#hiccstrid critical

[fanfic-lover-girl]

I like Hiccstrid...but I have issues

So I watched How to Train Your Dragon about a month ago and I absolutely loved it! So much so that before I took the time to watch the other two movies, I basically know the plots for the remaining movies from all the fanfiction, Youtube videos and Tumblr posts I have read about it lol. I know I have issues when it comes to consuming media properly :). I still intend to watch the movies...I hope.

Anyway, I liked Astrid's character in HTTYD 1. She was a fully fleshed-out character and besides her opening scene, she never felt like a love interest character for the majority of the movie. She was the perfect Viking, everything Hiccup was not. She was pretty (because what love interest is not pretty **roll my eyes**) but she was angry and violent. She was perfect...until the romantic flight scene. When I watched the movie, I enjoyed the sequence and I found Astrid cute but the entire scene just felt kind of forced. And it marked the beginning of my issues with Hiccstrid, as much as I still found the couple enjoyable at the end of the film.

Astrid's bullying was not resolved properly

Astrid never bullied Hiccup the way the others like Snotlout did, but she was still complicit in Hiccup's ostracization. It's obvious she does not like him or have any fondness for him. However, at no point does she apologize or express any remorse for hurting him in the movie. She just suddenly likes him after one (amazing) flight? Hiccup just moves on from her ignoring his existence like that? No reconciliation??

Astrid's punching Hiccup is not sweet

As I have mentioned before in other posts, I find the trope of a female character expressing her love for a guy through violence to be disgusting. The only fictional couples I tolerate this are Jimmy/Cindy (Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius) and Helga/Arnold (Hey Arnold!). I don't mind Jimmy/Cindy because their fights tend to be verbal and argumentative in nature and Jimmy gives as good as he gets from Cindy. They both get a kick from riling each other up, Cindy a bit more than Jimmy. I don't know the Hey Arnold! show very well but I understand why Helga acts the way she does and Arnold is allowed to be angry when she hurts him. When she is truly being romantic and sweet with Arnold she does not hit him. She seems to mainly torment him when she is upholding her mask to hide her feelings. You can say that this is the case for Astrid too. She grew up as a Viking and Viking culture is violent. However, I hate that we are meant to see her hitting Hiccup as part of her love language. It would be fine if it were Tuffnut or Snotlout but Hiccup is not like other Vikings. He is a gentle person and he is not tough like his other counterparts. Astrid's hits hurt him and he expresses obvious pain. But Astrid gives him a follow-up kiss after each punch so it's all good? Not for me.

Hiccstrid felt kind of shallow

I think the relationship felt rushed. Astrid went from disdain to crushing way too quickly. It's like they missed a step in the relationship: friendship. The romantic flight scene should be the starting point where she reconsiders her opinion on Hiccup and maybe after a few more dragon training sessions she would appreciate Hiccup's growth. Maybe her ice queen character thaws over time as she gets to know Hiccup better in training. She laughs at his sarcastic quips. Maybe she begins to sit with him at meal times away from the others. Just small stuff to show their deepening friendship. However, Hiccstrid was not given this development because like many other action type movies the romantic relationship is given the backburner which leads to my final issue.

Hicctrid was not needed

I mentioned earlier that Astrid was not treated like a love interest until like halfway through the movie when we saw the romantic flight scene. Hiccup does not even spend time beyond the opening scene expressing attraction towards her. You can easily forget he has a crush on her. Because ultimately romance was not needed in this story. At all. When you really think about it, what did Astrid contribute to Hiccup and Toothless' story? What does Hiccup and Astrid's relationship contribute to the story? Astrid could have given the pep talk and helped rally the other teens to help Hiccup as a FRIEND, not a love interest. But of course, when the guy becomes a hero and saves the day he needs to get the girl of his dreams at the end. It would have been nice if the first movie focused on developing the Hiccstrid friendship and then developed the romance in the second movie, wrapping it up with their marriage in the third.

Anyway, this is not to say I HATE Hiccstrid. I still need to watch the other two movies before I can truly say whether this couple is truly couples' goals as many people claim. I think they look amazing together and they seem to have great chemistry in HTTYD 2. I think they complement each other in theory and Astrid would be a great help in helping Hiccup lead as chief when the time comes. But I don't love it enough to read fanfiction or watch many Youtube edits about them and at this point, I sometimes find Hiccstrid annoying to see in my fanfics unless it addresses my problems with the development of the relationship.

#httyd #how to train your dragon #hiccstrid #hiccstrid critical #anti hiccstrid #astrid hofferson #hiccup haddock #helga x arnold #jimmy x cindy #we need to stop romanticizing female assault on guys #httyd movies #httyd hiccup #astrid httyd #hiccup x astrid

[raayllum]

wait now i'm so curious why you don't like mi amore wing jfzkdsl i always thought rtte missed a lot of opportunities with hiccup and astrid's relationship tbh, esp since i loved their dynamic in httyd2 and rtte didn't really get us there, but i can't remember the ep giving me any strong opinions one way or the other

A few biased things tbh

1) I've just never been a huge Hiccstrid person. Like, dynamic-without-romance wise, I like the stages of their HTTYD1 dynamic the most, I like the camaraderie they have for most of the tv show(s) as partners, and for dynamic-with-romance I enjoy HTTYD3 the most for them. Like they make sense together, they're cute, I don't ship them with anyone else, and I think they balance each other out really well, but they've never been a HTTYD dynamic I've been particularly invested in (that goes to Hiccup&Toothless, Hiccup&Snotlout, and Hiccup&Stoic / other platonic and familial pairs). Romance has never been an important part of the franchise to me, so having an episode focused on romance for them and problems in their relationship to boot was just... not it for me

2) On that note, "Mi Amor Wing" did make me salty because it made the first spoken "I love you" in the franchise romantic and between Hiccup and Astrid. I absolutely fucking ADORE that in the entire trilogy, the only "I love you" is platonic and is between Hiccup and Toothless (as it should be, tbh - that's what the whole trilogy and esp the final film is all about: "[...] the love of my life. But with love comes loss. Sometimes it hurts, but it in the end it's all worth it. There's no greater gift than love").

3) It felt like a shoehorned in conflict for this late in their relationship. Like Astrid being bummed that Hiccup is too preoccupied to pay a lot of attention to her? Idk if it'd get her that bothered (unless it was longterm) but I can buy it - in the first few months of their relationship, maybe. Not when they're engaged to be married, and not to the degree that Astrid almost breaks off the engagement over it. It just felt pretty juvenile and a bit forced/dramatic, particularly when "friends first lovers second" and 'non traditional' romantic relationships are refreshing and what I like most in ships in general, which is too bad, cause typically Hiccstrid feels pretty mature in how they handle each other and their stuff. If it had been earlier on / they hadn't been engaged I probably could've bought it more, but if you're thinking about marriage, I expect a couple to typically have more of their shit together, y'know?

#thanks for asking #hiccstrid critical #I GUESS? it's not not favourable just wasn't an ep that worked for me #anonymous #non tdp

[local-dragon-haunt]

Im thinking about how horrifying the ending of THW is purely from an ecological standpoint.

Like the Hidden World is so isolated. It’s gotta have a perfectly balanced ecosystem to survive. If you stuff every single dragon into that fragile system it is going to self-destruct.

Not to mention that their diets are mostly carnivorous, so they’re going to have to leave anyway to go hunting, at which point the prey is going to catch on because there’s going to be so much of it and move further from the Hidden World, and the dragons will follow them lest they resort to cannibalism.

And that’s not to mention if, say, a disease raked through it?

God I’m so angry. I’m so pissed. The only way for this to work is for the Berkians to monitor them Park Ranger Style and by doing that they'd have to frequent THW, which no longer makes it a hidden world. One wrong person stumbles across the only exit to it by watching them, and it’s all over.

#thw #how to train your dragon the hidden world #critique #how to train your dragon #hiccup haddock #toothless #hiccstrid #hictooth #thw criticism

[howtodrawyourdragon]

Okay, but now I need everyone who was salty about THW's ending to watch The Nine Realms, it is honestly healing. Because not only is TNR implying that Hiccup and his family came back to this world, but they're also saying that:

They spent a lot of time here, considering that Hiccup has described one of the other realmS further away from where their entrance was.

They had a home amongst dragons.

They were accepted by dragons.

And the other Riders were potentially there as well, considering the fact that Hiccup described all his friends in the same book that described the other realm.

And then there's also this:

Dragon Club finds Hiccup's prosthetic leg. And both as a disabled man and with how accident prone this man is, he would not just leave a disability aid behind. Not even a spare! Them finding that leg is potentially implying that Hiccup kept coming back, probably stayed at some point, and lived out the rest of his days with his Bud.

#thw salt #httyd 3 criticism #tnr spoilers #the nine realms spoilers #tnr #the nine realms #hiccup haddock #astrid hofferson #hiccstrid #zephyr haddock #nuffink haddock #the haddock-hoffersons #snotlout jorgenson #fishlegs ingerman #ruffnut thorston #tuffnut thorston #hiccup and the dragon riders #toothless #hicctooth

[commonblackbirdxx]

Heya, Written by the victors is back for chapter 2.

Crossover between httyd and rotg.

Pairings: Hijack, Hiccstrid (past)

Alternate History for httyd where the dragons did not go into hiding and that dragons coexist with humans in modern society. The guardians of childhood need to seek out a group of elusive autumn spirits to gain information on Pitch and his allies.

Chapter 2 summary:

Jack and the other guardians try to make sense of Man in Moon's message.

While a certain someone reads a news article about themselves.

1,000 years of history: Emperor Hiksti Hræðilegt Haddock III under the lens of modern pop culture

Roughly 1000 after his death, Emperor HIksti Hræðilegt Haddock III remains one of the most relevant and influential figures of history. From being the social pariah of his tribe to becoming an emperor, his story had captured the hearts and imagination of countless people.

With Nowflix announcement of creating a live-action series about the emperor and his dragon riders. The Daily NIghtfury recount how pop culture portrayed the emperor Hiksti Haddock III in the last 300 years.

How to train your dragon series (1704) by Cressida Howell

300 years later, Cressida Howell’s ‘How to train your dragon’ is still influential in how pop culture view the emperor. As one of the more popular children’s books in the North and South America, it ignited an interest about the life of the late Hiksti Haddock III.

Charming, dutiful, sarcastic and slightly awkward. The Hiskti Haddock III from ‘How to train your dragon’ (1704) by Cressida Howell is an adventurer and an engineer who wanted to explore the world and just happened to be a very endearing character. Originally released in America as a children’s book, it was a breath of fresh air compared to the gritty portrayals of the emperor in a serious and dramatic historical novel of Europe in the late 1600’s and early 1700s. It was released in Europe 5 years after its American release with mixed reviews from European critics. Though a century later, Europe have warmed up to the slightly whimsical portrayal of the emperor.

Where no one goes (1806) by Richard Broom

Introduced in 1856 to a polarising audience, it goes against the common depiction of Emperor Hiksti as a charismatic military commander in a dramatic historical novel full of glory of the war. ‘Where no one goes’ simply portrays King Hiksti III as a man in his 30s and so full of melancholy, unlike the popular novels which focused more during his youth and great battles he fought and less about his older self during the time of peace. Battle hardened and weary, ‘where no one goes’ depicts the brutally of war as the now adult King Hiksti recounts his youth. Of sleepless days where he dreams of enemy soldiers who burned to death by dragon fire, his question of morality as he builds another weapon of destruction and in the end of the novel ends with the emperor longing for the simpler times of his youth.

Highland seas series (1989) by Rachel Brook

Derided by the critics as a shallow bodice ripper novel, nonetheless it managed to have a dedicated readers to become a series. Set in an alternate universe where Hiksti Haddock III did not become a king and instead became a runaway before the final test against the monstrous nightmare, he finally become an adventurer he was meant to be. Readers have bemoaned the lost potential of the novel, setting aside the wonderful worldbuilding from the first chapters to focus on romance and softcore porn.

The Great King (2007) by Hiksti Blackwood

‘The Great King’ by Hiksti Blackwood took Emperor Hiksti’s steady image and shook it to its core. It’s a historical novel about Emperor Hiksti Haddock III but also works as a study on childhood and coming of age in medieval society, child marriages and traumas of war.

#how to train your dragon #httyd #frostcup #hiccup haddock #hiccup x jack #hijack #jack frost #my fic #written by the victors

[lisasmind]

Johoo, saw your post and just had to follow you you seem awsome

Question: do you have any criticism to race to the edge, if so what? I find it very fascinating to see different people’s opinions on the series

heyyy thanks for the follow! i’m glad you like my acc!

before i say anything, PLEASE DON’T TAKE MY OPINIONS SERIOUSLY! i’m coming to y’all mostly in a joking tone like it’s all chill. i like the show and enjoy watching it but yeah without further ado!

rtte. when i was younger i had a love-hate relationship with it. there were many things i didn’t like but i kept watching cause we still had a long wait for thw and i NEEDED httyd content. of course there were things that i liked but yeah.

rewatching it now, i realized i might’ve been over exaggerating! to be fair, i’ve always been a dramatic person so there’s no surprise in that.

there are still things i’m iffy about.

- first off, hiccup and toothless’ relationship. to me, toothless seemed more like a pet than a best pal to hiccup. like toothless was usually in the background for the majority of his screen time. they did have their moments like in dire straits, enemy of my enemy (i think … but i can’t recall well), and triple cross, but that’s pretty much it.

- heather’s whole storyline. it was good in the beginning but wow they just really let go of her character. like she had SOOO much potential and she was well liked within the fandom. i would suggest watching this video on youtube:

it pretty much wraps up all my thoughts on her.

- DAGUR! SHOULDVE! STAYED! DEAD!

and if they weren’t planning on killing him off THEY SHOULDNT HAVE MADE HIS “DEATH” SCENE SO TRAGICALLY BEAUTIFUL CAUSE NOW WHAT EVEN IS THE POINT

- hiccup was not supposed to see the ice spikes! again, 18 year old hiccup was NOT. SUPPOSED. TO SEE. THE ICE SPIKES! why? because 20 year old hiccup has NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE!

- heathlegs. i’m sorry but i know a lesbian when i see one.

- this one i won’t get too worked up on cause i know the writers have said a few times hiccstrid was not going to be the main focus of the show (and tbh, as a hiccstrid shipper … thank god), but i wish their development from the friends to crush to lovers stage was more noticeable. to me it kinda just felt like BOOM! hiccstrid together!

at least the kisses were good. no no. the kisses were EXCELLENT! PURE CINEMA!

- listen i know they were in a time crunch when netflix just threw two more seasons at them, but johann? really?

- ASTRID NOT GETTING HICCUP A FAWKING MAP IN SANDBUSTED!

and that’s all i can think of for now, but all in all i love this show. i literally used to sit and wait for the seasons to come out at 3 AM MY TIME!! like this was my teenhood! i went to school sleep deprived for this shit so don’t you think for a second that i’m coming from a place of hate or ungratefulness.

i do have positive things about rtte but i’ll save that for a different post (also i plan to rewatch each episode one by one and make a tumblr post of my thoughts cause why not).

anyways thanks for asking this!

#httyd #astrid #hiccup #hiccstrid #httyd 2 #httyd 3 #httyd thw #rtte #race to the edge #snotlout #heather #tuffnut #ruffnut #fishlegs

[falseren]

fantasy arranged marriage au falseren (based after my favourite arranged marriage hiccstrid fic) in which the elders arrange it for the sake of alliance/ politics. false is displeased that she's going to marry some random guy who's probably an egotistic asshole until she's told that she's marrying ren, someone she actually got along with when they spent time as kids dragged along to meetings. because she remembers ren as being kind and silly in comparison to the other boorish, arrogant heirs. and everyone around her is like "false don't worry, you're intimidating and strong and an accomplished warrior, you'll totally boss him around, he'll crumple like wet paper in front of you, he'll do whatever you says, you're totally winning in this union." false considers her options and thinks this could be worse. as a kid ren for whatever reason was keen to impress her and liked her a lot, so she assumes he'll still have an okay impression of her as adults. and she's like "okay maybe we can be civil and work together". and everyone around her flatters her like wowwww you're sooo cool false there's no way he won't want you and btw he probably had a crush on you as kids and she's like. wait. what

so false goes to the wedding feeling nervous but pretty okay because this could be worse and she retains the impression that ren likes her and wants to impress her. BUT then she actually sees ren. ren who is a sweaty nervous wreck and looking veeeerrry anxious and pathetic. they get to talk and it's AWKWARD but false decides to be nice and strike up a friendship. but before she can say anything, ren immediately jumps in with a rambly

"i'm sorry i didn't want this either i asked for a non-marriage alliance but the elders made me do it i don't want this and i'm so sorry maybe we can get this annulled—"

and false, who'd thought ren was at least okay with marrying her, is suddenly mortified by her assumption. her ego gets critically hit. he doesn't want to marry her? when she's strong and capable and smart and a good fighter?? oh? oh??? he hates this alliance? he hates spending time with her? he HATES her?????????

false feels so offended by this that she doesn't try to act nice and coldly goes "glad we're on the same page" (they're not) (they're really not) (she feels awful that she assumed he liked her even if just on a surface level) (and hurt that she'd made peace with the alliance and was kinda looking forward to getting to know him and he's not reciprocating)

in reality, ren thinks false is super duper cool and awesome and she doesn't deserve to be chained to someone like him, and he's certain she'll find him weak and useless and clumsy and hence she'll hate him. so with these assumptions, he decided to jump the boat and pacify her by saying he didn't want this, because of course false would loathe being stuck with a loser like him, of course she hates this entire affair, and she'll be better off if this never happened. and ren thought false would feel relieved to hear that he didn't want this (he actually did kind of want her compared to the other options because he thinks she's amazing but his own insecurity kicks him in butt, and he's scared she'll think he's creepy). but false is aloof and ren is like. ah. i was right. she's PISSED that she's getting married to ME. she HATES me. deserved. tbh.

so it's like awkward miscommunication and ren going ";-; i'm not good enough and she hates me ;-;" and false going "how DARE he hate me!" but secretly they're both like "whyyyy won't they like me as much as i like them :("

#sillies :] #fuck. this got so long #arranged marriage aus my beloved (consequences of being into hiccstrid) #arranged marriage au

[manawari]

Hiccstrid-Rayllum Parallels (3/?)

— Callum and Astrid being in a critical state while Rayla and Hiccup are desperately worried.

#the dragon prince #how to train your dragon #race to the edge #tdp #httyd #rtte #tdp callum #tdp rayla #hiccup haddock #hiccup horrendous haddock iii #astrid hofferson #callum #rayla #rayllum #hiccstrid #hiccstrid-rayllum parallels

[e-wills-afterhours]

Vetrnaetr, Chapter 7

A/N: Another new chapter of Vetrnaetr! Sure, it's been like...a year. That's fine. It's fine. Everything is fine. I feel like I've lost my touch a little--but it is fine.

Chapter 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6

Rating: 18+

Pairing: Hiccstrid, Affairs AU

Start from the very beginning here.

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Of all the wild animals one could domesticate, dragons had to rank among the best in terms of versatility, companionship, and absolute undeniable badassery. The near-exclusiveness Berk enjoyed with the beasts was a thing of envy--and a secret closely guarded lest they welcomed war upon their island. A small, rather reclusive tribe of Norsemen with an army of obedient dragons at their disposal would raise a few eyebrows and undermine regional stability. They would be a threat to squash. Berk's greatest asset could easily be its undoing, should it inspire a covetousness in their enemies and fair-weather allies--and Chief Stoick considered all their alliances to be tenuous and conditional at best.

Astrid was glad that the threads of fate sought fit to place her on Berk. Her life, a mess though it was at the moment, was made rich by Hooligan culture now steeped in a fierce love of dragons. Once, the flapping of great, leathery wings and overhead shadows brought fear and death. Now, she hardly noticed a low-flying Gronckle, and dodged the Terrible Terrors that scurried underfoot with practiced ease. Berk used to be a place painted with ash and flames--but as the sun rose high over the island, her village seemed vibrant with colorful dragons at every turn.

Stormfly's unwavering loyalty was a great comfort amid the chaos of holiday busyness and faltering relationships. Astrid could not imagine life without her dragon, though such a life was all she had known a few short years ago.

But that was a whole different world that was slipping from memory, like the last vestiges of a nightmare broken up by the bright, new day.

Morning flights, evening flights. They still cleansed the soul, a respite for the mentally and emotionally laden.

The chill in the air, high among the clouds, was nearly intolerable. Astrid's teeth chattered and she shivered beneath her thick layers of wool and furs. Her fingers were numb in seconds, but her dragon's cries of delight were worth it as they took to the sky. Stormfly was nearly sing-song as she rolled over the waves and glided on the air currents, spotted wings outstretched like a great, scaly gull. In a couple of months, the dragons would leave Berk during their annual migration to warmer climates to breed. Astrid could not blame them. When winter was in full swing, she wished to join them. Instead, she counted down the days until they returned.

Astrid closed her eyes, breathing deeply, lungs filling up with icy salt air. It stung a little, but it was more freeing than the smoke from the hearth and sewing by firelight under her mother's critical eye. Indeed, flying in the bitter cold and biting wind was preferable to cooking under scrutiny, hoping to earn passable marks and an afternoon's reprieve from mandatory lessons in domesticity. For some reason, her mother seemed to suffer the delusion that she could fix her relationship woes with a hearty stew and needlepoint. Maybe perfecting her homemaking to the same degree as her combat skills would make her irresistible--a wife to be desired.

How laughable, when she did not want to be solely valued for such things.

"Go, Stormfly! Go!" she shouted, nudging her dragon into a sharp dive., the rush of frigid wind drowning out her thoughts.

Thunderdrums could be seen just below the surface, their spots peeking in and out of the tide, drawing ever closer. Such reckless flight and freedom sustained the troubled heart--Hiccup has shown her that. Astrid whooped, tears streaming from wind-battered eyes as they rushed toward the waves below.

Sometimes, she wondered what might happen if her dragon did not pull up at the last moment, skimming the white caps with her claws. If they kept diving, plunging into the depths, might they puncture the veil and end up somewhere else; a place where she could chart her own future without everyone else's input? She supposed such a place was for dreams: the impractical desires of youth that eventually crossed over into fond memories of a still wild and untamed imagination, before things like responsibility and duty beat it into submission.

She closed her eyes, sitting up in the saddle. With outstretched arms, it felt like she was flying, fast and low, and far away.

Peace. Finally, she was at some small semblance of peace...

"HELP!" came a scream over the roar of the ocean, piercing her reverie.

Astrid pulled back on her dragon's reins, and Stormfly came to an abrupt stop, hovering in midair as she glanced around wildly.

"HELLO?" she called back, reaching for her axe. Maybe, just maybe, she could put it to use for the first time in ages.

But she saw no one else among the stacks, other than the plump grey seals sunning themselves on the rocks scattered at the bases. The only answer she received was the squawk of the coastal birds going about their business, riding the air currents.

To her right was an inlet, cliffs sharply rising on either side of the mouth Agmundr's Sound. She and her father would take many camping trips there in her childhood, where she first learned to fish and to sail. Now it was a popular location for Berk's youth to spend an afternoon on the beach, away from their parents and responsibilities. It was also a fine place to strip down to one's undergarments and ride the Scauldrons that nested there in the summer, when the water was warmer, and the days were long.

The desperate scream echoed through the air once more, and this time, Astrid was certain the source was somewhere inside Agmundr's Sound.

She steered her dragon into the deep, broad divide that Odin cleaved out of Ymir when he fashioned Berk and all the world to his liking. Stormfly flew low as they searched the length of the sound, her reflection keeping pace on the gentler waters below. Fir trees lined the cliffside, but nothing stood out. All she could hear in the distance was the call of Berk's resident Timberjacks.

Maybe she had imagined someone calling for help? Perhaps stress was getting to her? She was about to call off her search, resigned to the notion she had misheard--when there, on the shore where the two cliffs diminished into rolling hills and met, she saw a great scar in the earth. At its end, was a familiar black dragon--and Astrid's heart skipped a beat. Toothless stirred up all kind of feelings by association, and she could not leave him in distress.

Stormfly landed gracefully on the beach, taking care to avoid the deep trench that had been gouged there from a rough landing. The black dragon's rider--the mystery screamer--also became apparent. Fishlegs sputtered, brushing the cold, damp sand from his cloak while Toothless growled at him--one did not need to speak dragon to understand the gist of the Night Fury's frustrations, and what he wished to communicate.

"I'm sorry!" Fishlegs pleaded with the dragon. Toothless was not the least bit sympathetic, turning his back to him in an indignant huff.

"Are you alright?" Astrid asked, dismounting.

Fishlegs gave a start. He had been too busy arguing with the disgruntled Night Fury to notice her arrival.

"Astrid!" he exclaimed, face brightening at once.

He trudged over to her, trying to shake the remaining sand from his clothes.

"Maybe you can talk some sense into him," Fishlegs whispered, jerking his thumb in Toothless's direction.

Astrid surveyed the scene: filthy clothes, a great plowing of the earth, and one bent tailfin.

"Did you crash?" she asked, though it was plain.

"It's not my fault!" Fishlegs cried. He hurried over to the Night Fury and pointed emphatically at the complex flying apparatus. "I mean, what?"

Astrid folded her arms beneath her cloak. "Didn't Hiccup leave you instructions on how to work it?"

"He did," Fishlegs replied, pouting. "They made a lot more sense on paper."

Astrid frowned and walked around Toothless, examining the intricate feat of seemingly impossible engineering that Hiccup made appear effortless. Toothless flashed her a gummy smile, tongue lolling out the side of his wide mouth. He began to wiggle with anticipation as she circled him.

"I don't think you've busted it beyond repair," she said, and Fishlegs breathed an audible sigh of relief. "But I'm not the expert in these things," she added.

His face faltered. "You're not going to tell Hiccup, are you? He'll be so mad!"

Astrid crouched down to hold up the tail fin, the most medial piece of ribbing bent at an odd angle. "Somehow, I think he'll notice," she replied flatly.

Fishlegs groaned, gripping his short, choppy hair. "He's never going to trust me with Toothless again!"

Astrid stood up, hands on her hips. "Don't take it personally. He doesn't trust anybody with Toothless. Not really."

"He trusts you."

Astrid remembered the days when Hiccup was still healing from his duel with Stefnir, arm in a sling. He offered her his good hand and brought her over to an impatient Night Fury in his complete rig. She had been confused; Hiccup had agreed not to fly until he was sufficiently mended--but he stepped aside so she could climb into the saddle instead. With patience and calm, he taught her each position of the tailfin until she could shift gears fluidly.

Then, he took large steps back as Toothless unfurled his wings, and said, "I trust you."

It must have been killing him inside to let go and grant her access to the final, most personal part of himself--but he exuded nothing but warmth, looking at her astride his dragon like she held his world together.

"He did trust me," she muttered to Fishlegs.

"He does," he corrected with an encouraging smile.

Outside of Toothless and Astrid, Fishlegs was Hiccup's closest friend. Perhaps he had found time to confide in the other boy between talk of dragons.

Astrid shook her head, heavy with self-pity. "Well, I've gone a made a mess of things, haven't I?"

Fishlegs was nodding along until pinned in her gaze. His eyes widened, and shifting awkwardly he said, "Oh! That wasn't rhetorical?"

She sighed. "Never mind. It's not anything I don't already know."

They stood in a heavy silence with the dragons considering them. puzzled. Fishlegs looked pained, like he had something to say, burning his throat, but something held it in. Or he wanted to vomit. Honestly, the expression was about the same.

Astrid waved her hand, dismissing the thought on the tip of his tongue. If some secret lingered there, entrusted to him by Hiccup, then she did not want him to be tempted into betraying that trust. Fishlegs was a good friend, but it did not take much to pry confessions from him--and Hiccup was already frustrated with her, plenty enough.

"Tell you what: I think Toothless can still manage to get home, though it won't be fast or with flourish. I will fly him for you, if you agree to fly Stormfly back to Berk for me," she said, patting the Night Fury.

"Thank you!" he practically cried with relief.

Even Toothless perked up at the prospect of flying with someone competent.

Stormfly crouched down and Fishlegs clambered up into the saddle. He struggled for only a moment, used to a dragon much closer to the ground. Astrid mounted Toothless and hooked her foot beneath the connecting peg for Hiccup's prosthesis. While it was built for him alone to operate smoothly, she could manage by flexing her foot to pull the peg up into position or rest her foot atop it to press it down. By no means was it a fluid process. She could not shift gears in that seamless way only Hiccup could--but she managed. At any rate, she was adept enough to fly Toothless safely home from Agmundr's Sound.

Stromfly stretched out her wings, ready to push off from the beach, but Fishlegs hesitated.

"For what it's worth," he began, "I've never known Hiccup to be happier than when you two are together. And--"

"Thank you, Fishlegs," Astrid interjected, "But you don't have to--"

"It will work out for you. It has to." He paused for a beat, then added, "I think he loves you too much. He doesn't talk about anyone else the same way."

Astrid did not say anything. Her eyes stung, and she told herself it was simply the cold wind channeled through the sound that also tossed her loose hair about. Fishlegs smiled, looking pleased with himself, as if his words alone would set things right.

"Just put Stormfly back in her stall, please."

"You got it!" Fishlegs replied, and Astrid watched him take off above the frosted trees.

She did not think it possible, but her heart ached all the more.

------

Hiccup was overjoyed to be leaving Helgafell at last. He had grown weary of snow, rock, and bare trees. As miserable as the journey home would be, captive on a boat with nothing to look at but his burly tribesmen and a vast expanse of rolling gray sea, each hour would bring him closer to home, to his own bed, belongings, to Toothless--and to Astrid.

The words of her letter, and that implicit ultimatum of hers, were branded on the forefront of his mind. He was a flurry of emotion to match the winter storm that blew in that morning as they packed up. No one asked, but he had to seem more distracted than usual. As he helped load their ship, he was equal part angry, anxious, and lovesick. He wanted to see Astrid, but dreaded the confrontation it would bring. He wanted to resolve their issues, but feared the implosion of their relationship if he said the wrong thing--and lately, it seemed every word he uttered was the wrong thing. He wanted to make her happy, get back what they had worked so hard for, but he did not know how to be anything other than himself; it was quite the conundrum.

"That's the last of it," Stoick declared, as the small crate of their rations was carried onboard. "Are you ready?"

Hiccup nodded, stepping onto the gently rocking ship.

As the rest of the crew followed behind him, he took one last glance out at Helgafell. The frosted temple towered above the dwindling tents. With camps being dismantled left and right, the island looked even smaller than it had before. The mysterious volva wandered among the stragglers, offering them any herbs and psychedelic fungi that might make the journey home more bearable.

Hiccup would've purchased the bunch if it could erase his memory the trip and the things he had learned. He could still smell the blood of the sacrificial animals and hear the resigned groan of dragon before it died. The distant stare of the volva haunted him when he closed his eyes.

They shoved off, and he felt a weight lifted. From the moment he had set foot on Helgafell, there had been an oppressive and ominous energy, as if he was one faux pas, one misstep from bringing hostilities on Berk. He played his part, the dutiful heir. While the island began to fade in the distance, shrouded again in fog and snow, Hiccup's heart was burdened by the realization that he would continue to play the part until it became the reality of him.

He sighed, leaning on his elbows set upon the starboard gunwale. Their ship ploughed through the waves, and he watched the sea ebb and flow, beating against the hull before exploding into briny mist. The deck creaked beneath familiar footfalls approaching him from behind, trying to be softer than their capacity.

Stoick cleared his throat, but it was unnecessary.

"With the wind on our side, we might see Berk half-a-day earlier than planned," he said, large hands coming to rest on the same faded red gunwale supporting his son in his best attempt to appear casual.

"That would be nice. Lots to do before Vetrnaetr kicks off, I guess?" Hiccup replied.

He pretended it was not so amusing to see his father's impressive red beard dancing about in the wind, catching snowflakes.

"There is, but I suppose Spitelout has seen to most of the preparations."

Hiccup nodded and the two of them gazed out at the ocean, churning and reflecting the dreary sky as if one might bleed into the other. His father was watching him out of the corner of his eye as he so often did.

"I know you did not enjoy the trip," Stoick spoke up after a very pregnant pause.

"Maybe it was all the talk of funding wars through trade or watching that dragon die such a pointless death for the sake of a man's ego that did it."

"I hope you realize how important it was all the same."

Hiccup straightened up, wrapping his cloak more tightly around his body.

He merely answered, "Yeah."

'"The world is a lot bigger and more complicated than you realize," Stoick said, patting him. on the shoulder.

Hiccup scoffed. "Bigger, I knew. Complicated? I think I already knew that too. But I didn't know how ugly 'complicated' could be. I am naiver than I thought. Or maybe I just convinced myself it would always be someone else's problem."

Stoick considered him, brow heavy with pity. "There is more to being the chief and keeping your people safe and provided for than what can be taught on Berk alone."

Hiccup sighed, and gave another, "Yeah."

Stoick gripped his shoulder turning him until they made eye contact. "You are the future, Hiccup. All of Berk's hopes rest on you. I know that you are up for the task."

Hiccup only ever shrank under his father's lofty expectations. That unearned, unrelenting pride shone down upon him was uncomfortable, and he was meant to carry it without complaint, without faltering. He could not meet his father's glowing stare.

Glancing down at the deck, he muttered. "I wish I was as sure as you."

Stoick did not waver. "There will come a day when you will be."

Hiccup had to turn away, and gaze back out at the ocean. he assumed his previous position, leaning thoughtfully against the gunwale.

He responded with a noncommittal, "Mm."

As Stoick walked away, satisfied with his final word on the matter, Hiccup reached into his cloak and took out the pendant he bought on Helgafell. He turned the cold metal over in his hands, studying the dragon there. The more he looked it over, the more he was certain the extra set of wings was not just the error of an unskilled craftsman.

"What kind of dragon are you?" he murmured, tracing over the image with his thumb.

-----

Sneaky returned home in the middle of the night. He was unscathed, as Astrid knew he would be. Hiccup would never have let any harm befall the little blue dragon, no matter how hostile toward dragons Helagfell might be. Perhaps it was a good thing she was only half awake to greet Sneaky, or the full weight of the notion that her lover had read her letter would have crushed her. She fell back asleep, Terrible Terror curled against her side, while vaguely aware of the uncomfortable squirm in her gut.

The next morning brought with it the full realization that an argument was heading her way, sailing home in two days' time. She tried to stay busy to stifle the dread. Maybe there would come the favorable resolution Fishlegs promised--but she did not want to suffer the heartache and pain to earn it. Hiccup was not often angry. Even rarer still was his fleeting foul moods directed at her. She's rather take a dozen blows to the gut than see those green eyes of his glare back at her with bitterness.

The prospect was enough to drive her mad, and she needed a steady stream of distraction.

She spent the next couple of days alternating between flying Stormfly in the mornings and flying Toothless in the evenings; Gobber straightened out the bent metal rod of Toothless's fin in no time at all. She did not mind caring for the two dragons, because it was a valid excuse to keep her out of the house, her mind of more pleasant things. Nobody questioned her with the Night Fury. In fact, the whispers and sidelong glances decreased when she was with her boyfriend's dragon. Astrid caring for Toothless seemed to be more right with the world than leaving him in the care of Fishlegs. To be close to the Night Fury was to be as close to Hiccup as she could get in his absence. Toothless also seemed fond of the arrangement, nothing but smiles and boundless energy for her. She wondered if he would put in a good word for her with Hiccup.

But alas, when she was not with a dragon, her mother kept her occupied with chores. That afternoon, she was hanging the laundry in near the hearth to dry as her mother boiled carrots, potatoes, and onions for the lamb her father was roasting over the fire behind the house. Meat could not be left unattended for long, lest Terrible Terrors make off with it. Sneaky was particularly skilled in this brand of thievery. Her father always had some choice words.

She had just poked her head outside to check on the lamb roast at her mother's behest, when a long, low, horn bellowed over the village.

"Chief Stoick is back!" she heard people call out. "They've all come back from Helgafell!"

Astrid froze. She met her father's eye. He stared back at her, knowingly.

With a small nod of his head, he told her, "Go on."

She spun on her heel and took off toward the docks, heart racing. Her cloak was left hanging on its peg by the door, but she did not notice the cold. People stood, waving at the ship as it pulled in, and Astrid weaved around them. She stopped short of running out ahead, slowing down to remain among the first row of onlookers.

Spitelout was there to catch the thick ropes thrown over the side. He and Silent Sven worked together to secure the mooring. Gobber and a couple of other able-bodied men received the items that were being unloaded and handed off to them: tents and the remaining rations, most likely. Perhaps even some exotic goods procured by trade?

Astrid imagined what might be found at Helgafell frozen shores: furs, metals, weapons, and wines--all things could promise a fun time during a harsh Norse winter.

Then Stoick disembarked, followed by Hiccup, and all daydreaming evaporated. Spitelout and Gobber pushed themselves to the forefront of the crowd and engaged the Chief in talk of festival preparations at once--what had already been accomplished and what was left to do. Hiccup had barely taken a step before he was rushed by a group of children: the newest of dragon-riders from that year's Selection ceremony--all excitedly shouting over each other about tricks they had learned, and new skills acquired. Hiccup smiled as they tugged on his cloak and his hands, all vying for his attention.

"Wow, really?" he said above the noise, to no particular child. "You'll have to show me."

The gaggle of his adoring, miniature fans all continued to talk at him unintelligibly, until someone called out," Night Fury!"

The mob of small dragon riders scattered with shrieks as a big black, scaly mass tackled Hiccup flat, onto the dock. Stoick, Spitelout, and Gobber reflexively stepped aside without as much as a hitch in their conversation. Toothless was all wiggles and aggressive nuzzling as Hiccup tried to sit up and catch the breath knocked out of him.

"Toothless! Toothless! Stop!" he insisted between laughs, trying to push the enthusiastic dragon out of his face, if only for a moment to collect himself. "For Odin's sake!"

As he sat up, the dragon let out a groan and rolled onto his back, exposing his belly. The children giggled at his antics.

"Oh! Is this why you missed me?" Hiccup teased, scratching Toothless's throat before moving over his chest. He adopted a tone reminiscent of how one might speak to a baby. "This is really why you missed me, huh?"

Toothless's tongue flopped out of the corner of his mouth and one of his hind legs kicked in delight.

"He really did miss you," Astrid spoke up, finally. She smiled despite their fighting. Her boyfriend's relationship with his dragon was endearing and infectious.

Hiccup glanced up, startled. His face faltered, and he scrambled to his feet. "Astrid! I, uh...I didn't see you there."

"Well, it is kind of hard to see anything else when Toothless demands attention."

He wouldn't meet her gaze. "Yeah. Right."

The uncomfortable silence that settled between them was disturbed only by a few sparse snow flurries, and the creak of the dock beneath Toothless as the dragon rolled onto his feet.

"I got your letter." Hiccup said, and Astrid felt the anxious twist in her gut. His Night Fury nudged him in the elbow, demanding his attention.

Facing him had not been so agonizing since that night on Dragon Island when they both were at their limit and had nothing to lose--that argument had a desirable ending. Perhaps, with the proper time and free of distractions, they might go two-for-two.

"Look," she began; and now she was the one who could not quite look him in the eye, "We need to talk. Badly. We've been open with each other before, and--"

"Are you guys fighting?" one of the children spoke up, loud and insistent.

Astrid gave a small start; she forgot they were there and desperately wished they weren't. Now, she was all too aware of the many eyes on them both, with rapt attention for a conflict they could not possibly understand. She frowned, and seized the rude child's helmet from his head, flinging it down the dock so he had to chase after it.

"Heeey!" some of the other kids obnoxiously cried.

When Astrid turned back to Hiccup, smug, he had already climbed into his saddle. Toothless unfurled his wings.

"Hiccup, wait!" she pleaded.

But he either had not heard her over the rush of his dragon taking flight, or at that moment, mending the hurt was not his priority. Either possibility left her standing there, watching her boyfriend and his dragon disappear into the low-hanging, dreary clouds as if she had not sought him out at all. The children wandered off, disappointed and suddenly uninterested in whatever transpired between lovers--boring and unknown things the future held for them too, but far beyond their capacity to care.

The wind picked up and the delicate snowflakes tumbled and twirled with renewed fervor. A shiver rattled Astrid down to her bones, and she held tightly to herself, painfully aware of just had cold it had become.

#hiccstrid #hiccstrid fic #affairs au #long fic

[howtowhumpyourhiccup]

Just a Kid - Just a Kid Part 3

Chapter 37 - Amputation

@evilwriter37@firerose

Summary: A Httyd Zombie AU set in the modern world. There are dragons.

At 15, Hiccup believes his biggest struggles are teachers who won't stop hounding him for his grades, a father who doesn't quite listen to him, or how unpopular he is at school. Every regular teenager's worst nightmare, right?

But then a new and mysterious illness that's been rapidly spreading amongst the populace takes a surprising turn and the day comes Hiccup wishes his former daily struggles had been the only struggles he would have to deal with.

He is, after all, just a kid.

Warnings: Amputation, blood, medical whump, medical inaccuracies

Rating: Mature

Words: 134

Fandom: How to Train Your Dragon

Characters: Hiccup, Toothless, Astrid, Snotlout, Hookfang, Fishlegs, Meatlug, Ruffnut, Tuffnut, Barf and Belch

Pairing: Hiccstrid

Author's Notes: ONE MORE! ONE MORE CHAPTER! JUST ONE MORE! EXPECT IT TOMORROW!

And now, onto Pain the Chapter!

Constructive criticism is appreciated.

Enjoy!

#httyd fics #httyd movies #httyd #how to train your dragon #rob #riders of berk #dob #defenders of berk #au #alternate universe #modern au #zombie au #apocalypse au #zombie apocalypse au #hiccup haddock #toothless #hicctooth #astrid hofferson #hiccstrid #snotlout jorgenson #hookfang #fishlegs ingerman #meatlug #ruffnut thorston #tuffnut thorston #barf and belch #hiccup and the dragon riders #my fanfics #jak #just a kid

[laughingwith-bluelips]

In this moment of my chronological httyd rewatch ™ I think its ok yo say this:

I have watched rtte before and I disliked it

This was in 2020. I was very much mad because I already watched thw an though why would I watch this if I know how this is going to end all the way through the series. Also, at that time I had only watched some snippets of RoB/DoB on public television when I was a kid, so my distorted perception reality was convinced that those series were better. And I mean, sure they're good but I don't think that anymore.

I don't remember the later seasons bc I was mad. I resented HTTYD as a whole because they gave us a shitty finale and I wasn't buying any content from the DreamWorks franchise.

I read the books, on the other hand, and I did the worst I could do: I compared them to rtte. And that made the series feel even worse.

Anyways, this year I decided I wanted to watch it again. You know, many httyd content in social media and specially that Audrie Greywind video where she talks about Hiccstrid for about 5 hours. I realized i hadn't watched most of RoB/DoB so my opinion on that wasn't accurate. And RttE. Well, I don't remember most of the later seasons so, yeah, I needed this rewatch.

And, 4 seasons in, I love it. I found myself loving these episodes, caring about the characters and loving the most intrascendental things. Like, one of my favourite episodes now is Gruff on the edge and I don't think it has any impact on the season. I just like it.

I think quarantine me was right to be mad, but rtte doesn't have the fault of what happened in THW. I won't forget my criticism of my first watching, I think it's an important first reaction, but I know I was wrong for judging the series in base of other products.

Someday soon (sorry, uni still exists) I will start the last two season. And man, I feel nervous if I haven't watched then before

#httyd #how to train your dragon #httyd books #httyd dob #defenders of berk #rtte #httyd riders of berk #chronological httyd speech

[fanfic-lover-girl]

Feelings on HTTYD 2

So I just finished watching httyd 2 with a friend and I thought it was great! Not as good as the first one but I enjoyed myself. I had some issues with the movie so let me summarize what I liked and did not like about it.

What I Liked

Hicctooth - Toothless and Hiccup continue to be amazing together. Such a great friendship bond and they were so cute! The moments where Toothless was fed up with Hiccup were gold.

Stoick - This man was such a badass in this movie! Great fight scenes and his rescue of Valka and sacrifice for Hiccup were so well done. His bromance with Gobber was A+ and I love how he has developed as a father. He seemed even more protective of Hiccup in this movie compared to the first movie. It was actually kind of sweet. Also, his romantic dance with Valka was such a joy to see. Seeing Hiccup happy to see his parents together made me so happy too.

The villain - Drago was pretty entertaining as a villain. I wouldn't call him the best but I thought his design was cool. I think he was a decent villain to challenge Hiccup's naivity.

Toothless and Stormfly - These two had such fun scenes together. I smiled whenever they interacted. So cute! I just really liked Stormfly in this movie, such a good girl. Her bond with Eret was cute.

Toothless and Cloudjumper - These two were so funny. Cloudjumper had annoyed big brother vibes going on lol.

Music - Once again, the music captivated me in this movie. I love the HTTYD movie end credits songs! It makes me feel nostalgic.

Character designs - Liked most of the character designs. Hiccup looked good of course and Snotlout surprisingly looked great too. I liked the greying beard on Stoick.

Eret - I felt so bad for poor Eret. I think he was an interesting addition to the cast.

Friendship of the teens - I liked the interactions among the 6 teens/young adults. I wish the whole love triangle thing was less cringe though.

What I Did Not Like or Felt Neutral About

Hiccstrid - I have seen from Hiccstrid shippers on Tumblr that the second movie is the basis for their love of the ship. And at the end of the movie, I was struggling to understand why? I liked the initial Hiccstrid cliff scene for the most part but the ship was basically irrelevant for the rest of the movie. If you take out Hiccstrid, nothing changes really. There was hardly anything interesting about this ship. Felt so generic. And honestly, this ship feels very one-sided. It's all about Hiccup but what about Astrid? What does she get from this relationship besides the clout of being a future chieftess? And Hiccup's tendency to rush off into danger?

Astrid - Not sure if I liked Astrid's design in this movie. But more importantly, I was disappointed by Astrid's character. My friend agreed with me that Astrid was just there. Her only purpose in this movie seemed to be to give Hiccup his mandatory pep talk and to anger Drago to prematurely attack. When Astrid kept yapping about Hiccup's greatness, I swear I was dying on the inside. Astrid was important in the first movie but httyd 2 solidified her status as a pretty love interest character. Her dragon Stormfly seemed to have more going on in this movie. Astrid was just meh. All she is now is just Hiccup's girlfriend.

Valka - Maybe if I watched the movie without knowing about Valka, maybe I would be more neutral about her. But I don't like her. She's a deadbeat mom. Her reasons for abandoning Hiccup were so flimsy. Stoick, for all his flaws, was learning to be a better dad and I am so sad that Stoick will not get to see Hiccup grow as a man. Valka does not deserve the privilege that's for sure. I must also say that she did a crap job at advocating for peace. Sure, argue for peace while your village is under attack! Makes SO much sense. What made her believe dragons were good anyway?? I wish Valka was the movie villain. Or at least an antagonist.

Toothless - For the most part, I enjoyed Toothless' interactions with Hiccup. But he seemed way too playful sometimes? I don't think he should have been so relaxed with Valka since she attacked them. I miss the Toothless who was aggressive with strangers. Also, I find it strange that Toothless did not know how to expand his spines. He's a wild animal and wild animals should have instincts about these things. Finally, as cool as that super saiyan rage mode was at the end, I still want to know where this power came from.

Ruffnut - I hate how Ruffnut looks. She was pretty in the first movie and she also looks pretty in the ROB show. I don't know why her older design has to look like this. She looked especially repulsive when she was hitting on Eret. I kept asking myself why the scriptwriters did this? Why make her look so gross??

Hiccup's inner conflict - I thought the introduction of Hiccup's mom felt way too forced. The whole spiel about not knowing who he is because he does not know his mom made me so confused. In the first movie, Hiccup hardly cared about Valka. There was not even a throwaway line like 'No one in Berk gets me...but maybe mom would if she were here'. Why the sudden interest??? I also think Hiccup's struggle with his free spirit desire was poorly handled. Plus, I don't understand why Hiccup got the idea that his job was to be a peacekeeper?? Peacekeeper for who?? We don't even meet other tribes! I am sure this attitude is addressed in the shows but it makes little sense to me. How do you go from making peace with dragons to being a peacekeeper of the archipelago? And what leadership did Hiccup showcase to Valka for him to deserve the 'heart of a chief' line??

These are my main takeaways! Despite the shortcomings, I did like the movie. Sigh, now it's time for Hidden World.

#astrid hofferson #hiccup haddock #stoick the vast #toothless #valka haddock #stormfly #eret son of eret #ruffnut thorston #drago bludvist #cloudjumper #hicctooth #hiccstrid critical #astrid critical #anti valka #httyd 2 #how to train your dragon 2 #httyd 2 criticism

[smallfrogpleasedtomeetyou]

It’s going to be a fic and some of the characters may seem under developed at first it’s because I want to build them and not have them confined to “helpless princess” or whatever lmao

Belle: Astrid

“Beast”: Hiccup

Gaston: Eret son of Eret

LeFou: Gustav

Miss Teapot: Heather

Chip: Dagur

Chadswick: Tuffnut

Cogsworth: Fishlegs

Belle’s Friend: (hear me out) Snotlout

(O/c?) Castle Staff: Ruffnut

Before you ask, yes I can explain them. (And am open to constructive criticism)

———

So the main ship would be hiccstrid and while hiccup isn’t a “beast” per say the difference is,

“the chief had made a horrible mistake. He had tried to cut down a light fury. She was freyja in disguise and cursed all the riders (except Astrid and snot loud tbe later) as kids to be trapped in a castle (where they befriended dragons) until someone could learn to love a dragon AND the chief’s son genuinely…” (not the light fury trying to get hiccup a date lol)

snotlout is the best friend and only friend of Astrid and he likes hearing her tell him stories and they protect each other like siblings! Especially against Eret son of Eret, the self proclaimed “promised child” of berk. Man picked up a sidekick (Gustav) and is trying to get Astrid to marry him lmao

also the relationship between heather and David would be brother and sister, not mother and son.

the second ship would be a bit of a slow burn rufflout that comes to fruition by the song “evermore” or “tale as old as time”

the village plot is to “kill the beasts” they’re after all the dragons in the castle but mainly Hookfang and toothless because of their species…

I chose cogsworth for fish legs for obvious reasons, being very smart and mistrusting of Astrid and her nature at first but eventually warming up to her.

and tiff it as Chadwick…. I mean COME ON! Man is dramatic as shit! Also the whole “be our guest song with him singing it is just… *chef kiss* (ha I’m funny)

oh and valka is kinda x-x

but hey! She can still talk to him! Through a life sized mirror!

I’m also thinking about giving Eref a last minute redemption arc at the very end… when a certain rumblehorn saves his life…

so anyway… that’s my idea lmao

oooo i love that idea actually, the riders just getting trapped in a dragon-infested castle while astrid and snotlout try to figure out what is going on

also my boy eret being a bit of a cocky bastard with gustav running around behind him is so funny to me (I hope u go with the idea of a redemption arc cos he really would need it lol)

this has a lot of interesting ideas to play around with especially for all the character dynamics (ahhhhhh I cant wait for the dynamics (can you tell))

im really excited for this now i cant wait for you to start posting it :)))))

#i will forever love retellings of old stories #httyd #thanks for the ask <33

[oseytorvan]

Hi, do you have any hiccstrid fanfic recommendations? One's that are similar to HarryPanthers "Behind the Mask"?

Hello, my first anonymous! :)

Do you mean which Hiccstrid fanfictions I recommend and is there "Behind the Mask" among them? I never made friends with English language so I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. In any case, you can always send me a rephrased question.

Unfortunately, I find it very difficult to please in terms of fan fiction, especially when it comes to the relationship between Hiccup and Astrid. I am quite critical of many stories about them, both by someone else's authorship and my own. This does not mean that most of the fanfiction on this pair is bad. On the contrary, many authors wonderfully prescribe the characters of Hiccup and Astrid, understand the relationship between them well and raise really important topics. Here are some of them:

Read the warnings carefully before reading these stories. I'm serious. There is nothing more important than your mental well-being

Heavy Heart by Blue_Plasma_Blast (x)

Braids by orphan_account (x)

Future Daughter-in-law by clehjett (x)

No Matter What by Nightstar_Fury (I liked this story until the author started beating Camicazi. This is not indicated in the labels, so I warn you myself)

An Anonymous Donor by funkytoes (x)

on creance by micromys (x)

Growing Pains by Greylin_R (x)

Boss Lady by Ephyla (x)

You should remember that I have recommended fan fiction that I personally like, and you have the right to disagree with me. Anyway, I really hope you enjoy reading these stories :)

As for HarryPanthers "Behind the Mask", it's just not for me. I really appreciate that the author does not use cliches in the style of "Hiccup is an outcast, Astrid is the queen of the school" and suggests that we look at these characters from the other side – at Hiccup as a rebel and Astrid as a nerd. I'm not at all against this approach, but I can hardly believe that Hiccup would laugh at Astrid, even if he was a rebel. This deprives Hiccup of one of his main qualities – mercy. Also, I don't see Thuggory as a bad guy – after all, it was he who protected the book Hiccup from the ridicule of the book Snotlout.

In any case, I like that the author made Dagur a bad guy - this role is very suitable for him. I like that the relationship between Astrid and Snotlout is healthier than in many other fanfictions – thanks a lot to the author for not reducing their interactions to "he flirts with her in the most idiotic way/she dismisses him in the most idiotic way." Also, I like that this is not a story from the category of "Hiccstrid for the sake of Hiccstrid" although there is nothing wrong with them either – the main characters have their own problems that they are trying to cope with together or separately. That's cool :)

Thanks for the question!

#hiccstrid fanfiction

[howtodrawyourdragon]

Updating a fic with Zephyr and Nuffink in it, so I had to look up their ages to make sure I get their age gap right, only to find that Dean initially said they were 8 and 5 respectively, (like I thought their ages were this entire time) but apparently, the script says they're 5 and 3? So the other ages are from Homecoming, I guess? Even though Homecoming is supposed to come before the epilogue? Because Toothless and the Light Fury visiting New Berk to get Dart and her siblings after they escaped is the entire reason Hiccstrid and the kids visit the Hidden World in the first place?

Also, Hiccstrid is 30 in the epilogue. Not 31 like we were told, which means the epilogue takes place 9 years after the dragons left and not 10 like Dean and such said in interviews had specifically about the epilogue.

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[reallyprofoundkryptonite]

Do you have any RTTE criticisms?

Do I? Yes. Absolutely.

And it has to go with how the writers handled their characters that weren’t Hiccup and Astrid. And while I’m completely happy with how long the series was, I feel like there would have been more room for intense characterization of more minor characters, (hell, even some of the gang were completely swiped by the shortness of the series.) as well as getting to know more about the world of httyd, filling in the plot holes at the end of the series, like Valka popping in at the last moment to take the egg (which her bewilderbeast had been ruling for two decades according to the second movie, and there was no sign of another bewilderbeast besides Valka’s and Drago’s in the second movie.), and just… general ways in handling certain characters redemption arcs (or lack thereof.)

For example, with the redemption arc of Dagur, I absolutely feel that it was too rushed, and that if we’d have been given more time, the redemption would have taken longer to happen. And Hiccup’s reaction to Dagur deserting was kind of… underwhelming? I suppose? Hiccup has never exactly been very confrontational, I suppose, but there’s also the added statement that the way Hiccup handled the Dragon Eye and Viggo’s tribe would have been out of character for him on that statement, considering the fact that he vehemently denied to give back a resource that clearly belonged to someone else, and then clearly wanting it back. (But you have to build drama so I suppose it makes sense?)

But also, the characters besides Hiccup and Astrid- there was just too much Hiccstrid in the entire show. I get that’s what people like, but especially in Mi Amore Wing there was just so much unnecessary Hiccstrid drama that seemed so out of character and forced by the directors- Astrid isn’t necessarily the jealous type- and to feel Jealous about Dagur and Mala? (Don’t even get me started on how foul that ship is; not dunking on anyone who really likes it, but it’s just- feels very forced and went way too fast to happen realistically.)

Let’s not forget the handling of Ruffnut and Tuffnut. They’re both very entertaining characters, yes, but Ruffnut gets not abject character development outside of her brother, and somewhat vice versa for Tuffnut. And T.J Miler’s portrayal, while funny, I have to admit, just makes the twins seem like too much of gags and “Buffoons”, than actual characters.

Now… I’m going to get into other small topics- Krogan. Handling him in the show must have been somewhat of an afterthought (though the way his body language, outward personality and so forth are all done extremely well by the voice actor and animators to portray a pretty accurate, albeit very much less seen in media victim of abuse and sufferer of depression and anxiety, as well as maybe even Stockholm Syndrome.) If we were given more time during the show for characters like Krogan, or Ruffnut, or Mala- Hell, even Johann and Viggo, we as an audience would be able to get a better grasp on their motivations and their real ideas for being where they are.

And, another thing- Krogan and Drago are the only real villains (besides Ryker), to not be given redemption arcs, and they’re both noticeably foreign and not from the archipelago. With Krogan being a most definite black man, and Drago being more ambiguous in his race, but maybe(?) middle eastern. It’s sus, if I’m going to be honest, and pretty racially charged that two characters who are not white are not given the same treatment as the other white villains. (Also let’s not forget that Johann is also an anti-Semitic caricature of a Jewish person, and that he’s portrayed as being a greedy, money hungry villain, who just wants fortune and cares for no one but himself.)

The series overall, is great- wonderful even, but it’s the handling of characters, and (mild) racism for me that kind of makes it a little worse, in all.

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