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thetudorsedits · 10 months
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JAMES FRAIN as THOMAS CROMWELL throughout the seasons
Part. I | Requested by @ladauphines
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catherinesvalois · 2 years
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Different takes on how Elizabeth is shown dealing with her father’s death/dying. THE TUDORS // BECOMING ELIZABETH As a parent, Henry had one thing going for him (besides being there, alive) - his royalty. It was his name (not her mother’s unless you count her pride in her ‘most English” descent) that the adult Elizabeth would invoke frequently...[But] for the first half of the period - hardly more than a decade in all - that passed between Anne’s death and that of Henry himself, Elizabeth’s father was effectively an absentee from her life. (Sarah Gristwood, Elizabeth & Leicester)
In The Tudors, Elizabeth walks away from her last meeting with her father first without a second glance and as the audience we can sympathize, not only with her, but with Mary (who remains and cries moments after Henry exits), because of all the emotional trauma their father and his government have put them through. However, Becoming Elizabeth depicts Elizabeth as angry that the wheels of government do not stop to mourn her father, which is a choice the writers could make without turning heads, because the audience does not see her early upbringing and her mother’s fall so we don’t have the same emotional buildup as The Tudors. However, I think that both of these depictions together make up how Elizabeth felt and acted. Elizabeth was always aware that she walked a thin line being so close to the throne (even as a legally declared illegitimate child of the king). Her private feelings, unlike those of her sister Mary’s, were frequently masked as habit of pure survival. Therefore, putting on a sincere face of grief no matter how mixed her feelings were towards her father might not have been natural, but expected by the new regime and watched by those around her. 
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fideidefenswhore · 4 months
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The appearance of Halley's Comet, first observed streaking across the sky in August [1532], was the occasion for much muttering and comment. For Anne the omen seemed favorable, as on the morning of Sunday 1 September [1532] in Windsor Castle and with de la Pommeraye as the guest of honour, Henry ennobled her as Marquis of Pembroke in her own right [...]. Anne's grant followed the same format as for the creation of male peers and closely resembled the one Francis [I] made to his sister Marguerite in 1517, which Anne had witnessed. As Duke of Berry, Marguerite had become male in terms of status, entitled to the traditional rights and privileges ascribed to the male siblings of the king. [...] As a marquis, Anne could sit in the House of Lords, and the title would automatically descend to her offspring even if illegitimately conceived.*
Hunting the Falcon: Henry VIII, Anne Boleyn, and The Marriage That Shook Europe, John Guy & Julia Fox
*"Whether the omission of the customary words 'lawfully begotten' in the Latin text of the patent was a drafting error will never be known. Nobody noticed at the time."
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sayruq · 8 months
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J*e strikes me as someone who opts for an open marriage but then sees it as being only open for him.
given all the cheating rumours that have followed him for years, you're probably right. look at how he's reacting to her working instead of staying at home with the kids
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rhaenyras · 8 months
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Oh read your comments on my poll, totally agree that he was trying to recapture his relationship with Anne with the two later wives and couldn’t. Both had a different side of Anne but did not have the allure (yes KH had allure but more like a shiny thing allure whereas Anne was more of an unattainable allure he couldn’t fully posses).
kh had the allure of youth/innocence, if you ask me, which most (older) men are attracted to and prone to unwittingly mistake for love. especially a middle aged man who desperately wants kids, he's gonna choose a teenage wife, probably also on account of her fertility. hell, i think men would still do it nowadays if it was legal lol, like leonardo di caprio who goes as close as legally allowed.
catherine parr (your url namesake!!) was the only one who could rival anne's spirit, i think, but she lacked anne's flippant fiery side (which enflamed and enraged henry back in the day) and was more of a steady reassuring presence in henry's life. plus he was far too old by the time he married his last wife to actually put his heart and mind in the game of courtship anymore.
i see that coa is also getting a lot of votes in your poll but idk. she was a religious fundamentalist and henry the opposite of that. she was cultivated, yes, intelligent, sure, but i dont think she was able to hold his attention for as long as anne could. im also against people describing coa as the dull first wife, because that's also misogynistic and clichey, but i genuinely think their marriage lasted longer than any other simply because henry didn't know yet that divorce was a thing he could just... impose on his wives lol again, something else that anne taught him and that sadly ended up backfiring
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pfenniged · 9 months
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I loved how Andrew wasn’t the bitter ex band member and put their friendship first and fully understood what George Michael was going to be, probably not the full extent of it but the fact George needed to evolve.
It made sense once he said Wham! Was for the youth and there was never going to be Middle Ages Wham! It clicked for me.
My parents were teens of the 80s and my mum had their greatest hits, I have a vivid memory of dancing around to Bad Boys and the woop woops are ingrained in my head!. I have to say almost all my music taste somehow goes back to their album and George but it is only a recent realisation. I hope you are enjoying them!!! Freedom and I’m Your Man are my favs. Though Careless Whisper is making a comeback after what was revealed in the doco 17 and that???? What talent.
Exactly, which I always thought was super-classy and honestly, very mature of him (I honestly think if I was a teen in the 80s I would have had a little bit of a crush on him for it, tbh).
We had the big hits in Canada in the 80s (My Dad was a teen in the 80s and informed me of this), and it's just interesting to think about what was big in different countries. Obviously "Careless Whisper" and "Wake Me Up (Before You Go Go)" were massive everywhere, but I love how the documentary exposed me to songs they never play, even on our more retro/classic rock stations.
My Dad said "Freedom" was a big hit, but I'd never heard it, and I love it. Same with "I'm Your Man." And then even some of their more "naff" stuff, like "Wham Rap" and "Young Guns" just has that super-youthful energy, and shows a surprising amount of maturity in terms of its themes for something written when you're sixteen to seventeen.
Like, even if I had written a song about being unemployed when I was a teen, I don't think I would have had enough sense of character or myself at sixteen to think, "Wham, Bam, I am a man- job or no job, you can't tell me that I'm not." As an overachiever, it definitely took me until my twenties to be comfortable with not being defined by a job or gaining ALL my sense of confidence from what I do. And then Young Guns talking about premature marriage and children, and being locked into marriages you're not necessarily interested in? Like, there's clearly some great stuff there.
Also, their backing vocals are honestly also just clever and make me chuckle. Like, the thought of chanting "D.H.S.S." as your backing vocals ("Department of Housing and Social Services") when talking about being on the dole, and almost as something to toss back in people's faces with such youthful exuberance and a playful destigmatization of being on state support, is funny and clever and all I've been doing since I saw the documentary is just randomly singing out "D.H.S.S." everywhere I go. Same with "Everything She Wants"- the deep bass "GIVE YOU MONEY- WORK, TO GIVE YOU MONEY" has had me dropping my voice for the past week.
In short, they're so much more than the sum of their parts, despite being a self-described "schoolboy" band. I think they're a lot more clever than they give themselves credit for.
(Plus I just realized that in George Michael's solo career, the organ playing the chord progression at the beginning of "Faith" is the exact same melodic chord progression used in "Freedom," and it's just so clever. George really was far more talented than I ever recognized before. Brilliant. <3).
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earlgodwin · 7 months
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Ooooh happy to hear it’s David Oakes’ birthday!! A nice thing today. (We have an election and my party is loosing hard).
oh noooo :((( well, at least we hope the posts for david's birthday cheer you up and mayyyyybe bring some luck for your election party to win lol
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prideandprejudice · 10 months
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'Doing some The Borgias related edits, particularly focusing on Francois and Cesare and I literally can choose any scene and any shot and I can't go wrong cos he is art.''Doing some The Borgias related edits, particularly focusing on Francois and Cesare and I literally can choose any scene and any shot and I can't go wrong cos he is art.
To quote Taylor Swift "Wreck my plans, that's my man."
I KNOW, RIGHT? like... we don't deserve him :') will we get something as iconic as françois being cesare? i don't think so! and be free to tag me on your edits <3
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katharinepar · 1 year
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Emma Corrin as Jane Seymour vs Charlotte Spencer as Catherine Parr ?
Ooh, Charlotte as Catherine, definitely! I like to think I originated the idea of Emma as Jane (all the rumours are true) but Charlotte as Catherine is just ... brilliant. Showstopping. She fits Catherine's appearance to a T ('[Catherine] was said to have pale skin and the quintessential auburn hair of the Tudor age, and is thought to have been of a tall, graceful build, with leaden-grey eyes') and from what I've seen from her in Sandition, I think she could blend Catherine's charisma with her wit, cunning, courage, and outspokenness so well. Plus, she'd be the perfect age to play her (as long as this happens in the next couple of years – can we bankroll it now?)
Furthermore, while Charlotte is basically the only actress I envision as Catherine, I could see either Jodie Comer or Clemence Poesy as Jane (the latter I blame @machiavellianjane for).
But as captain of the KP Defense squad, what do you think?
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anne-the-quene · 1 year
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Cos I know you listen to it, are you agreeing on all the rex factor decisions on the Six Wives?
I know it is bad but I fast forward to the end to see if the rex factor is given on the newer ones then listen from the start since they covered JS, anxious a lil for CP.
So far I have. I mean, I’m not surprised that JS, AoC, and KH didn’t get it and I think it’s unlikely that KP will get it either (they might consider it for her but, ultimately, I think they’ll say no).
I didn’t agree with EoY, I think she should’ve gotten it, but maybe it’s fitting that she didn’t because H7 didn’t get it either.
But otherwise, I’m not at all surprised that CoA and AB got it (I actually never listened to any of AB’s episodes because, although I do enjoy Ali, sometimes the comments he makes are a bit obtuse and I didn’t want to listen to him bad-mouthing Anne because he doesn’t know any better).
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valyrianpoem · 1 year
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Loving the Tudor Queens content!!!!!
Thank you! I plan to make more! In recent months, I'm in the mood for gifs.
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catherinesvalois · 2 years
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Elizabeth's Green Gown + Outfit Details ELIZABETH (1998)
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fideidefenswhore · 8 months
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It is important to realise that Henry's motivations and objectives remained equally opaque to most of his contemporaries. Many, including both Cranmer and Cromwell, thought the King was heading in a Protestant direction, but they were to be proved wrong. Gardiner was perhaps more astute in realising the kind of reformation that that Henry had in mind, but it is unlikely he found it entirely unconvincing. Arguably Anne Boleyn came closest to appreciating Henry's vision, which was at once evangelical and Catholic, reforming and traditionalist, and above all aimed at the exaltation of his own majestic authority. But Anne failed him in other respects, and Henry's subsequent wives never came as close to understanding him in this. For much of the decade Henry thought he had an ally in Cromwell, and deployed his skills to the full in pursuit of his chief aims, only to discover in 1540 that he had been duped. The ferocity of Henry's response would show the extent of his sense of betrayal.
Henry VIII (Lucy Wooding)
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outrowingss · 2 years
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How do you think BE is gonna handle Elizabeth and Philip? (That’s if they get a season two)
Thank you so much for your question!! To be honest - i'm really not sure how they're going to handle Elizabeth and Philip. With Philip and Mary i feel like they're going to go down the stereotypical infatuated Mary and an uninterested Philip which is what we normally see in most Tudor adaptations (or at least the ones i've seen lolol) However, with Elizabeth and Philip, i really don't know. I feel like it could go down a few ways, it could go down the Legacy by Susan Kay route where it has Philip infatuated with Elizabeth, and only being happy/in a good mood around Elizabeth in comparison to how he is around Mary, and him only wanting her safe because of said infatuation. The second route i think they could show is him not being infatuated with Elizabeth, but still having some sort of fondness, and likeness towards her, a bit more of a level headed Philip. But he also knows she could be the next Queen of England if he and Mary do not have a child, so he needs her as an ally and that is another reason he wants her safe and is kind to her, this route could also portray him as trying to be the peacekeeper between the sisters and the court. And this is why Philip wants Elizabeth safe. The final route i think could be them giving him a total villain arc where he is not only uninterested in Mary, but he has a strong dislike and distrust of Elizabeth as well, when we now he did not. Kind of like his portrayal in Elizabeth: Golden Age. They could show him as being responsible for the bad things that happens in Mary's reign, him trying to force a marriage on Elizabeth and him only seeing Elizabeth as a pawn. I feel like if they did this route they could even show him proposing a potential marriage before Mary is even dead to kind of cement the 'bad guy Philip' arc. I hope i've wrote everything okay! To be honest, i do not know a lot about Philip - the only time i've read parts about him is if it's in biographies of Elizabeth or Mary. I'm also basing my answers on portrayals of Philip that i have seen as well and not from actual history. I definitely think i should start reading a bit more about him lol.
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cesareeborgia · 1 year
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So happy to see you back editing!!!!!!
omg, this just made my day! so glad to hear this. thank you so much!! <3
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pfenniged · 9 months
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I adored the Wham! Documentary too! Was obsessed with it.
Honestly, I had no idea how sincere and sweet their friendship was- nor how honestly good their repertoire was (Especially considering how young they were when they started composing).
Plus I just want to give Andrew Ridgeley a hug for being the person who took George Michael under his wing when he was the little outsider in class, built up his confidence, and basically helped to build him into the person he ended up being, despite his amazing talent. And then to step aside and just let him fly on his own when it was obvious just HOW talented he was? To have that grace and sincerity to step aside? How rare is that in a friendship in the music industry, especially?
I loved that Andrew, despite being "second fiddle," still had the sheer confidence of self and enough of a sense of who he was to not be defined by being the "guy who ran the coattails of George Michael," but to continue to be himself, in his own words, having the grace and sense of self to know when to pack it in, and wanting the band to end on a high note.
The entire documentary was fantastic, and if you haven't watched it, do yourself a favour- you'll have a totally new appreciation for Wham! as a band. It's the prime example of something some people may think is "cheesy" really being so sincere and earnest and just genuinely light-hearted and fun, that so many people would be afraid to make that leap. And I'm just happy these two dumbasses did. <3
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