#giovanni borgia

[dailyborgia]

Amen.

#tvedit #perioddramaedit #theborgiasedit #the borgias #rodrigo borgia #lucrezia borgia #cesare borgia #vannozza dei cattanei #giulia farnese #giovanni borgia #tusereliza #userhayf #zanisummers #tuserlou #userfish #userclayy #userhann #tuseraixa #userzaynab #ours #by tha

[earlgodwin]

David Oakes really played Juan so flawlessly. his expressions, his sass, his beauty, his feistiness...he was literally so entertaining to watch. I will never get over how David captured his devilish charm perfectly.

#david oakes #juan borgia #davidoakesedit #juanborgiaedit #theborgiasedit #the borgias #the borgia family #perioddramaedit #perioddramasource #perioddramacentral #periodedits #perioddramagif #gifshistorical #dailytvfilmgifs #mensource #tvedit #giovanni borgia #text post #by jen

[isabelleneville]

#the borgias #theborgiasedit #perioddramaedit #holliday grainger #Lotte Verbeek #jeremy irons #Joanne Whalley #lucrezia borgia #Giovanni Borgia #giulia farnese #rodrigo borgia #Vanozza Dei Cattanei #my edits #caps #borgiascaps #dailyborgia

[stromuprisahat]

Love how in third season Micheletto just sort of became Giovanni's unofficial babysitter and everyone's totally cool with it.

I guess his master already proved he can take care of himself, so he's free to pursue his less obvious talents...

#The Borgias #03×01: The Face of Death #rewatch #Micheletto #Giovanni Borgia #Cesare Borgia #V

[annalisalanci]

#StanleyWeber #Stanley Weber support #Giovanni Borgia #morte di Giovanni Borgia #storia #cultura #buio e luce #arte #recitazione #Youtube

[teecupangel]

Another Desmond reborn as X, but this one is as Uberto Alberti's kid. Who we don't know anything about but "family" is the reason he betrayed his friend supposedly so I'd be interesting if Desmond could try and avoid it this time around.

According to the transcription of Uberto’s database in ACII:

Now, I found a backdoor into the Templars' database server, I've been combing it for some kind of smoking gun. I found it. Apparently, Uberto's family was evicted by the Medici bank. Uberto's been aching for revenge ever since, and the Templars promised him support. Ezio's father was standing in the way AND Uberto was jealous of his influence over the Florentine government. Two birds with one stone, isn't it? It looks like Uberto used his election to the Signoria as his opportunity to strike.

Apparently, he joined the Templars because the Medici evicted his family.

If he is part of the real House Alberti, there is no mentions of any evictions in wiki nor any mention of an Uberto. The Albertis were allies of the Medici as far as I read.

Returned to Florence, in the 15th century they were first allied to the Medici against the Albizzi. Main members of the period include writer Antonio Alberti, cardinal Alberto di Giovanni Alberti and architect and Renaissance theorist Leon Battista Alberti.

But wiki did say that they “divided into different lines, who owned several houses and towers near the modern Ponte alle Grazie” and “Some of them were admitted in the Venetian nobility late in the century” so maybe Uberto’s family wasn’t one of those few fortunate Albertis to gain nobility.

So, really…

Giovanni died and dragged his two sons with him because of his ties to the Medicis.

And Desmond would point that out.

In this setup, Desmond would probably think of Uberto as a good father as he did stress he did it for his family (although another setup is that Uberto is using the whole “I’m doing it for my family” to hide his greed and thirst for power but that would be a bit boring so we’ll go down the ‘a good man wishing to avenge his family’s misfortunes’ route instead).

So Desmond would want to protect his new family (especially if he has younger siblings). When they get evicted, Desmond understood why Uberto did what he did. Maybe add in the drama of the eviction being all of a sudden or not given any warning before they were evicted during a time when Firenze was having ‘money problems’.

Desmond knew that the Templars would contact Uberto then and tried to stop Uberto from saying yes to the Templars but he’d say that this was their only choice if they wish to protect their family.

(If you really wanna drive in a conundrum, one of Desmond’s siblings or his mother falls ill during this time and the financial support the Templars gave them is what kept them from dying or maybe said mother/sibling was already ill and almost died had it not been for the Templars’ money)

In the end, Desmond tries to leave the Auditores alone but, instead, Ezio found him and started to talk to him. Desmond couldn’t help but form a bond with Ezio anyway, maybe become a close friend who doesn’t really like to be seen with others.

Ezio knows Desmond spend most of his time caring for his ailing sibling/mother, and he remembers Petruccio so he has a soft spot for Desmond.

Anyway…

Uberto still becomes a Templar and Desmond tries to undermine him, first by trying to save the decoded message that Giovanni needed but that failed because Uberto knew that Desmond was trying to stop him so he’s become more ‘suspicious’. He never scolds Desmond though and he understands what his son is doing so he tells Desmond to continue to try and stop him…

“This way… no matter which sides wins, our family will be safe.”

And Desmond realized then and there that Uberto was ready to die if it meant their family would be safe and financially secured.

In the end…

Desmond helped Giovanni, Federico and Petruccio escape by unlocking their cage and telling them that Uberto’s a Templar. Desmond begs Giovanni to not kill Uberto, that he’ll be able to make Uberto understand that they have failed and they’ll leave Firenze, hell, they’ll leave all of Italia, just…

“Please… don’t kill padre.”

Giovanni promises not to kill Uberto if they leave Firenze as soon as possible.

And Desmond is able to persuade Uberto to do just that, telling him that revenge means nothing if it would lead to his death.

.

Now.

The happy ending would be that Desmond and Ezio would see each other and there will be this strain in their friendship because of Uberto’s betrayal that they will slowly get past.

But…

The more angst-filled route would be…

Lorenzo wants all the conspirators of the Pazzi conspiracy to be killed and Uberto was one of them. He orders Giovanni to kill Uberto and Giovanni tried to say no, at first, only to acquiesce once Lorenzo reminded him who he was ‘allies’ with.

Desmond finds an Assassin standing in front of his father’s bleeding corpse and the darkness and his shock made it hard for him to see the Assassin clearly.

All he knows…

… was that the Assassin was wearing Ezio’s robes…

.

.

In this setup, Desmond would be torn between wanting to take vengeance or being the person to cut the noose of revenge that keeps looping and looping around all of them.

His trust in the Auditores would be destroyed and Desmond would want to believe that it wasn’t Ezio, that maybe it was Giovanni or even Federico but a part of him would whisper that it could have been Ezio. Ezio wasn’t there when Desmond begged for his father’s life.

Last time he saw Ezio, he was wearing those robes…

And Desmond can’t…

… will not kill Ezio even if a part of him wished to avenge Uberto’s death.

They had no reason to kill him.

His family had exiled themselves away from Firenze, living as normal farmers of all things.

He…

He needed to know the truth.

And, once he knows it…

That’s when he’ll decide how to end this chain of vengeance.

With blood spilled… or not.

#it’s giovanni #giovanni’s the one who killed uberto #but desmond can’t be sure #his grief and desire for answers and vengeance is messing with his eagle vision #ezio has no idea that his father killed desmond’s father #federico told him desmond saved them and talked his father out of this entire thing #ezio misses desmond #but he also knows it’s better if they don’t see each other anymore #ezio and giovanni are wearing similar robes #too similar that desmond’s vague bleed memories think they’re the same #i don’t know what else to add #uuuhhh #lorenzo is just trying to avenge the death of his brother? #i guess? #no one is absolutely evil in this one #no #desmond won’t be a templar #his hatred for the borgias would not allow that #ask and answer #assassin's creed #desmond miles #ezio auditore #fic idea: assassin's creed #teecup writes/has a plot #uberto alberti

[brother-emperors]

it's. augh. so 15th century cardinals functioned as princes of the catholic church, for diplomatic reasons, right. but there's a weird. theological space. happening. that makes me go 😬 with some of these guys because it's like. so a family marries off one of their sons to the catholic church, and they do it because its a good political move, to make sure that one of their sons is in the jaws of the vatican, because that's where the wider political theater is playing out. it's a good idea to have a representative of your family and your regions interests attached to the body of the pope. it's a good idea to have a son in the vatican in case something happens with the main family back home, one last hold to power. I'll go into this in more detail at a later date, but as a snapshot of proof that I'm not making up poetic sounding phrases re: referring to cardinals as princes of the church:

The Social Background and Education of Cardinals, Maria Antonietta Visceglia

so!!! the thing is! when you marry off a son to the catholic church, they're married to god's vicar on earth, so the pope demands their allegiance first because your loyalty should go first to god (in actuality it's the pope bc the catholic church is a political court etc), and now it's all a mess.

anyway! giovanni colonna! is he praying or is he trying to figure out how to talk his way out of this mess? who knows! maybe both!! if I think too much about how his family sided against the the pope after giovanni was made cardinal, and how giovanni had to defend himself saying that he wasn't responsible for the actions of his family, but it didn't work out, so he was imprisoned and then jailed in the castel sant'angelo (do you ever think about how rome is a jail. like, rome is a jail, the vatican is a prison, you have to live in this place because a cardinal out of rome is like a fish out of water, but at any given moment, it can also become a cell, so really rome and the vatican are a mouth and its asking you to walk onto it's tongue) for a year. he was ~26 when that went down!!!!! I'm trying to imagine navigating that at 28 and it makes me want to walk right into the ocean and not come out of it.

#killing rodrigo borgia with my mind every day #stop fucking over everyone who got you elected!!!!! #(clears throat) anyway. #catholicism is 80% cannibalism. because of the imperialism. and rome. #the ~ is because apparently his birth date is a little iffy but at least it's not orsini with his 'before 1450' or whatever that was #giovanni colonna #i. need to come up with a century specifier for some of these guys #there are so g. colonnas that i Dont Care For #italian renaissance tag #drawing tag

[thewingedwolf]

that poll is crazy i am dead serious about borgias being superior, jaime abandons cersei at the FIRST OPPORTUNITY to DIE IN A TRIAL BY COMBAT and go play house with brienne in the woods meanwhile cesare murders BOTH lucrezia’s husbands AND their brother who also wants to fuck her, just completely abandons his wife to be with her, FUCKS HER IN HER BED ON HER WEDDING NIGHT, not to mention her bastard isn’t as deranged as joffrey so CLEARLY even if cesare isn’t the dad to baby giovanni he is the uncle dad that stepped UP and jaime can’t even raise his own fucking kids!!!! INSANE YALL DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT MARRIAGE IS!!!!!!

#cesare & micheletto start a minor war to reunite giovanni & lucrezia WHAT HAS JAIME DONE FOR CERSEI BESIDES BE A MENACE #THEY ARE THE UNHOLY FAMILY!!!!!!!!! #ONLY A BORGIA CAN LOVE ANOTHER BORGIA. CLEAN AND BLOODLESS AND MINE!!!!! #rani makes text posts no one will read #the borgias

[elelandia]

Cesare - Il creatore che ha distrutto

Quando avevo circa vent’anni o poco più (quindi l’altro ieri) arrivò in fumetteria un Manga strano, dalla copertina completamente bianca. Il proprietario del negozio me lo consigliò, anche se erano usciti solo i primi due volumi all’epoca e io accettai con piacere. Il manga era Cesare – Il creatore che ha distrutto, e ci ho messo solo una decina d’anni a finirlo tutto. Più o meno lo stesso tempo…

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#cesare Borgia #comics #fumetti #Fuyumi Soryo #Giappone #Giovanni de medici #kodansha #libri #manga #seinen #star comics

[ihavemanyhusbands]

CESAREEEE YESSSS GET HIS ASS!!!

#finally we are RID OF GIOVANNI SFORZA!!!!! #the borgias #cesare borgia #giovanni sforza

[portuguesedisaster]

Hell, Assassin's Creed Lineage is something, isn't it?

#especially after knowing what happens afetr #assassins creed #also his relationship with Ezio #Giovanni you're doomed by the narrative #assassin's creed lineage #fuck you Rodrigo Borgia. my least favourite Borgia. and tbh the least interesting

[earlgodwin]

"In none of the numerous despatches of the day is this suspicion mentioned, although in a private letter of Malipiero's, dated Rome, June 17, 1497, and in one of Polo Capello's reports, allusion is made to the "rumor" regarding the criminal relations of Don Giovanni and his sister. Could the fact that Lucretia never engaged in any love intrigue—at least she is not charged with having done so—with anyone else, when there were in Rome so many courtiers, young nobles, and great cardinals who were her daily companions, have given rise to these reports? It is a fact that nothing has been discovered which would indicate that this beautiful young woman ever did engage in any love affair. Even the report of the ambassador, who, writing to Ferrara, not from Rome but from Venice, states that Lucretia had given birth to a child stands alone. She had at that time been separated from her husband Sforza a whole year. But even if we admit that this rumor was well founded, and that Lucretia did engage in some illicit love affair, are not these relations and slips frequent enough in all societies and at all times? Even now nothing is more readily glossed over in the polite world." — Lucretia Borgia, According to Original Documents and Correspondence of Her Day, Ferdinand Gregorovius (January 1, 1904)

#my girl lucrezia catching *those* allegations with both of her brothers cesare and juan (aka giovanni) #the way juan is overprotective of her like a feral attack dog awakes something in me #both of them are so hot together byeeee #lucrezia borgia #juan borgia #lucreziaborgiaedit #perioddramaedit #shipcestuous #cinemapix #tvarchive #perioddramasource #smallscreensource #perioddramacentral #the borgias #theborgiasedit #tvedit #tuseraixa #userlenna #tvcentric #by jen

[stromuprisahat]

Cesare: I promised my sister your heart- on a dinner plate! Cesare: *stabs Sforza in the belly* Sforza: Ahh! Ahh! Cesare: *keeps stabbing him in the same spot* Cesare: I can find no heart! me: Aim higher!

#The Borgias #02×05: The Choice #rewatch #Cesare Borgia #Giovanni Sforza #V #já a švábi #He's obviously no dottore. #MU rewatches TB

[annalisalanci]

#Stanley Weber #stanley weber support #Giovanni Borgia #I Borgia #buio e luce #buio e luce tra cielo e terra #cinquecento #rinascimento #storia #cultura #Youtube

[zalrb]

Haha, you mean another? Because I have quite a few.  

This is probably just going to be a repeat of a bunch of things I've said in previous breakdowns but now said in this specific context.

On one level, I think they respect each other because they're both Borgias, and they understand what that means and they love each other because of that and in spite of that simultaneously.

They've both had romantic interests who do not understand them and/or are frightened of them and/or resent them and their "Borgia-ness"

and I think they respect that they can be themselves completely and utterly with each other

because as they've seen, not everyone can handle a Borgia -- Cesare drove Ursula to the convent

and Lucrezia drove Alfonso to drink

both Paolo and Ursula end up dying because they fell for a Borgia whether directly (Paolo) or indirectly (Ursula).

But they have the will and the grit and the passion to accept and love and withstand each other and are not put off by what they do or how they act or how they think, they embrace it. Ursula couldn’t handle that Cesare killed her husband for her

Lucrezia accepts the knife with Giovanni’s blood on it

On a less abstract level but very much related to this, I think we see that Lucrezia respects Cesare's strength and his ferocity

From another post of mine:

[..] in the first scene they have together when Cesare is ready to kind of let Alfonso have it about whether or not he trusts Frederigo with the “future of his family” i.e. Lucrezia, before Alfonso reveals Lucrezia was the one who helped get Frederigo to where he is, she looks turned on

which is why when 3x04 happens, she's yelling this

all the things that she counts on, that she loves and that she respects.

And as much as his ambition can feel suffocating at times -- a Borgia trait

she respects it because it's also in her

and Cesare's respect, I think evolves throughout the series, which I've sort of spoken about in the first analysis I ever did of Cesare and Lucrezia where when we first meet them, I think he respects her innocence

he doesn't want anyone else to tarnish it, he wants to protect it because he respects its existence.

After season 1, after Giovanni, we see how that sort of begins to shift to respecting her will, respecting her decisiveness as we see in 2x01 when she saves Rodrigo, she took action, she saved their father

and by the end of season 3, when she poisons Alfonso and he realizes she can make these decisions, she can make these calls, he respects her ruthless kindness, he respects that she has the mark of Borgia same as him

all the while respecting her as this breath of fresh air and this light for him.

#cesare x lucrezia #lucrezia x cesare #the borgias #cesare borgia #lucrezia borgia #holliday grainger #francois arnaud

[perioddramasource]

He had an unfortunate accident. Cesare? No, Giovanni Sforza. the borgias 2.06 - Day of Ashes

#the borgias #borgiasedit #dailyborgia #periodedit #perioddramaedit #weloveperoddrama #tvedit #rodrigo borgia #cesare borgia #ours #*gifs #fish #blood cw #violence cw