#frogshowposting

[grendelsmilf]

amphibia was such a good show because for like most of the show, anne was the protagonist of a wacky family sitcom, marcy was the protagonist of a pg fantasy adventure novel, and sasha was experiencing unspeakable horrors somewhere in the corner of our field of vision

#frogshowposting #marcys journal was good i hope if they ever make like a graphic novel from sasha’s pov its R rated and she says ‘cunt’ #that person who drew the kurosawa AU gets it more than any other amphibia fan has ever Gotten it #100

[comradekatara]

idk if you’ve seen amphibia but one of the characters who was a villain and had a redemption arc ended up being a psychologist in the epilogue and i started thinking about azula doing something like that and find the idea fucking hilarious lmfao

okay there’s quite a bit to unpack here. first, I would say that while azula and sasha may have some things in common, if anything, sasha is far more like zuko in many key ways. and while I would definitely refer to grime as a redeemed villain, I don’t think sasha ever actually counted as a villain, but rather an antivillain if anything. she’s always been framed in a sympathetic light (she's literally introduced chained to the wall of a prison cell), whereas azula is initially presented as someone unquestionably powerful and fearsome, and only much later in the show are her vulnerabilities displayed.

sasha getting a psych degree and working with kids makes a lot of sense for her character, because a) it shows that she’s grown to prioritize helping others over having power, influence, and control and b) she’s providing for kids what she needed at that age, doing right by her younger self. so I really don’t think azula working to improve the way mental health is viewed and treated in the fire nation, especially when it comes abused children, is absurd or hilarious at all. I think it’s a lovely idea, and even if I can’t see azula being someone who works one on one with kids, I definitely think her using her influence and intelligence to make meaningful reforms in the fire nation that have personal value to her due to her own history, including but not limited to these issues, would be a crucial part of her postwar arc during and after her recovery.

#I Am Not A Sasha Apologist Because She Didnt Do Anything Wrong #fucking fight me #sapphikatara #asks #synthesis #frogshowposting #azula

[unidentifiedfroggy]

amphibia popped the FUCK off by making its main human characters all transgender

#transgender #anne boonchuy #sasha waybright #marcy wu #amphibia #froggy frogshowposts

[mossflower]

amphibia is actually peak representation. like who wasn’t part of a mildly toxic codependent friend group when they were thirteen and didn’t know they were gay yet

#aged 13 i would absolutely have done what marcy did if i had the chance. i think 13 year olds are just like that #amphibia #apologies for the frogshowposting on main it’s taken up residence in my frontal lobe and is refusing to leave #i say apologies. i’m not actually sorry

[sylsoddsandends]

I find it funny that so many of yall probably followed me for my frogshowposting and yall are still getting that but also you have to watch whatever other random stuff is currently on my mind

#syl speaks

[sashannarcy]

everyone litwrally shut up I'm back to frogshowposting

#hold on I'm havign a thought. #rambling

[grendelsmilf]

How would you give a brief summary of how Amphibia, intentionally or not, exhibits Marxist themes?

could you expand on the marxist allegory in amphibia?? from what I could tell it was your bog standard (no pun intended) "fight the power" cartoon plot. the most marxist adjacent thing I remember is that one hop pop gag, I'm interested to see what I missed

no offense guys, but im kind of amazed that anyone could miss such an unsubtle, crucial theme of the show??? and i really don’t think it’s unintentional. this is the same guy who wrote the episode of gravity falls (“the golf war”) about the exploitation of labor, that included one of the best lines in the show: “but isn’t that cheating?” “pacifica’s rich, mabel, she’s cheating at life.”

the world of amphibia presents us with three distinct classes: the rural workers who are the backbone of society (frogs), the police/military (toads) whose job it is to exploit the workers for the elites (newts) and crack down on any unionization efforts / solidarity movements among them, and the walled-off urban bourgeoisie in newtopia who benefit from the exploitation of the working class and their colonial enterprises. again, this really isn’t subtle!

as the daughter of thai immigrants who own a small business and rely on the support of their local community, anne is able to bridge the diasporic gap between herself and her parents through her experience as a total outsider in wartwood who ultimately builds a strong connection with her community and learns to take pride in her work of making and providing food. conversely, marcy’s role in newtopia parallels her experience as the daughter of upper middle class multiple generation taiwanese americans, thinking that she has fully established herself in this welcoming metropolis due to her hard work and intelligence, only realizing that she is simply another exploited pawn of the ruling class’s imperialist mission once it is too late.

back home, sasha used her whiteness to protect her best friend(s) from racism, as well as knowing exactly how to weaponize her pretty blonde girl privilege to get away with petty crimes such as vandalism and shoplifting, and (misguidedly, imo) assumes that her presence will automatically protect anne from getting in trouble as well. as a toad, sasha learns through her friendships across classes (anne and marcy are frogs and newts, respectively) that solidarity movements beyond the arbitrary class divisions designed to keep them in line while the monarchy profits are the only way to truly resist imperial conquest, that shutting down working class revolutions for the benefit of those imperialists is merely the illusion of having power. her first attempt at overthrowing the monarchy fails because she simply wants to replace the monarch instead of dismantling the system, but it is her resistance movement in which she allies herself with frogs, toads, and newts that she is finally successful in her mission.

yes, hop pop yells “eat the rich!” while dropping a guillotine, but it is his role as a farmer and the pride he takes in his work, his unfailing honesty and humility as a local businessman, the work ethic he instills in his grandchildren, the way he isn’t afraid to stand up against their greedy and exploitative toad mayor, and the way his resistance makes him the face of a revolution so existentially threatening to the toad order that they feel the need to execute him that makes him a marxist icon.

hop pop serves as a contrast to grime, a positive role model who demonstrates the value of honest work (even if anne never particularly takes to farming, she does clearly find value in making food for people, especially as a way for her to share her culture with others). grime on the other hand is a terrible role model for sasha, as he relishes in the privilege he does have through his exploitation of others instead of questioning his role in society and the ways in which he is exploited for the benefit of the empire. sasha is the one who teaches him about the importance of solidarity movements, while he encourages the kind of selfishness, greed, and violence that toads are taught to value.

when marcy meets hop pop, she already has an understanding that farmers are the backbone of society, the relational importance of the natural world, and the significance of community-building and worker solidarity in running a functional society, but she is also duped into overemphasizing her role as a single individual, which becomes her downfall. while she genuinely wants to do good for a world that has helped her, welcomed her, and shown her kindness, she has been taught to place too much faith in her own intellectual capabilities, and it is her mind that becomes exploited– and is used to exploit– for the purposes of the empire. marcy would never want to exploit the working class, colonize and destroy other worlds for their resources, destroy the environment, or use violence to keep people in line, but darcy, who uses her mind and body like a puppet, makes sure she has no say in the matter.

while andrias is the current ruler of amphibia (and mind you, his reign has lasted 1000 years), the core is the final boss to defeat because andrias is merely the figurehead of the empire, while the core represents Empire itself. (again, it’s literally called The Core! it’s not subtle!!!) while many people took issue with the seemingly simplistic way the final fight between the core and the trio went down, you have to remember that it’s ultimately a metaphor about the power of class solidarity against an imperialist legacy that would rather preserve its hollow illusion of greatness than actually serve the people who live there. the core can’t believe that anne would sacrifice the stones, the tool/weapon that allowed them to colonize other worlds in the first place, which they call “amphibia’s greatest treasure,” but anne reminds them (and us) that amphibia’s greatest treasure is not its capacity for power, but the people, the communities that have come together to support her and one another.

amphibia is a show that is fundamentally about change. ultimately, its intersecting discussions of class, race, imperialism, and resistance come to a head in the finale when the importance of embracing change is underscored not only in the personal growth and development of each character, but also in the way its characters (specifically anne) are unafraid to give up everything they know and love for the sake of revolution. make of that what you will.

#[banging pots and pans together] MARXIST TEXT!!!!! MARXIST TEXT!!!!!!! a #amphibia #frogshowposting #media analysis #ask #anon #pinning this . for reasons #100

[grendelsmilf]

i'm so mean about the owl house on here but i do want to clarify that i have seen the whole show, and i think it is cute and charming and has good politics and i'm glad children (including my brother, who really liked it!) have this to grow up to. i don't actually think that as an adult i have an obligation to like every piece of children's media i show to kids, or that as a lesbian i have an obligation to like every piece of "representation" we are given. this show is not for me, but it's still good for what it is, and deserved better from the network. i respect dana terrace a lot and think she did a great job with the resources and limitations she had. i enjoyed watching the show, and thought parts of it were even brilliant (eda's struggle with her chronic illness, the implications of christian missionary colonialism as being the original sin at the heart of the united states, luz's relationship with her mom, the collector as a villain along the lines of anthony in "it's a good life" by jerome bixby). the only reason i disparage it as often as i do is because i grew bitter over seeing how many people my age were genuinely fawning over this show and its largely shallow and cliched cast of characters. maybe i'm missing something and it simply never clicked for me (besides eda, who is the goat), but there was something very irksome to me about the way people compared it to its sister show amphibia as if it was the obviously superior child [of gravity falls]. amphibia may have been less plot-focused and less superficially compelling, but it was a show that truly understood its characters and took its time to develop them thoughtfully and carefully. luz noceda has nothing on anne boonchuy, amity blight has nothing on sasha waybright, willow park has nothing on marcy wu, gus porter has nothing on sprig plantar, etc etc. (ok fine eda clawthorne may have something on hopediah plantar, but i can't help loving disabled milves it's literally written in my contract!) so my point isn't that the owl house is bad (it isn't!), but simply that i found it somewhat hollow at its core. it was clearly a labor of love, and i have nothing but respect for dana terrace, alex hirsch, and the rest of the crew for making the most with what they had. so if you love it, more power to you! i wanted to love it so badly. anyway stream amphibia

#o.tv #frogshowposting #it's also just kind of fun to dunk on things. sorry

[grendelsmilf]

ppl were always saying that amphibia “needed to be more plot-driven” as if a slice of life sitcom about a talking frog farmer family wasn’t already a delightful concept for a children’s cartoon, but also the fact that the plot was slow and deliberate literally made it better. the more time we spent with the characters, the more the stakes felt actually tangible. the entire show was a character study, primarily of one very beautifully-rendered teenage girl who is wonderfully and realistically messy and lovable and human. tv these days is constantly incentivized to be more streamlined, as if the notion of actually utilizing its medium to its full potential by giving us real time to spend developing a given cast of characters is worthless. but tv doesn’t need to be more like film. it is its own medium with its own merits. amphibia understood the importance of taking things slow, a gentle pace, planting and payoff. the plantars quite literally understand the value of planting a seed and watching it grow. capitalism demands efficiency, constant production with no room to breathe. but amphibia is certainly not about the value of capitalism. it’s about farmers.

#frogshowposting #[cheering] Marxist text !!! Marxist text !!! #ppl who didn’t like the pacing in amphibia are crazy #it’s literally what makes it good #you wouldn’t get it. smh -_-

[grendelsmilf]

we literally had peak codependent toxic “she’s more myself than i am” yuri every week on disney fucking XD we used to be a real country we used to have anne boonchuy…….

#frogshowposting #sashanne is like if shaunajackie had swords i miss them so much z

[grendelsmilf]

hey anyone remember amphibia, the somewhat popular disney cartoon about 13 year old marxist revolutionaries, and also frogs, amphibia

#frogshowposting #just remembered it. alas

[grendelsmilf]

hot take but this was the worst thing sasha ever did/said in the show

#also the scene where i became a full time sasha apologist fr #amphibia #sasha waybright #anne boonchuy #sashanne #(toxic moments) #frogshowposting #fanart #o.art #''art'' . barely #drew this in 2 minutes

[grendelsmilf]

sashanne does anyone remember sashanne

#frogshowposting #we used to have REAL toxic yuri #on the fucking. disney channel.

[grendelsmilf]

sashanne was so crazy like. what if there was this white girl who was so obsessed with you that she tried to kill herself for you to forever change the trajectory of your life. and also that was your shadow self.

#and they’re in love #frogshowposting

[grendelsmilf]

In hindsight, I feel like frogfandom’s insistence on Sasharcy being an “obvious” ship was more a textbook example of fandom trying to justify ignoring the darker-skinned character. But then again, ship fan work including Anne wasn’t any better, since their approach was “replace her character/personality with every possible derogatory/stereotypical trope a female character could be written with”. Stuff like that left me baffled as to why people considered frogfans any more sensible than owlfans.

i never rly got why ppl cared abt sasharcy so much considering that anne is so obviously the best character. like i get why ppl say that marcy has a crush on sasha (she clearly does), but sasha was obviously in love with anne so like. either emphasize the love triangle or focus on anne, but excluding anne altogether never made any sense to me. i think ppl also just like "nerd/jock" dynamics, which is kind of stupid as well because the jock4jock excellence that is sashanne makes for a way more compelling relationship (that and the fact that, they're, you know, actually focalized in the narrative). but yeah it's crazy how much ppl refused to understand anne despite the entire show essentially being one big anne boonchuy character study. frogfans dumb as hell they're just less vocal than owlfans ig

#ask #anon #frogshowposting #their dynamic is fun but like. ignoring anne is a heinous sin imo

[grendelsmilf]

ok amphibia girlies + favorite shows.

anne and sasha have shows that marcy makes them watch (a lot of anime and sff) and then shows that they watch together, like suspicion island. i think they would be the perfect demographic for riverdale. they probably have very strong opinions on who is rory gilmore’s best boyfriend (sasha is team jess, anne is team paris). i think anne would really love the twilight zone, which she was introduced to via her dad. and you know that marcy is a narutohead she’s writing screeds about sasuke in the groupchat that anne and sasha do not actually bother to read. but sometimes they see him on a poster or something and they’re like “oh that’s marcy’s little faggot”

#ask #anon #frogshowposting #don’t ask me to elaborate btw i have never seen naruto #and yes they all have mid taste. they are 13 years old