Thoughts about Gintoki
Many things have been said about this man. This time I would like to address Gintoki's character development and the differences between the tentative ending of Be Forever Yorozuya (BFY) and the actual ending of the series.
Gintoki is quite lonely when the story begins. For 10 years he has kept his distance from everyone else, Otose being the only exception. It has been speculated that Gintoki wanted to end his life after all he had gone through, and it’s for that reason that he arrives at the graveyard, staying out in the open, with snow piling up on his body when she arrives. There he decides to try one more time.
As time goes by, after forming the new Yorozuya, Gintoki begins to open up to others a little more. He reconnects with Zura and Sakamoto and also makes many more friends. However, he still has problems, which keep coming up in the series in different ways; sometimes more comical, sometimes more serious. But it’s a fact that he deals with certain addictions and psychological issues.
One of these issues is addressed in BFY. Despite having many friends, his low self-esteem leads Gintoki to consider that he’s not really important to those around him. This coupled with him being the cause of the chaos that has befallen the world only exacerbates that feeling and his self-sacrificial tendencies.
I've seen people compare the second movie (BFY) to the third (The Final), usually leaning towards the former because it's a self-contained story, while the latter is the conclusion of a much longer arc. While I think that's part of the reason, I don't see it as the main motive. The big difference for me is how the movies approach Gintoki's character.
For starters, the vibes of both stories are very different. In BFY everything has gone downhill and for the rest of the cast this is a tragedy because it adds to the fact that Gintoki is apparently dead. In contrast, the second part of Silver Soul arc is almost the opposite. The world is thriving and Gintoki went on a trip to resolve his own thing, but the cast can't move on because he’s not with them.
While I’m glad Sorachi gave Takasugi more screen time, his story felt concluded at the end of 1st part of SS arc (as with Utsuro, who was revived only to be killed again a few chapters later). The character arc that remained unfinished was Gintoki's. By this I don't mean that by the end of the series all his problems should’ve been solved and that he should’ve become a perfect human being.
I would’ve liked to see how Gintoki deals with his issues and his PTSD, but this was ignored. Having him relive his trauma, in which he not only had to kill Shouyou again, but also Takasugi, rather than coming from a point of authentic character exploration, felt like unnecessary drama. In the end he wasn’t worse mentally (or so the story says) but he wasn’t better either. He was still the same. And for me it was sad to see that. So many chapters, so many experiences, for everything to stay the same?
The conclusion Gintoki comes to is that he's not empty, people will live in his soul, which isn't bad in itself, but the execution seemed poor to me. Will he let his friends die now because they will live in his soul? It contradicts how he has acted before. You could say it's character evolution, but to me it didn't feel consistent. Where is the line between overcoming a traumatic event and not caring?
I got hooked on Gintama mainly because of Gintoki. I wanted to see his past and more importantly his future. I wanted to see him happy in the end. However, the resolution of his character wasn’t satisfying to me. Sorachi admitted at one point that he didn't quite develop Gintoki, but it wasn't much he needed to do and, in fact, he did it before in BFY. He just needed to focus on his protagonist.
I wanted to see him smile with happiness. But at the end of his journey, he was left with only a somewhat lonely smile.
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Hi 👉👈 i just finished watching gintama recently and it becomes one of my top 3 animes of all the time. Laughed and cried a lot too 💙⭐ so im happy to find people willing to write for gintama even though the fandom isnt as active as other newer anime fandoms 💙 thank you so much ⭐. Can i request hcs/scenario for gin-san with a s/o who has never dated before? They are around gin-san age yet they have zero experience and they are so insecure about it 🥺. im not sure how their dynamic will be coz this guy here has no shame but ... I love him so much 💙⭐🤍.
-To say the truth Gintoki never had a relationship too, the maximum was meeting with a prostitute.
-So Gintoki only knows more about the physical side of a relationship.
-He will never force you to do anything, Gintoki is already blessed enough to have found someone that likes him that much, love is a word that scares him too much, he won’t throw away the bond you made so easily.
-But at times your insecurities bother him. Like what do you have to be scared of?? He is such a dumbass, you can’t do any worse.
-Obviously, he will tell you that only after teasing you ‘till you are near tears. But Gintoki will stop sooner, he hates tears on his partner’s face.
-It’s all a long process where you both have to learn which boundaries to cross and which is better not to. Relationships take respect and responsibility and we know our whiter-haired boy loves to run away from them.
-You must have a lot of perseverance to keep Gintoki with his ass there talking, real talking, about the important matters in the relationship.
-So as a first relationship the one with Gintoki won’t be easy.
-But for sure smiles will often be shared between you two.
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30 Color Challenge - Day 20: If we do have anywhere to go home to, it’d be a place where you guys are too.
I really really adore the Yorozuya+Shinsengumi relationship and how it grew through the series. I think Sorachi at one point said they have a rotten bond? Where they somehow can’t help but get involved with one another despite the friction between them. It’s really lovely to me that by the end of the series, they actively risk their lives to help one another with the Yorozuya saving the Shinsengumi in Farewell Shinsengumi and then the Shinsengumi repaying the favor in the final part of Silver Soul. So I like to think that after everything has settled down, the cherry blossom viewing party becomes an unplanned somehow-it-ends-up-happening-every-year event between the two groups
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