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hannieehaee · 6 months

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Idk if this is appropriate or not (feel free if this is something you don't want to answer) but as a casual kpop stan who really only stans seventeen and listens to other kpop artists on a somewhat frequent basis I just feel as though seventeen is reaching their peak in a way that's far from satisfying. Like idk if this makes sense but to me it seems as tho the members are struggling to keep out of "scandals" with mingyu's incident last year, minghao/seoksoon being labeled as fat phobic earlier this year over out of context clips and now with Joshua (he's not even close to being my favorite member but these rumors and pregnancy stories are honestly making me so upset rn) ...as a fan who feels a genuine attachment to these people it's hard for me to be happy because while Ik the boys deserve every good thing coming their way fame comes with a price and that price is what I'm worried about. Like I get that Pledis isn't SM and seventeen definitely see themselves as family unlike NCT who view themselves more as colleagues I'm so scared that Joshua will eventually leave like Lucas or heaven forbid anything more drastic happens. It's just that I always see these "we could never save them" posts but then the same people who post them also comment the worst things forgetting that idols are humans too. I'm super sorry for the long ask but I just read that jeonghan got hurt and that made me think of the rest of the members and everything else they've been going thru. I'm not even the type of person to get attached to people I barely know but with Seventeen it's like I'm really and honestly praying for their success because they seem that THAT genuine group of people who are just trying their best. Sorry for the rambling

i get what ur saying. dont worry abt sending a long ask! ur welcome to rant abt svt in my inbox whenever! honestly i havent stanned for too long so idk how things were before this past year but i do worry for them lately :/ theyre getting injured too often and they get no rest. i dont like how pledis/hybe are managing them at all. theyve been constantly touring japan very repeatedly for seemingly no good reason at all which has obviously tired them out (theyve been dropping like flies, LITERALLY). pledis had the opportunity to promote them in ways that didnt involve constant performances but have just chosen not to for some reason. i really hope they get to rest soon (unlikely tho since theyre likely gonna have a world tour next year).

about the joshua thing. i feel sosososo bad for him. idk and idc if hes really dating that girl honestly. i do feel like it was kinda dumb of her to consistently post herself in the same places/clothes as him if they really wanted to keep it a secret BUT neither of them deserved the hate/scrutiny they got for it. not even with the pregnancy thingy on her stories. i don't think joshua and lucas' situations are comparable whatsoever since joshua has not done anything wrong unlike lucas. im hoping pledis somehow protects him better but thats unlikely. i dont think any member of svt will ever leave bc as u said, theyre family. cant rlly compare to nct tho lol bc i only stan svt so idk any other groups' dynamics like that. i do get what ur saying tho i have friends who stan nct and svt and theyve said to me that they do see a drastic difference in dynamics between the two groups but thats neither here nor there.

lastly, i have the best hopes for svt. they keep saying theyll only go up from here and i believe that. idk how that will play out with military service in consideration or with what seems to be chronic incidents that keep happening to them (gyu, cheol, and han in the past few months) but i trust and hope they'll be okay. they have a very established fanbase and a rlly good support group with one another so i only see good things for them in the future. hope they get at least a month off soon though.

#hope i didnt sound like im coming at u anon i agree with most of the things u said 😭#and i totally underatand ur worries theyre very valid! things have been very hectic in caratland for a while now #hope theyll all be ok #and also hoping han has a speedy recovery poor guy shouldntve been performing on a bad ankle this whole time :(

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sanstropfremir · 2 years

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My expectations for MAMA stages are essentially nonexistent because I’ve learned my lesson from previous years, but I am holding out some hope that Forestella, Hyolyn, and Monika can save the day at least. And maybe KARA but it’s been too long to know exactly what we’re getting there, so they’re more of a wild card. But otherwise anything quality from the other groups will be a bonus, since they’re almost all young groups or mnet projects or hybe. (And no sm groups again??? A travesty). Just please, no more lore at the expense of actual performance 😭

we're not holding out a lot of hope for mama rn. mnet gets one (1) additional point in advance from me for having a monika and lim young woong collab stage bc i think that's going to be interesting, but it's pretty much those three/four that are holding up my wilting expectations. i think the kara stage is more likely to be good than not, simply on nostalgia factor alone, but even if logisically the performance is somehow bad it's still likely to be fun to watch. but yes, anything else that's good is gonna be a bonus. it is really strange that sm has pulled all their artists from awards show performances this seaon, since they take up a big presence in the industry and boy the lineups are feeling pretty empty without them. that winter concert/gala event or whatever that thing is they're planning better be fucking massive.

#tbh i think tempest and dkz will have good performances even though theyre likely to not be scaled properly #bc they're both groups of good performers even though their companies are small (miniscule in dkz's case)#and may not be able to handle the stage size #although tempest is probably gonna be fine yuehua has money #i'm just proud dkz is even performing at all like talk about a kpop miracle #i looked at the noms again while looking for the performance lineup and i had forgotten just how fucking awful those noms are #god theyre so bad #mama 2022 #awards shows 2022 #text #answers

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jentlemahae · 1 month

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her ways of attempting to gain public opinion:

Making bang pd look like a bad guy. Not to say that he is GREAT or whatever (I mean… he’s a money hungry businessman) but he was COMPLIMENTING AESPA not INSULTING THEM. Notice how this is literally the only thing she has on him. Him asking her if she’s good enough to make a top gg. She emphasised that and now people are focusing on Bang instead of the crimes that she didn’t address

She went to a shaman to try and make BTS go away. BTS haters love this one lollllll

Showcased her relationship with the newjeans members as something to be considered “beautiful” when in reality it’s grooming. Sobbing crying about how much your “babies” need you and won’t survive without you is disgusting. And NJs fans defending her have fallen for her manipulation.

Infantilised herself. “I’m just an artist and a woman! I don’t know how to run a company!” YOU ASKED FOR A SEPERATE LABEL TO BE MADE FOR YOU. YOU HAVE BILLIONS OF FUNDING. YOU ARE 45.

Hated on LSF. They’re already suffering a hate train rn. It’s just gonna get worse.

that ridiculous outfit and all the tears. All the dramatics.

I don’t like him much, but I don’t think people understand just how much freedom Bang PD gave her. Korea works on hierarchy levels. For her to have the TOP FLOOR OF THE BUILDING ABOVE BTS IS CRAZY. FOR HER TO HAVE BILLIONS OF FUNDING AT HER DISPOSAL IS CRAZY. FOR HER TO JUST TAKE SOURCE MUSIC TRAINEES IS CRAZY.

His mistake was giving her TOO MUCH freedom because she ended up feeling like she herself was the big boss when in reality… she’s an employee. At the end of the day, what Chairman Bang says goes. And he wanted lesserafim to debut first (because they had pre debut popularity from IZONE).

Remember… she is a SNAKE AND A LIAR. I don’t like Bang PD but I’m really hoping for the lesser of 2 evils to win here because not only is she a mentally unstable boss, but she’s a PDO!!!!

i cannot stand bang pd, like my dislike for that man goes back to my army days, it runs DEEP! but i can set that aside for now because she is way worse and way more dangerous, so we can get rid of her now and circle back to him later. plus bang pd seems to be in the right here — all stories have two sides so im sure hybe did something wrong too, but it’s crumbs compared to what she’s done. and they have provided evidence to back their accusations, while all she’s done has been sobbing on camera and attacking others

they really have given her way too much power — sm made her stay in the company’s shadow so they kept an eye on her but hybe gave her a whole company for herself and i think that gave her too much power and control

#anonymous #sophie ask

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aohisworld · 1 month

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as much as im annoyed by the potential implications of the mhj/hybe drama i do feel like theres way too much speculation rn ... rlly doesn't sit so well with me that everyone is bashing on mhj alone (im not supporting her either though) and not bang sihyuk too. some hybe stans rlly js worship the guy and idk why . its not like he's innocent too. like those texts from him are so annoying too. abt if she's satisfied that nwjns is so popular and also abt trying to rival aespa / bp alone ...

hybe has sm power and r known for their mediaplay so i rlly do wish people would keep that in mind instead of doing their own speculation to bash on mhj . we don't know fs if she's the reason behind seunghan, youngseo, etc .... it seems so forced that everyone just collectively is making stuff up on their own theories and pissing on her. like im all for it when everything's done with but it's giving misogyny to me ughhh idk how to explain it eitherr without sounding like a mhj stan I PROMISE IM NOT TAKING HER SIDE T_T i just cant help but feel like poeple find it easier to hate and bash on women sometimes. even me scrolling x nowadays feels so annoying. literally feel so bad for illit and nwjns rn.

personally i was a teeny annoyed that illit had a similar image to nwjns w their nostalgia/coquettecore (also though just seems like cute/youthful concept is making a cb in general in kpop) but only because their songs on super real me were the exact type of songs i liked most from nwjns (super shy, hurt etc. the softer less peppy songs compared to hybe boy) so it bothered me that there was an implication that nwjns might be forced to distance itself to a more differing concept to keep some contrast btwn the two ... but ik that's not illit's fault at all (literally love the girls sm im a runext fan ^^) i feel like i can understand the upset that illit was getting a similar concept when every other grp before illit in hybe had more defined concepts seperating each other. but once again that's all hybe's doing ...... seeing the choreographers supporting mhj too makes it seem like not even the nwjns team or even all the staff were on board with the references in the choreo either...

anyways i do hope this controversy doesnt impede on either grps promos :( and i rlly hope everything gets sorted out... im srsly hoping this doesnt turn into a 5050 situtation again but with nwjns i was so upset when that happened . was curious on what your thoughts were or if u were keeping up with everything?

I feel like you’re right in some cases, like with the hybe groups being forced to suffer the consequences of bang sihyuk and mhj, especially newjeans who were doing good keeping quiet and getting ready for their comeback.

In my opinion, it’s not that bang sihyuk wasn’t bad either, it’s just that mhj also leaked a bunch of health info and other info behind other artists, gave them their numbers, family contacts, etc.

It’s more of a case that, MHJ did something extreme, I’m more worried about the hybe groups more than the companies because let’s be honest, it’s always going to be corrupt and drama will be inevitable.

She willingly put the well-being and personal information of idols to sell to other profits and for what? If I’m being honest misogyny doesn’t really play much. MHJ has just done too much, not to bang sihyuk but to the groups in general.

even if it was speculation, they were big assumptions to begin with, especially pertaining to the hate trains and whatnot to other groups. To make accusations that big, doesn’t come from speculation.

It makes me feel weird knowing mhj uses nwjeans as a shield and to bring in illit when all they’ve done was debut.

Bang sihyuk has probably done some things (im not well sure because I don’t keep up with the drama besides this, I can’t really ignore this because it’s everywhere, even on tumblr.)

I understand that the concept with illit and newjeans are basically the spark to the dynamite, and honestly I would’ve understood mhj’s side, if not for all of the big accusations that just doesn’t sprout from nowhere.

But in all honesty, nonnie? I’d rather focus on the idols, newjeans will be controversial because of this no matter what, and illit will probably get hate for “copying” newjeans. I think they deserve our support rather than watching their companies wondering what’ll happen like a hawk.

I’d rather as fans, support our groups because they are caught up in all of that drama, I believe that it’s just easier this way rather than getting caught up and wondering who’s side people are on, because for me, I’m on the side of idols, who’ll probably be affected by the media and drama there.

thanks for sharing your thoughts with me nonnie, I understand where you’re coming from, but it’s a big thing to not talk about drama on my blog because I don’t want to have to complicate things here and drown out Aohi at all. (She’s the blog after all!)

If you want to talk more generally, @sunsmintie is open for you to chat into!

#˚₊‧꒰ა ☆ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ it’s mintie!#≡; ꒰ °aohi’s question board! ꒱

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