#filter from the North to the South and the bulk of the battle is going to talk place there

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I don't want to imply only Arya antis think she'll go to the Riverlands first lol I'm pretty sure us Arya stans came up with the theory she'll reunite with Lady Stoneheart and give her the gift of mercy in the first place. Unfortunately though there are a lot of people whose speculation for Arya starts and ends at her killing people and disappearing off the face of the earth or realizing "revenge is bad" and then doing absolutely nothing afterwards. Though one thing I've seen very common with Arya antis is the idea that she'll effectually never reunite with any of her family members or identify as Arya going forward, either staying in the shadows or dying nameless or faceless without anyone recognizing her. That's a bit that worries me somewhat with her returning to the Riverlands first thing. Most Arya fans do expect her to be crowned by Lady Stoneheart and lead the BWB and Nymeria's pack up north but a lot of speculation from non-Arya fans ends up similar to Arya's reunion with Sansa and Bran in season 7; out of the loop, out of place, her journey treated as boring compared to the others, underwhelming reunions, conveniently out of the picture long enough so she can't ruin relationships that otherwise wouldn't happen with her present, secondary to Sansa.

One thing I think gets overlooked is how close Braavos is to Westeros. I've seen a lot of people act like Sansa in the Vale is a hop, skip, and a jump away from the Wall while treating Braavos like it's as far away as Meereen but they're actually about the same distance away. Braavos does appear to be perfectly placed if his original intent was for Arya to end up somewhere in the North, whether at the Wall, White Harbor, or even Hardhome.

But mostly I reject the idea that Arya will end up secondary to her brothers if she goes North. I have faith in GRRM loving Arya too much to ever treat her the way the show did in seasons 7 and 8. I think she has a role to play in the North considering how much of the Northern plots in ADWD are tied together with the "Arya"-Ramsay marriage and Jeyne. Stansas ASOIAF fans really believe that Jeyne will have absolutely no intersection with the person she's impersonating despite GRRM spelling it out that she's almost guaranteed to sail to Braavos for safety. It makes absolutely no sense to believe Jeyne would go to Braavos and never even encounter Arya. We also know GRRM intended for the Stark direwolves to go against Ramsay's hounds at some point in the future of which there's about nine named ones so far. Sounds like Ramsay will find out what wolves to do dogs ;) That may be enough to overwhelm Ghost or Shaggydog even if together but even a fraction of Nymeria's pack going north with her could handle them. I also refuse to believe Lady Stoneheart will die again before encountering a resurrected Jon. There's been rumors she and her men have been seen disappearing into the Neck which did lead to in book speculation the BWB has some contact with the Crannogmen. Arya can also be a bridge between Bran and Jon if GRRM keeps the estrangement between them.

And I really want Roose to find out he was in fact careless with a prize of great worth by not realizing he had the real Arya Stark under his nose in Harrenhal as his cupbearer lol. It'd be a shame if he died before finding out. But I do agree that she could go to either location and GRRM could make it work. I seem to remember jokes about GRRM being stuck because there are too many locations he wants her to be in lol.

I didn't think you were implying that, I just wanted to clarify that there were valid reasons for her heading to the riverlands and that I agree that some people only theorize that because they view the North as the most important location so they ignore her connections to it. I agree with a lot of your points and it's very frustrating that Arya's arc gets reduced so much because people refuse to see her as an important character. A majority of the theories surrounding her are the barest bones and people only expect her to leave the faceless men, kill [x] character, and then fuck off in a boat while her siblings (i.e. Sansa) carry the bulk of the Northern plot. The reality is that Arya's arc is difficult to predict because she has so many plot setups. There is an entire arc in Braavos waiting to play out, she has connections to the Northern plot, and she has plenty to do in the Riverlands. Arya is one of George's favorite characters and he's spent a lot of time developing her for a reason, so safe to say that whatever route he ends up taking it's going to be well-written and respectful to her character.

#ask #anon #arya stark #asoiaf #now me personally I do think there's a decent chance she goes North especially if she ends up meeting Jeyne in Braavos #she's going to be discovering that her identity was used to hold the North and of Jon's death which will most likely be her main motivation #for leaving Braavos which logically means she'll be trying to make it back North to Winterfell/the Wall #she could get knocked off course and that could lead her to go to the Riverlands that way #but either way she has plot connections to the North of her own and she would've have to take a backseat to her brothers #especially considering they're both currently dealing with their own arcs (well....Bran is anyways lol) #Rickon isn't a POV character so while I do think he's going to be important I don't see him as an obstacle to Arya being there #the beauty of George's writing is that characters aren't pushed to the side to make plots work the story plays out as it's intended to #so if George intends Arya to go North it's because there's room for her and she has her own role to play there #As always I think it's more likely she goes to the riverlands assuming we only have 2 books left because I believe the Long Night will #filter from the North to the South and the bulk of the battle is going to talk place there #and we don't really have time for Arya to got North -> South -> North but I'm always going to highlight her connections to the Northern plo

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Game of Thrones Season 7 Predictions

I'm on set and I'm bored so here, predictions I have for game of thrones season 7. I'll put why I feel like something's going to happen if there's something specific, but mostly it'll just be that it feels right. 

 The bulk of the season, I think, will be in 2 storylines, with smaller storylines filtered in. Then,1 other story and 2-4 wildcard stories in other places. 

Plot 1: the south--the war of the queens aka a song of fire. 

Dany has come to siege kings landing with her dragons. A lot of this story involves Tyrion and Jaime trying to outthink the others battle strategy. Now, kings landing is built to withstand a siege, but Tyrion’s been on the other side before, so he knows. 

 However, cersei doesn't have her reasonable people around her to stop her doing some pretty messed up shit, like closing the doors on the common folk (and she doesn't take precautions like bronn and tyrion did so they're kinda....fucked) and of course, using wyldfire and whatever nightmares qyburn can cook up...it'll be bloody. Jaime will try and stop her from doing the REALLY messed up shit as much as he can but...cersei has no fucks to give. 

On the other side of the war, I kinda want dany to be trying to help the citizens of kings landing as she goes. Also, I kinda want tyrion to ride rhaegal, but that might be too much to ask 

This will conclude with the penultimate episode where we'll mirror the end of the Targaryen rule. Cersei's about to pull a Hail Mary, something so messed up it'll pretty much nuke kings landing, maybe with her in it cause who gives a fuck. She also orders Jaime to go out and kill Tyrion (just like Aerys ordered Jaime to kill Tywin) before she goes off with Qyburn to nuke shit. Jaime will kill Qyburn, then kill cersei, and finally kill himself because killing the love of his life is too much to bear. In the process of all this the iron throne and the main hall might get kinda blown up. In the final episode, we'll have Dany in control of kings landing. Yayyyyy.

Characters involved: Dany, Tyrion, Missendei, Grey Worm, Varys, Theon, Yara, Olenna, Sand Snakes, Ellaria Sand, Cersei, Qyburn, Jaime, The Mountain. 

I'll be surprised if they live: Cersei, Jaime, Qyburn, The Mountain 

I'll be surprised if they die: Dany, Tyrion, any of the dragons 

Plot 2: the north--winter has come aka a song of ice 

While Jon’s dicking around taking control of the north, he comes to a scary conclusion: those dead south of the wall (who haven't been burned) are starting to come to life as ice zombies. Now, white walkers still can't pass through the wall, but Jon and his people better get to making some bonfires FAST. Cause like...all the people who died in the various battles up north are now fair game (including stannis.) 

Part of what makes me think this is that the whole reason melisandre backed Stannis is that she saw he had a part to play in the coming war, but she never actually saw which side he was on. Considering his living status, I'm prone to thinking the dead side. 

 Also, because there aren't any more main characters left there, I think all the nights watch are going to get wiped out, leaving the wall undefended. Oops. 

Meanwhile Petyr’s going to be spending his time trying to manipulate Sansa to betray her brother. However, Petyr’s laid out his cards to Sansa, directly telling her "I want to be king and have you as my queen." So, Sansa is actually manipulating HIM and manages to steal all his spies to her side (working through Brienne who is devoted to her). The absolute cherry on top is if she manages to learn about her warging powers (in the books, all the stark kids are wargs, but only Bran was trained.) and literally pecks Petyr to death with 'little birds.' Again might be too much to ask for. 

 Season finale, the wall is destroyed. More on that in a minute. 

Characters: Jon, Sansa, Petyr, Lyanna, Brienne, Podrick, Robin, Dolorous Edd. 

I'll be surprised if they live: Petyr, Dolorous Edd 

I'll be surprised if they die: Jon, Sansa, Lyanna 

 Now for smaller plots, going from most to least certainty

 Plot 3: oldtown--a song of history 

Samwell tarly will learn the ways of becoming a maester, but while there learn a dark secret. I'm not sure what it'll necessarily be, but I'm hoping we'll learn the answers to various mysteries, including: what happened to magic in the world before the dragons brought it back; what happened to Valyria; why was there dragon glass at the fist of the first men; what is the faceless men's agenda (in the books, the character known as Jacqen Hagar was also in oldtown, so I think we'll see him again; what was Jacqen doing that ended up with him in a cage on the way to the wall when Arya met him; what's the deal with Qyburn; what's the deal with Illyrio and Varys? That one could be a long shot; why the maesters are so out of touch and; what will the order of maesters even do now that SO MANY maesters are dead. 

In the end, I think something down there is going to be responsible for the wall coming down. Oops. 

Characters: Sam, gilly, baby Sam, Jacqen, maesters 

Any of them could die, but I hope Sam gilly and baby Sam will be okay. 

 Plot 4: a song of stone 

Jorah’s our first wildcard, in that I'm not certain where exactly he'll go. Something will prompt jorah into coming to westerns and, whoops, accidentally spreading greyscale to plague level proportions. I think this because Jorah has kinda taken the role of a character in the books, Jon Connington, and he's in Westeros with greyscale, so, Jorah will probably come too. 

This could intermix with either plot 1 or 2, killing off tons of people in kings Landing, or killing more people in the north who'll become ice zombies. My first thought was that actually greyscale would be responsible for taking down the nights watch, since Jorah’s Dad was lord commander he might go there, but who knows.

Characters: Jorah. It could go either way, but I'm voting closer to death. 

Plot 5: a song of vengeance 

As much as I'd love her to go north, I think Arya will go south and maybe intermix with plot 1. However, she might get caught up with another wildcard, I'll get to that in a minute. She might even meet up with her wolf she sent away, but I doubt it for the show. 

If she DOES go to kings landing, she'll be able to finish off her list, killing off Ilyn Payne or the mountain, hopefully at a crucial moment. 

 Characters arya. I expect she'll live. 

Plot 6: a song of brotherhood 

 Sandor Clegane’s still hanging out with the brotherhood without banners. So...I guess that's a thing. Might meet up with Arya. Might go down to Kings Landing, and kill his brother more permanently. This ones a big vague blur. 

He and all the brotherhood could go either way on the death thing. 

Plot 7: a song of the old gods 

Bran stark is basically going to become the old gods. Maybe not this season, though. He's probably going to have to deal with some of plot 2s shenanigans, but mostly dealing with more cool visions, maybe learning about stuff that Sam doesn't get to find out. A part of me wants him to meet up with Jon, but that could cause problems, given as Ned Stark’s only living son, he's technically heir. So....that's awkward. 

I do think he'll look back and accidentally be the one to drive the mad king mad. (Aerys was still a shit person who deserved to die). The reason I think this is Aerys last words were "burn them all." If Bran does the thing with him that he did with Hodor, while dealing with ice zombies, that might be a thing Aerys would be saying. 

Characters: Bran, Meera. I don't think brans gonna die, but if he does, he won't be "gone" necessarily. 

Plot 8: a song of the new god 

Melisandre A's been having kind of a crisis of faith, so I'm hoping we'll get to see her going through that. Hopefully she'll see things aren't so black and white. She could easily meet up with several of the wild cards, like, she told arya she'd meet her again...she could spend some time with thoros of myr in the brotherhood...she might even figure out the cure to greyscale with her fire and try to make up for the evil she's done (cough cough, shireen, cough), though it'll still kill tons of people. No idea if she'll live or not. So yeah. This got longer than I thought. 

In closing, characters I have no idea if they'll even be a part of things, but I'm inclined to think no??? Gendry, Daario...yeah, that's it. I suppose Gendry could be a part of King’s Landing tearing themselves apart.

Think they can fit all that in 7 episodes?

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