#i don’t like seeing extremely inaccurate takes of Aang either bc i like him

[tea-and-la]

i *love* that some people’s idea of atla being adding onto Netflix being a ‘mistake’ is bc of people “bashing” (in parenthesis bc some critiques do not equal bashing and most of the time, those critiques are of Bryke) aang.

instead of, you know, the fact that countless people in fandom have made an agenda of invalidating people’s LGBTQ+ identities j bc they don’t ship a certain ship, sending death and r*** threats to real human people, called bipoc “animals and implied that they were mentally ill. not to mention the groupchat of people on Twitter who banded together to make a “hit list” of zks to stalk and subsequently had plans to doxx and reveal their personal information.

and i’m not saying that this situation is unique to zks because I’ve heard that Zukkas also were unfortunately subjected to death threats, and hate etc. no one deserves that. and imo, THAT’S why putting atla on Netflix was a mistake. Bc some weirdos can’t handle that someone else likes a ship that’s different from theirs so they resort to violence. It’s never that serious.

#atla #atla fandom crit #what would your fave characters think of your actions towards other people? #i don’t like seeing extremely inaccurate takes of Aang either bc i like him #but when someone is just pointing out why they think a certain ship is incompatible without being extreme about it leave them alone #and at the end of the day these are CHARACTERS #critiques of them will NEVER hold the same weight as the people who think it’s ok to violent hate any fanbase #whether it’s Zutara or zukka #theres no reason to attack real people #that’s actually the reason ATLA fandom got bad #and so many people had to leave bc of their mental health and/or for their safety #we gotta start prioritizing being kind to real people #regardless of if they like our ship #it’s human decency not to call someone the r slur over a ship #or to imply that they’re faking their LGBTQ+ identity so they don’t seem het #there needs to be more inter fanbase kindness #literally why do some of the ppl in this fandom care enough to be so violent? #I personally don’t care if ppl like my ships but I care when people make whole assumptions about entire fanbases #i think ppl should ship what makes them happy #within reason ofc

[comradekatara]

heyy, I'm not sure if you've covered this already but I'd like to know why you think the Canon couples are misogynistic?

yeah I mean when u say “misogynistic” i guess more specifically id define it as “predicated on age-old romantic tropes rooted in patriarchal love narratives.” for example, im not a fan of the way katara is framed whenever the camera suddenly wants to emphasize that aang is attracted to her (specifically referring to the fully-body pan-up [insert puke emoji here], but also the way such an agentic, heroic main character is occasionally reduced to a Love Object for the sake of the romantic plotline between them). and to be clear, im also not one of those idiots who thinks that aang is a misogynist who feels a sense of ownership or entitlement towards katara. a lot of arguments against the relationship between aang & katara are overly extreme and thus inaccurate, and while im not exactly a fan of the way their (romantic) relationship is presented in the show, I do think that they clearly have reciprocated crushes on each other and love each other deeply, even if I don’t necessarily believe that they’d work in a committed monogamous relationship their entire lives since middle school (I mean, have you met katara???) – like, the thematic significance of their relationship is very beautiful, and there's clearly a deep love there, but i just think the execution left a lot to be desired, especially because they are both babies, so the romance between them always felt especially forced for me. whatevs tho

as for mai & zuko, I mainly take issue with the final scene; I otherwise like the way their relationship is portrayed, even if their dysfunction makes me cringe—in fact, because their dysfunction makes me cringe. it’s the final framing of theirs as a “good relationship” that utterly baffles me. at no point does zuko show the same dedication to mai that mai shows to zuko. which is understandable, seeing as he has a lot going on, and to him, she represents yet another decoration of the fire nation rather than a fully-realized human being in her own right. which, narratively speaking, is a coherent decision, up until the point I’m expected to buy that either of them would be truly happy with each other, when a) zuko has done nothing to earn mai’s trust, affection, and devotion (other than rising to power) and b) when zuko doesn’t really seem to see mai as a whole person?? just an L for women and gays everywhere 😔

And I'm not sure if you know but Bryke do later admit that the kiss at the end was kind of forced which is why I think they specifically chose to end lok with no kiss. They said they were hoping to develop korrasami like a Miyazaki like romance (still think they could have done better job at that) opting for no big dramatic displays of romantic affection.

okay that’s kind of funny bc I agree that neither atla nor lok should’ve ended with a kiss, but the fact that it was lok specifically to not end with a kiss was clearly just due to the homophobic network constraints restricting what they could depict overtly between two women. but yeah I agree that korrasami read as more authentic and genuine than most other atla romances, save perhaps with the exception of sokka & suki, which I enjoy specifically because it’s rarely ever foregrounded, they’re simply two people who like and understand each other, which feels more true to life. as I sort of alluded to above, I prefer romance narratives that treat (positive) relationships as a healthy, beneficial experience, rather than some grand, significant, even cosmic event. romance is not necessarily more important than true friendship or familial bonds, and to treat it as such reinforces harmful notions that can and do damage the expectations and lives of women (watch crazy ex girlfriend all seasons now on netflix). with certain exceptions, wherein romantic love is transformative specifically because it is subverting dominant cultural norms (gay ppl, etc), I much prefer the miyazaki approach :)

#ayo-com #asks #hot takes #aang&katara #mai&zuko #im forever team justice4mai #hotgirls4mai #mai deserved better #mai deserved ty lee #etc etc #love & light <33 #also i do want to make it clear that the love between katara and aang absolutely is subversive – the romance between them is not. thank u