#it's not just cas though! they're all vegan!

[vegancas]

cas IS vegan so true!

you just became my favourite person anon 💖

#it's not just cas though! they're all vegan! #sam obviously like he's the one who introduced cas to veganism #they had a long talk about it and sam told cas all the many reasons why he's vegan #and yes even dean is vegan #i won't go into the reasons why i think he goes vegan post-canon coz i'm really tired nd honestly haven't thought about it in enough detail #but he is!! #shit i will say he's full of love tho and they do go in trips to a local sanctuary and he does befriend the rescued cows and pigs #and then eventually they adopt their own rescues!!! #and jack loves helping take care of the animals :3 #ask tag #veganatural

[vegance]

Yes animals are sentient, but most arent sapient. They have no sense of the future or the idea of self. That’s why we euthanize them when qol drops. They wont be able to just enjoy the time left with family, they will simply be in pain and confused.

Humans are naturally omnivores, which means that yes, we do need meat. Supplements may make a vegan diet plausible nowadays but our species evolved to eat meat, and anything else we could. Some of our closest companions also need meat. While dogs could theoretically survive on a vegan diet, cats can not. And vets still don’t recommend vegan diets for dogs unless the dog has a lot of protein allergies.

With animal ag, or at least beef, milk, and locally farmed chicken. I can be confident that the animals lived a relatively stress free life before slaughter. I dont eat meat because of taste, I eat meat because it’s the most bioavailable source of many important nutrients and because too many plants makes my guts, very unhappy.

Without animal ag, we wouldn’t be able to feed our pets properly balanced nutrition or have prescription foods for them.

I have no problem with you or anyone else being vegan or vegetarian. But animal ag, especially dairy (a necessary ingredient for baby formula and all other milk replacements for orphaned animals) is just far too important for keeping people alive and healthy.

It can certainly be hard to find unbiased information. But personally, I’m pretty confident from the sources I’ve looked at that animal ag, is not at all having the same impact as the transportation industry.

I’ll also end this with something important for any side of any disagreements.

Documentaries arent required to be true, scientific studies can be bullshit (see, milk causing autism).

Always try to be aware of who funds and runs a study and any biases they may have. Cross reference multiple sources and make sure those sources arent just all referencing each other or the same thing. There’s a lot of misinformation out there nowadays and it’s just getting harder and harder to find facts. Also dont use Google for research because then the first results are just whoever has the most money.

what does being sapient have to do with anything though? there are many human beings (i.e babies) who din't have a sense of future either. doesn't make it ok to hurt them? vegans are not against euthanizing pets when they're too sick. vegans are against causing animals unecessary suffering and harm

humans are omnivores and so we can survive on many different diets. many dietetic and medical associations and institutions around the world agree that it is perfectly possible to be healthy on a vegan diet. what our ancestors did doesn't really matter. our ancestors did many things which we do not do anymore.

the locality of a farm has nothing to do with the welfare standards. every farm is local to someone. and how can you be sure that their lives were free of stress? cows get artificially inseminated, have their babies taken away every single year. you think they don't find that distressing? and even the happiest life on a farm does not change the fact that these animals are slaughtered at a fraction of their lifespan, and often suffer horribly then. many stunning methods are either unreliable or cause immense distress themselves. for example in 2013 the USDA estimated that ca 1 million chicken and turkey a year are drowned in boiling water while still alive (in the us). add to that the long transports that many of these animals go through before slaughter fish are even more difficult. many are not stunned at all and just left to suffocate. many stunning methods are inadequate and/or take at least several minutes to work, causing the animals to suffer. not to mention what working in a slaughterhouse does to humans.

there are vegan baby formulas out there.

"Documentaries arent required to be true, scientific studies can be bullshit (see, milk causing autism)." when have i ever cited a documentary??

all the other research stuff reads super condescending tbh. i'm currently getting a masters degree. i know how scientific research works. and i am not saying that i always have the best sources. this is literally a tumblr blog, not a peer reviewed paper in a scientific journal? but i do often provide multiple sources, or sources that are based on systematic reviews/meta analyses, or just information provided by large scientific bodies. anyway, my sources are definitely better than pretty much anything i see from the anti vegans on here (whose sources are usually just "trust me")

i wont argue that a fully vegan world is possible right this instance. but that's also not at all the point. a world with 100% renewable energies is also not going to happen within the next 10s, that does not mean it wont be possible in the future, and that it's no important to strive towards it. and we are no where near the situation where we would run into problems because....people are consuming too little animal products? it's just not at all relevant for deciding whether or not to go vegan right now.

i'm not asking dogs to go vegan. i'm not asking cats to go vegan. i am asking every person who is able to to go vegan. by which i mean, live a life that is as vegan as it is practible and possible

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