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Since I'm neck-deep in this nonsensical mess of the half-lizard Lycaon AU :

In VW's infodumps, Rhea says this :

I was never able to forgive those who proudly wielded weapons crafted from the corpses of my brethren.

Which might explain her, uh, drive to hunt the Elites, even after Nemesis kicked the bucket.

From this we can have a sort of timeline : Nemesis dies, then Daphnel joins him and "zealots" aka, the Empire soldiers, are after the head of the Elite writing this (Maurice?). The author wonders why Seiros despises them so much.

And we know Rhea stopped hunting Maurice - when her drive for revenge was all that, supposedly, motivated her, when she will "never be able to forgive" those who wielded weapons crafted from dead nabateans who were in Zanado -

Not when Cethleann fell in a coma (that's heavily inferred to have happened post Tailtean), not when Cichol left, not when Macuil "died" during Tailtean, even without her relatives (brothers?) Rhea still pushed on to avenge her dead family members and kill the Elites -

The War of Heroes - thus Seiros's hunt for the Elites - stops when Lycaon dies.

We can suppose Rhea, who had no allies left anymore (the Saints left, the Empire is in turmoil) couldn't pursue the Elites... but they also had no one left with them, their clans already joined the Empire so they're just 10ish dudes running away from a very long lived, and furious, dragon : if revenge was the only thing on her mind, Rhea would have finished the job and killed Maurice.

And yet, even if the job was unfinished... Rhea stopped, and built Garreg Mach.

We went from a "revenge for dead family members" Seiros to a "only Sothis can guide and lead the world" Rhea.

Rhea could have switched and realised Adrestia would never be able to guide the people of Fodlan when Lycaon "was k-died" - if Adrestia becomes a viper's nest the second Wilhelm leaves the throne, then it cannot guide the people of Fodlan.

Yes, but what about Muriel, the Nabatean turned into Blutgang? Who gives a crap about what humans are doing or what will be the "state of the world" when one of Rhea's precious kin is still held by a bastard she will "never be able to forgive" ? Why should she bother about Fodlan now when one of her siblings is still missing?

If revenge was everything on her mind, why the frick did she stop and let Maurice run away?

But if Lycaon was her own kid - when he dies it's not only Adrestia's possibility to be something else than a viper's nest and to guide Fodlan who dies, but also the current possibility of having Nabateans live with humans -

There's no point in continuing to hunt Maurice, since whatever she does, there will still be a human out for Nabatean bones, willing to kill to gain power and that is something Seiros cannot prevent - Seiros + humans cannot build a world where Humans and Nabateans can coexist.

Who is the only person who can?

I also like this theory because it's a perfect parallel to FE16!Dimitri, with even more "crueler" result : being blinded with revenge doesn't kill her and all of her friends, but it has her survive everyone again - by wanting and focusing on the past, Seiros loses her present and her future (a future Adrestia where people would be able to live happily, a Fodlan where "might makes right" isn't the iron rule?). But instead of learning the "live for the present" lesson Dimitri ultimately does, Rhea... believes she is not the one able to protect the present+future, but Sothis is.

Sure, it'd feel kind of meh that Rhea doesn't turn to Sothis when Cethleann sleeps, Cichol leaves and, in general, 10k random humans die in the war, but when it's her kid who dies, she wants to bring back Sothis -

But in a way, Lycaon kicking the bucket after the War - after everyone fought and died to attain peace - is more impactful : they were in the "and they live happily ever after" part of the book, and he dies, meaning there is no "happily ever after" at all, rather, it never existed and will never exist !

Seiros the Warrior can warrior her way to get rid of Nemesis, but she cannot create a world where people - humans and nabateans alike - can live "happily ever after".

This realisation makes her break from "Seiros the Warrior" to become "The Archbishop" whose only goal is to bring back the Creator, so the Land can finally know peace.

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Granted, this realisation could also happen if Lycaon wasn't a half-lizard but 100% human : if he was the golden heir picked by Willy, I suppose she supported his choice to inherit the Adrestia they both created, his "accidental death" could really have hit her like a truck, in the sense that she might have thought this human - just like Willy - was a human able to steer Fodlan in the right direction and it was alright to trust humanity again...

Only for him to be "accidently dead" 7 years after his investiture, and his successor pulling the "might makes right" rule to ensure the throne is still hers after a stupid "duel".

Humanity is fucked -> even if she recovers Muriel's bones Fodlan will still stuck because no one can guide it humans just proved it -> Sothis has to return.

#fodlan nonsense #fodlan hc #is it wolf (FE16)'s hour? #I can't believe Momo managed to hide for 1000 years if Rhea was actively searching for him #and we know she hates the Elites so how come he managed to run away? #earlier i wondered what could have been the switch that made her lose faith in humanity #since she trusted them to guide Fodlan per the Imperial Oath of the red blood and white di i mean sword covenant #and now she believes only Sothis can guide and lead the wayward Fodlan #early Adrestia stuff #I guess #we have early seiros who thinks humans sus #then willy gives her a poptart and she thinks maybe they're not so bad and can lead fodlan #and then she thinks everyone sus only Sothis doesnt

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Does that mean Mercie and Supreme Leader could be distant cousins potentially? Guess it might be an idea in that 10000 year lore.

You have no idea how many cans of worm this AU opens anon -

AU where Dimi marries Mercie, and the resulting Blaiddyd heir has... a crest of Seiros :(

No one understands why, maybe it's a Hresvelg curse for destroying Adrestia?

With time, the Crest of Seiros is known as the Crest of Hresvelg (to Rhea's chagrin) and is now seen, in the Kingdom's folk legends, as a curse that befell humanity when it became too greedy.

AU where it's Papa Martritz's line that is a branch line from the Hresvelg House -

Ionius not managing to roll for crested heirs with his different wives jumped on the occasion to destroy House Martritz (even if it has a heir! in the over, but it exists still!) and put an end to eventual pretenders to the Imperial throne, if his "lady friends" can't give him an adequate crested heir :(

And even if the baby survives, it has a chance of not getting a crest of Seiros, and by virtue of not being a noble born baby, people might believe it's just a random bastard and not a legitimate threat to his dynasty

(Imagine if Baron Bartels got his seiros crested bby with Mercie though - hopefully, Emile made sure that plan would never see fruition!)

Ultimate combination AU : Mercie and Emile can tolerate Zanado fruits

Just like Constance!

Somehow, before being turned in a pincushion, lizard!Lycaon befriended Lamine's 9th daughter, who returned North when he "suddenly died" and Hildegard I (who descends from Willy's human children, the ones he got when he had his crest but from human women!) took his succession.

The resulting kid had no pointy ears but was "human passing" enough (only 1/4th Nabatean!), then said kid got kids - sometimes with a crest of Seiros, sometimes with the crest of Lamine - and their kids got kids - and they ended up in Adrestia, becoming Mercie's mom family.

Mercie will notice something strange because her parents recipe (that was influenced by her mom's cooking) always featured putting slices of fruit in the shape of a star on his various cupcakes - but then, those disgusting fruits Flayn, Seteth and even Lady Rhea nibble on occasion, when sliced, look like stars ? Granted, she never tried to eat any since everyone knows they're inedible! She tried to put a slice on a cupcake and ate it, to Annette and Dedue's surprise, she didn't threw up like everyone else, nor collapsed, even if Annette scolded her "Mercie, what are you even doing?! Those things can't be eaten!"

Overhearing Mercie's recipe history, Seteth frowns like never before - Lycaon used to hold hands with a scion of Lamine who joined their side (he told Seiros the Warrior to watch out because he was too young to hold hands, she ignored him, again!).

This will make Billy start to question themselves, if Rhea considered Mother like her daughter, and Mercedes is the child of the child of the child of the child (etc) of Rhea's son, is Mercedes their sort of nephew?

#anon #fodlan nonsense #lizard family time? #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #uncle cichol tried to teach him proper behaviour #but it was a lost cause he's willy's kid and grew up in Ancient Enbarr #Mercie and Emile would be part lizards? Or only Mercie? #Ionius weeding out the uneeded Hresvelg lines is something I could ultimately buy being necessary in his pov because #he feels like he has to be the empire's top dog #so no one else should challenge him #especially no important peons who can show up with a crest of seiros #imagine if the beast in Garreg Mach champions them instead of him?? #in the lycaon fucked AU #post war Rhea meets Mercie's mom for 'reasons' and they share a plate of zanado fruits and sweets #maybe realising the world went on and her family didn't completely die out might make Rhea reconsider the rez sothis plan? #in AG? #and then clout is yeeted from the verse so golden ending?

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not the other anon, but i read your lycaon posts and it kinds of make sense, even if it'd be kind of sad how rhea chooses to abandon humanity because her kid was killed

Oh, thanks, but it's just a headcanon!

Lycaon I is even less relevant than Ferdie in AM lol

As for that "half-nabatean lycaon" verse...

It's a bit more complicated - by abandoning humanity you mean working on the rez sothis plan ? - than that in that AU, because both Rhea and Willy (but he doesn't count since he died) feel guilty for Lycaon's death since, in those AUs, they're convinced he died because he was half-nabatean and it's their fault because they were supposed to have ended the war and killed the people who hunted pointy ears - Fodlan was supposed to be a safe space where Nabateans could abandon hair dye and, well, it's not.

Like, imagine a post FE7 situation, where Eliwood and Ninian and their friends think coexistence is possible and there could be a time, in the future, where humans and dragons could live together, like they do in Arcadia, but not hidden anymore. Roy pops up, but when he is introduced to, idk, the other nobles from the world in some sort of get together, Roy reveals he's not totally human, and gets diced as a result -

I could see Eliwood moving on, with a lot of support from his friends, but needing a lot of time to proceed.

But Rhea? Post WoH Rhea? Who "just" lost her family to the red canyon because, as far as she knows, they had pointy ears, and who loses right now her son for the same reason??

It's keeping with the general trend of her needing a "strong reason" or "another traumatic event" to make her fall to Sothis's return, when, per the Hresvelg Covenant, there was one point where she thought humans could guide the land themselves. And given how canon-wise the end of the War of Heroes, the beginning of the Monastery thus the period where she leaves Adrestia all have the same origin - Lycaon's death, I tried to honeypot around it lol

Just like some people thought FE16 actually deconstructs FE4 with the Holy Blood and weapons being, uh, not holy at all, I thought about FE7's ending. Eliwood marries Ninian and their son will later on become a hero who will save the continent!

Save that, this time, Roy dies in chapter 6 because he is not human and his closest friends and other nobles (in the Lycaon AU it's his own half-siblings and nephews + nobles!) cannot accept his heritage.

#anon #replies #fodlan nonsense #fodlan au #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #in that verse she still cares about humanity like she does in canon #bcs she's like that someone who cares #but lycaon is a trauma she didn't get over at all #like the wake up slap that no stop dreaming you can't guide humans humans can't guide themselves only Sothis can #I tried to write some random post about lycaon but it became way too serious and i kind of dropped it #let's say post lycaon death willy despairs and follows Seiros #he's depressive and doesn't believe in anything anymore Seiros is just coping with her 'mother will return just you wait' #ultimately his faith in the future in renewed at some point just before his death idk maybe by seeing Noa's scions or something #they shouldn't give up and can still build an ideal world and he tries to say this to Rhea but then woopsies he dies #rhea's faith in fodlan and humanity only happens when she drops sothis like maybe in an AG/AM route #rather AM #maybe they're still hope somewhere but it'll come imo more from Flayn and Billy interacting with humans and telling them their sekrit than #something she realises on her own #FE16

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in your half lizard au, if lycaon was really rhea's son, would she have agreed to let him fight?

Well, Rhea refuses to let Cyril fight in AG because his death would make her upset, and yet he still fights so maybe she allows the kids to fight under certain circumstances, unlike overprotective Cichol?

I have this scene where Lycaon, full of Hresvelg assholery, uses some argument like "you couldn't protect your mother and she died, but I will protect my mom" hitting so many guilt/trauma buttons at once (Rhea feeling like dirt because Sothis died, Rhea feeling like dirt for being Zanado's sole survivor) that she couldn't find anything to rebuke him.

Willy gets big mad and has him apologise at once to his mom, while Seiros the Warrior dissociates - it was Rhea who was a weakling and couldn't protect anyone, she's strong now, she is Seiros - a name taken after the Goddess herself! - a Warrior who is strong and she will protect her family.

Of course we all know how that ends when Lycaon dies :)

#anon #replies #fodlan nonsense #fodlan au #is it wolf (FE16)'s hour? #look at him being a Hresvelg asshole (tm) #he inherited grandma's sothis lack of manners and tact #the worst of both worlds #tfw Willy is the one who has to act as the responsible parent #Rhea stuff #maybe Cyril reminded her of Lycaon? At least he didn't die in battle #Without the assholery of course he's not a Hresvelg

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when i’m telling you not to buy everything you see on internet

If this person who edited the wiki takes Nopes as canon, Lycaon is indeed Wilhelm’s son, but Willy gave him the crown was he was still alive.

Willy survived Lycaon, not the inverse!

#fandom woes #seriously #is it wolf (FE16)'s hour? #poor guy 3 lines and they're not even read when people post about him #3 nopes #FE16

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"if Willy did the right and sensible thing as in, let the clans rule over their lands/people after taking over them because those clans knew how to rule/administrate over those lands and their people [...]" When I read that I thought "Nopes had a house split after WoH cause of a land dispute in Doro and Flayn's support." Then I checked the support on a wiki and it said "Having settled their differences, the brothers petitioned the emperor to change their territories. So that there would be"(1/2)

Hm...

Let's take a map of Fodlan from Nopes (thanks to the person who made it on reddit!) :

Menja and Fenja are located in what would later be Adrestia - but apparently they wanted to get lands to the west and east "ends" of the Empire, aka not Adrestia post WoH, but an Adrestia the size of Fodlan - the west and east "ends" of the Empire aren't located where they now are, for the east it'd be either Goneril and/or Riegan and for the west it'd be Nuvelle and/or Dominic lands?

Unless we're supposed to take the "with the capital between" as them only wanting lands under a certain latitude - like a line and having Enbarr be on the same line ?

Bear in mind post WoH, it's not Willy who's the Emperor, but Lycaon - and I find it hilarious how Fenja'n'Menja brothers were ready to throw hands (swords) and break the hard won peace to grab some land, when they're most likely from the South (aka the current Adrestia and the first people to have been conquered by willy?)

Imagine new Emperor Lycaon, battle-weary, finally returning to the South, the part of his new Empire that should be the most stable without any fighting, where people are supposed to be living peacefully and he's welcomed by this :

The brother of an Imperial noble started a conflict regarding the succession of their territory. It was a minor struggle at first, but gradually the other neighboring lords became caught up as well. It became quite the event. One thing spiraled into another, and soon they were on the cusp of a war that threatened to splinter the very Empire itself.

And that war was halted by a songstress!

Like, you have a "mere" succession issue that snowballs in a civil war and threatens to splinter the Empire rising from the very people who were supposed to be a pillar of stability in this new Fodlan sized Adrestia, meanwhile the descendants of the Elites - their former swon enemies - aren't making a fuss and aren't starting new conflicts....

Lycaon maybe just gave them lands without thinking, just to have them shut up and not start a new war - granted, given how those lands are located near Hervring/Aegir, I wonder if those crested families (who maybe descend from the ones who first got their blood from cichol'n'cethleann? Or those "ones" were still alive?) didn't just, accept to amputate part of their lands and given it to the morons, to nip this issue in the bud, and keep some stability in the Empire.

"mere" succesion issues is why Lycaon "was died" in the half-lizard AU though so...

#anon #replies #adrestia stuff #war of heroes stuff #is it wolf (fe16's) hour? #poor guy #he inherits the empire from his dad and the first crisis is something stupid like that #not killing genocidal evil doers or whatever #just bob and karl starting a civil war because they want lands #what a job 'thanks dad' #3 nopes #since this happens in the Nopes continuity

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Do you think seiros and wilhelm did the thing ?

That's what Cichol had to learn when he popped up in Enbarr.

Maybe his sister is just being friendly with that human (who ended up with his shield !), and Lycaon requiring a diaper change is another survivor of the massacre !

(his wife wanted to sigh, but Cichol was clearly high on copium)

But then, Lycaon jumped off from his wyvern while they were patrolling, telling him he wanted to "fly like mama".

Maybe Rhea is just a bad influence !

Ultimately, Lycaon ate once, his golden Zanado fruit, a delicacy !, with copious amounts of ketchup, informing Cichol that such bad taste, that cannot be acquired but had to be inherited, came from his fool of a mother who always had a fascination for ketchup.

Macuil called him stupid, they smell similar and stupid rhea called this tiny thing her son, he didn't hear or something ?

#anon #replies #fodlan nonsense #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #is it the wilhelm hour? #He's part of it #Seteth mentally erased from his memory all instances of walking on them hand holding #Indech had doubts too Rhea swims like a rock but when he threw Lycaon in a pond the kid laughed #Cethleann tried to teach her cousin how to roar #It worked as expected #Willy wondered if they should invade Dagda for more tomatoes given how Seiros kept on eating them #But the seeds they exchanged for turnips are growing nicely so maybe they won't need to invade

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More about nabatean!Lycaon, since I always miss his death anniversary -

Before being stabbed 23 times, Lycaon was alienating not the people - they loved him and cheered for him and all - but the Enbarr Senate.

and wanted to write a shitpost but then it became kind of sad

The Senate suggests they put a real military presence in the North, and deport their people around while they move “unlucky Enbarrians but not us” there to civilise some of them. Emperor Lycaon disagrees, his mom spared the families of the Elite and their followers, it’s not to lose their home.

They explain why they thought about this, they shall treat and consider the northerners as second rate citizens, for now, not to alienate the Enbarrians who fought and won against them? Some Adrestians died in the war, their families cannot accept that the ones who killed their husbands/fathers/sons/etc are still alive and living as if nothing happened! Afterwards they will become “regular” Adrestian citizens.

Lycaon of course refuses, why should they consider people second rate citizens ? And how can they say they live as if nothing happened, have they seen the state of the cities up north, ravaged by war?

“Everyone is Adrestian now, there is no need to war against fellow brothers!”

Which of course pisses his relatives is he giving more consideration to those northern barbarians than to his own kin?

Then some senators try to argue using what Willy did, “your esteemed Father displaced the inhabitants of Boramas around the newborn Empire, while it was being created, after invading them - if you let those people with their followers in their lands, they will obviously foment a rebellion!”

“They won’t rebel if we don’t give them any reason to!”

But faced with a wall - the Senate thinking the new Emperor is naïve (and wanting to get some ressources and maybe “free workers” from the North) - and Lycaon not understanding why everything isn’t alright now that Nemesis is dead.

Willy tries to tell him to be more patient, but Lycaon doesn’t want, people need help in the North right now - while mom is mopping up the remnants of the Elites - Willy insists, he cannot force people to help, it is something Enbarrians have to accept.

Lycaon nods and tries, again, to convince the Enbarr nobility/Senate, saying the people from the North are like them, they might have fought before, but now, the ones they must help are people who sing, eat, sleep, and live like they do, so instead of only bringing a military presence, they could instead bring roads, canals, baths, scholars, etc etc.

The final nail in the coffin that makes him disregard the curia completely is when one of his older brother goes “Emperor, those people aren’t like us. They are beasts and savages, they should be pacified and treated accordingly. After all, we are followers of the Divine Seiros, and she won against their hero, Nemesis. We won over them.”

And it pisses him - his mom’s church is the organisation trying to help all the non-soldiers and non-fighters and the ones who surrendered, his mom spared the children and families of the Elites, what “winning” means for them? Why are they distorting what she did and does to suit their own needs? - so he snaps “what do you mean you won? I don’t recall seeing you fighting out there, or even following Saint Seiros herself to support the ones who need help. To me, your lot never won anything, but I did, and I will decide what to do, whether you agree or not.”

Of course there were some cries of “Emperor this is no joke”, “are you bypassing the Senate’s approval?” “This institution was conserved by your Father!” etc etc - with the Hresvelgs being even more pissed thanks to their inferiority complex and being jealous, so they’re the first ones to suggest here and there that the new Emperor is a tyrant, etc etc.

Some of his friends try to reason him - sure those crusty people are idiots and never left Enbarr to see what was going on in the North - but he can’t really ignore them, can he? They are also part of the “people” he has to guide and protect! Maybe they have a point, after all, they managed to get the Empire running while they were away fighting, if their ideas sound ridiculous.

Lycaon returns for the next weekly session, and tries to convince them, again, of his plans “we can’t ask those people for reparation wheb they already lost everything!” but there’s always someone who gives a troll reply “why not make them the reparations? They can work for free as servants!” which angers him, and other trolls pop up saying kind of loudly “the Emperor spent too much time with those barbarians, his judgment is clouded”.

His friends - Gloucester’s third grandaughter twice removed and Lamine’s thirty second son - tell him not to give up, he’s also fighting for a sort of peace right now, even if it doesn’t involve swords and shields - but Lycaon thinks he never thought being an Emperor would be so complicated, and wants to ask his dad for advice and what he should do.

Seeing how the people of Enbarr seem to like him - for a reasons he doesn’t even understand - and his northerner “friends”, maybe the key to solve the issue is to make the Senate “like” northerners and his friends ? 

So he tries to rekindle with his family - but they resent him because he was appointed to be Emperor and it means they’re worthless now, he denies, they are still family and they can work together with him for Adrestia’s future, however he adds the wrong words “like my northerner friends!” and it’s a big no-no. 

They are not northerners, they are Hresvelgs, and they are worth more than barbarians! - Lycaon misses how he actually made things worse.

His oldest nephew comes up with a “plan TM” to make him realise good Enbarrians will never accept Northerners, and brings the textbook widow and orphans, who lost their husband/fathers to the war, due to Northeners.

“What are your Northerners allies going to do to repair their loss? Toil the land instead of the missing husband? Raise the child instead of the missing father?”

And Lycaon’s answer is some bullcrap like “then I will toil the land and raise the child myself, and if I cannot do it, I will allocate even more funds to the Church of Seiros to help everyone who lost someone during the War. And I’ll start with those cushions here, they are comfy, but they can be put to better use for people who need something to sleep on.”

So the “textbook widow and orphan” leave singing the Emperor’s praises (and the CoS!) but to the Senate he said the worst thing ever - allocating their money to support peons and those damn northeners? The Emperor isn’t thinking straight, and hasn’t been for a long time now, since he returned from the War (”maybe Emperor Lycaon isn’t as visionary as Emperor Wilhelm was”).

Lycaon knows he messed up - but still doesn’t realise why and how - so when he meets his Dad to talk about how he thinks he can never measure to him, Willy tries to reassure him he is already doing a great job and hey, he never had to do what he actually does.

Willy is serious for once, and tells him that now and back then are different, people aren’t fighting with swords but words, and it’s a better thing, at least no one dies because they disagree, right? 

Also, what Lycaon wants to bring is a definite change from the current order of things in Adrestia, it will take time, time to make people accept it, and time because exchanging and fighting with words is always longer and harder than talking with swords. But that’s the choice they made.

Lycaon feels a bit better - but still thinks he needs to change things faster, to make sure his parent’s efforts wasn’t in vain and also, because he really wants to make those people who praise him feel like they’re praising him for something else than being born.

Just before Willy’s departure - as the former Emperor he visits some places to check if everything is alright and if it is not he tries to ease Lycaon’s burden to the best of his abilities - for Boramas, Lycaon tells him his master plan to make the Senate admit Northeners are like them, and they should help each other instead of trying to push the other down,

“I’ll reveal the truth about me!”

Former Emperor Wilhelm refuses - Lycaon is a human blessed by the Goddess since he descends from Seiros, he cannot tell the world Nabateans exist  “Fodlan is not ready yet. We haven’t found the ones who helped Nemesis!”

But Lycaon is stubborn - and says he’s proud to be both human and nabatean - his birth means different people can live together, of course he won’t reveal anything about the “golden weapons”, but as the Emperor it is his duty to guide Fodlan, and he’ll show Fodlan that yes, northerners or Enbarrians, Nabateans or humans, everyone can live together and work together.

Wilhelm is still doubtful, but trusts him (that’d be the last time he sees him alive).

Lycaon tells his plan about the big reveal for the next Curia session to his Hresvelg family, because they are family and if he has been an ass before, maybe they can rekindle their relationship now - he actually signs his death warrant (that was already being written) : if Lycaon reveals he is not human, then even after his natural death (in centuries?), they will never get to inherit the throne because the throne would have to go to his “lizardspawns”, and their human line will just cease to exist! If they have some importance now, it’s because they are from Emperor Wilhelm’s family, but if Lycaon reveals the truth about his mother - then they will just be regular humans, compared to the Goddess’s direct line!

And so they plan for a surprise party, telling him the session starts earlier today because his niece wants to tell him something - and all Senators, even the non-Hresvelg ones who see him as a tyrant, participateù! They slaughter him, a Hresvelg even calling him a “degenerate beast spawn” - Lycaon dies cursing his relatives, while apologising to his parents for not being an Emperor able to guide Fodlan as they would have wanted.

(Thales who ran away from the northern operations after Epimenides was blasted to smithereens finds a rekindled hope, those human-beasts can turn against themselves, but also against Sothis’s kin on their own! Imagine what they could do with a little push, maybe Nemesis wasn’t just a one of a kind fool, and they can create another one?)

Lycaon’s assassination is spread all around Enbarr, and the perpetrators of course blame his retinue of Northerners - so they have to run away (with a Hresvelg in the oven?) and Willy picks up what’s left of his beloved son. 

After Seiros’s pathetic attempts (who ran from the place she was hunting Momo to Enbarr when she felt something was “wrong” with Lycaon) to hit him with the SoC to “wake him” up - they agree to call an end to the WoH - a pointless war for Willy because in the end no one can accept people who are different, and a pointless war for Rhea, because by wanting justice for her deceased family she wasn’t able to protect her living one.

Lycaon is entombed in the Holy Tomb - Wilhelm promises his descendants (especially the great grand daughter who offered sympathies and swore to avenge her uncle by eradicating those damn northeners) he won’t tell the truth to Seiros and they’re free to fuck off, but there will be payback one day and they should be prepared for it - and Rhea immediately works on building the Monastery and preparing a plan to resurrect Sothis (sure she will be scolded, but Cethleann, Lycaon, her siblings, and Cichol’s wife will return!).

#Each time I miss the ides of march :( #Fodlan AU #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #Get rekt lol #Lycaon wanted fast change and died as a result #But there was no reasoning with his family #Epilogue of the WoH : Fodlan is doomed #It didn't even need the help of the Mole people ! #Fe16 #This Gloucester person ended up with a quarter nabatean #But the bby ultimately traveled to Almyra and settled there #So no Lorenz isn't Rhea's great great great great great grandson #Here is a rare instance of willy using his brain #Big L for them Wolf died #is it the wilhelm hour?

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Thinking a bit more about Carol the Imperial General who wonders why the Church isn’t helping Adrestia like it oughts to -

I find it funny how Carol notes :

A thousand years ago, Saint Seiros appeared in Enbarr and guided the founding of Adrestia. She also built Garreg Mach, though in the end she left the Empire entirely

Per Carol’s recollection, Seiros popped up in Enbarr, helped create Adrestia, built Garreg Mach and then completely left the Empire.

Bar the blatant Willy erasure - which might be deliberate, we’re shifting the blame and role on the CoS here, not on the Imperial line, thus no mention of Wilhelm’s line having to “protect the people of Adrestia”, nah, that stupid stuff is just something Seiros and her Church should do, else some people might wonder why Wilhelm’s descendant dgaf about her people’s lives - to Carol and some Imperial Nobles, the timeline goes WoH -> Garreg Mach -> end of Seiros in Adrestia?

Or did she left Adrestia at the same time Wilhelm did, after Lycaon’s death?

Like 

98 : Lycaon kicks the bucket - the War of Heroes ends

Wilhelm leaves Adrestia, he and Seiros travel to Indech’s hamlet to return Cichol’s shield.

Around the same time (or shortly after?) Seiros starts to build GM, which is rumoured, by a NPC, to have taken around 100 years to build with magic, meaning Rhea roughly started around that time.

Are we supposed to guess that after Lycaon’s death, both Wilhelm and Rhea left Adrestia - Wilhelm left Adrestia to its own devices, and Rhea started her rez Sothis plan - when she could have done so for the last 7 years.

I know it’s just an AU and all, but given how Lycaon’s death meant the end of the War, thus for Rhea, the end of her hunt for the Elites (Momo escaped!) and the start of the rez Sothis plan, idk what he was to her, but his death was “important” enough to make her stop “avenging” her dead siblings and seek to return the Creator to this world asap.

The pieces kind of fit : What would be a better reason for Rhea to stop hunting the Elites - thus saving Momo - than the realisation that her quest for vengeance and justice for her dead relatives cost her her living son ?

Immediately feeling like dirt - Seiros the Warrior was supposed to be the Protector and Guardian of Fodlan, but Seiros the Warrior couldn’t even protect her own kid - she’d start to build the Monastery, and work on the Sothis Rez plan, Seiros the Warrior is a fraud, only Sothis the Progenitor God can guide and lead Fodlan and its inhabitants.

It’d suck for the Adrestia though - the second Lycaon dies they lose their heroic founding figures ? - but it’d be the start of their descent and loss of the Mandate of Heaven, especially if Lycaon didn’t die from “a sudden illness” but was rekt’d at home by relatives or the Adrestians he was supposed to help.

#Fodlan AU #Adrestia stuff #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #Lycaon dies and with him Adrestia does lol #both Willy and Seiros bail out #Adrestia is fucked #and we end up with the emperor who wages her throne on a duel and the one who feeds northerners to beasts etc etc #I know it's only an AU but damn if it works #or at least has enough canon material to fit #FE16 #3 nopes

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Edelgard's family claims descent from Seiros, which would mean that Rhea's family didn't control the continent from the shadows. They openly controlled all of Fodlan until the Slithers broke up the Empire. Though considering how Edelgard's source was confirmed by Hubert to be a Slither puppet, and how the Slithers view themselves as the only real humans, it starts adding up to Edelgard not connecting some pretty blatant dots due to her "I need to do reconquer Fodlan" tunnelvision.

That's what I don't really understand with the Adrestian Emperors.

Do they know they don't really descend from Seiros, and only got some "Seiros gave Willy, our progenitor, a crest, thus we have it" - which would explain why Supreme Leader seems to think Nabateans "gave" crests to humans, and seen through her "MAGA for Humans" lens it was only to control them -

Or are they really thinking they descend from Seiros, but only she and her brothers (her full blooded non human relatives) rule over the world?

I had a plotbunny about the Lycaon I is Rhea's kid AU : succession crisis happens because Wilhelm might already have had children (who had children themselves) when he received his crest, before Lycaon was born (or after idk), but when Willy picked Lycaon, the half-human as his successor, his "100% human" heirs felt cheated.

Lycaon dying "suddenly" and "mysteriously" young means that the human line of Wilhelm's descendants become the ruling one in Adrestia, so while Edel isn't Rhea's descendant, maybe her ancestor still bore a grudge at Wilhelm for trying to placate his "inhuman" son as the heir, and it turned into "that inhuman child was Seiros's child, she tried to make one of her kin the Emperor of Adrestia", ultimately morphing into "Seiros and her family rules over Fodlan in the shadows" - family wouldn't mean Lycaon since he died, but for a while, just after Nemesis's death, Fodlan was effectively ruled by Seiros's inhuman kin.

Back to canon, do we know Hubert is the one who told her about Willy's sekrit History?

I swear this shitty "church controlled the continent" nonsensical take wouldn't have that much traction if NoA didn't fuck up and sold the game as "Fodlan is a continent controlled by the Church of Seiros". It has never been the case, even post WoH.

The main power in charge of the continent used to be Adrestia.

#fantasyinvader #FE16 #is it the wilhelm hour? #willy's sekrit history #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #i mean partly #the double line for the Hresvelg family would explain some stuff #But yep that sekrit history either was passed by mole people or by Emperors who were super pissed at Rhea for some reason

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Do we know if Humans and Nabateans can have children? I thought Flayn's mother was a Nabatean too, since she got her crest.

Technically, Flayn never says she got her crest from her Mother !

Nopes wise, in the jp version, Sothis doesn't seem to know her (she knew another Light Dragon?) and calls her a wonder - but jury is out whether she thinks Flayn is a wonder because she was born after, or during, her Big Nap, or bcs she Flayn is a hybrid.

So Flayn being half-nabatean is, basically, headcanon.

However...

Immediately after the war, Flayn disappeared from Garreg Mach. At the same time, Linhardt mysteriously abandoned his claim to House Hevring, and also vanished. It was suspected, among those who knew them, that they had eloped, although no one seemed to know just where they went. Over a decade later, well after the Officers Academy had been rebuilt, something strange happened. A sleepy young girl with antiquated clothing and the Major Crest of Cethleann enrolled. Over the next two years, a young boy and girl with that same Crest also enrolled. Though Crest scholars deduced that they must be siblings, the truth of their lineage was never definitely proven.

Flayn's ending with Linhardt in FE16 is explicit, they got at least 3 children who were "viable" enough to enrol (also, are we supposed to understand in the new GM, children as old as 10 can enrol?).

Canon-wise, Nabateans and humans can have children !

Headcanon wise...

It has always been a possibility that fascinated me, especially because Supreme Leader is so biased against Nabateans when she could be of Nabatean descent herself, via Lycaon - but headcanons are fickle things lol

So there is an AU where Lycaon is a half-lizard, and is killed because of that - which leads Willy to ditch Adrestia and Rhea to abandon hope in Humanity to work on her rez Sothis plan.

Half-lizard Lycaon managed to fuck before dying, which would later lead to the Martritz siblings being hybrids too (but with 500 generations between them and Lycaon lol) - Supreme Leader and her ancestors descends from Empress Hildegarde, the scion of a kid Willy got after receiving his crest, who was never supposed to sit on the Adrestian throne but who took it nonethless when Lycaon "accidently died".

tldr : the matritz sibs are Rhea's far removed descendants

Noa, the apostle, was a Nabatean, and got her own children who ultimately formed the elusive House Nuvelle - they swore an oath of mutual assistance with House Hresvelg (their supposed cousins!) but with time that oath and its origin was forgotten, House Nuvelle just remembers they have a vow of allegeance to House Hresvelg.

Seteth's wife being a human (per his and Flayn's recollections, she was someone like Manuela and Judith??? Why couldn't we see her IS? KT?) is a HC I'll die for, her presence and support might have influenced some Nabateans on thinking maybe all humans weren't bad, and how they could work with some of them.

#anon #replies #nabatean stuff #Fodlan AU #where are the secret half nabatean kids and heritage??? #I mean come on in Tellius we have a secret branded who descends from a hero #given how Elibe was set up with FE7 I supposed we are supposed to understand Roy can use the SoS to save Idunn because he's part lizard too #is it wolf(fe16)'s hour? #the intersection of so many AUs lol based on the sole exploration of this incident #Nabateans and humans can and did fuck #it's also funny because the Martritz sibs don't have a crest of Seiros but a crest of Lamine #at one point their Seiros-Nabatean blood became so thin #that they could inherit blood from the nabatean who was foddered to Lamine #FE16

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Re :

Thinking about that Lycaon I being half-lizard who mysteriously dies so Willy’s human descendants take the throne AU -

It would be dramatic because while Seiros the Warrior and pals focused on the people who had relics and all, the Mole People already “infiltrated” Adrestia that early -

And instead of having deep Earl Grey, let the mole people play on preexisting biases and dark thoughts, thus Lycaon wouldn’t be killed by mole people, but by his “siblings/nephews” who really wanted that throne -

Why?

Because meritocracy gone wrong!

Willy said people with best interests at heart should rule/become nobles, and let’s say Lycaon, by virtue of having been raised by his mom and what's left of his maternal fam, has them.

What about the other “humans” who also have those best interests at heart, and really want to help the people? Why shouldn’t they inherit the Adrestian throne?

Comes the Meritocracy angle, and by virtue of being a Nabatean, Lycaon I is the better fighter (compared to his siblings/nephews).

Lycaon I would be the perfect king/emperor candidate, popular, talented, wise beyond his years (that’s the catch, he isn’t a regular teen, he is older) -> he has the most merit, so what is supposed to happen to the “human” Hresvelgs?

They will always feel inferior to their “brother/uncle”, and never be a match for him - worse, they will never sit on Enbarr’s throne.

Coupled with maybe Solon suggesting that of course Lycaon would think of them as inferior and lesser beings, because he might be their brother/uncle, he is first and foremost not a human, a descendant of a beast who inherently feels superior to them. Why would he even bother with his “inferior relatives”?

(Something like the Hresvelgs being on the verge of falling down a cliff, and finally falling with a push from a mole man)

Lycaon is thus killed by his siblings (or their descendants) and Willy, who heavily suspects the “jealousy” reason - if he was an Enbarr Lord, maybe he knew all about those political assassinations or something - gives up, he’s just here to see the next Emperor and maybe crown her, but then he fucks away.

If he partly (?) fought against Nemesis because he thought Nemesis was the reason why Nabateans and Humans cannot coexist peacefully, then he is slapped in the face as he sees his own blood killing itself for petty reasons and just, jealousy.

What would that mean for Rhea though...

Maybe Lycaon’s death would be the turning point where she thinks only Sothis can guide the land, and ultimately launch her on her “rez sothis plan” because Nabateans can’t guide the land (it lead to the first agarthan war), humans obviously can’t (remember Nemesis?) and “Human and Nabateans” together failed, since Lycaon was assassinated, so it only leaves Sothis. Maybe Wilhelm also came to the same conclusion, and he passed away while they were building Garreg Mach, furthering Rhea’s determination to resurrect Sothis and have her “repair” the world.

Even if, in that case, I don’t think Wilhelm would tell Rhea everything, maybe just something like “Lycaon was killed” and not who killed him, and why. Rhea drew her own conclusions (humans because he was half-nabatean) which weren’t wrong, per se, but not as petty as "third niece thrice removed Martha had him killed because she wanted to sit on the throne".

As for Adrestia, meanwhile, it would explain why an Aegir thought he could become Emperor of Adrestia by challenging the current one to a duel - even if the Hresvelgs are supposed to be Emperors because they descend from both Willy and Seiros the Warrior - if that Aegir knew the current Emperor became, well, Emperor after getting rid of Lycaon, and, in a way, usurping the title, it's free real estate to run for the title.

Tldr : someone should have smashed Willy's nuts to save Fodlan.

#Fodlan au #is it the wilhelm hour? #Fe16 #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #Adrestia stuff #pre imperial era #Sort of? #Willy's story would be fucks around get a crest fucks around and then preach to the goddess #Issues arise when all that fucking around and preaching to the goddess produced kiddies

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I've been reading your headcannon posts, but i wonder why you thought saint luca was lycaon?

i never thought so many people would get interested in this random stuff lol but thanks!

I think it was when the porn - I mean, the Tome of Comely Saints was datamined, and we got a mention of Saint Luca, which immediately made me wonder about the Luca golem -

If Rhea has a Chevalier Golem and a Willy Golem, given how we know those two persons were important to her (Chevalier helped her after the WoH with the Rite of Rising and was an apostle (maybe another sib?) and Willy was, well, Willy) then Luca the Golem references a RL Luca who must also have been someone important, like Willy and Chevalier were?

And now, with Nopes, we know Luca was also a Saint (the artbook mentionned way more saints than the 4 ones we all know'n'love!)...

But then, the lizard paralogue happened and I took a closer look at Lycaon and wondered, since the names are sort of similar, if Luca wasn't a diminutive of Lycaon, since we also have the same stuff with Supreme Leader being called by her close ones "El".

Maybe it was a tradition in the Imperial line (starting with Willy) ?

#anon #replies #fodlan hc #fodlan nonsense #i'm too lazy to write fics so i shitpost instead! #emperor willy #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #more seriously i suppose his diminutive was wil #but for fodlan nonsense shitposts he's obviously willy #fe16 #those golems are useful now we know Rhea had at least 8 people she really really really cared about #granted why Chevalier was given special privilege with a golem name when Aubin wasn't? #maybe he gave her a zanado fruit or something #Who were Iris Marcelle Bernard and Gajus? #humans from the pre imperial era? #ngl the willy golem made me fall in that hole about Rhea's human friends #and we know how it ended

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if in your headcannon rhea was really lycadon's mother, how would she have reacted to his deaht?

Oh -

Not well, that's for sure!

Still, I think that she had the "perfect solution" to this new disaster - Sothis.

When Sothis and her world died (Zanado), Rhea rushed to Nemesis to kill him. If Sothis isn't only her Mother, but also the Creator, maybe Sothis could also "bring back" Lycaon?

Canon!Rhea mentions how she wanted to bring back the Progenitor God and recover everything she had lost - does this include her dead family members (the people butchered in Zanado), so, hc wise, could it include Lycaon (and Willy, and Cichol's wife, and etc...)?

But imo, and sadder, there's this line :

I swear that upon this throne, I shall use my reign to lead Fódlan to a new dawn and achieve peace for all.

This is from Supreme Leader's coronation ceremony, and supposedly the words passed down from the Willy era to, well, Supreme Leader herself.

Rhea - I mean, Seiros the Warrior - trusted, at one point, Willy and House Hresvelg to "lead/guide Fodlan", something she later thinks - as Rhea - is a job only Sothis can do.

So what if Seiros the Warrior, who really believed the words she told Willy, came to believe the world, Fodlan, and herself, could continue and move on without Sothis, because other people will "guide" the land to prosperity?

And then, lol, Lycaon dies. Seiros the Warrior who "dared" to hope and to believe in a world that could go round without the Creator... receives the worst wake-up slap ever, no, Fodlan is fucked without Sothis, and she had to lose her kid to remember it.

And now, in 1180, Rhea thinks only Sothis can rule/guide the "wayward land", or mentionning how Zanado was only a "temporary haven" for Sothis.

Tl;Dr : of course she didn't party at the news, but for a desperate Rhea who really believed the shiny sword that is her mom is able to resurrect everyone, Lycaon's death isn't as hurtful as Sothis's death, because bringing Sothis back means Lycaon (and everyone else) will be brought back.

Now, it might also have ignited then fueled her drive and obsession to resurrect Sothis who could : make the world go round, protect the remaining Nabateans, and bring back the dead ones (including Lycaon).

Bear in mind Rhea only starts to build Garreg Mach after Lycaon's death, and not the second after recovering Sothis. Son or not son, his death was meaningful enough to her make her interrupt her Maurice hunt, and start to build the Monastery.

(Willy ditched his Empire after Lycaon's death)

#anon #replies #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #rhea stuff #if sothis is the answer to everything then she has to be able to answer #thus she has to return #imagine noa and co though wondering where is her kid #'no worries he's just asleep now we need to resurrect mother and everyone will wake up' #'okay...' 'she's not doing well right?' 'I think we have to help her somehow' 'but how?' #lizard family time? #rather lizard disaster time #fodlan au #fodlan hc #rather everything tagged with willy or with wolf is basically hc lol

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no headcannon about labrunta?

Labraunda?

Let's see...

In Nopes, a NPC says it was found in the Imperial palace, like some other Holy Weapons (other sacred weapons) so maybe after the WoH Macuil and Indech didn't recover them and left them to their human friends, or Adrestia seized them from whatever place they were left in...

And current Adrestia is the kind of entity who will "seize" useful weapons if they happen on them (thanks to a NPC).

Granted, for who Labraunda would have been made? Rhea already fights using a sword, and she has no rank in axes.

Wilhelm? Willy was a Holy Knight, and you can bet your ass off that if Labraunda was Willy's weapon, it would have been identified as such (maybe by Supreme Leader who MAGAs or even Rhea who would be royally pissed), but nope, the weapon associated to Willy in 3 Nopes is Seteth's a shield.

If Labraunda really is from the WoH, Rhea only gave her blood to Wilhelm, which was passed on to his descendants, and we know who was his son (or at least one of them?).

Was Labraunda Lycaon's weapon?

HC it was but

with the added twist that it's super weird that Labraunda is, in 3 Nopes, a very plain weapon without any additional effects like the other Sacred Weapons.

And so, because MH has been eating at my mind and to celebrate today's legendary hero in FEH, Labraunda isn't a regular axe, but some sort of switch axe/weapon like Eckesachs but if Zeph used its spear mode.

lycaon was very sad he couldn't transform like mom so his uncles made a weapon that would transform for him

Supreme Leader cannot unlock the "switch mode", just like other emperors before her -

Helga I, who succeeded Lycaon after his "illness" swore on his axe to continue his fight to bring prosperity and peace to Adrestia, and used it to behead her the co-conspirators who planned the previous Emperor's "illness".

The weapon's association to Lycaon was lost to time, and it just became a random "holy axe" stored in the vault of Adrestia's glorious past - in fact, when Supreme Leader used it in Nopes to sack the Monastery, Rhea didn't immediately recognise it because it wasn't as shiny and polished as it had been back then and moreover, it didn't switch. Then she was in denial when they clashed blades, because it really looks like Labraunda but it cannot be, okay the Hresvelg opposes her but she wouldn't dare to use her own son's weapon against her, would she?

(maybe this is the reason why she was so adamant to recover Willy's shield?).

When Rhea recovers Labraunda from Supreme Puppet, she feels bad because this was Lycaon's weapon, he would never have used it like it was used for during this war, and she will keep "him" with her, until the Goddess walks the land again.

Then, she activates the "switch mode" to see if it's broken - which make the BL weapon nerds happy and super curious because "wow what kind of weapon is this" and even Supreme Puppet watches in awe, this thing is seriously super cool!

#anon #replies #fodlan nonsense #fodlan AU #lizard family time? #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour? #fun fact i checked and in nopes the ochain shield makes you immune to status effects #and gives a huge boost to def #like Willy was a wall? #what is the point of being an Emperor if you don't have super cool gimmick weapons?? #Supreme Leader didn't know how to use the switch mode #Labraunda perpetually stayed in axe mode #but at least none of her previous ancestors knew how to use it too #tfw you have to use nabatean magic to fill some vials and activate the switch #3 nopes #willy was so jealous his kid gets the super cool weapon and he only has a golden armor #at least he had a kickass horse #and wasn't forced to suffer the feather on his helmet like Lycaon bcs Seiros said it looked cool #and you don't tell Seiros her aesthetic sucks

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since you like rhea hc, where do you think cap got his idea about rhea cooking for wileilm in his fic?

how the crap should i know lol

In canon, there's the note about a meal served at the Emperor's coronations, but given how it includes adrestian salt Leicester herbs and Faerghus water (iirc) unless during Nemesis era there were trade routes between Enbarr and the rest of war torn Fodlan, it could only have been served after the unification (Faerghus and Leicester would be names of provinces that would later be independant?) or after all three states became something.

Granted, I also like the idea of Rhea cooking stuff - FEH said she bakes cookies ! - but more the idea of cooking misshaps with Willy, like giving him a raw carrot or a turnip and poor Willy, not wanting to make her feel bad, eating them just like that. It's only when Cichol's wife joined the gang that she told her "why don't you cook something instead of giving turnips to that poor guy ?"

After 10 years of approximatively cooked stews - Lycaon, who didn't know what was acceptable social behaviour, loudly said he didn't want to eat his veggies because they were raw and "bleh", Seiros the Warrior greatly improved her culinary skills (and made her own ketchup to "un-bleh" veggies).

Seiros the Warrior took cooking as hobby to dissociate and distract herself from the battles, war and "why the frick isn't mother talking to me I've recovered her?" - whenever she returned "able to cook" she insisted on preparing the meals for everyone (some church members sighed, but Seiros the Warrior took their sigh as a sign of relief). She ultimately managed to recreate - as far as she could remember since Noa figged away and no one was alive to share the exact recipe - a nabatean recipe from her youth and wanted to serve it to Lycaon for the 7th birthday of his reign, but then he "mysteriously died" :(

#anon #replies #fodlan nonsense #rhea stuff #as if i know what is the insipiration for every little quirk of the aeneid #willy always jumped first on zanado fruits sure they are inedible and taste like crap #but whenever he's out cold afterwards Seiros personally tends to him #so it's a win situation #let he be her son or not Lycaon called her cooking shitty #not enough sweets and too much veggies #and there are bones in the fish! He doesn't want that! #but then he died #is it wolf (fe16)'s hour?