#i am reminded of jet atla who was also portrayed as evil for doing direct action in the choice to have him blow up that village

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erik in the dofp scene where trask and raven are in the same room makes me crazy specifically i just talked about it with my twitter moot and it’s just so.

im so mad that we live in the society we live in cause we will never get a true version of eriks politics (in a mainstream movie at least i dont know whats happening comics wise) freed from “dangers of radicalism!!!” propaganda like i will argue to defend him in the movies knowing he sometimes does stupid shit but his stupid shit is undercut by the knowledge that in most situations he’s gonna be thrown into the villain role and therefore always do something extreme and ridiculous!!! i want to see him do stupid shit cause he as a character is doing stupid shit not because the writers are making him do something so the audience will side with the chosen preferred narrative (that charles is often the transportation for! i know he doesn’t honestly believe trask going to jail will suddenly fix the trask problem!!! i know he doesn’t!!!!)

back to dofp he tries to kill raven when trask, who is the one ACTUALLY responsible for the mutant killing robots is standing Right There in The Same Room you cannot tell me he would hold raven, his mutant ally, more responsible/dangerous in that situation than the actual guy who wants to do and planning the mass murder???? he didnt try to kill trask even a little bit he went straight for raven now i DO think he would try to kill raven to prevent a mutant mass murder but why the fuck wouldnt he try to kill trask first

if they wanted to show erik going after raven, which AGAIN, is something i honestly and really do believe he would do, trask shouldn’t have also been in the room. and in the good xmen that lives in my head he wasnt! erik is not going to ignore the mutant mass murderer to kill the mutant he used to commit mass murder!

he was yelling about how his mutant brothers and sisters are dead literally idk how many scenes earlier and he’s not going to go after trask for that first? knowing that trask was the one who carved them up? when he has specific trauma regarding all of that?

i know he takes control of the robots later but???? honestly this brings up the question of how much he actually knew before paris i can’t actually remember which might make this entire thing invalid if he didn’t know about trask being responsible??? and the argument is the murder of trask made them realize how dangerous mutants are or whatever do you really think erik would buy into that. you really think he would care? erik already believes that mutants are going to be feared and attempted to be destroyed no matter what. raven is also super necessary for the sentinels and her being the one that murdered trask and then getting caught immediately after is what caused the problems not trask himself dying look me in the eye and tell me that erik wouldn’t go and try to wipe the entire program out as part of his “stopping it before it starts” plan. yes he would go after raven if he’s getting nervous about it since another holocaust is his biggest fear but really?? he’s not gonna go after the mutant haters first???

additionally some of the language in dofp used to describe the entire raven vs trask situation is so gross?? yes she fucking shot the dude but it is not her fault she was tortured and used to create weapons that killed everyone else she was upset that her friends were also brutally tortured and torn apart i feel like that point is undersold in the movie.

also: trask was going to kill mutants anyways raven not going after him would change nothing in that regard i want to know what the plan would be if raven actually did drop the revenge mission and erik didn’t pull some wild shit. because trask was not going to suddenly stop and the idea that raven murdering trask made people nervous enough to kill all mutants is fucking ridiculous that’s not ravens fault. it is the fault of the people who, i don’t know, decided to do mass murder?

marvel/hollywood has known ties to the military!! erik’s ideas are never truly truly going to be explored in a movie! charles himself is chained to dumb ideas through this!!! and despite that sony got away with way more than anything the mcu would give us and thats why i live in fear of the mcu reboot!!

tdlr: i think its stupid that erik would hold raven accountable for the trask thing over trask himself

disclaimers: my last dofp rewatch was in like. october so i dont have specific-specific moments memorized. yes i believe erik has flaws as a character i am not trying to claim he is right about everything he does. i actually love the erik trying to shoot raven plot point its just that trask was also There. Right There. i think attempted murder makes for good character conflict!!!! restating what i said earlier but i gonna say this again because this is tumblr: in my head erik tries to kill trask with raven and it goes wrong trask escapes or they catch up to raven before she gets close to trask and eriks like “raven i am sorry to do this but we need to make sure that trask can never do anything i promise after this i will burn down the entirety of trask industries and will remember your sacrifice” or some shit and then we continue on with the plot

i am also tired and dont even know if this is coherent i kinda just let emotion possess me sorry folks xx

@stuck--on-you was the person i was talking this over with!!

#tfatws also drove me nuts karli baby. karli baby i am so fucking sorry that happened to you #like tfatws is as far as the mcu is ever going to go and we all saw how that ended #sam and bucky worked with the nypd along with w*lker who was stripped of cap but faced no consequences otherwise as he was out helping them #and karli died. along with all of her group being blown up by zemo. who also fucking sucks i hate zemo #at least i’ll always have the boat scenes #sorry for talking about mcu in the tags. please dont unfollow me i promise im a mcu hater #also dont get me started on the killing changes you or whatever idea #like obviously murder has an affect on you mentally but like it does not suddenly mean you are going to go evil #i think murder is bad before anyone jumps me. irl i think that no one should die. #murder is bad killing people is bad!!! #but ravens not suddenly gonna go full bitch cause she shot one dude #once again. trask carved her friends apart #i am reminded of jet atla who was also portrayed as evil for doing direct action in the choice to have him blow up that village #and he also died! he was treated worse than some of the characters who have done real worse crimes! #does any of this make sense or am i just being insane #thoughts #erik lehnsherr