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skitskatdacat63 · 7 months
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I also think about the Roman Empire every day 🤭
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toxicsweetness · 3 years
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone do this, so maybe something where y/n has been slowly learning about Moonjo and can finally read him? Or like, maybe y/n learns about his past and killing his parents (going off the original script 🤣) I'm sure it doesn't end pleasantly, but I'd love to get your thoughts on it!
I did my best! 🖤 Since you mentioned it not ending pleasantly, I went with a situation where Moonjo definitely did not trust y/n enough to have that information lol also i have no idea where y/n would get that information without moonjo giving it, so ms. eom it is.. rip moonjo's not gonna be happy about that (Do people keep asking about Moonjo stuff just bcs he's popular lol.. my characterization of him cannot be that good lol.)
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Trigger warnings: choking, blood, implied death
You're not totally sure what you're expecting after bringing his past up to him, but he's just looking at you now. Silently. You get the feeling you're being evaluated.
You get the feeling you're failing.
"Is that what you heard?" It's a carefully spoken question, specifically phrased and slowly said - you recognize it now for what it is. A question to dig for what you know without actually confirming or denying your earlier suspicions. The slowness belies the fact that he is thinking rapidly, analyzing, going through as many different scenarios as he can think of for this conversation and making strategies for each one, and contingency plans for the strategies.
He's always been so smart, so adaptable.
So dangerous.
"Yes. Ms. Eom mentioned it.." You can tell he's getting annoyed at your prolonged silence - it's not outwardly, but you've been around him long enough to read some of his different behaviors. Contrary to belief, he wasn't emotionless, he was just insanely good at keeping how he felt under lock and key. (Sincerity was weakness, after all, and with this last bit of his history to fit into your puzzle that is Seo Moonjo, you can see why he would think that way.)
"Is that so." Another question, rhetorical this time, but still not agreeing to anything. Still wary of opening up even after the information has been forcibly brought to light. It's staggering to realize this and think back on all the similar conversations you've had with him, all the times he's gently deflected but managed to draw out as much info from you as he wanted.
He takes a step forward and for the first time ever you want to recoil away from him, but he's already in front of you, fingers harsh on your jaw, tilting your head to look at him. Despite the tight grip there's a gentleness to it all. You have a sinking feeling that it doesn't matter.
His eyes are close to yours, impossibly dark and still just as beautiful as the first time you met him. You don't think telling him now would get the same reaction it would have ten minutes ago, before you brought any of this up.
"My dear -" His voice is carefully controlled, but you can read him now and he knows that, cuts his sentence off mid-word. His hand slides lower, wraps around your throat - you automatically grab his arm, nails digging in out of panic. He doesn't flinch, even as you feel blood on your fingertips, sticky and staining his skin. You wished you hadn't done this, hadn't tried to understand him, hadn't pried until you could, because it's all accumulated into this one moment.
This one moment where you can see through him with perfect clarity. The fact that you can see hints of genuine regret and sorrow in his gaze do nothing to comfort you, because they are completely drowned out by the darkness that saw you now as a threat. Your vision is going fuzzy and black and you dig your nails in as hard as you can. His brow furrows, but with everything getting hazy you can't tell now if it's from pain or annoyance or something else.
"My dear, you've always been too smart for your own good."
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lizacstuff · 3 years
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SCK Season 2 episode 1 Fragman 1 asks!
That fragman was really goooood and it appears those of you in my inbox thought so too...
(asks under the cut)
Anonymous asked: that fragman... it had EVERYTHING i was hoping for for the start of this plot. sure, i had to adjust my expectations after the first teaser came out and knowing the plot and it was knowing we could potentially get these kinda scenes with their daughter i was really excited about, it already looks SO good.. it almost feels like there's new life in the show which i guess is what a new season is about. idk if you watched the last live but they mention 11-13 eps and i think it'll be perfect for this
I got chills the first time I watched the fragman. Just amazing.  It’s a really good thing that they released the teaser and then the summary so we could all, as you say, adjust expectations. If this fragman was the first we were hearing about the set up for this season then we would have all been in shock like we were after the teaser.  However, we’ve had time to come to terms with the story and now we get to see how they are going to execute it... and the verdict is... it looks like it’s going to be amazing!
It definitely feels like new life to the show. Hopefully, Ayse is re-energized after her long break and getting to take back control of her creation and we’re in for quite a ride. 
I just adored the few seconds we got of Serkan and his daughter.  That’s already an amazing dynamic and we’ve barely seen it. Obviously, there will be quite a bit of hilarity there, but it’s also going to be quite the emotional ride to watch him open his heart to his daughter and become her dad... and then, you know, open his heart to her mom and eventually become her husband. 
11-13 episodes does seem the exact right length for this story.  I hope everyone who is still upset and angry about the time jump (I get it, it was a tragic curve ball) will find a way to let that go and enjoy this show while we have it. This show is special, this cast is special, Hande and Kerem are special, and it’s so much more fun to enjoy it as it comes to an end. Being in that negative headspace isn’t the best way to celebrate the last three months of this show, and fandom and all the hoopla surrounding it and you will probably regret it when it’s over if you don’t make the most of it. Anon and I will be enjoying it the best we can, right!?
Anonymous asked: it's probably too early to tell, but i'm getting some parent trap rom-com vibes from that first fragman. their daughter definitely has some spunk, i mean this is eda's daughter of course, and i can totally see her scheming to reunite her parents after she finds out that serkan is her father.
Ha! Yes, I think is a given. She’s probably going to be working hard and I’m sure we’re in for many comic scenes and the resultant sexual tension of Eda and Serkan being thrown together constantly. Now who do we think her accomplices will be?  Melo? Seyfi? Everyone but the new people and Ayfer?  That was the only part of the fragman that made me groan, Ayfer was on screen 2 seconds and it already looks like she’s going to be a pain-in-the-ass.  Back to Ayse’s Ayfer I guess, she’s one character who was much less insufferable under the other writers. 
Anyway, I want BabyGirl to insist on all sorts of outings together as a family, trips, etc, and then make herself scarce. Can you imagine? And hey if she’s able to manipulate them into living together, all the better!
Anonymous asked: OK that fragman was probably the best thing they could've shown first! Even the most cynical of cynics cannot resist the visual of Serkan + little girl. She's adorable!
SOOOO CUTE.  I mean, come on! Where did they find this child? She’s perfect. She absolutely is 100% believable as their child. That casting department is on fire.  It’s interesting there were reports from set this week that Maya struggled with her scenes, because from what we say she NAILED them. She must have settled down (if the reports were even true in the first place, so many nonsense rumors in this fandom).
I’m usually not that excited for kids on screen, but these Baba/Kiz scenes and family scenes are going to be amazing. I’m actually looking forward to scenes with a child. 
Anonymous asked: Any guesses on the story behind Edser’s daughter’s scarf? And thoughts on the name Kiraz? Is it her real name or does Serkan just call her that bc he doesn’t know her name and sees the cherries on her scarf?? Or is the whole fandom a circus and her name doesn't relate to cherries at all?
I think my best guess is that she won’t tell Serkan her name (like her mama) and Serkan sees her scarf or she leaves her scarf so he calls her Kiraz, and that will stick as a nickname.  That would also be a parallel to Serkan calling Eda a fruit nick name when he didn’t know hers. 
Perhaps it’s her real name, it just doesn’t feel like something Eda would name her, but I honestly don’t know what names are popular in Turkey, and if that’s an actual name people use or not. 
However, I will laugh my ass off if her name has nothing to do with cherries, because some people on other platforms really made asses of themselves getting upset when it was first rumored. I mean... getting key-smashing angry about a fictional child’s name? That’s when you know that your negativity over the season set up has become irrational.
Anonymous asked: Any rough idea on the timeline for 2x01 based on the fragman?
This is such a great question, and I really have no idea. I can’t even decide what comes first, Serkan talking to her on the beach (I don’t like you Serkan Bolat, The feeling is mutual) or when he brings her home.  I could see it either way. 
I’m hopeful that Serkan and Eda meeting and coming face to face isn’t the end of the episode.  That just doesn’t make sense to me. it’s obvious from the fragman that they want Serkan and BabyGirl to meet and interact before either of them is aware of their connection, so no Eda present there.  But with the way they’re setting up this season, they are obviously hoping to bring viewers back, and potentially even attract new viewers, and the draw for this show is having Hande and Kerem on screen together.  Having a whole episode, the one where they hope to catch new people, where they don’t see each other to the end, wouldn’t be putting their best foot forward in my opinion.  So I’m hopefully that happens at least half way or three quarters of the way through the episode so we get to see a bit of that interaction between them. 
I suppose they might wait to the end for them to meet, but fulfill the need to have Edser on screen through flashbacks. That’s possible. It will be interesting to see, maybe the second fragman will give us more hints!
Anonymous asked: I think the first ep cliffhanger is def gonna be serkan realizing that maya is edas kid
Obviously it could be. We’ll see. I was sort of hoping for the cliffhanger to be him realizing that she’s his kid...
I really don’t want them to draw that out, Eda has kept the child secret for too long as it is, now that they’re face to face it’s time to come clean. No lying. 
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softshelltaakos · 5 years
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what’s up everybody! it’s time for part 2 of my taz graphic novel review.
part one covered (most of) my beef with the writing and storytelling choices. this part is gonna cover character designs!!! you should know going into this that my opinions are not positive. this post is also a lot less analytical in tone than part 1, because art is not my forte.
disclaimer: i love the mcelroys. i truly do. taz has gotten me through some very difficult stuff and i have a tattoo. all this to say i’m not doing this because i hate them or because i like hating things. if you feel the need to message me about how i am overreacting, specifically to green taako, or about how i should just calm down and ignore it, or about how it’s sad that i’m getting so worked up instead of just enjoying the show, i’ve heard it and i don’t care. you will not be taken seriously. save yourself the energy.
there are spoilers for the graphic novel under the cut.
alright. i��m getting the elephant in the room out of the way first because it’s the most important thing to address, and once it’s out of my system i’ll feel better goofing on the rest of the designs. as i mentioned in the disclaimer: Green Taako Is Bad.
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[ID: a panel focusing on taako. he’s skinny and minty green with chin-length light blonde hair and a big, pointy nose.]
now, a lot of people have made posts about this before, and i’m not saying anything new about it by any means. i’m also not the most equipped person to talk about why green taako is bad, because i’m a white gentile (i’ve heard conflicting opinions on whether or not green taako is antisemitic, but it feels remiss not to mention that there’s been discussion) and therefore not part of any groups affected by this whole debacle, but in short: when pressed for more diversity, specifically in taako’s case as a pretty large chunk of his arc involves literally inventing a mexican cultural food (fun note: that’s never mentioned in this book,) carey pietsch decided he should be green and the mcelroys were down with it. this is not an issue that cropped up when this design was released; it was something that there was already a ton of discourse surrounding, and it should never have gotten concepts drawn, let alone made it to publish.
this article by natt cuesta has been linked before on the subject, and i think it’s a good, concise explanation of why green taako is bad as well as why aracial characters in general are bad. this is a racist design.
now that we’ve gotten those ethical ramifications out of the way... i’m sorry, but it’s an ugly design, lmao. he looks like a palette-swapped version of pearl from steven universe with less character. the ONLY thing about this design that i like is the prominent lower lashes, if only because they’re the only thing that keeps him from looking entirely generic. because, like, y’all, when has anything about taako been generic?
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[ID: a panel focusing on magnus. he’s a muscular fair-skinned man with auburn hair, a bushy beard, and a scar over his left eye.]
generic is a word that’s going to come up a lot over the course of this review, because i genuinely can’t think of a more apt descriptor for pietsch’s designs. it feels like she went with the lowest common denominator of every character’s design, a synthesis of all of the most popular (and most boring) ones, except in instances where that would lend any personality to a character’s design. magnus fits what brief description we’re given in the podcast: auburn hair. beard. big. and i guess that’s all you need?
i understand that by appealing to the most common and basic designs for these characters you’re inviting a lot less ire than you might by going with something more individual, so i get the motivation behind it -- or i would, if her designs hadn’t always been about this dull. but it’s bizarre to me that in a story as unique as the balance campaign, we ended up with the most basic ass Fantasy Hero lookin’ dude in the world as one of our protagonists.
i just really don’t have a lot to say about this. i’m just bored by it.
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[ID: a panel of merle. he has medium-dark skin with a smooth white bun and beard.]
merle is simultaneously the design i like most out of the boys and the one that throws me the most, because i feel like he’s the most out on a limb one. which... oof. most merle designs i see give him a floral motif (i guess he has a few petals in his hair, maybe?) and big coke-bottle glasses, and i miss those things with this design, but at least it doesn’t totally feel like pietsch threw every merle she could get her hands on into a blender and poured it out on a page, although honestly, that might have been more satisfying. people do some really fun shit with their merle designs, but again, he’s. generic.
as the cuesta article mentions, with how much of an issue it was to get any of the boys to be poc in the first place and in conjunction with minty up there, this design also feels like tokenism -- an appeasement rather than an honest attempt at diversity or god forbid because the artist actually headcanons merle as a person of color. personally, i wish that she’d gone a step beyond re-coloring his skin and idk given him a natural hairstyle or something. he still feels very much like a recolor to me rather than a character who was designed as a person of color from the beginning.
i feel like he looks more like a cleric than he looks like a merle, which i feel like is pretty contradictory to who merle is.
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[ID: a cutaway showing griffin, a white man with brown hair and glasses wearing a collared shirt.]
i’ve said before that it feels a little odd to talk about her design of a real person, so i’ll keep this brief, but... you know how every drawing of a basic white dude looks a little bit like griffin mcelroy? you know how that one arthur character looks a little bit like griffin mcelroy? you know how everyone is constantly messaging mysillycomics about how her avatar looks like griffin mcelroy?
how did carey pietsch manage to actively attempt to draw griffin mcelroy and miss the mark? it boggles the mind. he doesn’t not look like griffin, i guess, but he doesn’t look like griffin, either. i don’t know, man
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[ID: a generic gerblin. he has yellowy-green skin, slight tusks or fangs, and weird, nubby little horn-type things.]
i hate these gerblins. they are ugly. next
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[ID: two images of klaarg/g’nash. he’s a bugbear with brown fur and yellow eyes as well as a mouth full of pointy teeth. in the first image he looks pissed off; in the second he’s starry-eyed and delighted.]
klaarg is probably my favorite design in the book, and that’s just because he looks like a cute dog for most of the time he’s on the page. he’s fluffy and i love klaarg anyway, so like. did not take a lot to reach this mark. especially considering how i feel about most of the other designs lmfao
i do definitely think he keeps up the trend of looking generic, though.
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[ID: an image of barry bluejeans. he looks like tom arnold, kind of; he’s square-jawed and white with thick-rimmed glasses. he also has a light brown mullet.]
i hate this. i hate the mullet. i’m sorry, y’all, i really, truly, cannot stand the mullet. i don’t feel like barry has mullet energy. i feel like it’s too powerful a move for him. it wouldn’t be a good move, mind you, but it would be a big one. i don’t know y’all it’s just bad
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[ID: an image of killian. she’s a green-skinned orc woman with prominent eyelashes, eyebrows, and tusks, and straight brown hair.]
i can’t have been the only one who was hoping for a badass, visibly muscular, maybe even butch killian design, right? that wasn’t just me being a big old lesbian, that’s a pretty common theme of killian designs? i guess kudos for going out on a limb again, but then, like, take the kudos back for going out on the most boring limb possible again. i could hang with the face if her hair wasn’t so boring, but it’s... it’s so boring
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[ID: an image of magic brian. he’s a drow with long white hair and an oblong face and oddly shaped nose.]
for how many of her designs are syntheses of popular ones, i..... don’t understand how this happened. i don’t understand how whimiscal and flamboyant magic brian who’s often drawn as taako-but-a-goth-dark-elf ended up looking like this. he looks like he used to play football and got his nose busted up and peaked in fantasy high school. he looks like the first quarter of a monster factory video where the thing’s just ugly but doesn’t have a personality or any endearing traits yet. he didn’t have to be the goth twink we all know he is but what.......... is this
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[ID: an image of gundren rockseeker/bogard. he’s a light-skinned dwarf with dark long hair and a matching beard.]
..........listen i know they’re cousins and distant cousins at that but all of merle’s cousins are light-skinned and, like, not to say that that can’t happen but having them be anywhere near merle’s skin tone would’ve been such an easy way to help bolster the obviously inaccurate idea that this is a work concerned with diverse character designs, or rather to help ppl claim it was being bolstered, and yet
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[ID: avi, a fair-skinned man with long dark hair kept up in a ponytail and slight scruff on his face.]
i feel like maybe avi is intended to be east asian so i think at this point that brings the count up to a whole two characters of color. we’re almost done with the book. cool. he’s cute, i guess, but guess what word i’m about to say again (it’s generic)
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[ID: a panel of several unnamed cameo characters. from right to left: carey fangbattle, a light blue dragonborn; brad bradson, a green orc man with a long brown ponytail; and presumably lucas miller, a tan human with glasses and dark hair.]
ok. deep breaths.
first off, there’s another panel w these three as well as boyland, who looks fine, but i didn’t grab that one bc it’s harder to make out detail. carey is cute. brad is fine.
i assume the third guy is lucas miller because i’m not entirely sure who else he would be, and... oof! as you may know i can’t stand lucas miller, which has nothing to do with his necromancy or nerdiness and everything to do with the various human rights violations he commits in the small time he’s got focus as well as the fact that he’s got a theoretical redemption arc that’s not actually an arc so much as us being told he’s better now. lucas is an entitled jackass who repeatedly uses other people’s bodies and minds without their consent, from the obvious offense of using the bugbears as brainwashed chore-doers (read: slaves) to the less-oft discussed dragging of noelle and others out of the astral plane into robot bodies, again to do his chores for him. because of this, it has always sat very uncomfortably with me when people make lucas a poc, because everything about him screams Shitty White Nerd Boy to me. it sits extra uncomfortably coming from carey pietsch, given how white all of her other designs are.
it’s a little hard to tell because i took all these pics with my phone camera in my room’s lighting so they’re not super high fidelity or anything, but pietsch’s lucas is noticeably darker than any other character we’ve seen so far save merle. maybe he’s just a white guy with a tan, but all the same, it strikes me as incredibly skeevy to have one of so few characters of color be this fucking guy.
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[ID: johann, a black man with an oblong face and textured dark hair.]
johann’s design is fine, although this is a similar face shape to that brian from earlier and i just. i don’t. understand it. it’s not especially interesting, but hey, at least he’s not another generic white guy.
that being said, as i mentioned in part 1 of this review, johann’s role is severely cut in this -- he’s reduced to three panels, when in the show itself he’s the one who escorts the boys to the voidfish’s chamber and inoculates them. as i mentioned in that post i understand that they shifted it some to give lucretia a more prominent entrance, but as i also mentioned in that post, they should have compensated for that. three panels.
johann is not a character with a great deal of screentime as it is, but he’s a character with a major impact. he is the reason story and song happens. his song serves as a direct foil to john’s nihilistic conversion of his own home plane into the hunger. the fact that he’s been reduced to three panels with little to no characterization at this point, especially in conjunction with the fact that he’s one of very few poc, makes me really, really uncomfortable. avi is in more panels in this book than johann is, and while i love avi and as i said i am parsing him as an asian dude, he’s also still light-skinned enough and the style is nondescript enough that there are definitely people who will parse him as white, and also, avi’s role in the story is not as big as johann’s.
it doesn’t sit right with me.
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[ID: an image of davenport, a fair-skinned man with a big red mustache and slicked back red hair.]
ginger davenport with a big mustache. groundbreaking.
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[ID: an image of lucretia, a slender black woman with short white hair dressed in blue layers.]
and finally, lucretia. now, i’m biased, and it’s hard for me to see a lucretia design i don’t like. i also think that this is, compared to a lot of the others at least, one of the more interesting designs in the book, at least as far as her clothes go. it’s not a long robe that would be hard to move in, and i appreciate that -- it strikes me as a pretty practical outfit while also being ornamental and wizard-y. and she’s pretty, and she’s not whitewashed, and that’s all great. i like her earrings.
all that being said, i feel like it’s not enough. luc’s hair continues a theme with merle’s and johann’s (as well as the preview we’ve seen of angus,) which is that it strikes me as very low-effort on pietsch’s part. it’s short and it’s definitely not straight, but it doesn’t feel to me like it had as much thought put into it as, say, minty green taako’s hair. we could’ve had a lucretia with a big beautiful afro, or long box braids, or so many other natural hairstyles; we got this. it’s not bad, but i do think it’s disappointing. without going looking for it and without being a person who reads a great deal about character design, i’ve seen a fair amount of discussion from black women (artists, writers, and none of the above) about the portrayal of black women as it pertains to their hair. they’re never designed to be as feminine as their white counterparts. their hair is never treated with the same amount of detail or respect as their white counterparts. it’s short, maybe curly if you’re lucky.
i’m gonna circle back quickly to killian’s hair. it’s long and smooth and kept down, despite the fact that killian is an action-oriented women and might not want it to be in her face all the time -- it could have at least been braided or in a bun. it could’ve been short! and that would’ve made sense. and i don’t mean to say that lucretia couldn’t have short hair, but she’s a very elegant woman whose dress is described as intricate. she wears business regalia. she could have any number of hairstyles, from something elaborate to something simple but more out-of-the-box than this, but she doesn’t. i found this on a quick hunt through my ref tag -- it’s a tutorial for drawing black folks with just a small selection of interesting things you can do with afrotextured hair. these resources aren’t hard to find! and i’m doing this for fun -- carey pietsch is a professional artist who was paid for these designs. if she’d put in more than the bare minimum effort, we could’ve had some really interesting shit going on, but she didn’t.
and that’s the core of the issue here. i truly do not feel like pietsch put the same amount of care into the designs for the few characters of color we see as she did into the white ones, and that’s upsetting and emblematic of a larger problem in the work: neither pietsch nor the mcelroys put in very much care at all for the fans of color who spoke up and asked for representation.i know i said i was getting taako out of the way first so the majority of the post could be goof-heavy, but goddamn, y’all, it’s hard to goof about when it’s so blatantly shitty. pietsch’s designs are boring at best and racist at worst, not to mention conspicuously lacking in anyone who is not skinny, muscular, or a dwarf. people have praised this thing so uncritically, including people whose opinions i generally really respect, as if the fact that the mcelroys signing off on green taako made it above reproach.
it didn’t, by the way. there’s no such thing as an unproblematic fav, because everybody fucks something up now and then, but even then, this is a pretty egregious fuck-up! and it was willful!
i’m not saying y’all need to burn your copies of the gn or stop listening to the mcelroys entirely or anything of the sort -- you may remember the disclaimer at the top of the post where i say i really, really love them, and more specifically, i really love taz: balance. but i am BEGGING YOU to think critically about their work. good, good boys can do bad, bad things. white people can produce work that’s racist even if they’re gay women. it’s not mean to critique the boys and it’s not homophobic (or god forbid reverse racist, which is still not a real thing) to critique carey.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the real kicker of this whole thing for me is that there’s a small fanart gallery in the back of the book. most of them aren’t labeled with the artist’s handles, just their names, but there are some truly beautiful pieces featuring diverse designs -- galacticjonah and milkychai both have beautiful latino taakos featured! galacticjonah’s is fat, too! but even after the backlash against green taako, even aside from that being the design that people are going to accept as canonical, there are pieces in the gallery of green taako, as if doubling down on it was the right move.
and by the way, yeah, i’ve read griffin’s apology. but i thought we all learned in kindergarten that an apology doesn’t count if you don’t act on it.
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