#it’s Princess Mengze

[yeyayeya]

Not my dumbass reading two novels at once and I am going insane over two characters and I’m not even halfway through both of them aha

It’s fucking Danmei why

I guess I have a type of character to hyperfixate on

It’s Yin Yu all over again with those two fuck

#yeyarants #I’m currently reading erha and yuwu #yeah both by meatbun #AND I HAVE TO HYPERFIXATE ON THE SIDE CHARACTERS I HATE MY LIFE #for erha it’s Ye Wangxi #omfg don’t talk to me #I LOVE HIM #the urge to not search up anything until I finish #help me I want to but I do not want to be spoiled #THE BOOK 5 COVER #MY BOY #ASDFGHJKL #omg its Yin Yu all over again fucking help me #and for yuwu #even tho I got her for like a few chapters #it’s Princess Mengze #please don’t let her be the bad guy #I hope not #anyway currently going a bit insane over her character and her relationship with Mo Xi #HER OMG AND HER ILLUSTRATION???? #my type to hyperfixate on is: characters who aspired to achieve something but failing due to another person being the reason they fell #no why I want to reblog stuff so bad but I do not want spoilers #danmei #erha he ta de bai mao shizun #husky and his white cat shizun #yuwu #remnants of filth #ye wangxi #murong mengze #rou bao bu chi rou

[uniguinflutist]

The whole deal with Princess Mengze in Yuwu reminds me of Beatrice in the Divine Comedy. We're told that she's amazing and lots of things about her via exposition, but we don't get to actually MEET her until 2 books in. They tell us instead of showing us.

I think if I were to change anything about both the Divine Comedy and Yuwu it'd be to have Beatrice Portinari and/or Princess Mengze appear MUCH earlier so we get to know them better instead of being TOLD what they're like beforehand.

Like I would've had Virgil and Dante meet up with Beatrice on the shores of Ante-Purgatory as a celebration of getting out of the hardest part of the journey. I would have her accompany Dante along with Virgil up Mt Purgatory.

Similarily, I would've had Princess Mengze reunite with Mo Xi at Murong Lian's party towards the end of the first book.

That's some constructive criticism. You can take it or leave it.

#yuwu #remnants of filth #divine comedy #the divine comedy #beatrice portinari #writing #princess mengze #murong mengze #dante alighieri #publius vergilius maro #virgil #dante's inferno #purgatory #meatbun #murong lian #mo xi #gu mang

[web-novel-polls]

WN Women Tourney - Images & Propaganda

[Last Updated: May 23rd, 2024]

The submissions post has been updated with all the current propaganda/submissions. I'll try and add propaganda to some of the characters, but here's a list of the current characters without any propaganda whatsoever:

No Propaganda List

Christelle de Sarnez from Third Wheel Strikes Back

Jang Hayoung from ORV

Jung Heewon from ORV

Lang Qiao from Mo Du / Silent Reading 

Lee Sookyung from ORV

Ling Wen from TGCF

Lin Jingshu from Can Ci Pin

Nagsi Jiya from JWQS

Nangong Jingnu from JWQS

Nangong Shunu from JWQS

Olivia Lanze from DPA / Demon Prince Goes to the Academy

Qiyan Agula from JWQS

Qiyan Nomin/A-Die from JWQS

Su Qingluan from Lord Seventh

Su Xiyan from SVSSS

Uriel from ORV 

If you'd like to submit propaganda (for characters without propaganda or characters with), feel free to send an ask at any point during the tournament. The following are characters that I couldn't find an image of but will be represented with an image of the cover of their novel unless someone sends in an image:

No Image of Character / Image of Novel

Fu Wanqing from The Beauty’s Blade

Li Yanru from JWQS

Manman from Itinerant Doctor*

Mansha from FGEP

Nagsi Jiya from JWQS

Qiyan Nomin from JWQS

Qu Qing Ju from To Be a Virtuous Wife

Ryu Seol from Best Teacher Baek*

Su Qingluan from Lord Seventh 

Wei Chengxiang from Tai Sui*

Youqin from FGEP

Zhao Qindan from Tai Sui*

*Suspected to have no canon image

Full Character List

A-Qing from MDZS

Baili Qingmiao from Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know

Bai Rong from Thousand Autumns

*Carynne Heier from Resetting Lady (Dealer’s Choice)

Christelle de Sarnez from When the Third Wheel Strikes Back

Chu Yue from QQGK

Consort Jing from Langya Bang / Langya List / Nirvana in Fire

Feng Xiaoshu/Princess Jing’an from Lord Seventh

Frédérique Riester from When the Third Wheel Strikes Back

Fu Wanqing from The Beauty’s Blade

Grand Princess Liyang from Nirvana in Fire

Gu Xiang from TYK

Hannah from LCF/TCF

Han Sooyoung from ORV

Hua Xiangyi from QJJ

*Isella Evans from Resetting Lady (Dealer’s Choice)

*Iseol Yu from Return of the Blossoming Blade (Dealer’s Choice)

*Jang Hayoung from ORV (Dealer’s Choice)

Jiang Yanli from MDZS

Jian Lan from TGCF

*Jung Heewon from ORV (Dealer’s Choice)

*Kim Seyun from My School Life Pretending to be a Worthless Person (Dealer’s Choice)

Lang Qiao from Mo Du 

Lee Jihye from ORV

*Lee Sookyung from ORV (Dealer’s Choice)

Ling Wen from TGCF

Lin Jingshu from Can Ci Pin

Lin Wanyue from FGEP

Liu Mingyan from SVSSS

Liu Qianqiao from TYK

Li Xian from FGEP

Li Yanru from JWQS 

Luo Qingyang / Mianmian from MDZS

Manman from Itinerant Doctor

Mansha from FGEP

Mary from LCF/TCF

Mu Nihuang from Nirvana in Fire

Murong Mengze from Yuwu

Nagsi Jiya from JWQS

Nangong Jingnu from JWQS

Nangong Shunu from JWQS

Ning Yingying from SVSSS

*Olivia Lanze from DPA (Dealer’s Choice)

Qiu Congxue from DVAWTK

Qiyan Agula from JWQS

Qiyan Nomin/A-Die from JWQS

Qi Zhuyin from QJJ

Qu Qing Ju from To Be a Virtuous Wife

Ryu Seol from Best Teacher Baek

Sha Hualing from SVSSS

Shu Yanyan from DVAWTK

Song Qiutong from 2ha

Son Moa from I Stole the Number One Ranker’s Soul

Su Qingluan from Lord Seventh

Su Xiyan from SVSSS

*Uriel from ORV (Dealer’s Choice)

Wei Chengxiang from Tai Sui

Wen Qing from MDZS

Ye Wangxi from 2ha

Yoo Sangah from ORV

Youqin from FGEP

Yushi Huang from TGCF

Zhao Qindan from Tai Sui

Zhou Fei from Bandits/Legend of Fei 

#not a poll #favorite wn women tournament #my posts

[mxtxfanatic]

Alright, finished Yu Wu, so now we have our character breakdowns!

Our Main Cast:

Murong Lian: I am so serious when I say that a sad (not even tragic, just fucking “sucks I guess, dude” sad!) backstory and working with the MCs towards a mutually beneficial goal IS NOT A REDEMPTION ARC.

Yue Chenqing: a lesson in why ignorance is NOT bliss and you should NOT blindly follow whatever your elders say. (Especially if your “respectable elder” is a known rapist with children he don’t even know about under his own roof falling in love with each other 😬). I expected that he’d experience some traumatic bullshit, but holy shit?

Jiang Yexue: I knew there was something off about him, but holy shit????? Hope he rots in hell, but also, he was obviously tainted by that dark cultivation he took in to save his brother’s life, so maybe the real villain who needs to rot in hell is their rapist daddy 💁🏽‍♀️

Murong Chuyi: I knew he liked Yue Chenqing deep down and that something must have happened to make him turn on Jiang Yexue, but holy shit???? Anyways, hope he gets to beat that fool’s AND his rapist daddy’s asses in the afterlife before reincarnating into the most peaceful next life. (On another note, wtf is up with meatbun and jumping into blood pools????)

The emperor: I CALLED IT! A MOTHERFUCKING SNAKE AND A COWARD 🗣🗣🗣 IF YOU TRUSTED HIM AT ANY POINT, DON’T TALK TO ME 🗣🗣🗣

Guoshi of Liao/Hua Po’an: everyone is afraid of this super ultra powerful, seemingly invincible guoshi and ain’t none of y’all stopped to think, “wow, this is suspicious; wonder if that one villain IN ALL OUR STORIES maybe didn’t die, especially since we keep seeing hints that the one who “killed” him and died with him is ALSO not dead!” What foolishness… Anyways, man had plans on plans and still couldn’t predict human kindness, what a tool lmao

Princess Mengze: everyone was playing 3D chess with politics but bitch was on 4D; I was shook 😳

Gu Mang: MY BOY! Wwx if he was written into a trauma porn novel. Stuck. To. His. Convictions!!! Every reveal of his was a whammy on top of a whammy 😭😭😭 Thought he was out here being Naruto-level foolish without the protagonist halo, but he was really out here playing 4D chess on human morality with the best of them! GIVE HIM HIS FLOWERS 💐 💐💐

Mo Xi: love how he loves Gu Mang. Hate how goddamn naive he is. At some points, instead of feeling emotionally overwhelmed, I was just getting secondhand embarrassment. Would obviously NOT survive a political intrigue novel.

Honorable mentions:

Lu Zhanxing: his death fucking suuuuuucked, but he was a real one.

Li Wei: standing up to the emperor’s men to protect your lord, LET’S GOOOOOOOOOO

Lan’er (Changfeng-jun’s daughter): they didn’t have to do her like that… (also, is she still alive???? We just kinda drop her and never check back in????)

Madam Jiang/Su Yurou: wish I could be this unbothered in the face of conflict, while having the balls to defy the most terrifying not-quite-human in the known world 😭 glad she survived 💙

Jiang Fuli: fuck, I’m glad HE survived! He deserves it!

Hong Shao: she walked into death bravely and heartbrokenly, and I wish she didn’t have to. I hope she and Li Qingqian reincarnate into a better life where they grow to be the old man and hag together, like she dreamed…

Li Qingqian: the way he found out that in attempting to save Hong Shao, he had actually killed his love AND that her murderer “was” the man who saved him? I’m glad Su Yurou got to tell him the truth, and I hope he was able to reunite with Hong Shao in the afterlife

#yu wu #yuwu spoilers #human reads yuwu #i think this is everyone #I’ll come back if i remember someone i care about #but the thing about this book is that while there seems to be a lot of characters #there aren’t actually? #or many aren’t that important anyway

[chaochasm]

I finished reading yuwu and that subtle nod to chu wanning in the finale had me HYSTERICALLY SOBBING... also hua poan/chen tang storyline paralleling ranwan was so tragic huhu

#yuwu is truly pain after pain after pain after pain #murong chuyi will live in my head rent free for a month after this #also im neck deep in xueyi hell its not funny anymore #aaahhhh i need to sort out my emotions #im so glad ximang got their happy ending and MURONG LIAN YESSS #PRINCESS MENGZE SHOW DEM MISOGYNISTIC BASTARDS HOW ITS DONE #princess? #oop spoiler- #yuwu #remnants of filth #2ha

[angieloveshua]

Mo Xi stood up, looking at him coldly and indifferently with eyes as cold as glass.

"Because that person was not Princess Mengze."

"!!!"

HE FUCKING SAID IT, STRAIGHT LIKE THAT.

#yuwu #stains of filth #remnants of filth #meatbun doesn't eat meat #肉包不吃肉 #余污 #mo xi #that's my man

[dangermousie]

I really like Princess Mengze. She’s basically “yes, I love a gay dude who is only capable of loving one man his whole life. Whatever. I am going to save his core at the cost of my own health but will never pressure him into marriage or guilt him over it or expect anything really other than being treated with respect and politeness because pressuring someone into something they do not want is pointless and it was my decision to save him so he owes me nothing.”

She is basically a bamf and so calm and sane. I love her.

#cnovel #yuwu

[tomorrowsdrama]

Hii so I’m reading yu wu but I’m scared bc 2ha was very misogynistic so I was wondering if you could tell me if Princess Mengze is a villain/cannon fodder female? I don’t care if she’s flawed I just don’t want another Fried Alive Empress Song situation :x

Hm I haven’t made it far enough in 2ha so I can’t compare to how empress song was treated in 2ha but I did not feel like princess mengze was treated/depicted in a particularly misogynistic way. I don’t want to spoil too much but what I can say is:

Her depiction for most of the novel is actually quite positive and like Mo Xi, you feel bad that he has no romantic feelings for her whatsoever

Princess Mengze is alive at the end and is shown to be the better choice to be ruler of the empire compared to her emperor brother

Not everything is as it seems with Princess Mengze but that’s a given since duh, member of the royal family with THAT paranoid pos megalomaniac emperor as a brother

Princess Mengze is not 100% pure/good but who is? I don’t think she was ever depicted as a shrill and irredeemable villain though. At worst, princess Mengze was a shrewd and ambitious member of the royal family who grew up in a cutthroat environment and did whatever was necessary to survive/gain power

Hope that answers your question! And if you don’t mind being spoiled, I can also go more in depth.

#yuwu #asks

[mxtxfanatic]

My thing with Yu Wu/Remnants of Filth:

The novel feels too much like it attempts political intrigue mixed in with cultivation action, and it fails at the former while making the latter weaker as a result. Also, the action is undercut too much by Mo Xi’s quite frankly boring domestic issues, and his internal struggles get old real quick when it doesn’t feel like growth happens for a while. In 2ha, I only accepted this seemingly stagnant growth in Mo Ran because of the back-to-back missions that kept piling and all the never-ending action. Also, 2ha is twice as long, and my reading benefitted from me being able to skip to Mo Ran acting like he had sense, which was halfway through the story; 1,500 more pages of story was left to sit wit Mo Ran 2.0.

In Yu Wu, it’s split up by hundreds of pages of “let’s give Gu Mang chores!” “Let’s convince people I don’t want to protect Gu Mang by always trying to publicly protect him!” “Let’s cry about how amnesiac Gu Mang is so different from old Gu Mang!” “Oh look, more chores!” Mo Xi doesn’t feel like he starts acting with sense until the last 600 pages, of which we get another, what, 100 pages of domestic fluff? And then we pingpong back and forth between real shit and domestic fluff with amnesiac Gu Mang pt. 2 before the climax begins. There’s not enough time for me to sit with a Mo Xi putting clues together (for which he doesn’t, he’s just told things) and he and Gu Mang working as a team, or at least one of them competently trying to discover shit (which tbh would only be Gu Mang, but unfortunately the narration is mostly stuck to Mo Xi…).

I also can’t fully enjoy Mo Xi struggling with his morals, love for Gu Mang, and hatred of Gu Mang’s “treachery” when the only sure actions he takes makes him look like an idiot waiting to be slaughtered by the rest of the imperial court. I mean, grievously injuring yourself as if that’s something Gu Mang would want or that it would help his cause in any way, then waltzing into a torture session sanctioned by the emperor that was occurring while you were injuring yourself for no goddamn reason to rescue the most hated man in your country? I almost died of secondhand embarrassment, like??? Why would Meatbun make him do something so idiotic???? When Chu Wanning rescues Mo Ran from his execution in 2ha at the hands of the descendants of the gods who nobody in the cultivation world dared to go against, he took Mo Ran to hide, and they were both shunned by the greater cultivation world (but not by the people who knew them and their goodness). In Yu Wu, Meatbun was right to say that Mo Xi’s 3-day “house arrest” was a mind-boggling and anticlimactic conclusion to PUBLICLY GOING AGAINST THE EMPEROR, HOLY SHIT. Like, Meatbun obviously wanted to include political intrigue, but girl you cannot write political intrigue!!!

And on that note: I feel like we are given vital pieces of information entirely too late. Gu Mang having a mother figure he looked up to could have probably been mentioned at least once earlier than it was. In 2ha, we learn about Mo Ran’s background early on, but it’s how the story begins to change with more detail and color that we readers find out that, though we’ve known this story from the beginning, we didn’t actually know shit about Mo Ran’s story. In Yu Wu, we’re told Gu Mang is an orphan with only another similarly-aged slave as a friend; Aunt Li comes in way too late to really reap the satisfaction of foreshadowing. More hints about Princess Mengze’s true nature could have either 1) been dropped earlier or 2) been dropped better (having a servant say that a woman giving up on her feelings feels “too fake” sounds more like misogyny than a hint…). The treachery of the emperor, ugh… now for me, the “hints” that he was gonna be a bad guy looked exactly like the hints that Murong Lian was gonna be redeemed, and I didn’t like that one bit. Murong Lian does get redeemed, and the emperor dies a villain. The emperor being cruel and callous in public but a simpering mess in private felt like it should have been reversed, because him treating his court like entertainment did not give me the “I fear for their approval” vibe that was apparently the emperor’s whole hangup. And going back to Murong Lian: that wasn’t a redemption arc. “Mommy didn’t like me” is not a redemption arc to redeem a character WHO GLEEFULLY TORTURES SLAVES AND IS GLEEFULLY AN ENSLAVER, and Meatbun should know better because no character in 2ha that did anything comparable to Murong Lian got redeemed or forgiven by in-novel characters. So wtf happened here?

Also, the thing that was never fully redeemed for Murong Lian and also my biggest gripe of the book: Gu Mang. I absolutely love his character. Love how his hidden memories are hiding like actual layers of secrets upon secrets. Love finding out what he was truly thinking and going through, but I hate how OTHER PEOPLE have to put the pieces together for Mo Xi because he’s too much of an idiot blinded by his own emotions to think about anyone’s motivations and be proactive in discovering the truth. But the worst thing is how Gu Mang gets put into so many situations of torture by every character, including Mo Xi, for seemingly no reason other than us readers getting to watch him be tortured as an amnesiac who acts like a child. Most of the time I felt like that Simpsons meme where the kids are begging for someone to stop being beat cause “he’s already dead!” Anytime a new character showed up that Mo Xi didn’t already trust, I would think “oh great, another Gu-Mang-gets-tortured! arc…” That’s not enjoyable, for me. Especially given at the end, Gu Mang is actually revealed to be one of the smartest, most tenacious characters in the whole book. Mo Xi’s character feels weak next to that, and it makes the whole book feel weak as a result.

This would have likely been a better read if the narration followed Gu Mang instead of Mo Xi.

#yu wu #yuwu spoilers #2ha spoilers #my thoughts on this rollercoaster

[dangermousie]

So the emperor actually did plan to keep his promises to Gu Mang? Does he… actually .. have a heart? 🧐

WARRIOR SOUL MOUNTAIN THOUGH!!!! So the cloak dude was the emperor who took him to see all those graves of his brothers! And the fact that Gu Mang asks not to be given one because of the blood he knows he’s gonna have on his hands!!! Stop it!! It hurts!!!

Also we have Princess Mengze who I’m sort of on the same boat with her as I am with Jiang Yexue (STILL SUS!!!) because how can she be so generous to a man who she knows has no feelings towards her? She took a lot of damage for him and she even offers to help Gu Mang even though she should hate him if she is under the impression that he is a traitor who tried to kill Mo Xie. I hate that my suspicions seem to come from “they are too nice.” Idk what that says about me, but with all the scheming that goes on it’s hard not to think that everyone (besides are main leads of course 😂) is doing things purely for their own gain.

Biting my tongue on both Mengze and Jiang Yexue (I like one of them a lot better than the other, but not spoiling who and why) and as to the emperor, I also wondered if he had a heart at that point in the novel but, without spoiling too much, NO HE DOES NOT HAVE A HEART AND SHOULD FUCKING ROT!!!! (or at least any of his good impulses are so covered by bad they really don't matter.)

#asks #yuwu

[dangermousie]

Omg the PAIN!!! The pain and torture that Gu Mang has been through?? Physically, mentally and emotionally! How is this man still alive? Mo Xie being in so much pain and yet, the physical pain not being anything in comparison to the pain he feels for Gu Mang!!

Him awkwardly trying to ask Gu Mang to live with him was too cute! And Gu Mang knowing that he was gonna have to leave but not wanting to ruin the moment. They are so soft I cannot!! They will be the death of me!

Also PRINCESS TO THE RESCUE!! Now that Mo Xie knows the truth I love how unapologetically on Gu Mang’s side he is!! Him bursting in, despite being a wreck himself, and taking Gu Mang away made me think of Chu Wanning rescuing Mo Ran!!

Head empty just Mo Xie & Gu Mang feels. Princess Mengze has barged in so we’ll see how that goes 😬

(Also I hadn’t come across the translation you linked! I thought there were no more. Thank you so much you are a life saver!!)

You are very welcome! That novel is so good it's cruel to have to stop midway!

And you have reached my favorite scene, Mo Xi, who is drowning in the truth and love, rescuing Gu Mang in the torture chamber! It totally breaks me every time.

(Between this and 2ha, it seems to be Meatbun's modus operandi to inflict the worst torture on her protag(s) after the audience already knows they are innocent so that would hurt more.

And yes, they love each other so much and are such good people and so soft with each other and SCREAMING!!!!!

In conclusion: IT'S THIS PASSAGE!!!!

#asks #yuwu #cnovel

[angieloveshua]

"Xihe-jun! Wangshu-jun! Princess Mengze!" The guard bowed to the three most powerful and trusted people inside the hall and said, "Medicine Master Jiang is back! He is waiting outside the hall!"

HE'S LITERALLY OUR ONLY SALVATION.

#yuwu #stains of filth #remnants of filth #meatbun doesn't eat meat #肉包不吃肉 #余污 #husband i trust you

[angieloveshua]

The cultivator in change of healing Gu Mang happened to have deep enmity with him. He actually reached out to rip off Gu Mang's mask—but just as he was about to remove it, a beam of jade-blue light suddenly hit his fingers!

That cultivator looked up immediately, but saw that the person who stopped him was none other than Murong Mengze, standing nearby.

Thanks, Princess.

#余污 #肉包不吃肉 #meatbun doesn't eat meat #yuwu #stains of filth #remnants of filth

[angieloveshua]

"Why not! I've heard from Xiao Hua in the next camp a long time ago that he met General Mo and Princess Mengze in the alley during the Duanyang Festival! For the convenience of traveling, Princess Mengze dressed up in men's clothes and brought a mask. However, when they kissed, they happened to be seen by Xiao Hua. General Mo was very careful and immediately blocked the face for Princess Mengze! The wife he protected was speechless."

This level of clownery, I—

#余污 #yuwu #stains of filth #remnants of filth #meatbun doesn't eat meat #肉包不吃肉 #se van a ir de nalga cuando se enteren de que mo xi es un manga corta #plz

[angieloveshua]

That year, in order to save him, she took on severe wounds, so that his heart wouldn't stop, so that his core wouldn't break. She even used the power from her own lifespan in exchange —from then on, she could no longer have a healthy body. She could never again cast powerful magic.

Princess Mengze really loves him ;_;

#肉包不吃肉 #meatbun doesn't eat meat #yuwu #stains of filth #remnants of filth #余污 #god bless her