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undercoverxs · 2 years
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mik09to INTERESTING... this is very open to interpretation and could definitely play into the 'mikoto was antagonized and either he or orekoto lashed out as a means of "protection"' theory... think this is feeding into some of my headcanons personally, but the ambiguity is such a note to chew on... tysm for sharing!
mik09to ( also feel you on crossing your fingers and putting hope towards the writers... i've heard claims that yamanaka's handled DID well before, so fingers crossed that they subvert / outright avoid the "evil alter" trope entirely and lay any worries to rest. )
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(( happy to help~ and hmm, promising if true!!
I’m also comforted by the voice drama-- the fact that whichever alter is more outwardly aggressive, ‘orekoto’, you’re calling him? the fact that he was able to hurt es-- ofc, gotta acknowledge there is a chance of some other error, something like ‘“mikoto” was fronting when we took him here, so regardless who did the murder, that’s who’s restricted” -- Or, what I find much more interesting, “‘mikoto’ did the murder, and thus is restricted. ‘orekoto’ is just trying to protect the system.” That route feels more promising, and right away gives mikoto a read of being much more calculated than just violent for violence’s sake-- and gives ‘orekoto’ a read of aggression, but just from passionate desire to protect the system. At least that much kind of feels confirmed-- So yeah, they could do really interesting stuff here if they keep playing the right cards
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undercoverxs · 2 years
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mik09to: YO this is so cool!? i love finding little nuanced tidbits like these that often get glazed over when translating, they really speak so much personality that can say the world about a character... thank you for sharing, i'd love to read more in the future! and if you have anything on mikoto especially... 👁 i am all ears.
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(( they really do........... always happy to find more who appreciate these things >:33
I’ve been working through them more or less in order, and only just got to Mikoto, like. literally the other day. I’m very afraid to try making sense of these words tbh. But I can say that........ it’s... difficult??
okay listen so. “If I could laugh, if I could back, I’d play dead even though I’m alive, right?”   -- That’s.. it works, and it’s what the officials decided to use, so maybe I shouldn’t over-complicate it. But japanese tends not to use pronouns--  Most of the time, who the subject is is decided by context. But this is a song, and this is milgram song, and context is. hoo boy what is it actually.
the fact is, there’s no “I’ used here.
“if laugh. if return.” (I can’t pin if ‘return’ is in the sense of time or place or something else, either) “playing dead even though alive.”
I don’t know. But here’s what I’m thinking, very possibly over-complicated -- Every song so far (of the first season) has felt at least partially addressed to the victims, or referencing them in some way, or something-- but Mikoto’s at least seems to be entirely focused on himself. But, since this part in the video is the only time we see his victim at all, I’m just. curious? Exactly who is laughing? Go back to what, when, where? Playing dead, isn’t that something one does to avoid actually dying? Does the context suggest “I”, or “you”? Does it ever change? Who’s doing anything here?
What am I supposed to do with any of this?? no clue at all, enjoy
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undercoverxs · 2 years
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mik09to oh man, i swear, it's like you hopped out of my brain and brought out all the stuff ive been rambling and mulling over to my friend for the past week! it's so cool to see folks with similar thoughts and observations like this, from the imeeji thing to the potential of there being more than just one alter in his system! :D
mik09to also no worries at all, sorry for the confusion! you got the orekoto thing completely correct - my bad for not clarifying!
mik09to would love to know when you think his eyes feel fake, since im super curious on other takes on it 👁 im chewing on the possibility of a third too, since im conflicted between "its just mikoto and orekoto and im overthinking the duality motif" vs "the duality motif is a red herring and meant to make you think theres only 2"; lots of thoughts on this, but im definitely rambling enough as is. sorry for blowing up your notifs!
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(( no I’m so happy to be indulged!! I’ve been able to talk with friends about it too, but I feel that it’s s o nice to find people outside the bubble with these thoughts!!
And man y e ah, the duality thing seems....... I don’t know how to take it. From my understandings, it seems way more common to have far more than two in a system. But from a writer’s perspective, especially with such limited screentime, I couldn’t blame them for keeping it minimal, especially if they’re trying to be true to life in other aspects. So the duality aesthetics, calling the next song “Double,” like... are you trying to mislead us or really just doing two......... Or, could... Mikoto and Orekoto be trying to get our attention off the third..?
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I have.......... way too many thoughts on the possibilities with this song. I’ll go under readmore to feel a little cleaner
So, my idea of three first came from reading the song as though everyone in the system has a section to themselves. Operating on that, I wanted to separate them by music style--
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First comes the heavy metal style, and we watch the murder. Keeping in mind the voice drama, and going with the idea that “Mikoto” is the murderer, this calls the desire to link this style of music to him.
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But then we get this music, and we get the pleas to look at him more closely, and just... this doesn’t really match the vibe Orekoto gave off, yknow? But, maybe it’s just an act, by him or mikoto. But-- who exactly would this act be for? And how? With every other prisoner, even if they try to put on airs, it feels more like it’s because they themselves buy into those airs, at least a little. It still reflects something genuine in them. With the nature of extractions, it doesn’t seem like it should be possible, for the songs themselves to purposefully look es/the audience in the eye and say “No, no, that isn’t true.”
I've thought about the possibility that this is still Mikoto, though-- and rather than pleading to reconsider that he’s a killer, the possibility came up that he could be.. unaware that he’s part of a system? And begging “It must be a mistake, take a good look at me”, could instead be denial to that fact? Maybe, it’s on the table for me.
Bu t back to the three person theory-- uhhh I’ll refer to this one as ‘Aokoto’ :>
So. Whoever this is, we don’t get to see their eyes the first time this scene comes up, besides the first time they open them. Hard to read from that. But sort of plays into the added theory at the end of this post--
The second time it goes back to this motif-- my girlfriend jus t pointed this out like last night I love her It follows the mirror scene, and there’s...
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One-- who’s in the mirror
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Two-- who’s head bows
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Three...?
The one in the mirror changed expressions far too quickly, and the one closer to us isn’t making that expression; if it were his reflection, his thumb should be reflected too..?
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We come back to blue, and he falls back-- This look of horror feels genuine. Again, maybe it could be Mikoto, simply unaware and being confronted with his DID-- Or could be Aokoto, being confronted with everything.
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As the water goes red, if we assume it’s blood/representation of the murder, then.... Well, if Mikoto killed someone, and Orekoto was cleaning up the mess, then they both would be pretty well aware, right? So what’s this expression for?
We cut to him in the bath, washing off the blood. An air around him that reads more like Orekoto to me, but I digress-- We go back to blue.
And here.
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These eyes feel fake.
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I don’t know what exactly it is about it-- his eyes, expression, movement, but here, all I can read as genuine about him is desperation, to sweep it all under the rug, to convince. Maybe it’s Aokoto trying to convince himself. Maybe it’s Mikoto or Orekoto trying to convince you.
Personally, I feel like it’s Mikoto now, but that’s just personal vibes. I think Mikoto puts on the act, loosely mimicking Aokoto’s sweeter presence
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then drops it, issuing a sort of warning,
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and Orekoto comes in at the very end, telling us that we’re done now.
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Maybe. I don’t know. I wish I knew a single thing about tarot cuz that might help.
But, my friends and I have been toying with the idea that Aokoto may have split off right after the murder-- An alter that’s meant to carry no stress at all, giving the body a few moments to just relax... Maybe? but that part’s not based on anything besides. there’s probably a lot of stress wrapped up in this boy.
-- Ah, I’m also leaning toward the idea that it was Aokoto who spoke for the first part of their interrogation with Es-- There could have been an act there too of course, but at times he just sounded... too genuinely confused, scared? It makes one wonder.
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undercoverxs · 1 year
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mik09to: YOOOOOO WELCOME BACK, HOPE YOU'VE BEEN WELL!
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((EYOOOOO I have been!!! hope you have too!!!
milgram was so far from my mind for a minute there but they gave me futa aND es content and I'm dYING
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undercoverxs · 2 years
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"Oh man, it's noisy out here today, huh." A flicker of emotions flash across his face, a shutter shot that piles an array of expressions: first, the mask of apprehensive curiosity. Then, recognition. The third, one of his usual easy smiles, the ones worth ¥100 a piece that you could get anywhere from anyone.
"Ah, so it's Guard-kun. Hey, I've been meaning to talk to you." His head tilts one ways, and something tinges on his smile. "You see, I'm a designer, so I have to pay attention to the latest fashion, you know? So I was wondering," Innocent in the drawl, sinister in intent, like an older sibling hiding a bug between their clasped hands. "Why do you wear those heels? Aren't they kind of impractical? Though a lot of fashion is like that, I guess. Ah! Wait, I got it. You want to seem more intimidating, right?" Taller, more like?
( hi! 8) sorry, could not resist bullying them a little too <3 )
Thinking about such inconsequential things... It's fine, of course. Maybe preferred. But when plucked from the depths of their thoughts, it can only be described as jarring -- such blasé words...
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They look over Mikoto. At first, there was a curiosity alight in their eyes. At first. But being spoken to by the prisoners: it almost never justified that. The irritation that hooded half of their expression quickly sunk into all of it; though their face didn't move an inch, the radiation could melt anything.
"This is my uniform. I didn't pick it."
Quick. Dry. This conversation will amount to nothing useful, as they see it. If it could be cut off quickly...
( You're not as clever as you think, anyway, disguising the prod under such a thin layer. ) ( It's not even a clever thing to prod at. This is the third time in one day...! )
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"If it's fashion you're into, shouldn't you talk to one of the girls?" They couldn't even pretend to indulge. Avoid Shidou, that's the only semi-relevant remark they have on the subject...
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