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#meanwhile doof and perry are ABOUT TO BE KILLED???
raining-anonymously · 7 months
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i still can’t believe there was a phineas and ferb episode where a man hunted perry and doof for sport with the implicit goal of murdering them both and keeping them as trophies
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anonymouscatloaf · 7 months
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i've got a vague idea for a gen longfic sequel-ish to ATSD & that "back to the 2nd dimension" ep from s4 where 2D doof, charlene, and vanessa escape with a cyborg peter still under mind control to regain control of their tri-state area and the next (charlene claiming that in their "divorce", she should really get her own tri-state area, obviously)
unfortunately the only concrete scene i have in my head rn is some situation in which 2D doof has to choose between saving his daughter and something time-sensitive that will further his Evil Plans (TM) and he ultimately chooses evil over vanessa.
1D doof, who is nearby for as-of-yet undetermined reasons, has a perfect opportunity to strike but gives it up to save his not-daughter.
other ideas i wanna implement:
for the longest time, they dont hear from heinz/charlene/vanessa at all. until one day 2D baljeet manages to intercept communication from vanessa doofenshmirtz to someone in danville, confirming charlene/heinz's intention to invade the first dimension as well. more importantly, this means there must be some kind of traitor in their midst (dun dun dun - this is like the only plot thread i had planned out tbh lol)
the resistance/reformed owca wants to head off the doofenshmirtzes' attack on the first dimension except of course everyone except owca had their memory wiped of that day so they run into problems almost instantly bc they dont know about the mind wipe
in the first dimension it's post-s4 and doof is a science teacher. everything in his life is going well!
not.
he gets kidnapped by 2D monogram & some of the firestorm girls, is VERY confused. the resistance quickly realizes he has no memory of their dimension
meanwhile at the FF household perry has to intercept 2D pnf + platyborg before they descend on his unsuspecting owners for help. drags them down to his lair, where apparently the other 2D animal agents + 2D carl have already been talking to 1D monogram & carl finds out about the second team that went for 1D doof. runs off to go rescue him bc god damn it why is this his life
2D doofs have a Plan to make sure no resistance can rise up against them again. it is a very Horrifying and Irreversible Plan.
2D candace is still officially "retired" until the resistance has concrete plans in place for retaliation & containing the doofenshmirtz family
2D stacy was killed by normbots before the events of ATSD - inspiration for 2D candace to end up leader of the resistance. 2D candace gets to meet 1D stacy at some point :)
also we finally go somewhere with that "stacy knows perry's secret" thing since perry is adamant about keeping the flynn-fletchers away from this mess lest monogram try to relocate him. again. so stacy is on "distract your bff and the kids duty"
2D vanessa redemption
maybe i should just start writing this and see where it gets me tbh
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iwasbored777 · 2 years
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Gonna compare Heinz Doofenshmirtz and Gabriel Agreste Garbage Agreste again:
Remember that platypus hunter who had mommy issues and he wanted to kill Perry and Doof said "Wow what's wrong with you?! We're enemies but not that kind of enemies! I just want to capture him and then he runs away and we do that every day, I don't want him dead!"
Meanwhile Garbage is like "I'm gonna yeet three kids, who cares if they break their necks? Son, how about I show you your mother's corpse? Lmao look this is your amok and you're a senti watch me force you to kill your girlfriend who's a 14-year-old. Or should I yeet her lol it's gonna be so fun to watch! What, my secretary is ill because I let her use the same miraculous that put my wife in a coma? No problem, just give her mechanic legs and she'll be ready for work tomorrow."
I would like to see Doof reacting to this maniac.
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So… I clicked on your Marvel tag and, because I am a cruel, cruel person, what do you think would happen if Perry, Candace, and Vanessa got snapped instead of Phineas, Ferb, and Dr. Doofenshmirtz? Obviously, the gang probably wouldn’t remain completely intact, so one or more of Isabella, Buford, and Baljeet would have also been dusted. Like, Candace and Vanessa would end up the same age as Phineas and Ferb, and Doof would lose his entire support system (except maybe Norm).
ooh throwback to the first snap au 👀
First of all, HOW DARE YOU
Secondly, I think this would throw off the PnF gang just as much as losing Phineas and Ferb would but in a completely different way. I think losing Candace would really dull the boys' spark, and they'd really stop wanting to build things. The rest of the gang (whoever's left of it, at least) would want to be there for them, but they'd be facing their own losses as well, and I think eventually they'd stop hanging out too much. They'd be friendly enough at school, but by the time they've started recovering emotionally, their friendship would pretty much be over. One day they'll look back on it as just a summer thing when they were kids.
I think what happens to Doof is entirely dependant on who remains at OWCA. The best case scenario (for him, at least) would probably be if Monty, Mrs. Monogram, and Carl were all snapped out of existence, leaving Major Monogram with pretty much nothing left. I think they might be able to help each other if they're both feeling the same loss because they'd both need someone to lean on. But if any of Monogram's family or friends (well, friend. there's Carl. other than that, he has no friends) survive, Monogram will doubtlessly lean on them instead.
I think the other possible alternative where Doof comes out on top (or, you know, not on the bottom) is if Monty loses everyone he loves. He doesn't necessarily have the best relationship with his parents, but he loves them despite Major Monogram's their flaws. If Carl gets snapped, too, Monty would naturally be the next in line to take over OWCA. I don't think he'd want to, but I think he'd feel compelled to when he saw the messes that were the OWCA agents and the LOVEMUFFIN scientists. Half of them will have lost their nemesis, you know? They need guidance. And if Monty's in charge, he's going to make it his personal duty to keep track of who's alive and who's not, so he'd keep an eye on all the scientists.
I have to think he wouldn't know who's been snapped? I'm assuming OWCA would be in contact with Fury and Monty would know what's going on, but Fury wouldn't have all the answers so Monty would have to go to all the scientists' empty lairs when he doesn't hear from them. He wouldn't want to go to Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc after losing Vanessa, but it's been dead silent here anyway; it'll just be a quick-in, quick-out (and maybe a brief conversation with Norm).
Obviously, that's not the case; Doof is just sitting there in the dark — and probably crying if he has any tears left. They both love Vanessa, they both like Perry, and they both have complicated-but-probably-positive relationships with Major Monogram, so they'd have a lot in common. I think Monty would take pity on him and sit down with him and just hang out. There'd be some talking, maybe some crying, probably a lot of silence, but in the end, they'd both appreciate the other's company, and I think that might almost evolve into a substitute father-child relationship to make up for the ones they just lost. It's not the same, but they have to make due where they can, right?
Alternatively, maybe there's nobody left for Doof. Maybe there is, but they don't want anything to do with him. Either way, Doof would be all alone, and maybe he'd want to let it that way. Maybe he'd unplug the phone. Maybe he'd put a sign on the door asking for people to stay away. Maybe he'd turn Norm off. He'd cope by shutting everyone out — not that there's really anyone left for him to let in anyway — and fall into a deep, years-long hopeless depression. I don't think there's a single possible outcome where he thrives; I think it's just a matter of how much he suffers.
I do have to wonder if it would be a possibility for him to reconnect with his blood family. I'd hope he wouldn't want to see his parents, but he still loves his mother and he still respects his father; maybe he would want to if they'd want to see him. Maybe Roger got snapped and Heinz tries to talk to his parents about it. Maybe it goes well; maybe they call him a schnitzel and kick him out because they're grieving, too, and they don't have time for him. Alternatively, maybe Roger survives and he loses everyone close to him. Maybe Melanie gets snapped away and he loses his closest friend/maybe girlfriend. Maybe their parents are snapped away, too, and Heinz is the only one he knows would understand. (Bear in mind that Roger really doesn't understand the scope of their parents' hatred for Heinz; he knows he was the favorite but he doesn't seem to have much of a grasp on just how miserable Heinz's childhood was. Because Heinz still wants his parents' love and respect, I don't think Roger will ever really understand what his brother went through.) I don't know if Heinz would accept an olive branch from his brother. I do think that if it went the other way, Roger would accept one from Heinz. If Heinz decides he'd like Roger back in his life, I think it would work out.
I think the interesting part would be what happens afterwards. Perry obviously fits like a glove. His boys love him; Doof would literally have mourned him until his own dying day if that's how it played out; Candace didn't even realize they were both gone. He'd be upset to have missed such a big part of his boys' lives, but overall, things would be fine.
Candace, meanwhile, would probably have the hardest time adjusting. Her annoying little brothers aren't even little anymore, for god's sake! And they'd be do different, too. No more building; no more little posse of kids; everything changed in literally the blink of an eye for her. And what about Jeremy? What if he didn't get blipped and he found someone else? He'd be thrilled to see her again, obviously, but probably not enough to break up with whoever he's seeing right now. Alternatively, maybe Jeremy got blipped and Little Suzie didn't, so she and Jeremy can bond over their little siblings growing up so fast.
I think the only one(s?) who would have it worse would be the ones from the main gang that got blipped. They'd all been in elementary school together, and now some of them are in high school. They might all try to become friend again and maybe it works for the older kids, but it's such a big gap in both age and maturity that I don't think they'd ever be the same. The blipped kid(s) would probably have to make new friends and start all over.
Vanessa would be welcome back with open arms. Then those arms would wrap around her and not let her go until she was literally about to pass out from lack of oxygen. If Monty wasn't blipped, he definitely would have moved on, but I'd like to think they'd still be friends? I also think seeing Ferb all grown up (or, you know, 14ish years old) might expedite the dating process. I also think that would make Candace incredibly uncomfortable — more so than I think it did in canon because not only is that her friend and her little brother, but it's a reminder that he's really not that little anymore.
I'd like to think that if Doof did make friends with someone (one of the Monogram boys or Roger), they stay friends. It absolutely boggles Vanessa's mind when she comes back to it, but it just makes Perry happy to see that he wasn't completely miserable. I don't think he'd go back to evil, but he and Perry would still hang out (and it would take Perry a while to get used to the idea of going to DEI without getting trapped). Vanessa might kill her dad when she finds out he turned Norm off to mope in peace, but they'd dust him off and turn him back on and they'd explain everything to him.
I don't think things would ever go back to the way they were, but, ultimately, I think it would all be fine. It'll take a few years, but I think everyone would ultimately adjust just fine to their new lives.
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