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#how we feeling vegaspete nation?
chalkrevelations · 10 months
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Watching ep 12 again, and I just
god
It’s SO CLEAR that Vegas was letting Pete go. That he left the handcuff key there, deliberately.
1) Not only does he tell Pete that there’s no guards around (which, lie - we find out in Ep 13 that there’s absolutely someone around who’s able to track Pete’s movements back to the main family and report back to Vegas, which means Vegas must have told them to stand down in Ep 12 - an order that’s still being followed in Ep 13, or else how is Pete able to flee the safehouse unhindered?), but also,
2) Vegas tells Pete that Vegas, himself, is going to fuck off to the vet with his hedgehog (again, lie, Kun has him trapped in that safehouse just as surely - no, more surely than Pete is trapped there, and Vegas isn’t going anywhere except out to the garden to have a breakdown over his dying hedgehog son ... no, actually, his dead hedgehog son, because I DON’T believe that hedgehog is still alive when Vegas walks out of the room cradling it in his hands, I halfway suspect he sat on the edge of the bed and held it while it died and then waited for Pete to wake up, before pretending it was still alive and he was going to take it to the vet), therefore alerting Pete that there will be no one around to stop him, and perhaps MOST TELLING,
3) that button-down shirt that’s left right there at the foot of the bed for Pete to “find” and put on? There is no way on god’s earth that’s one of Vegas’s shirts that he just left lying around. The shirt is the clincher. It’s there for Pete, deliberately left by Vegas for Pete to “find.” Not only is it in Pete’s color, but Vegas “Clothes Horse” Theerapanyakul wouldn’t be caught dead in that workman-like fabric. Sure he’ll wear a T-shirt and pajama pants - when it’s Pete’s T-shirt that he’s been carrying around since his goons stripped Pete in the basement of the main family compound, and he can put on Pete’s skin as armor in the wake of his shitty dad smacking him around. But that pedestrian shirt Pete grabs up to put on to run? The only reason Vegas Theerapanyakul would allow that in his vicinity would be to allow Pete some camouflage.
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kinn/porsche fic rec
Fake Dating AU
Tell Me That You Love Me (even if it’s fake) by @whitewalkers [luuuuuv me a fandom as ripe with fake dating trope as kp, it never quite loses it’s charm innit. kinn has a high school reunion to attend, and of course why not use it as a ploy to sway his most annoying bodyguard into confessing his nascent feelings... well-done, tis a rec]
Vigilante/Special Agent AU
Deep Like a Coastal Shelf by @Lilla_Torg [aight so this is an author with the very distinguished storytelling pattern, that i can not help but appreciate, their world-building and characterization is usually top notch, and this particular babie is not an exception: porsche and chay were brought up by someone from the syndicate that targets organized crime, and now that people, who used to call themselves their parents, are gone, Porsche is left with the ominous List, and a black leather vigilante suit, to keep their legacy alive. korn and gun are dead, Main and Minor fams are combined, tankhun has taken over as the Leader. kinn handles their overseas ops. amazing quality of storytelling, as always. DNI if you can’t handle pairings other than kp, as this is a multi-pairing piece, as it is customary for this author. but again, the story is so good, i didn’t even skip kimchay/vegaspete bits, which is a feat on it’s own. max kudosssssss]
the house don’t fall (when the bones are good) by @bytheriveriwept [i often say that i luved some works, but there are works i luved, and then there are works i LUVVEEEEEEDDDDDDDD with my whole-ass heart, this bit of genius masterpiece is the case of the latter. kp are special agents, colleagues, parts of the same organization, cohesive unit, and all that. only until porsche decides to take on risqué assignment, and go undercover. will they still be them, when he is back....? what can i say, this was sooooooooo up my alley in so many ways, i don’t even wanna say no more, if you haven’t read this.... what the hell is you even doing]
Third person POV
First Impressions by @AirgiodSLV [oooohhhhh how i luv me some piece of delicious 3rd person pov, yummmmm, Bank is a new hire for the Major fam, and this is the first time he is present at the meeting between the families.... yumm👌]
Alternative Meeting AU
stumbling to the edge by @FireRisingOverTheHills [absolutely delightful and underrated series for those who is not looking for heavy feels: it is light-hearted, sweet, well-written and entertaining, all without being angsty or plot-twist-heavy. despite the alternative meeting, it is still pretty much in-universe compliant. kp meet at a bar under different circumstances, but end up pretty much in the same compromising position that we all love to see them in. much kudos🙏]
the less i know the better by @mslunita [yummmmm, delicious morsel of tinder hookup-turned-softness, i really enjoyed this one: kp initially meet on the apps, and yet, being themselves, immediately turn this motha all soppy and lovey-dovey, - extremely canon-complaint, if you ask me. exactly the kinda content i am here for🙏 super-well done]
For Want of Fighting by @Mara [this fandom sure does luuuuuuv it some alternative meetings aus, huh, and i ain’t about to complain. great short piece, Businessman AU, first meeting is not too drastically different to canon, but the context does slightly differ. very entertaining and def a rec]
Sports AU
Salt by @ronadnhermy [oh. my. god. what a fucking catch, luv luv luved ittttttt, so well-written, so entertaining, there is plot, there is emotional turmoil, morally dubious kinn, maybe the younger versions of them is not exactly my jam, but with such quality, who cares... porsche is like 18-19 and on the Thailand National Taekwondo team, kinn is in uni, and sees something he likes, thangs spiral from there... super recommend, ah-mazing, allllllll the kudos]
bar owner!porsche AU
like real people do by @motherfleckers [Kinn is a celeb, Porsche owns a tiny bar in a tinier fishing town, simple premise with a delightful resolution: eyebrows, usual canon levels of audacity, motorcycle rides, and, most importantly, kinn’s dick is not small. it’s very very good (the fic, not kinn’s dick, although that too). major kudosssssssss]
Now make your bed (now lie in it) by @deliciousblizzardshark [2-for-1 tropes sale, apart from bar owner!porsche, you get accidental babie acquisition, my beloved <33333 fair warning, one must brace themselves for being gutted with longing, as well as general adorableness of kinn going “i’ve only had this random babie for 1,5 days but if something happens to her imma end everyone in this establishment and then myself”, adored this one sooooo much, prolly one of my personal faves, sooooooo many kudosssssss]
Cabin crew AU
before i leave, i want it a thousand times by @mslunita [despite somewhat disparaging reputation real-life cabin crew have acquired in my city, i clearly have no issues reading porsche being one slutty flight attendant, and hey, when your client is kinn anakinn theerapanyakul, who could actually blame him for slightly loosening his morals up on occasion, right? certainly not me, you go boiiiiii]
Historical AU
Love and the Art of War by @fortunehasgivenup [oooooowwwwww yassss, this is sooooo far up my alley it ain’t even funny. first of all, this author is everything, man, love all their fics, must reads, all of them. this specific babie is sooooo precious though: set in some nebulous middle ages, it’s a war camp setting, kinn has been away from home for months, and upon returning from some battle or other, gets an unexpected visitor waiting for him inside his tent. ngl, i would have read 200k of this, but author gave me 4, and i lapped them up like a man starved. perfection, truly. not to mention the use of “anakinn” in any context just does it for me🤷‍♀️]
Sex worker adjacent AU
escort AU by @Oscarian_Flame [Porsche joins the same agency kinn has been a long-term client of, and the universe expands from there. well-written and fun to explore, with interesting oc’s, worth a read for sure!]
Cliff Jump by @AirgiodSLV [ooohhhhh yeahhh babie we talking with this one💅 soooo.... vegas is using the same agency, and it kinda triggers kinn’s competitive side, earning him a certain...  reputation. once every twink is bangkok is so exhausted that ain’t noone is able to deal with his over-the-top shite no more, the agency sends someone who has enough stamina to withstand the lengthy bounds of athletic... interactions. yeahhhhh, you guessed it. so very entertaining and plot-twisty. so very delightful]
even though you’re not mine, you’ve got that look in your eyes by @fortunehasgivenup [highly highly doubt there are people left in this fandom who have not read this masterpiece, and yet could not exclude it from the recs, it’s that spectacular. if one must create escort-by-misunderstanding AU.... do it to such level. spectacular work, allllll the kudos]
Night Call by @ziusik [one of my fav pieces in this fandom no cap, if you know this author, you know, i obvi adore every single word of both mileapo and kp this author has everrrrr written, and this particular stripper!porsche au with absolutely helplessly besotted idiot-kinn is outa this worldddddddd great. it’s like if “under the influence” by cb was a fic, the vibe is simply immaculate]
Comedy/Crack
Wilderness Camp by @housseao3 [wholesome and endearing piece of fun, i lichrally cackled multiple times, i meannnn, tankhun with his rompers, chan/tay, sugarplum/chicken, unforgettable ken/groundskeeper....? adorable, entertaining and praise-worthy attempt at light-heartedness and humour, super-well done]
School/Uni AU
let there be no barriers (between you and i) by @anakinn [being both adorable and hot is a general qualifier for ending up on my rec page, so here it goes as well. porsche has had a crush on one of his classmates for the better part of their university journey. one day being bored in class, he decides to test some random online advice, and see whether anyone of his mates is a mind-reader.... you guessed it folks, one particular person just might be. short and to the point delicious morsel of general canon-appropriate kp horniness for eo <3]
i gave a second chance to cupid by @haeseolar [omnomnomnom *chomps down on this fic with gusto* you know the feeling you get while consuming media, this overwhelming regret that the magnificent piece of work you’re currently devouring has already been perceived by you, and you never get to experience it for the first time ever again...? big time my energy while reading this one, what a mind candy, i reeeeeeeeeally enjoyed it🙏🙏🙏 kinn is 39, he is teaching lit at a private school, when the new 24yo PE teacher joins their roster fresh off uni... i dunno what to tell you, this author just gets it, when i say all the kudos, i quite literally mean all the possible kudos for this one]
Various in-universe AUs
The One Where Porsche and Kim Are Gym Buddies by @fortunehasgivenup [oooiiii, what fun, what funnnnnn: kim and porsche are both in the fights, and occasionally meet at the gym... reluctant comradery ensues. they talk to each other about their respective crushes, none the wiser that they have been railing each other’s nong and phi... what else is there to say, the author is so good i even attempted to read kimchay, which is practically unheard of, lich-rally all the kudos]
Here With You by @Yeetyeetbroski [daaaaaaaamn sonnn, the tension, the tensionnnnnn..... “scrumptious” is an understatement for what a treat it was. thank you dear author, much much MUCH kudos p.s. while you’re at it, i’d recommend to go through this author’s whole catalogue, their rendition of kp dynamic is a delight to read]
The Aftermath by @Yeetyeetbroski [yippy, the softness <3333333 So this is an Ep 6 aftermath, an AU for Ep 7. absolutely lovely and adorbs. soft besotted kinn is universally accepted as one of the fandom fav versions of kinn, so in regards of delivering on this front this fic is def up there. awesome read]
Post-canon
Storm to Weather by @archay [it was soooo good, i luv this typa vibe, bitter-sweet, but hopeful <333 the theerapanyakul empire is done for, and kinn and porsche are out to fend for themselves in a real world. tis a rec]
Whittled Down by Another War by @rageprufrock [i... are there even words... abso-fucking-lutely legendary piece, the way theerapanyakul bros dynamic is portrayed in this.... damnnnnnnnnnn, if there is anyone, literally anyone left who has not read this yet... what the fuck are you doing with your life, GO READ THIS ABSOLUTELY MINDBLOWING FIC]
fell in love with the fire long ago by @builtempires [wieeeeeeeeeeee, what a tasty treat: kinn is away on business, and a certain head of the minor family decides that sending his partner some racy pics while separated by thousands of miles would help the situation... it both does and doesn’t. very entertaining, super hot, much kudos]
Magic AU
Instinct by @the-wayside [ohhhhh this bloody gorgeous muthafuckin thang.... i remember being so overwhelmed after reading initial chapters that i even dmed the author, cause it was cloying at my skin, the story is superb. not everyone, but many people got an instinct living inside of them, and what do you think happens when kinn goes to some random underground fight held at some random seedy club and his instinct meets porsche.... yeppp. something about reading how the most animalistic, primal part of kinn wants and longs for what is his is just.... maaaaaaaan, If you haven’t read it yet and there is still an opportunity for you to experience it for the first time, i am so fucking envious no cap]
Poring Down Crimson Fire by @Lilla_Torg [whatttttttt, this was fucking insane, like...??? the world-building??? i fucking can’t, off the charts, insert chief kiss emoji size of a sun. i don’t even know how to rec something like dat, just... insanely devastatingly interesting story, and yeah, technically it’s not even kp fic per se, cause the whole fucking gang be giving off main character vibes. must read]
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bonus:
MILEAPO
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Starting Ambitions by @iffervescent [abo rpf, fucking masterpiece, luv this story sm]
Marked by @oliviacirce [yeahhhhhhhh... this. this was... an experience. they are about to film the scene in pete/porsche’s room, but the special effects person is out with the stomach flu, and there is no one to apply the fake hickies to apo’s neck. mile comes up with the brilliant idea that saves the day. no words, only squeals and cheers]
Whole New Kinds of Weather by @archay [short, sweet, hot and to the point 👌 after the NYE 2023 the whole team comes back to Tong’s for an after-party (for the live of me, i dunno why is it always Tong in the fics, tis has become some kind of established fanon by now), and thangs transpire in his bedroom (sorry, phi!!! pls don’t kill them)]
obviously, every single word @ziusik has ever written, especially Limerence, your lips in the street lights, and of fucking course, just a step away, which is definitely one of my fav ma fics everrrrrr and forever fandom classic
and finally...
said you’d be coming back this way again, baby by @concernedlily [this is what i’d call an ultimate ma fic, jokes aside, if there would be a limited amount of fics a person is allowed to read in they lifetime, this would make the cut every time for me. no matter how many wonderfully written, extremely talented ma works are out there, this would always be the ma fic for me, absolutely fandom-forming, i can never praise this work enough]
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stormyoceans · 2 years
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2 days left to pete finally getting kidnapped vegaspete nation how are we feeling!!!!!!
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onstoryladders · 2 years
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i truuuuuly cannot understand where they are going with vegaspete?? like i know they’re waiting to set it up later (but why wait THIS long?? especially since vegaspete could really be driving the whole evil!vegas thing) but i dont understand why they’re not even setting it up yet. like sure we’ve barely seen them interact, but i feel like even in the times that we DO, the writers/directors make no effort to make it seem like there is a deeper story to tell here. if i didn’t know vegaspete were a thing in the novel, and that the show has explicitly marketed them as a relationship that will be explored, i feel like i wouldn’t think there was anything going on between them at all?? like every interaction they’ve had has just felt like them interacting as just the sum of the parts, pete as a bodyguard, and vegas as kinn’s cousin. this could also be because the writers are pushing vegas’ obsession with porsche rn (and maybe that’s what drives him to pete in the first place idk i literally know nothing about them from the novel) but i feel like the writers could be planting seeds and leaving breadcrumbs to set up the inevitable story between them, but we’re just not seeing any of that at all :/ (this could also me being greedy and impatient because i just want them to have more screentime lol)
Hi, anon! Thanks for the ask, love me some new chance to talk about my current obsession 😎
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Alright, I have to admit that I'm still a bit worried about this whole thing gbrudgdyd but for different reasons. VegasPete is a MESS in the novel (I haven't read it but I know the authors couldn't even handle KinnPorsche as well as the show's doing so far, so...), and I'm very curious to see what they changed to make it work.
But will they make it work? 🥲
I don't think they're taking too long to establish their storyline, but it all depends on how they're gonna handle it in the next episodes, so in hindsight I could change my mind. This is a very very slow burn, and for a reason: Vegas is not only an important character for his own storyline, but also for Kinn and Porsche's. He's the involuntary catalyst for their relationship: he makes Kinn jealous, he forces him to confront his paranoia, and then forces Porsche to do the same. How could he do all of this if he was busy falling for someone else?
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Also his obsession with Porsche tells us a lot about him as well. I don't think he really likes him. There's probably attraction involved, because of course there is 💀 but I think it's less about Vegas and Porsche and more about Vegas and Kinn. It's all a game, a power play that Vegas keeps losing over and over again. Vegas wants what Kinn has, and so he tried to get Porsche to himself, but what will he do now that his chances of succeeding are ruined? He's gonna snap.
So this opens the road to VegasPete nation 😎 and exacerbates the conflict between the two sides of the family, which I guess will drive the second half of the story? I have no idea 💀
So to me the set-up seems good enough so far, meaning that everything can still work if they make good use of their time in the second half, which I hope will be the case gfunrifbeye
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They established pretty well that there's some kind of tension between Pete and Vegas: their scenes clearly hint at a future development of their relationship because they would be useless otherwise. They don't add much to the story.
What they do, is letting us see Pete's reactions whenever Vegas is around. He's obviously on edge, he tries to make himself look as innocuous as he can, becoming all dumb smiles and even dumber excuses. But then we saw how he acted when Vegas started torturing that man 👀 so what's Pete hiding? Was he wary in that scene, was he interested? What goes on in his head?
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Vegas is not really interested in Pete at the moment. Even in the novel, from what I've read around Tumblr, he only starts being interested after the kidnapping. He has no reason to before. It's what he sees in Pete once he gets his hands on him that gets to him and makes him grow attracted and then attached to him, I think.
So what I'm trying to say is that there's no VegasPete until THERE IS. Their story starts and grows in a very specific setting and situation.
So yeah, I think we have yet to see their storyline start because up until now they had to dedicate most of their time to other stuff, and they couldn't jump straight into the kidnapping. But once that happens we're in for a wild ride.
God, I hope they know what they're doing 🙏🏻
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kimaya-shekhawat · 2 years
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How are we feeling now VegasPete nation????
😍😍😍❣️❣️❣️
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mandaloresson · 1 year
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fic idea: post canon Pete getting Vegas another hedgehog...... how are we feeling about that one VegasPete nation???
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magicaldreamfox1 · 2 years
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VEGASPETE NATION HOW DO WE FEEL
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fanfictionroxs · 2 years
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Okay so I know how all of us traumatised Not Me fans are scared about VegasPete being another GramBlack, but honestly guys the unhinged feelings I have for VegasPete is also giving me a LOT of ToddBlack nostalgia.
The excitement, the fear, the feral yearning, the unhinged potential to be SO crazy ahshdjfjfj you all remember ep11 of Not Me and how the ToddBlack ship/nation rose (some were on board since ep1, others like me caught sus vibes in ep5)? And the absolute drama that escalated and how there were still sceptics and then ep13 dropped on our heads and ToddBlack was basically solidified with Gun and Sing ONLY having 2 scenes together as Black and Todd (and others where Todd looked at the sleeping beauty that was Black in a coma) and yet the ship rose and what was I trying to say?
Ah yes VegasPete.. so yes I'm really really getting the same sort of excitement and ahahdjdkffhdjd I just hope it pays off and we get amazing scenes between the two please please gay drama gods!
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What if... Hear me out... What if Bible and Build kissed at the turn of midnight during their little new years bash?
How are we feeling, vegaspete nation?
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chalkrevelations · 1 year
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I’m sure someone must have talked about this somewhere before, but every now and then I have a new revelation about VP and I’m just, like, how did I not see this before?
In Ep 11, when Pete tells Vegas he’s not eating, and Vegas asks him if he thinks he can choose, and Pete’s response is “I’m not choosing, I’m just not eating” ...
Despite all the food = relationship/connection/nurture metaphors salted through their entire storyline, It just hit me that this conversation is a metaphor for what Pete has been doing EMOTIONALLY all this time. Even back with the main family. Possibly for his entire life, the whole time that - he’ll admit in Ep 13 - he’s been feeling empty and useless.
He’s not choosing. He’s just not feeling.
Until he grabs Vegas’s face with both hands the way he grabs that bowl of noodles with both hands. Until he lays back and offers himself up during sex like he slurps down those noodles while making ecstatic little noises. Until he’s reminding himself of Vegas’s touch while weeping into his fucking dinner.
Vegas is the one who makes him feel something. Vegas is the one who feeds him, on 376 different levels. And Vegas can’t force that. He can’t force Pete to feel something any more than he can beat him into eating. It’s only after Vegas reaches back across the chasm to meet Pete’s offered hand (because Vegas is starving emotionally, too) - the way he proves the noodles aren’t poisoned by taking the bowl back from Pete and eating out of it - that Pete’s willing to eat.
I’m just going to be sitting here with my head in my hands for a few minutes. Don’t mind me.
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chalkrevelations · 5 months
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Vegas and Pete in Ep 14 go from Pete kneeling over Vegas with a gun in his hand and Vegas's blood all over him as Vegas asks Pete to be the one to kill him to Pete kneeling over Vegas (with a gun in his hand?) and Vegas's blood all over him as Pete wails in despair over Vegas dying under him.
I am not ever getting over this show.
(And then there's the hospital scene, but that's post-credits and therefore somewhere outside the actual bounds of the show.)
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chalkrevelations · 1 year
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So, listen. We talk about Vegas giving Pete what he needs when he lets Pete beat the shit out of him in the parking garage in Ep 14, but that’s never entirely worked for me, and I think I’ve finally started getting my hands around why.
You’re going to have a hard time convincing me Vegas is that altruistic at that point. That may be a little bit of what’s going on, but this is a guy who’s already made the ultimate sacrifice of letting Pete go - Vegas tells Pete he’s sorry behind Yok’s bar, but he never asks for Pete to come back to him, he doesn’t ask Pete to forgive him, he doesn’t ask for shit from Pete except (twice) to kill him (btw, how’s that feel on the other side, Pete?). I absolutely don’t want to downplay what Vegas does here, because it’s a lot. And in return, it’s not like Pete then walked away from the main family for Vegas. As far as Vegas knew, Pete was going to go right back to his pre-safehouse life with the main family and without Vegas, pack Vegas up into a little box somewhere and stuff it way way down in the back of his mind, and Vegas would be lucky if he saw Pete in the lineup of main bodyguards at a family function. Or, you know, more likely Vegas would be dead, and Pete would move on, as far as Vegas could tell. The next time Vegas sees Pete after the scene behind Yok’s bar, Pete is back at Kinn’s side. The first time Vegas sees Pete in the minor family’s assault on the main family compound, Pete is covering Kinn, until Kinn’s boyfriend shows up to take over that job. Pete has repeatedly shown Vegas that he’d rather be the main family’s loyal hound than return to Vegas again.
So, I submit that an awful lot of the beatdown in the parking garage is a kid who’s learned that even negative attention is attention (you think he doesn’t know what people say about him?) and who’s willing to let his crush beat the shit out of him because it’s 1) better than being ignored and 2) more proof that Pete feels something about him.
(ETA: Little bit of follow-up here.)
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chalkrevelations · 2 years
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Y’ALL. LISTEN.
Pete hands Vegas that rope to bind him in Ep 12 and then offers up his wrists, but here’s the thing, GOD, the thing that is making me feral again, as I go back and re-watch the show: Pete is absolutely perfectly capable of getting out of that rope, no matter Vegas’s intentions. We see this in Ep TWO, when Pete’s right beside Porsche - so we don’t miss him, even before we (technically) know how important Pete is to the narrative - during the training exercise in which they’re supposed to get out of rope bonds (which look a shit-ton like the rope that Pete hands to Vegas later in the safehouse) while underwater in the pool at the main family compound. We hear an entire big lecture just before they’re all shoved into the deep end (lit. and fig.) about how “Just so you all know, if you are captured, taken hostage, you have less than three minutes to untie yourselves. Make the minutes count.” We see Pete prepping himself for maximum bodyguard performance during this little speech, rolling his neck and shoulders to make sure he’s ready. He’s the first one Chan pushes into the pool. Not only does he get out of those ropes almost immediately, even underwater - he’s one of, if not the first person out of his ropes and breaking the surface, as we also watch Porsche struggle at the bottom of the pool - but he manages to position himself to float up, near the water’s surface, as he works to free himself, so that he’s right there at the top of the water to break out, immediately up into the air, once he gets his bonds off. He not only can do this, he’s fucking good at it.
I went back to Ep 12 after that. Vegas initiates what ultimately becomes their sex scene at 27:30 by reaching out, grabbing the front plackets of the shirt Pete’s wearing, and pulling him closer. Three minutes later, at 30:30, Vegas initiates the final kiss of their sex scene, just before he pulls out and rolls off of Pete to lie beside him.
Those three minutes that we get counted, all right, and Pete did NOTHING to untie himself, to extricate himself from this situation he found himself in. This was a deliberate choice he made, not just at the beginning, when he handed Vegas that rope, but consistently, constantly, every single second when he chose to remain bound and to offer himself up for 1) whatever Vegas wanted to do and 2) the intimacy of that encounter. At no point was he able to fall back on, “well, I’ve made my decision and now I’ll have to live with it, what can I do?” Every. single. second. was freely given.
Y’all. I’m chewing glass again.
And then I compare that constant, consistent gift of his consent - in the bonds that he could escape at any time, with nothing but his clever fingers and his trained self-sufficiency - to the handcuff, which he needs a tool for - if not the key, something he can pick it with - and I want to cry again.
(And then I think about those goddam bolt cutters that Vegas left lying around, clearly within reach at every point in time post-pill, and I want to chew glass again. They’re such a beautiful disaster, and I love them so much.)
(ETA: Follow-up post on the gd bolt cutters is located here.)
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chalkrevelations · 1 year
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OK. OK OK OK.
So, yes, the importance of Vegas telling Pete during that final hospital scene that Pete isn’t his pet, he’s the most important person in Vegas’ life is obvious. But I’ve been talking to @lu-sn and @minorfamilysupremacy about some of this, and new implications and layers of that KEEP hitting me. Bear with me a minute, because I’m trying to organize my thoughts and get them down before they get away. Back here, I talked about how Vegas’s question of whether “someone else” can feed Pete isn’t theoretical, it’s really about Kinn. And then the statement in the hospital, this “you’re the most important person in my life” is, in some ways, ALSO about Kinn, and about the main family, and about Pete’s relationship to them vs. his relationship to Vegas, and about the choices Pete’s made to stay with, and then to leave, and then to stay with Vegas.
So, from the beginning, Vegas calls Pete a dog because he is a dog for the main family. That’s the level of respect and care he gets from them. He’s a working dog, so he’s kept in good shape, and he’s a loyal hound, the way dogs can be. Even as he resigns, he tells Korn that he’ll always love the main family and feel loyalty to them (and excavating how much truth is there, and how long it’ll last in the face of Korn’s inevitable machinations of Vegas is a whole other question ...). But he is unquestionably there for the service of family members, to be used as a tool however they want to use him. We see Pete serve with loyalty and equanimity and even some surface pleasure in some of his duties, but underneath it all, we finally learn - after Vegas cracks that tailored bodyguard armor open and pulls Pete apart just as surely as he pulled apart any of his torture victims, to look at his soft squishy insides, to look at his heart, to look at his soul, to see who Pete really is under the dog collar bodyguard suit and routine the main family keeps him in (kind of just a different level of the kennel bedroom Vegas keeps him in with a dog bowl to eat out of) - we learn that Pete gets no real satisfaction from any of this, that he lives his life feeling empty and useless. So empty and useless that once he has someone see him for who he really is and treat him like an actual person and then has that snatched back out of his grasp by Vegas’s trauma responses and abuse, he would rather die than continue to live that way with Vegas. He would rather kill himself than be Vegas’s dog. So what he does is knock Vegas flat and run right back to the main family to be their dog again.
Because it doesn’t hurt as much when they only treat you as a dog and a tool. When they don’t see you as an actual person, when they haven’t seen who you really are, haven’t treated you as a person and touched you with tenderness and reverence, and looked at you like you’re the entire world and fed you and fed you and fed you until you burst with it, for the first time in your life - and then put the dog collar right back on you. Being a dog for the main family is business as usual. Being a dog for Vegas, when Vegas knows the person underneath it and - Pete now thinks he wrongly presumed - cares about that person, is unendurable. It’s so much worse than being forgotten by Kinn.
I think hearing that Vegas DOES love him during the parking lot beatdown/confession scene is part of why Pete can set aside his issues with the label and role of “pet” when he eventually disavows the personal autonomy he fought Vegas so hard for, in favor of saving Vegas’s life in the poolside scene. Vegas actually does care for him in a way that the main family doesn’t, and he’s told Pete so. This is Pete’s “I love you” back to Vegas, although I’ve also talked about how I think the beatdown and the “I’m your pet” line mirror each other as self-effacing and dehumanizing expressions of love. Which then becomes part of exactly why “You’re not my pet, you’re the most important person in my life” becomes so. very. important: Because it lets us see that Vegas knows what he’s cost Pete.
Vegas is so smart. We see that again and again and again. We see it when the lightbulb goes on almost immediately when Pete tells him that the abuse Vegas endures isn’t even about him, it’s because Kun is a shitty father. We see it when he almost immediately operationalizes this knowledge and shows up the next time he’s been smacked around having already done some self-care by putting on his soft pajama pants and Pete’s metaphorical skin. (Listen, I’ve decided the navy T-shirt is actually the same T-shirt that Pete was wearing the first time he got caught sneaking around the minor family house, that it was the dark T-shirt Pete’s wearing under the orange jumpsuit the second time he got caught sneaking around the minor family house, and then given that it’s already been stripped off of him by the time Vegas shows up to see Pete tied to a pillar in Torture Dungeon Main, it’s lying around somewhere down there for Vegas to pick up like a serial killer trophy, and now he’s wearing it like a boyfriend shirt. You will not change my mind about this.)
ANYWAY. It took Pete having a complete nervous breakdown, a suicide attempt, knocking Vegas the fuck out, and running back to the main family, but Vegas finally also seems to understand what he’s done, what he’s cost Pete. He apologizes - repeatedly - and he literally puts his life in Pete’s hands, and then he leaves Pete in control of what happens from there, no matter how much it’s killing Vegas to do so. He actually prioritizes Pete’s feelings over his own, which is one reason I will go toe-to-toe with anyone who tries to tell me that Vegas isn’t actually the best character in the show, narratively speaking, with the best defined and most compelling growth arc. And so I have no problem believing that Vegas finally understands why it hurts Pete so much to be Vegas’s dog when he’s been able to endure it for the main family, but also that what Pete is getting from the main family isn’t enough anymore. Vegas knows what it costs Pete to take on that role again at poolside, just to keep Vegas from killing himself, and maybe Vegas even understands that Pete, himself, thinks he can endure it now that he has some assurance from Vegas that Vegas actually does love him. And what’s so so so important here is that Vegas doesn’t want that for Pete. He doesn’t want to treat Pete like the main family - “that filthy family” - does. He doesn’t want to treat Pete like Vegas, himself, has in the past. He wants Pete to know that, no, Pete doesn’t have to just accept the crumbs that fall on the floor off of Vegas’s table. He gets to sit at the table. When Vegas says “You’re the most important person in my life,” he’s saying “I still see you. I see you as person, not as a dog, the way the main family does, the way Kinn does, the way Kinn still does. I understand what you were telling me when you let me know that kind of treatment doesn’t feed you, doesn’t nourish you. And I’m not going to do that to you. This relationship is not going to be a poison pill. I’m going to feed you the way you deserve to be fed, treat you the way you actually deserve to be treated.”
And that’s why this line is just as important as Pete’s choice of Vegas over Kinn at the poolside scene, when Pete rejects the idea of someone else (Kinn) feeding him. This is practically in direct response to that. Pete’s made the choice that he wants Vegas to feed him, so Vegas is taking on the responsibility to feed him properly, and in contrast to the way Kinn and the main family have been feeding him.
Vegas is promising that Pete now gets to eat whenever he wants, whatever he wants, and that’s in direct contrast to the main family’s McDonald’s Kid Meal bodyguard rations version of affection.
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chalkrevelations · 10 months
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No, but. Y’ALL.
I know I’ve said in the past that I think the shirt Vegas has Pete in during Ep 13 - the white one with the sleeves hacked off that Pete’s wearing when he runs from the safehouse - was probably one of Tawan’s leftover shirts (and I have never been so offended on Pete’s behalf in my life, jsyk). But I only just started to wonder how much Tawan helped screw up Vegas’s perceptions of how someone who wants to be your boyfriend is likely to act, and how much Vegas was trying to fit Pete into that mold - how much the shirt is the physical manifestation of what’s going on psychologically and emotionally, at that point. Vegas puts Pete in the (ex-)boyfriend’s shirt as a way of trying to fit him into his experience of how a boyfriend acts, right?
You can’t tell me Vegas has ever had a normal relationship in his life to model off of, but Tawan was Kinn’s long-term boyfriend. Tawan had an extensive relationship with Kinn - you know, the paragon who’s held up to Vegas as the model to beat, so surely, even though Vegas wasn’t happy with Tawan, he’s the kind of person who acts how a boyfriend acts, right? Or Kinn wouldn’t have stayed in a relationship with him, right? And yet, you also can’t tell me that Tawan, that desperately clingy mfk’r, wouldn’t have let Vegas keep him locked in the bedroom if only Vegas had wanted to - Tawan probably would have seen it as proof of Vegas’s devotion.
Also, if one of Tawan’s shirts is presumably lying around at the safehouse, it would indicate Tawan’s been there in the past - possibly as a getaway with Vegas? As a hideout during the time Kinn wasn’t supposed to know Tawan was still alive? At any rate, he may have even been introduced to Vegas’s safehouse sex dungeon, given the amount of time it would take to set all that up, which Vegas probably did NOT have before Kun packed him off to the safehouse this time. (:sadfaces: at the idea of Vegas having sad, bad bdsm sex with Tawan, neither of them actually enjoying it)
And oh my god, it only just hit me in these Pete-Tawan parallels, that this is precisely what Kinn does to Tawan (Vegas’s chess piece, who provides undercover intel and infiltrates enemy territory) earlier in the show. He locks him in a bedroom - where Tawan proceeds to hack off the sleeves of his shirts (like he’s 14-year-old me in dance class) - the way Vegas has Pete (Kinn’s chess piece, who infiltrates enemy territory to provide undercover intel) locked in a bedroom, in a similar shirt. I’m increasingly convinced that the similarities of the shirts are deliberate, even if the one Pete’s wearing isn’t actually supposed to be Tawan’s leftovers. (But I still think it is.)
I also think the blue shirt Vegas leaves for Pete's "escape" in Ep 12 was Tawan’s. I can’t remember offhand if we actually see him wearing a similar shirt in the show, but Perth-as-Tawan is wearing a similar one in the Filmania trailer.
We spend so much time in the show on Porsche-Tawan that it entirely escaped me until now that - given Porsche is also Pete is also Porsche - there’s actually a triangle here.
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chalkrevelations · 2 years
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Listen. I’m rummaging through parts of Ep 11 again. And as someone who has to do wound care on a pretty regular basis and who also has to move people around all the time who aren’t able to move themselves, I am going to tell you that I fully believe, with every fiber of my being, that there was some point when Vegas was trying to get Pete wrapped in that gauze, while he was bandaging those belt lacerations on Pete’s chest, when he had to just stop and sob in frustration at trying to manhandle a completely limp, unconscious body by himself with no help whatsoever and get that fucking gauze wrapped around Pete in any way that was helpful, let alone neat - particularly if he was worried that Pete was maybe dying at the time.
I’m NOT taking any criticism WHATSOEVER on this. I realize this is Vegas Theerapanyakul I’m talking about, but TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU. It’s not like he wasn’t already emotionally overwrought after finding Pete hanging unconscious and limp in his chains. He clearly got it out of his system and collected himself and went on, but the parts that we didn’t see? That was absolutely something that happened - Vegas Motherfucking Theerapanyakul crying in frustration and maybe, just maybe, a little bit of fear.
And this was probably with Pete’s unconscious body sprawled out on the bed on his back with Vegas bent over him, forehead pressed into Pete’s sternum and fucking pissed as hell that he has to pause for a break to cry before he can collect himself and get back to it.
(ETA: Little bit of a follow-up here.)
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