less of her... and then she said she’s never been more sure.... NEVER BEEN MORE SURE???? LOL you literally called Morse to meet up with him and if he wasn’t busy being beaten up he would’ve made it and it would be a totally different story ..... JUST SAYING 
.... hypocritical much???
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I can't believe I never noticed this on any of my other watchthroughs
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When Morse arrives at the Thursday's home in Fugue, Joan is staring out the second-story window already waiting for him to arrive
As soon as he rings the doorbell she is there to pull the door open, meaning she probably flew down the stairs so that she and she alone would be the one to answer the door instead of anyone else
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And all I can think is that at dinners in the Thursday household, Fred has been telling his family about the strange new man he's recently been working alongside (leaving out the work details, of course), although the new fellow is no more than a boy, really, who's sarcastic and devoted to opera and has a bit of a chip on his shoulder but oh his mind is brilliant and he's got a peculiarly gentle and caring side to him that you don't often see in policework-
And after all those dinners of her father talking about his new bagman, Joan must have found out that one morning he would actually be coming to pick Fred up instead of Jakes. And after all she has heard about this new boy she is just dying to meet him because this is a guy her dad actually seems to like, someone he genuinely approves of instead of "scaring off," and maybe Joan is hopeful, and maybe she wonders if he's really as gentle as her father says, and maybe she wonders if he's at all cute, and maybe she thinks there could be something there in the future
and she would be one hundred thousand billion trillion percent correct
*cries*
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