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queeranarchism · 4 years
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Hey! I saw your post about how hiveminds are represented poorly, where you then talked about how anarchists form a consensus among large groups. I was wondering how this process of forming a consensus typically works, because I always thought people did have a vote.
Most anarchist communities don’t vote. Because whenever we vote, a majority gets what they want and a minority doesn’t. And this could mean there is dissatisfaction, which leads to internal strife, anger, bitterness, mistrust. Or worse this could mean there is injustice when a minority doesn’t get the safety, resources, access, fulfillment, they need. And that’s not what we want. For many anarchists, voting is a tool of injustice through which minority interests are suppressed. Instead, anarchists use:
1. Consensus: decisions that impact everyone are made by using a variety of techniques to get to an agreement that everyone can agree on. Consensus processes often consist of small gatherings in which affinity groups and minority caucuses talk among themselves, followed by large gatherings in which the conversation goes on until there is agreement among all (established through hand-raising or some other technique. Basically a vote that requires 100% yes).
2. Autonomy: decisions that mainly impact you and your affinity group can be made without consulting anyone. Decisions that only impact your neighborhood require a consensus within the neighborhood, etc. Basically no one not impacted by your decisions can get in your way, unless you start harming and oppression others.
3. Emergency agreements: most anarchist communities have some system in place through which some people can make fast decisions. When there’s a fire, or a flood, or an eviction, you gotta act fast. Often a what-if plan has been made in advance using consensus and that what-if plan is implemented with the use of temporary leaders or temporary voting followed by a review and re-establishment of consensus.
Consensus is the least understood of those 3 concepts because very few people can imagine acting in a community based on good faith, where no one wants their favorite option to win and everyone wants an outcome that works best for everyone. Consensus requires trust, flexible positions, really listening to minority voices and being able to settle for a less than perfect option because you recognize the needs of other people.
Electoral decision making cultivates competition, only listening to large groups who have the voting power to achieve a majority, encouraging faithfulness to a fixed position to build a majortiy and basically the opposite of all these cooperative attitudes. So if you’ve raised in majority decision making, it’s not surprising that it’s difficult to imagine people acting differently.
Seeds for Change described the consensus process as follows
The problem, or decision needing to be made, is defined and named. It helps to do this in a way that separates the problems/questions from personalities.
Brainstorm possible solutions. Write them all down, even the crazy ones. Keep the energy up for quick, top-of-the head suggestions.
Create space for questions or clarification on the situation.
Discuss the options written down. Modify some, eliminate others, and develop a short list. Which are the favourites?
State the proposal or choice of proposals so that everybody is clear.
Discuss the pros and cons of each proposal — make sure everybody has a chance to contribute.
If there is a major objection, return to step 6 (this is the time-consuming bit). Sometimes you may need to return to step 4.
If there are no major objections, state the decisions and test for agreement.
Acknowledge minor objections and incorporate friendly amendments.
Discuss.
Check for consensus.
Seeds for Change mentions that when despite multiple attempts there is no consensus, the group as a whole can:
Allow the person most concerned to make the decision.
Leave the decision for later or take a break.
Ask everyone to argue convincingly the point of view they like the least.
Break down the decision into smaller areas. See which ones you can agree on and see what points of disagreement are left.
Identify the assumptions and beliefs underlying the issue. Get to the heart of the matter.
Imagine what will happen in six months, a year, five year’s time if you don’t agree. How important is the decision now?
Bring in a facilitator. If your group is unable to work through conflicts or if similar issues keep coming up, think about bringing in a professional facilitator or mediator who is trained in conflict-resolution techniques.
& when consensus can’t be found at all and a few people consistently disagree, those who disagree with the most popular option can choose:
Non-support: “I don’t see the need for this, but I’ll go along with it.”
Standing aside: “I personally can’t do this, but I won’t stop others from doing it.”
Veto/major objection: A single veto/major objection blocks the proposal from passing. If you have a major objection it means that you cannot live with the proposal if it passes. It is so objectionable to you/those you are representing that you will stop the proposal. A major objection isn’t an “I don’t really like it “ or “I liked the other idea better.” It is an “I cannot live with this proposal if it passes, and here is why?.!”. The group can either accept the veto or discuss the issue further and draw up new proposals. The veto is a powerful tool and should be used with caution.
Leaving the group: If one person continually finds him/herself at odds with the rest of the group, it may be time to think about the reasons for this. Is this really the right for them to group to be in? 
Consensus decision making is tricky and can be flawed. Conversation facilitators often hold more power than they’re willing to admit, talented public speakers can have more impact than those anxious about speaking in a group, long crowded meetings are not accessible to all, dogmatic cliques can sabotage the process by misusing the veto, etc. Measures need to be in place to counteract this, or true consensus becomes impossible.
It’s also important not to let consensus eclipse ‘autonomy’ or to nitpick every minor decision. The answer ‘what are we having for lunch?’ shouldn’t be a consensus process. It should be ‘whatever people want, & those who want the same thing can make lunch together’. Similarly, if the question is ‘do we want a new water filter in the community garden?’, you might wanna avoid long conversations and rephrase that question to ‘Are there enough people here willing to help me build a water filter in the garden and no one who objects to a new water filter?’. Let enthusiasm to do new things thrive.
This is doubly true in a situation like an occupation, blockade, autonomous zone under pressure, etc. Resistance requires flexibility and surprise, which can not come from consensus. A resistance movement that doesn’t allow its affinity groups to roam free and exploit opportunities won’t live long.
Your movement will die if you try to do everything by general assembly and limit the power of autonomy. In my opinion, one of the most common failures that I’ve seen in anarchist organizing in Europe has been to try to limit the autonomy of its affinity groups, try to do everything by large scale consensus meeting, and when that got too time-consuming and had authority issues, switch to more voting instead of more autonomy and better consensus processes.
Some reading:
Peter Gelderloos - Consensus:  A New Handbook for Grassroots Social, Political, and Environmental Groups. (print)
Seeds for change - Consensus Decision Making https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/seeds-for-change-consensus-decision-making
C.T. Butler and Amy Rothstein - On Conflict and Consensus: a handbook on Formal Consensus decisionmaking https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/c-t-butler-and-amy-rothstein-on-conflict-and-consensus-a-handbook-on-formal-consensus-decisionm#toc8
The Inefficient Utopia or How Consensus Will Change the World        https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/curious-george-brigade-the-inefficient-utopia-or-how-consensus-will-change-the-world        
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uiruu · 3 years
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Probably my favorite metal album is Sunbather by Deafheaven, which you've probably heard of. It's not really metal, but it is abrasive, but I also REALLY like the album Circle Thinking by I hate sex
oh yeah i like Sunbather lol, i like New Bermuda too but Sunbather’s definitely more classic
and oh huh ive never even heard of “i hate sex” haha thats a good band name/artist name/whatever it is lol. i’ll look into that
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hustlerose · 4 years
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I'm sorry if you've already answered this, but what DAW do you use?
fl studiooooooooo
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tomb-mold · 5 years
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What did you think of Lingua Ignota's Caligula, if you've heard it yet
ive not listened to it all the way through yet, but what ive heard i did like!
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moonyeca · 6 years
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angel @conocida tagged me to post only images saved on my phone that describe me
@encar-murogue @orchidluv @omarbanos @shibuyamarbles @rosewaterdessert do this if u want
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uiruu · 4 years
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Hi! I dont wanna bother you, but I saw you thinking of listening to lingua ignota and she's absolutely amazing. Her album "Caligula" is one of my all time favorites. I do recommend it if you decide to listen to her!
its never bothering me!! yeah tho i’ve heard that album is good and like really intense too, and i like stuff like that
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uiruu · 4 years
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Hey, so I saw your reblog of that person talking about how men being exposed to porn led to misogyny where you called them a terf, and I agreed with OP's point, so I'm kinda wondering what terfy red flags they set off? I'm not arguing, just wondering
they’re highlighted red by shinigamieyes, and the way that post is written just screams of someone who is anti-porn because they hate sex work and not actually because the industry is misogynist and racist etc. when i see posts about that topic, i check the op’s blog. but... you can tell when a critique is coming from a place of pro-sexworker anti-misogyny versus a place of anti-sexworker pro-misogyny. the words you use are different because the way you conceive of the problem is different, even if you’re trying to hide it. that person considers the problem to be the existence of porn in and of itself, and it shows. and sure enough, checking their blog... it’s a little hard to find posts that they DIDNT reblog from terfs lol. 
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uiruu · 4 years
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The British lady you're reblogging from sure is a...goofball
the monarchy lover? apparently she’s a 19 year old from california iorjopwergjwepogkwpeogk
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2hella2personal · 5 years
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You're so fucking cool
thank u but i just collapsed after like 10 push ups so please praise me again in like.... 3 months when im back to highschool me level fit
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moonyeca · 6 years
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i was tagged by @ninokazu
rules: tag 9 people with excellent taste (no pressure to do this if you don’t want to!!)
colour(s) I’m currently wearing: orange, blue, green
last band t-shirt I bought: I don’t own any!
last band I saw live: guns n’ roses was the last band I saw but the last live performance I saw was king cobb and theomatic
last song I listened to: caramelo duro by miguel ft. kali uchis
lipstick or chapstick? lip gloss 🍯💕
last movie I watched: the new jumanji movie with the rock lol
last three tv shows I watched: wild wild country (HIGHLY recommend), michiko to hatchin, house hunters
last three characters I identified with: lance and only lance I may have only seen one season of vld but that will not stop my endless Love for my fellow boisterous dumbass latinx with the same birthday as me
book I’m currently reading: I was rereading enders game by orson scott card but like I stopped because it made me uncomfortable and also I don’t like books that glorify warfare and the military. I have other criticisms too but I’ll keep it to myself lol
im not tagging nine people lol but tagging @pisxies @encar-murogue @g0thsgf @103221 @ahappytrashbin @hixtapegfs @tojunhui but no pressure if u don’t wanna do this!
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