#kf2 lore

[keystone8379]

keystone you should talk about something in regards to kirby fighters 2 community edition

Oh you're right I haven't done that yet! Regarding Kirby Fighters 2: Community Edition, there is a metric TON of stuff to talk about here. The dev team is some of the closest friends I've ever had. Smash Tactics is a thing because I was able to test the game over and over again with the members of the dev team. We've spent many hours sharing progressively crazier character ideas. We have created some warcrime moves. (or, well, more warcrime moves. KF2 already has plenty of those) I think, however, the best place to start for CE on the KF2 lore account is probably just a development history.

So it's late September, the year is 2020. Kirby Fighters 2 was leaked, got a trailer, and released all within the span of 24 hours. Soon after that, firubii (you might have seen her before) shows her findings from a Twitter datamine, that being evidence of a 3D Kirby game. "Wow! Awesome! I sure hope it's nothing like Battle Royale!" I say at the time. But I digress.

A few months pass and eventually fish gets in touch with Firubii for I believe checking hitboxes and frame data? We get a few things for some of the weirder moves from characters like Ninja, but the fact that a modder was among us got people excited. The prospect of a balance patch mod was an undeniably appealing one and could breathe new life (and a time) into the game. And one that Firubii was interested in.

March 16th, 2021 rolls around and Fish pings everyone saying that they had set up a poll for balance suggested for Firubii to implement. They also got an all star cast of top players and fighting game expects and colgate and me. because I "have lots of opinions." We're all put into a dev chat and poll responses start flowing in.

This poll was crazy. You had Ninja downplaying Mag like crazy. You had Celica Trying His Best. You had nonsense adjustment suggestions like "Not really that effective." But my favourite would have to be probably Qwertz saying to EVERY balance suggestion box "The game needs no balance changes, only quality of life changes."

So we all in the chat start throwing around ideas while not really getting anything done. This will be a running theme. About a month later I was like enough is enough and starting pinging people for proper balance discussions and locking in changes. There's a few notable things we did for v0.1, including making Sword a LOT faster, giving Hammer Palutena's Lightweight, (the s4 custom move) making Bandana Dee's spears stick into the ground for a few seconds, and making Cutter's boomerangs bounce off walls. That last one was our first real criminal change, as Cutter could effortlessly lock down the entire screen. I spent hours labbing counterplay only to find none and grew to despise the character and suggested massive overcorrections for v0.2. Oops.

Overall v0.1 was pretty good! It had some iffy stuff and launched with a Whip desync in game but other than that it was a success I think. It came out during July of 2021, a little under 4 months from the initial announcement. There's a few public tourneys with good turnouts but run via Parsec and Parsec makes me want to commit violent crimes. Progress on 0.2 also goes fairly well. There's some bad ideas in there like making MK not very fun but overall it's not so bad.

Until development just HALTS. To my understanding, I believe it was something personal Firubii was going through but I don't have all the info. Then again, I didn't ask. Like sure, I'd like to have the new CE versions as soon as possible, but ultimately the well being of the people actually making the mod is the top priority, it's why it's so irritating when people are jerks about CE's slow development. Obviously I want the new versions out. But we all have lives outside of this and sometimes other things need doing.

Eventually 0.2 gets out, at the start of Febuary 2022. It's solid but still has some things that irk me. After a few months, we ask for player feedback on overall balance and specific changes and get not many results. Granted, CE doesn't have much players so balance discussion is somewhat meaningless for a game this unexplored. I think 1.0 fixes all of the glaring flaws though.

At some point, once again, development freezes, and this one was rough. No communication from Firubii led to a lot of dooming, especially with how close we got to actually launching 1.0. We DO actually know why she vanished for so long this time, it's because her house caught fire. It didn't burn down don't worry! But this still caught us all SUPER off guard.

Anyway, CE resumed development and went for a little while, but hit a brick wall when trying to add training mode. I'm not an expert on the inner workings of KF2 but I know Firubii talked to Ryn (yes, the goku in strive Ryn) about it a little bit. I actually posted about this to my Threads account but who gives a shit about threads. That's more or less where we are now. It's been a while since the last tester build but what can you do.

There's also a few other things but there wasn't really a good place for them. Colgate thought it was a good idea to make a tierlist video for a game no one could play. It wasn't. I had to spend the days after that video doing damage control. There was a playlist where people could suggest songs to add to CE, but tbh it was more just an excuse to listen to music in VC while we could still do that. We were gonna move off Gamebanana because the site is run by N*zis but this was during the fire arc so didn't happen. AV also thought it'd be a good idea to shittalk CE and ask to join the dev team in the same day. There was also the time we had to rush out a trailer for Savi's Dream Display but I have a few criticisms about that which I'll share with him one day.

I think that's it? If you wanna download the mod I'll link it right here: https://gamebanana.com/mods/303920

#kirby fighters 2 #kf2 #fighting games #fighting game community #community edition #KF2CE #mod #kf2 lore

[stardustshimmer]

Yo, I honestly am starting to get into metadede. I just find her diametric to be so adorable and even find it really interesting that it's actually (probably) Canon in the Kirby lore, due to the story mode of fighters 2 I'm the dedede and meta knight boss fight has sworn partners. It just feels like they're made for them.

For real, like even though going through the final chapter of KF2 was absolute heck for me, it was 100% worth the experience of seeing these two share such a strong bond.

Now me personally, I wouldn’t necessarily call the ship canon (“sworn partners” could mean lovers to one person, but best friends to another), but you can definitely see the possibility of a ship. But if I’m wrong about that, please scold me.

Two men in a giant tower. How romantic <3

Glad you’re getting more interested!

#random asks #stardust's mystical mailbox #kirby #metadede #metadedede #kirby fighters 2

[nmoroder]

In Killing Floor 2, in the Map "Desolation", there's a uniqur background Zed which we don't get to fight or interact with. It's some sort of Gorefast with both arms still, a green appearance like it's filled with chlorophyll, and a vine attached to the back of its head dangling it from the ceiling. It just presses its hamd against the glass window to the room its in. The Killing Floor 2 Wiki calls it a "Vinehead Gorefast". Sometimes it's head is even replaced with a blooming flower. What do you think the Vinehead Gorefast would be like as a new Gorefast variant, like the Gorefiend?

fun fact i asked my friend who still has kf2 installed to check it out and when he found the place, he killed a zed next to it and the glass got all splattered w blood so when the wave ended we could barely see the thing haha

anyway im not sure, it looks more like an unfortunate specimen caught by vegetation, most likely unable to move or function at all. if plants are gonna be our enemies as kf lore progresses, i'll be happy to see the vineboi around but without that i don't believe it would fit (however i as well don't think matriarch fits the lore atm and she's still a part of it, so who am i to decide. it's more of an opinion)

#moroderasks #killing floor 2

[luminumi]

Happy birthday to love!

#lumi.txt #I'm talking about my hero and the King of Dreamland ofc! #they look quite nice together! #apparently their coupling started with... something about a tower... #>happy anniversary to KF2! weird lore but. Metadede<

[killingfloor-fans]

Killing Lore: Killing Floor’s Story

this video explains most of the story pretty well, I really like it. Give it a watch if you’re interested.

#i watched it long ago but ive decided to share it #kiling floor #killing floor lore #kf #kf2 #kf1 #killing floor 2

[makerofmadness]

hello! i noticed u said you were confused abt the opposites angle when it comes to mirror worlder characterization and i wanted to explain my pov as someone who does ascribe to that (with all respect, it’s cool if you disagree! i just wanted to clarify my point of view if it’s np - also, you don’t have to answer this ask if you don’t want to, i’m just rambling lol)

- I’d take TV Tropes pages for Kirby w/ a grain of salt (& i say this as someone who tends to frequent them a lot) bc they tend to have a lot of inaccuracies, confusing hcs/fan theories with canon and the like

- The thing about Mirror Worlders being born from the darkness of the originals is that it’s p much only stated in non-canon spinoffs (Clash, KF2, etc.) so it’s kinda dubious. Burade’s pause screen is a tad ambiguous so I wouldn’t say it necessarily it means he’s inherently Dedede’s worse side - esp since he’s heavily implied to be possessed during the fight, much like Dedede was in the past (stomach mouth, blank eyes, his connections with a certain eyeball who makes a hobby out of bodysnatching, etc)

- HiAD’s Parallel counterparts (the canon ones, created via the Jamba Heart) already serve the purpose of being the characters’ inner demons, given that they represent their negative traits magnified tenfold, so I prefer the Mirror Worlders as opposites bc they otherwise seem kinda redundant lol

- Dark Meta Knight liking being called cute would be really, really funny.

Ramble away! I do that too. (and I respect your headcanons. I just like my own more because bias XD)

-Yeah I know that, I've read through the pages before and seen stuff. I only quoted it because I find the pages fun to look at (and sometimes they make me realize things I didn't notice before) and I saw that one paragraph on Shadow Dedede and was like "hey, this basically sums up what I already wanted to say about him but couldn't think of the right words for because I suck at wording!"

-I think I remember something about a manual for Amazing Mirror stating it?? And I couldve sworn it was stated somewhere else that Shadow Kirby was good because Kirby is good good, like in a game, though I can't find it in Amazing Mirror's transcript. Maybe I'm misremembering it, I should probably go looking for it when I get the chance. however, I DO have Burade's Japanese pause description, which ends with, from my understanding:

"The opponent the king must overcome...

It was the shadow of the king's own heart"

And this comes right after it says that Burade has appeared, so I feel like Ans personally I think the stuff about him looking possessed has to do with the whole "embodies what the king used to be" thing since Dedede getting possessed is the Princess Peach getting kidnapped of the Kirby franchise and I could see an argument that Kirby 64 was the real point where Dedede's redededemption began (or at least his friendship with Kirby since that's the first time the really WORK TOGETHER work together rather than just "Dedede yeets Kirby at a smelly wizard") but that's just my take. I guess I just feel like if he was being possessed it would've been a bit more... apparent. like it would've shown us what was possessing him. 'Cus otherwise it just kinda... amounts to nothing. I think?

Again, just my dumb perspective.

I also just feel like it makes sense and is cool. Like I made that entire post because if you interpret Shadow Dedede that way it adds some extra coolness points to the fight for being a high point in a character arc. Interpret the lore however you wish, I just always feel the stupid need to explain my perspective in excessive length.

yeah speaking of I should probably stop-

-and yeah I guess the Jamba Heart dudes are also like that in a way though I feel like there's a bit of a difference? Kinda?? i don't know how to describe it. I hate understanding something on my own sometimes because then it becomes a pain in the neck to explain and I could just be understanding nothing in the end without even realizing it XD

-110% valid reason and I completely understand and respect it. I like funny.

[boingolungs]

I remembered why I uninstalled Killing Floor 2. I can barely run it online. I also kinda do miss the grimey horror aesthetic that is in the first game like Killing Floor 1 is more scarier than Killing Floor 2. Not saying KF2 is bad its fun and fast paced, but with KF2s new aesthetic and speed it takes the horror out of it. Also

WHERES SOME FUCKING LORE?!

#killing floor 1 #killing floor 2 #killing floor #game

[brbgensokyo]

Why are you even watching KF2

I’m committed as a lore fiend. 

[nazura]

So Killing Floor Christmas event. I guess I gotta be fair and do the pros and cons like I did with the Summer Circus event. Let’s see!

Pros

- They brought back the Nut Cracker Fleshpound, my favourite Christmas variation back. While I still hold more love for the KF1 Nut Pound, the KF2 Nut Pound is growing on me.

- Omg the cute variations of the Nut Pound. I love them.

- The music is great! But there is a con here too.

- Robo Santa is back! And apparently he is in a bitch fight with Krampus. That is funny to me. (A con here too tho)

- The new map with its objective of protecting certain areas is neat! It beats just camping the same spot over and over again.

- The fucking Gingerfast is back! I’M DELICIOUS!

- I like the new Christmas Stalker design with her being all frosty. Looks good! (con here too with conflicting with the Scrake)

- The three variations of the Clots are great.

- The Freezethrower is really fun to use, as is the new SWAT UMP.

- The Christmas items. I WANT THAT NUT POUND HEAD MASK!

- The new boss... He’s fucking disgusting. Stop shitting everywhere, Krampus.

- The Naughty and Nice list with your name on it! Kind of a cool touch.

Cons

- As much as I like the new Christmas music... Like.. Three songs? Wtf. Also I still wish it was more industrial than heavy metal type shit ( Like KF1).

- I love Robo Santa... But where the hell are his Christmas themed lines? They did the same thing in the Summer event. BOO! 

- As much as I like the stalker taking on the new frosty look... I miss the Scrake Frost look from KF1. The Scrake Deer is cool... But Scrake Frost was badass.

- I wish they would of remade Santa’s Lair along with the new Krampus lair.

- I kinda wish Robo Santa was the big bad guy in the event, as he IS the Patriarch. But I understand that they have to show off the Abomination (Krampus) boss.

- Why the fuck do I have a flower pot hat as a Christmas item?

- I wish during events you’d get more item drops... Cmon it’s Christmas. I don’t want 5 tickets to get one shitty flower pot hat.

- Give Ana new clothes item variations.

- I aint got a single purple ticket this whole time. Wtf Tripwire.

- STOP GIVING ME EMOTE CRATES (EVEN THO I CAN RECYCLE THEM)

- Also.... ADD MORE LORE.

Uh that’s it for now.

#Killing Floor #Killing Floor 2 #Naz talks #alcohol talks #pros and cons

[keystone8379]

Frame Imperfect

Regarding Kirby Fighters 2, when the game was relatively new, many YouTubers were trying to cash in on the new "kirby smash bros" hype. During this period I remember Mew2King coming into the KF2 server with interest in running a tournament for the game.

Wow! I couldn't believe this! Mew2King from funny YouTube compilations and competitive Super Smash Bros Melee (I had watched very little melee at that point, except for EmpLemon's There Will Never Be Another Melee Player Like HungryBox) was interested in our super cool Kirby game? Awesome!

At this point the game had garnered a rep as a pretty unserious competitive game, with many fake infinites being discovered and one real one as well. There was also Alpharad's video on the game that made it look...unflattering. It was unflattering for reasons other than just being a 'smash clone' but we didn't know why exactly yet. This was before 20XX, the first real KF2 tournament, for reference.

But Mew2King wanted to take a chance on us! He believed in our game and wanted to take a chance on a new, unique, exciting platform fighter! We were starstruck, plain and simple.

Which is why when M2K suggested MOBA style character bans everyone just kinda went with it????

Keep in mind this was before the first tourney, we didn't know shit about fuck, as fish would say.

They didn't go through with this.

So fast forward a couple months, and KF2's first appearance at Frame Perfect Series is upon us. As you'd expect, the community is really excited! This was one of the biggest brackets the community had ever seen, with a bunch of new faces! Mostly people we'd never see again but it was exciting at the time.

As for the commentator's bench, we were looking at M2K, who knew nothing about the game but was on comms for every game so whatever...and in the KF2 corner...Super Citrus. Who hadn't commentated an even since 20XX. Oh god. M2K was sprouting nonstop nonsense and Citrus just didn't have the game knowledge or confidence to debunk any of it. The VODs were a little painful to watch. Poor guy.

So FPS doesn't make the game look...great. It wasn't help that M2K was ridiculing the players he determined were 'lame' and I mean I don't like Ninja11 or Poyo but come the fuck on man. Commentary basics here. I could do a better job.

But what if I could actually? When FPS 4 was announced, we learned that KF2 would be making a return for it. I was more involved in the community at this point with one tournament under my belt (...which was New Generation) and did 2 major things for this FPS. Firstly, early on, KF2 wasn't looking great in the entrant count side of things. So, I got in touch with some of the folks in tourney committee and we talked about running a tourney where top 8 would get free entry to FPS4.

And this is where we talk about the unsung hero of this story, Thank You motherfucking Domo. When sponsoring Road to FPS, Domo offered to handle the free entry of anyone who we couldn't get people to pay for a gift sub for. In later Road to FPS events, he flat out offered to give any KF2 players free entry because he liked the game...and it makes for better content obviously but still. What a god damn legend. Rest in Power. (he lost his account in a phishing scam)

I realize that came off as kinda sarcastic but I was genuinely upset when his account got hacked. Shit sucks, I don't want to hear about phishing scams from Bool ever again.

OH, speaking of Domo, second major thing I did was apply for commentary! I had more tourneys and more experience under my belt at that point and I felt pretty confident all things considered! So I sent domo a few videos of my comms work, including a video where I have to make Bell look like a well designed interactive character for 30 minutes.

I didn't end up getting picked, but I thought to myself "well as long as it's not Citrus again we should be fine." lol. lmao. This time we did actually have a bit of time to give Cirtus a crash course in the current KF2 environment but it still wasn't great. In fact, it was maybe the worst video game commentary I'd ever seen.

For a long time, P47 had been seemingly untouchable. He was a KF2 expert, his Magolor inspired me to pick up the character fully, he was a lorehead, and a great guy to be around. The clip of him using Ultra Sword to push Nuggetz off a platform into an apple explosion is absolutely as iconic as it deserves to be. This was P47's last big tournament.

Now, remember how I said Mew2King was an asshole to anyone who he deemed lame. M2K was a Marth player in Melee by the way, I don't know if that's considered a lame character but I hope he is. P47 received the full force of this with constant hate from M2K's live chat, not to mention that Citrus also wasn't a Magolor fan. I'm not quite sure how bad it was exactly, but it was bad enough to lead to him quitting the game. Looking back on it, the whole situation is infuriating to me.

That was Citrus' last time commentating FPS, when FPS5 rolled around we had gotten Winters on comms, who was easily the most consistent commentator we had and also the person...you know...keeping the game alive. She was able to debunk a lot of M2K's bullshit and also was able to tell him that P47 quit because of M2K being an asshole last FPS. I don't think I ever told her how much I appreciated that.

Good time to mention that Mew2King also used he/him for EVERYONE. It led to me making this stupid fucking image.

But it gets worse. Of course it always gets worse. In top 8, Ninja11, one of my least favourite top players, was up against SoothingRuby, one of my favourite top players. Ninja11 kinda hates everyone in the community and Ruby hates people who are Like That so as you can expect these 2 get along great. This was reflected in the set between them.

It was a lot of this. Ruby would throw Kunai and Ninja would just crouch them. This matchup isn't even that bad for Magolor, I thinkj Mag wins it, Ninja's just an asshole. He ended up winning the set, of course he did. Great time was had by all, especially the twitch chat and M2K, who both already hated the game. Yikes.

So this brings us to FPS6, the final Frame Perfect event. Messages from M2K implied that Metafy, the main reason the tournament was being run, was on it's way out, but not before M2K was doing sketchy things in his own time.

Turns out Metafy still exists. Not sure what he was talking about with the whole final sale thing. Maybe it's an MLM thing. (Multi Level Marketing) Was I not supposed to think the platform was closing?

So the tourney rolls around on, of all days, the 4th of July. As a Canadian I don't give a shit, but as you can imagine, most people were not available. Zet ended up winning the whole thing. However there is one potentially sketchy set in there.

Somehow, before bracket, Qwertz had performed a coup d'etat and became TO of the bracket despite being on the other side of the globe. The actual TO didn't wake up in time, and all Qwertz used his power to do was changing the timeslot without communicating.

Then, when Zet "applied a taco to his router" (thank you Justin for giving my posts the rawest fucking quotes) Qwertz just said to play it out, though everyone knew this was mostly just because Qwertz didn't like Justin. Why do we let this man near any administrative privileges.

The stream also ended with Winters having to tell chat to have a happy 4th of july. She is a trans lesbian.

And that was the last FPS event. By the time the 3rd KF2 tournament had rolled around, we already knew M2K was doing more harm than good, but no one had the guts to tell him off. I think we were worried that he'd just run the game like a dumbass if we didn't stick around. To be fair, it happened with Kloudchasers.

So what's the moral of the story? Never meet your heroes? No, that's what we learned from Chuggaaconroy. Is Mew2King even my hero? Never meet a competitive Smash player is what we learned here. Though hopefully you all already knew that.

#kf2 lore #kf2 #kirby fighters 2 #kirby #fighting games

[keystone8379]

Never steal from women

I've been wanting to make this post since the tourney where it happened. I was going to wait for the person involved to leave the server or something before posting it but I've been DYING to talk about this story, it's so good. So you're getting it now.

So, regarding Kirby Fighters 2, every February 3rd (in reference to the finale of Persona 5 Royal) for the past couple years, I've run a KF2 event if I'm able. Last year it was the first low tiers tourney, but this year I decided to have a normal tourney...

...with the insane marketing gimmick of calling it Jay Eazy's Kirbification

To be honest, February 3rd kinda snuck up on me this year. University's been fucking me up, to be fair. But one day, this rando comes into the server and asks when the next tourney is.

No one had picked up on the Feb. 3rd thing yet, but I dropped a few hints to it here and there, like the intro music for last year and the graphic for this year. But this reminded me to get off my ass and run the Feb. 3rd bracket. Remember FreeStickman, he'll be important in this story.

One day, before the tourney, Stickman comes into general to argue for the legality of Dried Up Sea...using AI. This gave him a reputation of a chatbot that, like Mimikool before him, could not POSSIBLY be shaken off. As you'd expect, his argument was meaningless, weightless, passionless, and a joke.

But it was pretty funny.

So you have Stickman in the tourney, seeded last, in the same bracket as all stars like Schmeedor, AV, Claire, KirbybiM, Justinian, and, to everyone's surprise, Dougsauce! All things considered, it was a pretty good tourney if you played normally. Thanks Jay Eazy.

So my first few sets roll around, I beat Panini then get stomped by AV. Stickman gets destroyed by Claire and that puts me against him in the bracket. Then I get this DM from Kyochan.

Kyo had been gassing up Stickman all day, and for good reason: It was funny. I am not a fan of Stickman, but I like Kyo more than I don't like Stickman, so I go Bandana Dee and pretend to fight back. Stickman ends up "winning" the set 3-2, and they go onto fight Schmeedor.

So why did I throw? There's a few reasons actually. Firstly, I already knew Schmee could beat me. I also found a way to turn it into what I thought would be a good narritive moment...but no one paid attention to that. So Stickman plays Fighter Kirby, but can't do a quarter circle consistently, in the whole set he threw out about 6 input hadokens, which he only started doing after I TOLD HIM that was an option. If you remember the SOFG 2021 +R bracket, the only reason I was able to beat Winters was because of coaching Theo gave me. So I thought it'd be fitting to have that come back around.

So Stickman goes onto fight Schmeedor, and I'm not Schmeedor, so I can't tell you why, but she ALSO agreed to throw to Stickman. Likely in the same way I did, controlling the set to go to game 5. Special mention to Stickman saying he'd flip a coin to decide who gets to ban first and send the video. If you hate competitive integrity this is absolutely the tourney for you.

So Schmee goes on to fight Stickman and loses, and to the surprise of me and Kyo, Justin is sent to losers bracket by Claire. Justin does actually have a bit of honour unlike us 3 goobers so it was much less likely to get him to throw. He later mentioned on his stream about not playing to win and that there was no point in playing if you weren't playing to win. On his stream, he said "what would i be doing? playing to lose? fuck that"

But that didn't stop Kyo from trying.

So Justin stomps the "rawest Fighter he's ever seen" (he didn't use hadoken) in a set that isn't really close and Stickman gets really upset about it. Bro wins 2 rigged sets and let it get to his head. Though I guess he didn't know they were rigged.

Eventually, AV also learns that Stickman is a fraud and is devastated. I'm not sure who else found out. I did also make a pretty good graphic for Jay Eazy's Kirbification, check it out!

So we played to lose, inflated a chatbot's ego, and still had a great time. What happened to Stickman was much more interesting than what would have happened if the tourney just played out normally, much like Happy Chaos's goal of making life as interesting as possible for humanity. Though tbh, looking at this graphic again, I don't really like how there's some character overlap...let me fix that...

#kf2 lore #kirby fighters 2 #fighting games #fighting game community #kf2 #kirby #tournament #rigged #chatbot

[keystone8379]

You are not welcome here.

Regarding Kirby Fighters 2, with me being a mod in the server, I've had to ban a few people in my life. This is a bit of a follow-up post to the one about Celica's brother, as that's where I started my lovely ban message career. I wrote this with quite a bit of hatred, as I do genuinely hate Celica's brother. It came out quite well.

Fire. Straight FIRE. Get it? Because I'm straight? im funny.

This would start a beautiful trend of ban messages genetically engineered to make the ban recipient feel as bad as possible. If I may share a few highlights:

For a long while, my ban messages main goal was impact through hatred. As we all know, Anger And Hatred Are Supreme, so obviously this was the best way to write ban messages. Until I had to ban Max79.

Spoilers for an upcoming post, but when Max79 had to be banned, I didn't hate. Sure, he was annoying and unfathomably stupid, but I didn't hate him. When he threw out the f slur I had a feeling he didn't know what it meant, (didn't want to risk checking though) so I tried to emphasize that in my ban message.

And, more or less, this is the tone my ban messages have moved to in the modern day. Balancing impact with warning to attempt to have the banned person improve somewhere else. I've thrown in new enders to warn people who don't intend to clean up their act.

(as a sidenote, this is a kick messages because this person hadn't said anything in the server and just had a really bad profile)

Finally, one thing I want to clear up. For a long time, people thought my ban message creation process was as follows:

However, I am here to beat the mirror crying allegations. Firstly, I open my ban writing music. Secondly I analyze to ensure I have the facts straight in my ban messages. This includes cross referencing with other server members and mods. Finally, I state the reasons for the ban while comboing into my 'impact lines' as I call them. 'You are not welcome here' and 'there will be no place for you' are personal favourites of mine. I get credit for it, but I actually took it from fish when they were banning Ripple (known as Poyo at the time)

Thank you fish.

(as a quick footnote, there will not be a Poyo/Ripplepuff post on this account. For starters, the victims don't want the info public, and secondly, it's not funny. I may remake the kloudchasers post to include more of their involvement because oh boy were they involved)

#kirby fighters 2 #fighting games #fighting game community #discord #ban #kf2 lore #kf2

[keystone8379]

Have any KF2 players actually listened to the lyrics of Belial's theme?

Regarding Kirby Fighters 2, back in the game's prime, we had these little joke teams, parodies of Liquid, TSM, FaZe, stuff like that. The first of these were Kracko Sunday, started by Fish wishing everyone a happy Kracko Sunday...every Sunday. I can't remember if there was some items tournament that was related to Kracko Sunday, but I know Fishie Funnies was after Kracko Sunday was first mentioned.

You'll have to excuse me because it's been a long ass time since this happened, but at some point after this, some people start putting KS before their name as a team name. Eventually, Fish runs their items tourney, Fishie Funnies. It was an extremely goofy tournament but it had a few cool clips with items and combos into Gigavolt's slams. You can watch a highlights video here, but be warned, there will be name mispronunciations, I have my terrible old username, and everyone who isn't he/him gets misgendered. (He would be a perfect co-comm for Mew2King...)

I forgot me and biM played our whole set on Gigavolt, that shit goes hard. I also forgot how much I didn't like GM's editing style back then, no clue why I took his advice when I was making the New Generation trailer. But I digress. The gigavolt clips, and the fact that the tourney was on a Saturday, led to the eventual birth of a second KF2 squad, Gigavolt Saturday.

I remember leading a big push on Gigavolt Saturday as the "opposing squad" against Kracko Sunday, mostly just to annoy Fish. Even now, 3 years later, I still do many things specifically to clown on fish. There were a ton of other joke squads as well, such as GR, for Get Real, based on a clip where Qwertz gets knowledge checked by an Artist as Water, or JUM, based on Celica's iconic line: "go jum".

I need to make a post about New Generation at some point huh.

Regardless, this brings us back to the title of this post. One day, fish obtains Granblue Fantasy Versus and offers to play it with KF2 people over Parsec. I didn't know much about the game, except from YouTube thumbnails I've seen, showing Belial as a very good character. Prior to this offer, I had looked up Belial on Dustloop Wiki to see what the fuss is about and, honestly, it was one of my favourite character designs I had ever seen. The bizarre twist on the shoto archetype really stood out to me, especially that fireball, being able to change it's direction suddenly is so cool.

So I've never played GBVS but I know how a bnb is structured, and I know what Belial's buttons do, so me and fish play a bunch of games (Belial v Metera) and as I accumulate wins, fish gets tilted as FUCK. Not only can my fireballs catch jumps and spotdodges with a read, (would be on reaction if not for parsec delay) not only can my counter put me right next to fish after catching one of their projectiles, not only is the character and their theme song a walking sex joke, but eventually Schmee comes in and, on my suggestion, ALSO starts playing Belial.

The next day, Schmee makes this edit of Belial holding a sprite cranberry, based of a current emote in the server of Magolor holding a sprite cranberry (made by the GOAT P47) and it's beautiful.

OH, this reminds me, Belial also led to the founding bit for one of CE's longest running in-jokes, powerpoints for new characters!

I decide to type up this super cool moveset for porting Belial's moves into KF2, which is still pinned in the fishselfie-discussion channel, formerly called labbing-discussion but then no one used it. You can check it out right here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16ZN7Hy69QASnfSi7CYmp2V0GKp8tEuLTisV6V_A_uGQ/edit

So this leads us to the present day. GameMaker Studio 2 had become free recently and I had it sitting on my laptop. I already had a pretty fulfilling winter break, I spent time with friends, pushed out a massive Smash Tactics update, but I still had more time. I finally decided to stop thinking about learning GMS and actually started learning GMS. I started out with a fairly simple bullet hell I was calling "baby's first touhou" in which you would move a player, avoid shots from a boss character, then shoot back at the boss. I thought using Belial Cranberry would be funny, but the actual emote was a tiny image because it was an emote. Fortunately, Belial's new key art for GBVSR was PERFECT for holding a sprite cranberry. So for about 2 days, I got to work on making a bunch of attacks, fixing many crashes, and adding a bunch of other stuff like sound effects. Eventually, I ended up with a finished product: Maiden and Cranberry!

Not included in this video is the 'bruh' sound effect when you die. Also, that "wow" voice clip isn't text to speech, it's an actual in-game voice clip. I want to do other things, just simple games to start, but you all know I'm ambitious. There's a lot of things I want to learn to do, and there's a lot of things to learn with programming. It's crazy, there's so much that goes into a game that you never think about until you're actually making it. I'm going to keep messing around with GMS2, and one day, I'm going to be able to make all of that.

#kf2 #kf2 lore #kirby #fighting game community #kirby fighters 2 #fighting games #granblue fantasy #gbvs #gbvsr #belial #gamedev #gms2

[keystone8379]

The 3rd worst KF2 tournament of all time

This is the big one. The first KF2 tourney I ever ran. New Generation. I was not the first to admit that mistakes were made during this bracket but it's undeniable that mistakes were made. Big ones. Like, wasting effort on things people didn't care about level of mistakes. Limiting new tourney entrants for a month level of mistakes. Not making any calls for DQs after an hour level of mistakes. And all for what? Ego? It was pathetic. But it makes for a good story, so gather round the campfire for the story of New Generation, KF2's short lived Arcadian series.

The name New Generation was initially referring to the tourney being the first one of the new year. (2021) I realized it was the same name as SF3's subtitle so I thought it'd be fun to give it a hip hop theme, much like SF3 itself. There was a bit of an issue, however, when a certain moron, out of nowhere, announced a KF2 tourney for the exact date I was planning to run mine. With a thousand dollar prize pot.

That's right, Kloudchasers was creating conflicts with my tournament. He even advertised it in the meme channel. The jokes write themselves. I tried reaching out to him to move the bracket, but he left me on read. There's a theory going around that Kloud's 1K tourneys are primarily just means for tax evasion, and it could be argued that the unwillingness to move it was due to trying to stay in line with tax payment deadlines but that's a whole other thing. Believe it or not, this kloud tourney was somehow BETTER than the second one.

From my perspective though, this is crazy stressful. Your really ambitious first tourney is now going to get completely ignored because of some idiot evading taxes. The entire reason the tourney was called New Generation at that time was just because of when it took place, and with it not being the first tourney of the year, I was worried I'd have to throw away my branding. Fortunately, Wink had the idea to instead usher in the 'new generation' of players with an Arcadian format. I was initially hesitant with weeklies having declining entrant numbers, but I realized that this would be a great way to raise those. If I did it right.

So I get right to work on presentation. I felt that this would be extremely important given that a flashy thing would attract new players, and it started with me, for the first time ever, and the only time so far, commissioning art! At the time, my mom tracked all transactions on my card so I couldn't spend money for no reason...through my card. I got in touch with one of my friends in person, artsy.trash.mammal on instagram/artsytrashmammal on tumblr and they turned my silly little prototype graphic with stolen art into the INCREDIBLE graphic you saw at the start of this post. It got a bunch of praise from the tourney committee which made it seem like a good idea.

I get to writing the rules and more or less it's the same as current brackets. Rules against stalling and the doofus clause weren't fully developed at this point, but where I really fucked up is the entrance conditions. Firstly, you must have not gotten top 8 in a KF2 tourney before. This makes sense. Secondly, you could not have played in more than 3 KF2 tourneys.

This was a terrible rule and everyone called it out as such. At the time, I was worried about someone like P47 coming in and doing super well in their first few tourneys. It's rare but it did happen in our scene twice, with P47 then Flip...but I didn't realize that the first rule would prevent people like them from signing up. It's such a crazy oversight I'm shocked I made a mistake that big. To be honest, the only reason that rule was there was because I didn't want to consider myself a 'new player' even though my W:L ratio was middle of the road at the time. I thought I was better than them, and the whole scene had to suffer for it. So with that, new players stopped signing up for the main weekly tourneys so that they could sign up for NG.

And New Generation had a lot of entrants! This was where my reputation of shilling a little...way too aggressively. We were talking posts about NG literally every day in general or tourney general. Didn't matter if new people didn't join the server, it was always a good time to shill. And to be fair! For people who hadn't signed up for tourneys, or were nervous about playing in the 'big' tourneys (which were smaller than NG at this point) Kyochan was also really excited about the bracket and posted about it a reasonable amount. For something I was putting so much effort into, (relatively) it really meant a lot to me.

There's more! I wanted to also bring in a 'new generation' of commentators, so I put together a little commentator application. Most of the people who responded were already commentators in the scene but I did get one from a completely new person, StarmanDX I believe, who, if I'm not mistaken, went on to be Pretty Good at RushRev. Might as well bring him on, right?

As the tourney got closer, I realized that no one seemed to talk or care about the aesthetic parts of the presentation, which was...at least a little upsetting, to say the least. I felt I had put a lot of effort and cool clips into the trailer, and the art done for it WAS really good, but that just wasn't drawing any people. I tried shilling on my IG, but that was to no avail. It was a Persona gimmick account though so I suppose I should have seen that coming. I was able to get some of my friends to join though.

As the tourney approached, a certain kirbyandcelica came into the server and at first, me and at least a few other people thought they were just some random kid. The server's first 'chatbot,' even. But they would hop in matchmaking for games, and people who played against them said they were really good. I tried to get them into NG and it worked out.

And thus, the stage was set for the tourney. I had decided on commentary blocks for both streams and I think I had a bit of an all star lineup including Colgate, Theo, Nuggetz, Winters, and Justin...and also myself, Karp, and Starman. I was on comms first so that the more experienced commentators could make the finale good. We also had 20 people show up, including Schmee, Fish, DeDeDeadly, Musico, Kyochan, LuckyDuck, and of course, celica, which was crazy. I didn't quite know how crazy it'd be though.

So the tourney starts, I'm in commentary, and a BUNCH of people are confused on how striking works. Lucy Winters explained it before in tourney announcements because I forgot to, but people don't read. The start of the tourney was a DISASTER. But it would get better once there's less people in bracket, right?

Commentary was also exhausting for me because turns out accepting someone just because they applied without looking at the application isn't a good idea. At the time, starman wasn't as familar with some of the game's quirks as we were, and it led to situations on commentary where we would disagree on the facts of the game. Not a great look! Eventually though, I had other people save my ass for the actual TOing and we got through it, and after more people got out, things seemed to go smoothly so I kicked back, relaxed, and hopped in stream for top cut. Big mistake.

Man, celica, I feel bad for the guy. They weren't good with rules but it was in a really funny way. Because of it though, it was a pain in the ass to actually TO. I wasn't helping with that by the way, I was just fucking around and chuckling because 'haha funny.' After celica held up bracket for over an hour with misunderstanding striking, I finally got involved. During that time, Winters, hard carrying the scene once again, had been doing all the TO stuff that I should have been doing. But hey, at least we got one of the most iconic KF2 quotes of all time with this moment.

Holy shit he changed his username to megaman. gonna make me slide with my dog.

Where were we? Ah right, eventually, it got to a point where we had to DQ celica from game 6 or 7 of loser's finals. LOSERS FINALS. From there, Grands went by fairly quickly, LuckyDuck was the favourite to win the tourney and they took it home with only dropping 1 game. I got the gift cards to the winners, then acknowledged the disaster that was the tourney I just ran.

A few months later, I try to run a sequel that fixes the issues with the first bracket, but the tourney losing traction at 6 entrants was too small for my ego, so I ended up scrapping it. Honestly, ridiculous reason but what is done can not be undone.

So what did we learn from this? Do your fucking job? Yeah probably.

OH, Kloud ran his tourney a few weeks after mine and somehow it was even worse, he did set reporting through twitch chat, didn't host a sign up page, didn't seed, had 3 identical stages on the stagelist, and lashed out against feedback on his ruleset. Of all people, Ninja11 ended up dropping out because the format was THAT stupid.

#kf2 lore #kirby fighters 2 #kirby #fighting games #fgc #arcadian #tournament

[keystone8379]

Clout Chasers

Regarding Kirby Fighters 2, I don't think there will EVER be another tourney like the Kloudchasers tourney at the start of the year. The awful production. The lack of research. The arrogance towards advice. It all came together to feel like watching an anime tournament arc in real time. Magikarp described it as lightning in a bottle and yeah, that's a good way to put it. Granted, there really SHOULDN'T be another tourney like Kloud's, for many reasons, but we still have our memories!! .

#kirby #kirby fighters 2 #tournament #meta knight #infinite #kf2 lore

[keystone8379]

Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

Normally the stuff I would post is older memories from the Kirby Fighters 2 scene. However, everything came together for the most fucked up way a tourney could go and I have to share it.

For the past few weeks, I have been highly anticipating a low tier KF2 bracket I was running. Only Staff, Hammer, Artist, Bandana Dee, Sword, and Beetle were legal and it made for an unironically really hype format. I had wanted to do this for a few months now and I wanted it to be the best it could possibly be. I even had people vote on what day would be the best for them to run the tourney.

So the tourney ends up on Monday, August 28. Eventually, the tourney rolls around and shit goes insane. MULTIPLE top players sign up in the last 10 minutes before bracket starts, including Pizza Time, who is NEVER available, and Celica, who wasn't even in the server before bracket.

So we somehow have a weirdly stacked bracket with players who usually never come out for a special low tiers bracket. It would appear the stars had aligned. Maybe they aligned too much.

After about an hour of bracket, we get a notification that the game will be...undergoing server maintenance. Out of buttfuck nowhere. What is there to maintain???

Bracket goes on for about another 30 minutes until people are not able to make rooms. Then everything falls apart. After 15 more minutes everyone gets comm errored and that was it. After everything coming together perfectly for a super exciting tourney with characters and players we never see, it all falls apart because of an absurdly bad stroke of luck. I feel like I can't understate how much of an emotional rollercoaster this was and I'll try to upload to VOD to my Youtube at some point.

#kirby fighters 2 #kf2 #fighting games #fighting game community #online #net work? I sure hope it does #kf2 lore