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#like i deadass have a coffee shop au for all of them (they’re humans and have vaguely intersecting lives)
carelesscuriosity · 6 months
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mentally ill urge to design a wc clan…
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seerofmike · 4 years
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i feel like a huge portion of kpop fans are gay fetishists attracted to the idea of quote unquote feminine men and thats why theres so much bullshit
YES okay. okay let me rant for a minute. let me preface this by saying i am NOT a kpop shipper at ALL. this is going to be long so i’ll put it under a’ ‘read more’ because i’ve been holding it in for TWO FUCKING YEARS BABY!
being mlm in boygroup kpop fandom is literally so exhausting. 99% of the people who ship real life human men from boygroups are fetishists and i will tell u why
obviously we all know of a ship in a fandom where the characters' personalities are twisted to fit the heteronormative view of "top" and "bottom" --one character is hypermasculine (top) and the other one is feminine (bottom). there are typical traits associated with both. the ‘top’ is scary or mean or angry or serious while the ‘bottom’ is emotional or bubbly or shy. while this is egregious, at least its fictional characters. their personalities can be simplified or exaggerated and it doesnt cause any real life harm.
im going to define what i think of as a fetishist: a non-mlm person who overly sexualizes gay men/men they think are gay/gay ships, and forces them into heteronormative roles for their own pleasure. its not even limited to cishet women. plenty of non-mlm lgbt people do this too and its like disheartening. so anyways
enter the kpop fandom
i may be incredibly biased here because one of the most affected members [of bts] is my favorite kpop boy, but oh god is the ‘personality change/simplification’ thing AWFUL here. i do not go out of my way to find fanart or see fanfic threads, but being in the bts fandom, u will inevitably see it and i REALLY wish i didnt
so anyways. my favorite boy ever is hoseok. he is sweet and hardworking and very passionate about dance and he can be serious when needed, but ultimately he tries to be very lighthearted and will consistently laugh or make jokes or do something funny when the other members feel uncomfortable or awkward (mostly during english-speaking interviews). he kisses the members on the cheek a lot/hugs them a lot/cuddles them a lot [this is important for later okay]
of course, theres a lot more to him because he is a multi-faceted real life human being, and i don’t know him personally, but that’s a general idea of what he’s like, okay?
SHIPPERS will have you think differently. some video got popular on youtube ""proving"" that hoseok is a sadist (which is just clips of him jokingly playfighting with the younger members), and the video depicts him as secretly mean and serious, and shippers will use that to say "hoseok is a total top!" and then most fanart or imagines or fanfic threads you see are top!hoseok, using this imagined 'hoseok is a sadistic dom' narrative to fuel their fiction, because SOMEONE has to be the top, so they twist him into this hypermasculine mean person (and probably feminize the 'bottom' of their ship but more on that later)
EXCEPT it is not just fiction. this narrative bleeds into REAL LIFE. you have new armys who dont know anything about the shipping scene, and yet somehow the narrative of hoseok being a secretly mean, sadistic person has already made its way into them. in real life, hoseok likes rainbows and wearing nail stickers and putting glitter in his hair. yet people in the fandom will say shit like "hoseok hates femininity" "hoseok would never wear [thing] because he's a dom"
sometimes on twitter you have ppl like me who say uh actually you guys are really weird and this is fetishy and in real life hoseok is very nice and not sadistic at all, you will UNDOUBTEDLY get comments like "omg hoseok isnt cute/nice when will yall learn he’s secretly like [x] and [x]". you could post a video of hoseok with a puppy titled "wow cute" and u will get like 2 clowns in ur comments going 'hoseok isnt CUTE hes a sadist’ . i wish i was joking but i am not. they will do this for EVERY action hoseok does. he cannot blink without people twisting it into a sexual thing
[also, side note: its funny that, since hoseok is one of the least popular members and therefore one of the least shipped members, he is often the odd man out among pairings, and is assigned 'the straight one' by default, and 9 times out of 10 people who assign him 'the straight one' do all this 'dom daddy hoseok' shit.
which just goes to show that this is indeed a matter of heteronormativity.]
so anyways arguably the most popular ship with hoseok is with yoongi, sope. this absolutely happens to other ships probably but im just using them as an example because i see it the most, being a hobi stan
yoongi is very calm and thoughtful and kind and sometimes appears to be cold/having a bad attitude but its just because of the way he speaks, which is very bluntly. again hes a multi faceted real human and i do not know him personally but thats generally what hes like.
god the fandom. treats him SO BAD. so horribly. he's shorter than hoseok. he's shorter than hoseok and people will exaggerate that literal 1 inch height difference so bad and people will turn his whole personality into shy and blushy and In Love With Hoseok, so in love with hoseok that ‘he gets sad’ when hoseok doesn’t kiss him/hug him/or whatever and IT BLEEDS INTO REAL LIFE.
ANY time hoseok or yoongi do ANYTHING together at ALL, people will ALWAYS push the narrative that hoseok, being the mean sadist he is, is 'hurting' yoongi for not returning his undying love or whatever. hoseok did a vlive where he made bracelets for all the members and he considered putting a cat charm on yoongi's but ultimately decided not to because he was having difficulty and oh my GOD sope stans twisted it into 'hoseok HATES yoongi, yoongi would have been so happy, he would have worn that all the time, hoseok isnt affectionate he hates being close with other people after all :(' which is LITERALLY not true because hoseok gives all his homies good night kisses but okay! whatever fits your narrative!
PEOPLE ACTUALLY HATE HOSEOK BECAUSE OF THIS. BECAUSE OF A SHIP. BECAUSE OF THE MANUFACTURED NARRATIVE PUSHED ONTO HIM BY FETISHISTS SO HE COULD FIT INTO THEIR HETERONORMATIVE ‘TOP’ ROLE. not to be all wahh wahh hoseok is one of the least popular members BUT THIS IS LITERALLY A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.
everyone """headcanons""" hoseok to be a top so they will make him a MEAN HYPERMASCULINE person. everyone """headcanons""" yoongi as a bottom so they will make him a SOFT UWU HYPERFEMININE person. shippers are literally pigeonholing the two of them into fujoshi-esque roles for jack-off material.
anyways this all boils down to: gay fetishists will do anything, ANYTHING, to twist characters or real life fucking people to fit their heteronormative view of top and bottom. top=mean and masculine, bottom=soft and feminine. hoseok is a real life human being. yoongi is a real life human being. they both have real life human personalities, and yet shippers twist their personalities into the opposite to fit their narrative, to the point where nonshippers will genuinely view the two of them as something theyre not.
you have tons of armys that theorize that hoseok's happiness is just a mask he puts on to hide a cruel nature. on twitter. on youtube. in fanart and fanfiction. you have tons of armys that truly believe that, despite literally all the evidence, believe he hates being cute, he hates being happy, he hates the members, and hes secretly a dom daddy fuckboy who wants to bend yoongi over a table. hes a real life human being and fetishists doing their fetish thing has real life consequences.
the same is true for bottom!hoseok stans: they overexaggerate his more cutesy personality traits and he does have a 'feminine' figure i.e. he has a rly small waist but they will overexaggerate that as well and give him huge hips and its disgusting but dom!hoseok is far more frequent with far more devastating consequences so i used that as an example but they’re both bad.
people who """"headcanon"""" [like actually headcanon/firmly believe and not just joking or lighthearted] that members are gay will force these types of roles onto the members. if someone genuinely believes that like, yoongi is gay/bi/whatever, and then try to force this subby soft uwu persona onto him, they have no respect for gay people. they dont. gay people are simply objects for their fantasies. their view of gay people is so one-dimensional and so driven by fetishists’ ideas that its actually disheartening.
and god bitches will deadass be homophobic yet still ship real ass human idols. not just for bts specifically but all boygroup fandoms. sometimes when you search up an idol's name, [idol] gay will be trending--whether it be because of people saying "im gay for him" or whatever, and a LOT of cishet people will try 'clearing' the searches because being gay is bad or something. people normally ‘clear’ the searches if something like [idol fat] or [idol ugly] are trending, which im telling you so you know the context that people only clear the searches when bad things are happening.
[never forget that time 'jungkook gay' was trending and bitches were like "lets clear the searches!" but their pinned tweet said some shit like "sub jungkook x dom jimin coffee shop smut au thread 🌈". bitches also be like i cant be homophobic i ship taekook]
and hoseok and yoongi arent the only ones affected ! we could get into why namjoon and jin (another popular ship) are often assigned 'dad' and 'mom' respectively, or the fact that gay fetishists not only twist members' personalities to fit their ship narrative, but will also force tropes onto them i.e. taehyung/jungkook shippers who will literally demonize jimin and call him a slut or say that he's trying to 'get in the way of' of taekook or 'steal' taehyung/jungkook but thats a whole DIFFERENT rant baby! racism/asian fetishism is also definitely a present factor in all of this but this focus was primarily on gay fetishism and heteronormativity.
oh my god i could also get into the severe transphobia/trans fetishism in this fandom too but this post is already long enough as it is
tl dr: gay fetishists will fetishize real life people and it has actual real life effects and we should ban straight women from shipping mlm
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panda-noosh · 6 years
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The Paladins as Time Lords {Headcanon}{DoctorWho!Au}
   Someone stop me.
   PS. This is me writing this as if you were there companion and they're the time-lord. Please enjoy my lovelies xxxx
   Shiro:
   he's that Time Lord.
   you know, that Time Lord.
   he's the one that is so incredibly serious and strict about every little thing you two do.
  whenever you two first met, Shiro didn't want you coming with him at all. though he never liked being on his own, and he knew he would enjoy having a companion, the idea of throwing an innocent and unknowing mortal into the world he lives in would be a big enough reason for him to not do it.
   but you're insistent, and the way you handled those Slitheens a few days ago was amazing, so why the hell not?
   so he takes you with him, and thus begins this weird journey of not knowing exactly what is going on.
   he lives by the words, “Stepping on a butterfly in this universe could alter everything back home.” they're literally what he says to you whenever you do anything.
   he doesn't like letting you out of his sight, but a lot of the time he has no choice. you two manage to get split up a whole bunch during your time together.
   but you always find each other again, and it's always cute and he always checks to see if you're injured.
   and he always says, “I'm never letting you out of my sight again,” before, of course, letting you out of his sight.
   even though he hates to admit it, you really do keep him grounded. you're a big reason he doesn't just get lost in space somewhere – he wants to keep you alive.
   he's best friends with your parents, even though they have no idea who he is.
   his style choice is a good old trench coat with a tie.
   Keith:
   I can imagine Keith just finding you in the TARDIS and not knowing what to do lmao.
   you're that guy.
   you were most likely drunk one day and you just found yourself wandering into this public call box before you collapsed on the ground and everything went black.
   Keith would walk into the TARDIS after a nice day out in London to see you lying there and he genuinely just sips his coffee and sighs.
   “mortals~”
   he wakes you up by throwing water on your face, you refuse to leave, and thus begins the adventures!
   the way he drives the TARDIS is god awful. he crashes into everything and he doesn't even care. he just kind of hums to himself whenever he gets out of it to see the crash mark on the side of it.
   he hates going forward in time. modern technology confuses him enough as it is – let alone going 2,000 into the future to see what the mortals have come up with since then.
   going back in time is his favourite. he's a big fan of the fashion of the 19th century.
   he walks everywhere?? like, even though there's a damn alien spaceship crashing into the ocean in front of him, you'll never catch him running to get to it.
   and a lot of the time he has his face buried in some Time Lord device that you don't know how to use, but it always beeps and makes loads of noise and Keith enjoys yelling curse words at it sometimes so you don't really want to know how to work it.
   he pretends he doesn't appreciate having a companion. whenever you two argue, he'll often use the excuse that he was perfectly fine on his own, just because he knows it hurts you.
   but he knows himself that finding you passed out on the floor is the best thing that's ever happened to him.
   he tries to teach you how to fly the TARDIS, but after one lesson he gets jealous and stops.
   Lance:
   you two meet whenever Lance lands in the middle of wherever you live and he has no idea where he is.
   imagine it; walking down the street with your headphones in, barely acknowledging the world around you, when suddenly this man with sticking up hair and a smoking coat is grabbing onto your shoulders, yelling about how it's the end of time and how he's certain this is heaven and all this.
   you'll just look at him like boi i'm late for work.
   but he wouldn't let you leave, and you'd end up having to drag him into the nearest coffee shop and getting him a cup of tea to calm him down.
   you'd tell him that the world has not, in fact, ended and that everything is okay, and he'll explain himself and tell you all about everything that's going on.
   you wouldn't believe him when he tells you that there are aliens soon coming to attack the very place you live in, but then it happens and you're helping him fight them even though you have no idea what's going on.
   after the battle is over, he'll ask you to travel with him and you'll say yes, because there's just something so damn endearing about this man that makes you want to spend more time with him.
   so you two travel together and the adventure begins.
  he's the type of Time Lord that you have to tell the rules to, even though he's the one that's been flying through space for 900 years.
   like, he'll get so used to the polite etiquette of the 19th century, that whenever he arrives back in modern day time, he completely forgets how to act.
   he's greeting your mother with a bow, and calling her 'm'lady' and asking where the hand-maiden is.
   to cover his ass, you'll laugh and tell him to stop joking about, reminding him that he is no longer having dinner with Charles Dickens, but is in fact eating fish and chips with your parents.
   I don't feel like Lance has a favourite time to be in?? He enjoys them all. he enjoys being in the future a lot because he likes to see how humans have advanced over time, and he likes to visit people he once travelled with to see how they've aged, and to make sure they're safe.
   that's a quirk he has – he never lets his companions die when they're with him. whenever they get put in too much danger, he'll just disappear one day and let you live out your life wondering where he is and where he went to.
   but he always visits them afterwards. whenever he's certain they're old and grey and can't tell reality from fantasy. he'll just stand in front of them and talk about all of the good things they did, and they'll wake up the next morning, unknowing if it's just their ageing brain that tricked them or if their Time Lord was actually there.
   Hunk:
   why can I imagine him just being so unprofessional?
   like, deadass. is he even a Time Lord? did he just get thrown into this world by accident?
  because half the time, he has no idea what he's doing.
   he'd probably be recruiting damn companions, because he knows full well he'll end up getting lost in time if he doesn't have somebody there keeping him right.
   so he ends up looking for partners, stumbles across you, and wa-la. you're suddenly flying through space with this screaming muscle man.
   that's what he does when he's flying the TARDIS. he starts screaming and gets motion sickness, but he still knows how to fly it.
   “when did you learn how to fly it?”
   “i didn't. it's like it's drilled into my brain.”
  “oh. safe.”
    you two go on holidays. Hunk doesn't fuck with this whole 'going to 20th century London in the freezing cold winter' stuff. if you two are going anywhere, it's present day Hawaii and you're going to enjoy yourselves.
   but then sometimes there's trouble in 20th century London in the freezing cold winter, so he has no choice but to go and show his face.
   and even though he panics and gets worked up really easily, he's probably the best out of them all when it comes to actually getting rid of the bad guys.
   it takes a little bit longer than what everybody else would take, but he gets it done very quietly and very well since he's big on planning his attacks.
   he wouldn't want you to be there with him during the actual process of fighting aliens, but you always manage to show up and he just gets tired of warning you.
   I can imagine him telling you off for stepping on a leaf on the pavement, before he himself completely wipes out a rubbish bin or something.
   “that's gonna change the present day now. good job.”
   “shuT UP I'M THE TIME LORD HERE.”
   he's also best friends with your parents, but I can imagine him meeting them completely by accident.
  like, you went inside to go and pack some of your stuff so you can travel with him again and he waits outside your window, looking in nervously.
   your dad turns around and just sees this massive man in a bow tie looking at him through the window, to which you have to explain that Hunk is your boyfriend and that he means no harm.
   Hunk gets all flustered and you two never bring it up again.
   Pidge:
  she basically lived in 20th century Ireland until she was forced to go to the modern day.
   she enjoyed the atmosphere of the 20th century. she saw the Titanic leave Belfast, saw Queen Elizabeth's reign happen in England – she saw all sorts.
   but then she realised she had to go and get some stuff done in the 21st century, and her salty ass dragged herself out of the 20th century to go and deal with it.
  and this is where she met you, and she seems to cold at first because she really, really doesn't want to be there.
   but you're consistent, because you saw the TARDIS land and you have questions.
   she tries to ignore you the entire day, but you follow her around, yelling your questions at her until she eventually just shoves you into a coffee shop, sits you down and tells you who she is, before promptly warning you to keep your mouth shut.
   she storms off after that, grumbling about how “Nelson Mandela wouldn't ask me so many questions.”
   but then she finds herself in trouble with the aliens she is there to fight, and the only person who is willing to save her is – oh, what a surprise – you.
   and you save her, so Pidge gets all soft and apologises for snapping at you early, which then leads to her offering you a space in the TARDIS which you take almost immediately, thus beginning your adventures with Pidge.
   she is definitely cold to you for the first few weeks. she tells you not to touch anything, and whenever you're in the TARDIS, she basically makes you sit in the corner until you arrive at your destination.
   and whenever you arrive, she has a habit of walking a little bit too fast, meaning you often find yourself getting lost because Pidge has suddenly disappeared off the face of the damn earth.
   but she always finds you – she would never just abandon you in the middle of the 15th century.
   she's quite a careless Time Lord, I think. or at least, she acts like it.
   deep down, the only reason why she can be hostile and stuff is because she is the last of her kind. she watched all of her Time Lord friends die during the war, and that's given her quite a large amount of trust issues.
   she really only keeps herself alive and healthy because she knows that the world would go to absolute shit if she ends up dying.
   she tells you this one day, just randomly. you don't ask her or anything – she just starts telling you about the Fall of Galiffrey.
   she's really surprised when you listen, since she didn't think you'd care.
  but all of a sudden you're setting your cup of noodles down and you're giving her a hug, nearly sobbing into her shoulder as you tell her how sorry you are that she had to go through that, see those things.
   and she's hugging you back, even though she has no idea why.
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